Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
Whoa...fun with Latin. Mike Jason Katie wrote: yes, to put it fairly bluntly, hes got the gourd in the gutter. - Original Message - From: Johnathan Corgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Mike Redler wrote: This person clearly has a case of Encephalomalacia with extreme back strain and trauma to the lower GI tract (further explanation upon request). This must be closely related to recto-cranial inversion syndrome. -Johnathan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
Keith Addison wrote: snip Do you mean this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62541.html Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nuk Why some Americans want to join the Biofuel list and how it's changed. snip I don't think that's one. There is a lot of wisdom that gets bantered back and forth in this group, and sometimes I lose track of who said what. I think you were writing to Todd about the subliminal nature of media control. I've been listening more for underlying assumptions in the press coverage, and I'm hearing it all the time now. (Blame is better to give than receive . . .) Most recent desafinado reason for wanting to join the list, or for doing biofuels generally, is what Bush said about America's oil addiction and freeing the US from its dependence on foreign oil. It seems to encapsulate all the previous disconnects about terrorists and Arabs and so on. Quite often when they write to us they tell us things like this: "Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country..." That tickles me, though I suppose I am dedicated to that, along with the other 191 countries, or at least the people who live in them, and the rest of the planet too. This is where the insulation of living in a very large and heavily populated nation serves as a disadvantage. Many Americans have never traveled extensively or lived outside of the United States, and the further inland I go, the more prevalent this "sheltering from the rest of the world" becomes. In addition, as we've discussed before, the myths of US benevolence and goodness are quite pervasive among my fellow citizens. The degree to which this is true becomes evident when discussing "why THEY hate us". I've often encountered a zeal that far surpasses religious fervor when talking about the problems with US foreign policy. Yours is a far more international and inclusive perspective. As an American, I like to think people can solve their own problems within their own communities and outsiders should stay OUT, unless these outsiders have been specifically asked for help, as in the case with a natural disaster. When this idea gets extended to the national borders the natural tendency to distinguish between US and THEM leads to this very strange, childlike polarization we see among some of the people who've posted here in the past. They're not too good at getting things right. Look at this one, just received: Hello Kieth and Midori, I am contacting you to ask you to help us spread the word about alternative fuels. My name is David Bernstein and I am the technical advisor for http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/. We have just launched our new site and are looking for some industry leading sites to help announce its launch. Beyond Fossil Fuel is a site dedicated to spreading the word about alternative fuels/energy such as ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen and more. We will be following all changes in the landscape of fuel and energy and try to provide the best resources for those looking to learn more. Is there anyway you could link to our site or help announce beyondfossilfuel.com's launch? Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country and spreading the word is a great place to start. Thank you, David Bernstein Technical Advisor http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/ It's sad, isn't it? I mean, the guy can't even spell your name correctly, yet he thinks he's got the "solution" to "turning away from the dependence on foreign fossil fuel by developing our own energy sources". I read through the site and found NOTHING about conservation and lifestyle adjustments, nothing about addressing food miles, sustainable agriculture, gardening and other activities that would REALLY make a difference. It seems geared toward elementary students who view the world as if one energy resource can be directly substituted for another. This kind of simplistic thinking solves NOTHING. I recall a conversation with a certain family member who wanted to buy a gasoline generator during the California electricity crunch, believing this would "solve" the problem. No amount of rational arguing could persuade this person to understand that mere substitution doesn't address the underlying issue that we use WAY more energy than is necessary. We're waiting for Toyota to deliver our new hybrid-electric Camry. Our family members aren't saying a whole lot about this, but I can tell by tone of voice and facial _expression_ that they think I'm crazy to buy an "expensive, untested technology". (It's no more expensive than the V6 model, and for the "around town" driving that now characterizes our driving--since I gave up my "career" position and now work out of my home--the hybrid electric seems most suitable.) The reason nobody says anything to me about this centers on the fact that there isn't a single,
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
Mike Redler wrote: This person clearly has a case of Encephalomalacia with extreme back strain and trauma to the lower GI tract (further explanation upon request). This must be closely related to recto-cranial inversion syndrome. -Johnathan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
yes, to put it fairly bluntly, hes got the gourd in the gutter. - Original Message - From: Johnathan Corgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Mike Redler wrote: This person clearly has a case of Encephalomalacia with extreme back strain and trauma to the lower GI tract (further explanation upon request). This must be closely related to recto-cranial inversion syndrome. -Johnathan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 5/24/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
robert and benita rabello wrote: Marylynn Schmidt wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? I think most of them are members of my family . . . Same here. Amongst my friends, not so much support, amongst my family however, it's all pretty solid. Of the folks I know, MOST of them are pro Bush, and refuse to take any sort of critical look at all. It's rather sad. Me, I haven't supported a president since Carter. and he gave me the hives from time to time. So, to all of them, the fact that I'm not crazy about him, is no big deal. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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If you put a magnet around your fuel line you don't have to do the two fuel tanks thing with B100. I read it on the Internet. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert snip Keith pointed this out in another thread. Do you mean this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62541.html Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nuk Why some Americans want to join the Biofuel list and how it's changed. snip People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. I'd be surprised if you weren't right. With a big overlap with the religious far-right. Most recent desafinado reason for wanting to join the list, or for doing biofuels generally, is what Bush said about America's oil addiction and freeing the US from its dependence on foreign oil. It seems to encapsulate all the previous disconnects about terrorists and Arabs and so on. Quite often when they write to us they tell us things like this: Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country... That tickles me, though I suppose I am dedicated to that, along with the other 191 countries, or at least the people who live in them, and the rest of the planet too. They're not too good at getting things right. Look at this one, just received: Hello Kieth and Midori, I am contacting you to ask you to help us spread the word about alternative fuels. My name is David Bernstein and I am the technical advisor for http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/. We have just launched our new site and are looking for some industry leading sites to help announce its launch. Beyond Fossil Fuel is a site dedicated to spreading the word about alternative fuels/energy such as ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen and more. We will be following all changes in the landscape of fuel and energy and try to provide the best resources for those looking to learn more. Is there anyway you could link to our site or help announce beyondfossilfuel.com's launch? Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country and spreading the word is a great place to start. Thank you, David Bernstein Technical Advisor http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/ You know what you'll find - independence from foreign oil. It says: We must start turning away from the dependence on foreign fossil fuel by developing our own energy sources. This is a critical time to start moving away from our addiction to foreign fossil fuel and face up to possible change in our life style if needed. And so on, yawn. They just want to replace the imported heroin with homegrown so they can go on guzzling forever, change in our life style my elbow. Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? Not very unusual. I suppose that's how they go about doing Bush and God and Arabs and so on too, it's the missing 29%, they're still missing even when you find them. They probably even believe Bush has some intention of wheening the US off foreign oil. They're not part of the answer, they're part of the problem. What do you think I should tell the Technical Advisor? Shut up? :-) Probably I shouldn't tell him anything, the usual experience is that there's no reply that won't make him angry. If I don't reply he'll probably just conclude we're obviously not patriots and we haven't got any manners either so we're no loss. I could just send him that crazed B100 paragraph and tell him he's confusing two different fuels and then point him at JtF where it explains the difference, but that doesn't work either, as we saw last week. Some people just don't get
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
She thought it was pretty funny, but then she has a good sense of humor - I met her while trying to dig my friend's 4X4 out of 3 foot deep snow waaay up in the Sangre de Christo mountains with an icescraper. She loaned us a shovel after watching for a while, then she finally decided anyone so stupid coulnd't be too dangerous! Darryl McMahon wrote: As a Québecois, albeit un des maudits anglais (currently residing in Ontario but retaining property in la belle province), I resemble that remark. Mike Weaver wrote: snip As friend of mine, who is Quebecois said, if we ever do manage to secede from Canada we would immediately start screaming and carrying on about how we unceremoniously kicked out and demand to be let back in snip Now to start digging into the Canadian Kyoto debacle of last week and see where our Made in U.S.A. climate change policy is headed. Nuts! And Harper's probably still better for Canada than the previous Liberal administrations. Talk about setting the bar low. Double nuts! One of the problems with transparency in government is what you get to see. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Darryl for shame! you forgot to say ST J;^ Darryl McMahon wrote: As a Québecois, albeit un des maudits anglais (currently residing in Ontario but retaining property in la belle province), I resemble that remark. Mike Weaver wrote: snip As friend of mine, who is Quebecois said, if we ever do manage to secede from Canada we would immediately start screaming and carrying on about how we unceremoniously kicked out and demand to be let back in snip Now to start digging into the Canadian Kyoto debacle of last week and see where our Made in U.S.A. climate change policy is headed. Nuts! And Harper's probably still better for Canada than the previous Liberal administrations. Talk about setting the bar low. Double nuts! One of the problems with transparency in government is what you get to see. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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I heard that you could fill your tank with ditch water actually and the magnet would convert it to fuel on the way to the engine. I know a guy who has been working on this for 40 years but the government keeps destroying his lab and jacking his cars. J Mike Weaver wrote: If you put a magnet around your fuel line you don't have to do the two fuel tanks thing with B100. I read it on the Internet. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert snip Keith pointed this out in another thread. Do you mean this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62541.html Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nuk Why some Americans want to join the Biofuel list and how it's changed. snip People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. I'd be surprised if you weren't right. With a big overlap with the religious far-right. Most recent desafinado reason for wanting to join the list, or for doing biofuels generally, is what Bush said about America's oil addiction and freeing the US from its dependence on foreign oil. It seems to encapsulate all the previous disconnects about terrorists and Arabs and so on. Quite often when they write to us they tell us things like this: Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country... That tickles me, though I suppose I am dedicated to that, along with the other 191 countries, or at least the people who live in them, and the rest of the planet too. They're not too good at getting things right. Look at this one, just received: Hello Kieth and Midori, I am contacting you to ask you to help us spread the word about alternative fuels. My name is David Bernstein and I am the technical advisor for http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/. We have just launched our new site and are looking for some industry leading sites to help announce its launch. Beyond Fossil Fuel is a site dedicated to spreading the word about alternative fuels/energy such as ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen and more. We will be following all changes in the landscape of fuel and energy and try to provide the best resources for those looking to learn more. Is there anyway you could link to our site or help announce beyondfossilfuel.com's launch? Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country and spreading the word is a great place to start. Thank you, David Bernstein Technical Advisor http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/ You know what you'll find - independence from foreign oil. It says: We must start turning away from the dependence on foreign fossil fuel by developing our own energy sources. This is a critical time to start moving away from our addiction to foreign fossil fuel and face up to possible change in our life style if needed. And so on, yawn. They just want to replace the imported heroin with homegrown so they can go on guzzling forever, change in our life style my elbow. Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? Not very unusual. I suppose that's how they go about doing Bush and God and Arabs and so on too, it's the missing 29%, they're still missing even when you find them. They probably even believe Bush has some intention of wheening the US off foreign oil. They're not part of the answer, they're part of the problem. What do you think I should tell the Technical Advisor? Shut up? :-) Probably I shouldn't tell him anything, the usual experience is that there's no reply that won't make him angry. If I don't reply he'll probably just conclude we're obviously not patriots and we haven't
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
Why don't you send him in search of Hydrogen the most wonderful fuel of all? J Sorry I guess I'm in a rude mood this morning. Keith Addison wrote: SNIP Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Here's an important tip, I have to share this with you, I got this the other day: If somebody comes to your door and says they're doing a survey and they want to see your bum, don't go for it! Do not show them your bum! It's a scam! I wish I'd known this, I feel like such a fool! Dianne Okay? Be warned! Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:34:34 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Are you telling me that if I bought my new Escalade SUV in Canada I would get 20% off per litre of petrol? Nuts. I feel like such a fool. robert and benita rabello wrote: Marylynn Schmidt wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? I think most of them are members of my family . . . You are right about no one admitting to voting for him in the last election and no one I've ever come across thinks he's anything but some bum. There's an awful lot of support for him among people I know. They think he's a good man. While the rest of us scratch our heads and wonder how REAL conservatives can hold his policies in anything other than contempt, the propaganda machine grinds on and the legacy of Josef Goebbels manufactures artificial consensus through flag waving and subliminal messages that pervade our media. Keith pointed this out in another thread. As an example, I was listening to NPR this morning and heard a feature involving an evangelical minister who has been caught up in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Chris Geeslin, the minister in question, believed one of his parishoners was a godly man because he was in the Bible and prayed every day. This associate of Jack Abramoff set up a foundation that was intended to promote family values and return America to God as the Founders intended, but instead, funneled foreign money to Tom Delay. (Big surprise!) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5424662 Return America to God as the Founders intended? What??? I've a personal copy of the Constitution and NOWHERE in that document does it say anything about America being aligned with God. But if we hear that lie enough, we begin to believe it. The deception is subtle and subliminal, but pervasive. I've read somewhere else that a man cannot serve two masters. People like Chris Geeslin are profoundly mislead when they begin believing that the US can function as an agent of God, but it's among people like him that the support for Mr. Bush persists. (I attend church with a LOT of people whose attitudes are remarkably similar.) Meanwhile, GM is offering a program for a 20 cent per liter discount on gasoline for all Canadian customers who buy a new GM truck or car. (The truck is prominently featured in the ad.) We're buying a hybrid electric Camry to replace the thrice-damned GM product that dishonors our driveway. The spin, counterspin and programming that goes on in our media really sets us up for corporate control. We get into debt through manufactured dissatisfaction and live a lifestyle determined by utter dependency on automobiles, and all the while, our president's corporate friends are heaping on the profits. People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel
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If there were an innocent (albeit ignorant) question in there, I would be a lot more forgiving. ...but there isn't. This person clearly has a case of Encephalomalacia with extreme back strain and trauma to the lower GI tract (further explanation upon request). There is a difference between someone quietly asking if there is a fire in a movie theater and standing up and declaring it. I would treat this the same way and collectively offer him/her a heaping bowl of verbal whoop-ass the next time he/she pipes up. (IMO) Anyone starting out may absorb information from this individual as readily as from a legitimate source and cause confusion. If it is done in the this forum, it could effect hundreds of newer members. Mike Joe Street wrote: Why don't you send him in search of Hydrogen the most wonderful fuel of all? J Sorry I guess I'm in a rude mood this morning. Keith Addison wrote: SNIP Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Hi John; He didn't -- just like he didn't get elected the 1st time -- used Diebold other chicanery in Ohio the 2nd time (even Karl was smart enuf not to do the deed in his brother's state again). That poll standing is about where Nixon's was the night before he resigned, facing certain impeachment, isn't it? Regards E. Allen C. --- John Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraqs border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations. Amy Poehler A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage --Amy Poehler President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction. --David Letterman The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball. --David Letterman The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they took some time out to work on that. --Jimmy Kimmel It's all part of this immigration
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Hey Mark; BushCo is low as a snake's belly (very apt) in the minds of most (70%+ rising) Americans -- would be worse if about 10% didn't get their news only from FauxNews (Fox), which is totally in BushCo's pocket. the shrub his cabal are corporatocrats, primarily oilmen -- their disastrous policies reflect that -- we can only hope work to turn them out of Congress this year then hire a real President etc. in 2008. Get real news from the AM (alternative media), 'cause the MM (mainstream media) are ALL mostly part of the cabal. Fortunately, the 2nd superpower is alive, well, growing by leaps bounds (in spite of all BushCo's weasely spin machinery. Best for a better future E. Allen C. --- Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The images that the UK media give out is that Mr Bush is popular with the US people. The biggest thing is that the US government deny SO WE ARE TOLD through are media is that global warming due to mans pollution does not exist in there minds ? Whats all that about? We are trying to cut back and the US gov are pushing forward with there pollution. Have i got this all wrong? Mark [living in a mad world!] From: John Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:12:11 -0400 Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraqs border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want
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Why don't you send him in search of Hydrogen the most wonderful fuel of all? We have no memory for yesterday's lies. (We don't remember PNGV either, nor any other missing weapons of mass reduction.) J Sorry I guess I'm in a rude mood this morning. It's not against the rules. :-) Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: SNIP Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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BURN!! oh man thats a good one. im still crying from my laugh. This person clearly has a case of Encephalomalacia with extreme back strain and trauma to the lower GI tract (further explanation upon request). ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Oh, yeah I heard that ditch water thing the other day from a friend of mine! It looks really promising! I'm going gather my life savings, sell my mutual funds, and get a tuition refund and invest everything in ditch water and magnets! After years of disappointment with get rich quick schemes, I KNOW I'm gonna get rich with this scheme -- and quick! -- Homer Simpson, Episode 2F07: Grampa vs. Sexual Inadequacy I can't lose! -John On May 24, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Joe Street wrote: I heard that you could fill your tank with ditch water actually and the magnet would convert it to fuel on the way to the engine. I know a guy who has been working on this for 40 years but the government keeps destroying his lab and jacking his cars. J Mike Weaver wrote: If you put a magnet around your fuel line you don't have to do the two fuel tanks thing with B100. I read it on the Internet. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert snip> Keith pointed this out in another thread. Do you mean this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62541.html Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nuk Why some Americans want to join the Biofuel list and how it's changed. snip> People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. I'd be surprised if you weren't right. With a big overlap with the religious far-right. Most recent desafinado reason for wanting to join the list, or for doing biofuels generally, is what Bush said about America's oil addiction and freeing the US from its dependence on foreign oil. It seems to encapsulate all the previous disconnects about terrorists and Arabs and so on. Quite often when they write to us they tell us things like this: Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country... That tickles me, though I suppose I am dedicated to that, along with the other 191 countries, or at least the people who live in them, and the rest of the planet too. They're not too good at getting things right. Look at this one, just received: Hello Kieth and Midori, I am contacting you to ask you to help us spread the word about alternative fuels. My name is David Bernstein and I am the technical advisor for >http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/. We have just launched our new site and are looking for some industry leading sites to help announce its launch. Beyond Fossil Fuel is a site dedicated to spreading the word about alternative fuels/energy such as ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen and more. We will be following all changes in the landscape of fuel and energy and try to provide the best resources for those looking to learn more. Is there anyway you could link to our site or help announce beyondfossilfuel.com's launch? Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country and spreading the word is a great place to start. Thank you, David Bernstein Technical Advisor http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/ You know what you'll find - independence from foreign oil. It says: We must start turning away from the dependence on foreign fossil fuel by developing our own energy sources. This is a critical time to start moving away from our addiction to foreign fossil fuel and face up to possible change in our life style if needed. And so on, yawn. They just want to replace the imported heroin with homegrown so they can go on guzzling forever, change in our life style my elbow. Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? Not very unusual. I suppose that's how they go about doing Bush and God and Arabs and so on too, it's the missing 29%,
[Biofuel] Late Night in US
The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraq’s border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. –Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations. –Amy Poehler A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage --Amy Poehler President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction. --David Letterman The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball. --David Letterman The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they took some time out to work on that. --Jimmy Kimmel It's all part of this immigration reform bill that they're working on to help us forget how much we don't like them in Congress. President Bush was in Arizona checking out plans for this new fence he's building. They really should let him actually build the fence. Give him a shovel. I think he'd be good at that. ... But, he's a busy man, the president. He's juggling immigration and tax cuts. He's listening into our phone calls. He's got the war. He's got other wars he's planning. --Jimmy Kimmel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraq’s border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. –Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations. –Amy Poehler A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage --Amy Poehler President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction. --David Letterman The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball. --David Letterman The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they took some time out to work on that. --Jimmy Kimmel It's all part of this immigration reform bill that they're working on to help us forget how much we don't like them in Congress. President Bush was in Arizona checking out plans for this new fence he's building. They really should let him actually build the fence. Give him a shovel. I think he'd be good at that. ... But, he's a busy man, the president. He's juggling immigration and tax cuts. He's listening into our phone calls. He's got the war. He's got other wars he's planning. --Jimmy Kimmel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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By operators of electronic voting machines. Hakan At 15:12 23/05/2006, you wrote: Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraqs border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations. Amy Poehler A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage --Amy Poehler President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction. --David Letterman The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball. --David Letterman The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they took some time out to work on that. --Jimmy Kimmel It's all part of this immigration reform bill that they're working on to help us forget how much we don't like them in Congress. President Bush was in Arizona checking out plans for this new fence he's building. They really should let him actually build the fence. Give him a shovel. I think he'd be good at that. ... But, he's a busy man, the president. He's juggling immigration and tax cuts. He's listening into our phone calls. He's got the war. He's got other wars he's planning. --Jimmy Kimmel ___ Biofuel mailing list
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John...like this: http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htmMike DuPree - Original Message - From: John Beale To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Could someone please remind me, because I forget...How the hell did Bush get re-elected??Question for all of you who do not live in the United States:Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush?Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%?I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now.Just wondering,-JohnOn May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: "The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California." --Conan O'Brien"Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.'" --Conan O'Brien"The Pentagon announced today that Iraq’s border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control." --Jay Leno"As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement." --Jay Leno"He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House." --Jay Leno"President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun." --Jay Leno"President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal?" --Jay Leno"The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that." --Jay Leno"The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill." --Jay Leno"Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel." --Jay Leno"As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk." –Tina Fey"A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants." --Tina Fey"Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts'" --Tina Fey"Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations." –Amy Poehler"A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage" --Amy Poehler"President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction." --David Letterman"The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball." --David Letterman"The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they to
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What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? You are right about no one admitting to voting for him in the last election and no one I've ever come across thinks he's anything but some bum. I'm fairly active at a Y with a wide range of age groups and interests. This Y has a great swimming pool open from 6:45 AM until closing at 9 PM with no restricting hours .. a wonderful work out room .. free baby sitting for members .. activities for children and adults. I'm hearing comments from young college ages, young families with and children, young professionals, small business owners, retires both on restricted budgets and the fairly wealthy .. anytime Bush has a speech on TV, the exercise room almost as a single vote wants the channel changed .. He is not only not liked .. he is not respected. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: John Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:12:11 -0400 Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraqs border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking
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The images that the UK media give out is that Mr Bush is popular with the US people. The biggest thing is that the US government deny SO WE ARE TOLD through are media is that global warming due to mans pollution does not exist in there minds ? Whats all that about? We are trying to cut back and the US gov are pushing forward with there pollution. Have i got this all wrong? Mark [living in a mad world!] From: John Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:12:11 -0400 Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John On May 23, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: The Senate voted to make English the national language of the United States. The vote drew protests from several immigrant groups and one governor of California. --Conan O'Brien Even though it's a little bit controversial, President Bush supports the effort to make English our national language. The president says making English our national language is not 'discriminatious.' --Conan O'Brien The Pentagon announced today that Iraqs border is now 90% under control, which is pretty impressive when you realize San Diego's border is only 20% under control. --Jay Leno As you know, the National Guard stands by, ready to go into action any time the president of the United States feels there's a big enough of a disaster, like a major earthquake, a huge flood, a 29% approval rating. Any one of those things could trigger movement. --Jay Leno He went to a border town in Arizona yesterday. ... But, White House spokesman Tony Snow said it was not just a photo opportunity. No sirry Bob. Apparently, President Bush went down there looking for some guys about landscaping at the White House. --Jay Leno President Bush is pretty serious about this enforcement thing. In fact, before he left the border, he put up a scarecrow of Dick Cheney with a shotgun. --Jay Leno President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal? --Jay Leno The Senate voted to make English the national language. More bad news for President Bush. Now he's got to learn that. --Jay Leno The Senate voted 63 to 34 to make English the official language of the United States, but they say as a largely symbolic amendment with no real effect. You know, kind of like that ethics bill. --Jay Leno Pat Robertson said this week that God told him that possibly a tsunami could hit the Pacific northwest this year. I don't want to be disrespectful, but possibly? ... Like God's thinking 60/40. ... Pat, that wasn't God. You fell asleep in front of the weather channel. --Jay Leno As part of the ongoing immigration debate, the Senate on Thursday voted 64 to 34 to make English America's national language. Coming in second: '70s jive talk. Tina Fey A Senate committee on Thursday approved a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, apparently forgetting that our forefathers wore wigs and satin Capri pants. --Tina Fey Kenyan Muslims believe that a five-and-a-half pound tuna caught in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Mombasa, carries a message from Allah written among its scales. In a related story, this doctor [shows a picture of Bill Frist] doesn't think doesn't think condoms stop AIDS. And that's this week's edition of 'Religion Gone Nuts' --Tina Fey Many governors of northeastern states are unwilling to volunteer their National Guard troops to assist with President Bush's border plan. They want the Guard troops doing what they do best: freaking people out at Amtrak stations. Amy Poehler A Louisiana state Senate committee unanimously approved a ban on cock fighting, in what appears to be a first step in outlawing gay marriage --Amy Poehler President Bush is sending troops to the Mexican border. He's going to have them look for tequila of mass destruction. --David Letterman The Bush administration is tightening immigration now. In order to cross the United States, you have to have legal documentation. If you want to get into the United States you have to have legal documentation or a 95 mile an hour fast ball. --David Letterman The Senate yesterday voted to make English the national language of the United States and also our national muffin. The English muffin. I'm glad they took some time out to work on that. --Jimmy Kimmel It's all part of this immigration reform bill
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On 5/23/06, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? The South! Though here in South Carolina, I see less and less W stickers by the week. -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything. - Thomas A Edison ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Oh, I know lots of them. My relatives in Utah seem to love him. I think they're cooling on him somewhat, but they still think he's an improvement over Clinton. They also think that believing in global warming is unpatriotic Ga!! On 5/23/06, Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/23/06, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? The South! Though here in South Carolina, I see less and less W stickers by the week. -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything. - Thomas A Edison ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Marylynn Schmidt wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? I think most of them are members of my family . . . You are right about no one admitting to voting for him in the last election and no one I've ever come across thinks he's anything but some bum. There's an awful lot of support for him among people I know. They think he's a good man. While the rest of us scratch our heads and wonder how REAL conservatives can hold his policies in anything other than contempt, the propaganda machine grinds on and the legacy of Josef Goebbels manufactures artificial consensus through flag waving and subliminal messages that pervade our media. Keith pointed this out in another thread. As an example, I was listening to NPR this morning and heard a feature involving an evangelical minister who has been caught up in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Chris Geeslin, the minister in question, believed one of his parishoners was a godly man because he was in the Bible and prayed every day. This associate of Jack Abramoff set up a foundation that was intended to promote family values and return America to God as the Founders intended, but instead, funneled foreign money to Tom Delay. (Big surprise!) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5424662 Return America to God as the Founders intended? What??? I've a personal copy of the Constitution and NOWHERE in that document does it say anything about America being aligned with God. But if we hear that lie enough, we begin to believe it. The deception is subtle and subliminal, but pervasive. I've read somewhere else that a man cannot serve two masters. People like Chris Geeslin are profoundly mislead when they begin believing that the US can function as an agent of God, but it's among people like him that the support for Mr. Bush persists. (I attend church with a LOT of people whose attitudes are remarkably similar.) Meanwhile, GM is offering a program for a 20 cent per liter discount on gasoline for all Canadian customers who buy a new GM truck or car. (The truck is prominently featured in the ad.) We're buying a hybrid electric Camry to replace the thrice-damned GM product that dishonors our driveway. The spin, counterspin and programming that goes on in our media really sets us up for corporate control. We get into debt through manufactured dissatisfaction and live a lifestyle determined by utter dependency on automobiles, and all the while, our president's corporate friends are heaping on the profits. People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Are you telling me that if I bought my new Escalade SUV in Canada I would get 20% off per litre of petrol? Nuts. I feel like such a fool. robert and benita rabello wrote: Marylynn Schmidt wrote: What has me confused is just exactly who are these 29% and where are they hiding? I think most of them are members of my family . . . You are right about no one admitting to voting for him in the last election and no one I've ever come across thinks he's anything but some bum. There's an awful lot of support for him among people I know. They think he's a good man. While the rest of us scratch our heads and wonder how REAL conservatives can hold his policies in anything other than contempt, the propaganda machine grinds on and the legacy of Josef Goebbels manufactures artificial consensus through flag waving and subliminal messages that pervade our media. Keith pointed this out in another thread. As an example, I was listening to NPR this morning and heard a feature involving an evangelical minister who has been caught up in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Chris Geeslin, the minister in question, believed one of his parishoners was a godly man because he was in the Bible and prayed every day. This associate of Jack Abramoff set up a foundation that was intended to promote family values and return America to God as the Founders intended, but instead, funneled foