Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

2008-04-23 Thread Keith Addison
Thankyou! That fills in a lot of the gaps. There is no food shortage either.

Good on Ed Wallace and Business Week.

Best

Keith


http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564_page_3.htm

Bush is an oilman. What do you expect?
   Kirk

sail4free [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

==
It's rare that I would post a complete article -- especially one 
that is arguably OT -- but this one strikes to the heart of what is 
going on with our rapidly escalating fuel prices (with no end in 
sight). FWIW, we here in Idaho (on average) have reduced our demand 
nearly 10% from one year ago -- no doubt as a direct result of high 
prices. If you read only one article about the WHY of gas prices 
this year, this needs to be that article:
==
Viewpoint April 1, 2008
==

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[Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

2008-04-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
Bush is an oilman. What do you expect?
  Kirk

sail4free [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: sail4free [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

==
It's rare that I would post a complete article -- especially one that is 
arguably OT -- but this one strikes to the heart of what is going on with our 
rapidly escalating fuel prices (with no end in sight). FWIW, we here in Idaho 
(on average) have reduced our demand nearly 10% from one year ago -- no doubt 
as a direct result of high prices. If you read only one article about the WHY 
of gas prices this year, this needs to be that article:
==
Viewpoint April 1, 2008
==
There is No Gas Shortage, but Washington, Wall Street, and ethanol and oil and 
gas companies want you to think there is, says automotive expert Ed Wallace:
==
They see speculation in the market, I see decline in global inventories. I 
don't think this is a big surprise, that we've had a jump in price when there 
has been a decrease in crude inventories.— Energy Secretary Sam Bodman, 
Bloomberg News, Mar. 5, 2008 
==
It should be obvious to you all that the [gasoline] demand is outstripping 
supply, which causes prices to go up. — President George W. Bush, Associated 
Press, Mar. 5, 2008 
==
One wonders if verifiable facts ever get in the way of this administration's 
statements on issues that are critical to the average American's wellbeing. 
After all, last time I checked, when politicians are elected to public office, 
or appointed, as is Energy Secretary Samuel W. Bodman, they must take an oath 
to the American people before assuming their new positions. How can they forget 
a sacred oath so quickly? Were they daydreaming when they took it, so it never 
meant anything to begin with? Maybe it's just another promise you have to make 
to get into office: When you're securely incumbent you can ignore even solemn 
oaths you took. 
==
Obviously, the two quotes that led this article came from discussions 
concerning the current high price for oil on the futures market. Bodman appears 
to be protecting the speculators in oil, as opposed to looking after the 
interests of all Americans. President Bush, apparently, has never talked to the 
Energy Dept.'s Energy Information Agency to see whether gasoline demand is 
actually up. More troubling, the writer of that particular Associated Press 
article obviously didn't look up the EIA's numbers to verify the President's 
assertions. They weren't accurate. 
==
1. There Is No Shortage 
==
Gasoline reserves on hand are at the highest levels since the early 1990s, 
which is remarkable considering the nation's refineries have been cutting back 
on the production of gasoline because their margins have declined. In fact, 
average gasoline reserves on hand have risen since this past October, while oil 
reserves in this country have gone up virtually every week this year—and only 
fog in the Houston Ship Channel that kept oil tankers from unloading their 
crude one week kept it from being every week. 
==
In the same Bloomberg article that quotes from Bodman's CNBC appearance on Mar. 
4, he also said that it was thanks to ethanol that the gasoline problem isn't 
even worse. He then added that the fact that making ethanol is forcing up 
prices of other farm commodities, including hog and chicken feed, is nowhere 
near as important as trying to relieve pressure on [gasoline] supplies. 
==
Of course, there is no pressure on gasoline supplies in this country as of 
today, but Bodman's statement must have made eyes roll among the executives at 
Pilgrim's Pride PPC; the Pittsburg, (Tex.) poultry producer announced 1,100 
layoffs on Mar. 13, closing one processing plant and 6 of their 13 distribution 
centers because their company's outlay for chicken feed went up $600 million 
last fiscal year and was on track to increase by another $700 million this 
year. 
==
Here's the scorecard, in case you missed it. There's no shortage of gasoline or 
oil in the U.S. today, and we have near-record reserves on hand. Meanwhile the 
Congressional mandate for ethanol has jacked up the price of chicken feed for 
Pilgrim's Pride, which is the U.S.'s largest processor of chickens and 
turkeys—by $1.3 billion. And that's for just one company processing chicken. 
This is what passes for acceptable to our Energy Secretary? 
==
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP 
==
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on oil 
supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
==
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

2008-04-22 Thread Jason Mier

the market free-for-all wouldnt be such a big problem if it werent for the 
federal reserve and overpowered banks. nothing has really been right in the 
economy since 1913. the creature from jekyll's island has turned into a real 
hyde monster.


 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:19:13 -0700
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 Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

 Bush is an oilman. What do you expect?
 Kirk

 sail4free  wrote:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: sail4free 
 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage

 ==
 It's rare that I would post a complete article -- especially one that is 
 arguably OT -- but this one strikes to the heart of what is going on with our 
 rapidly escalating fuel prices (with no end in sight). FWIW, we here in Idaho 
 (on average) have reduced our demand nearly 10% from one year ago -- no doubt 
 as a direct result of high prices. If you read only one article about the WHY 
 of gas prices this year, this needs to be that article:
 ==
 Viewpoint April 1, 2008
 ==
 There is No Gas Shortage, but Washington, Wall Street, and ethanol and oil 
 and gas companies want you to think there is, says automotive expert Ed 
 Wallace:
 ==
 They see speculation in the market, I see decline in global inventories. I 
 don't think this is a big surprise, that we've had a jump in price when there 
 has been a decrease in crude inventories.— Energy Secretary Sam Bodman, 
 Bloomberg News, Mar. 5, 2008
 ==
 It should be obvious to you all that the [gasoline] demand is outstripping 
 supply, which causes prices to go up. — President George W. Bush, Associated 
 Press, Mar. 5, 2008
 ==
 One wonders if verifiable facts ever get in the way of this administration's 
 statements on issues that are critical to the average American's wellbeing. 
 After all, last time I checked, when politicians are elected to public 
 office, or appointed, as is Energy Secretary Samuel W. Bodman, they must take 
 an oath to the American people before assuming their new positions. How can 
 they forget a sacred oath so quickly? Were they daydreaming when they took 
 it, so it never meant anything to begin with? Maybe it's just another promise 
 you have to make to get into office: When you're securely incumbent you can 
 ignore even solemn oaths you took.
 ==
 Obviously, the two quotes that led this article came from discussions 
 concerning the current high price for oil on the futures market. Bodman 
 appears to be protecting the speculators in oil, as opposed to looking after 
 the interests of all Americans. President Bush, apparently, has never talked 
 to the Energy Dept.'s Energy Information Agency to see whether gasoline 
 demand is actually up. More troubling, the writer of that particular 
 Associated Press article obviously didn't look up the EIA's numbers to verify 
 the President's assertions. They weren't accurate.
 ==
 1. There Is No Shortage
 ==
 Gasoline reserves on hand are at the highest levels since the early 1990s, 
 which is remarkable considering the nation's refineries have been cutting 
 back on the production of gasoline because their margins have declined. In 
 fact, average gasoline reserves on hand have risen since this past October, 
 while oil reserves in this country have gone up virtually every week this 
 year—and only fog in the Houston Ship Channel that kept oil tankers from 
 unloading their crude one week kept it from being every week.
 ==
 In the same Bloomberg article that quotes from Bodman's CNBC appearance on 
 Mar. 4, he also said that it was thanks to ethanol that the gasoline problem 
 isn't even worse. He then added that the fact that making ethanol is forcing 
 up prices of other farm commodities, including hog and chicken feed, is 
 nowhere near as important as trying to relieve pressure on [gasoline] 
 supplies.
 ==
 Of course, there is no pressure on gasoline supplies in this country as of 
 today, but Bodman's statement must have made eyes roll among the executives 
 at Pilgrim's Pride PPC; the Pittsburg, (Tex.) poultry producer announced 
 1,100 layoffs on Mar. 13, closing one processing plant and 6 of their 13 
 distribution centers because their company's outlay for chicken feed went up 
 $600 million last fiscal year and was on track to increase by another $700 
 million this year.
 ==
 Here's the scorecard, in case you missed it. There's no shortage of gasoline 
 or oil in the U.S. today, and we have near-record reserves on hand. Meanwhile 
 the Congressional mandate for ethanol has jacked up the price of chicken feed 
 for Pilgrim's Pride, which is the U.S.'s largest processor of chickens and 
 turkeys—by $1.3 billion. And that's for just one company processing chicken. 
 This is what passes for acceptable to our Energy Secretary?
 ==
 2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices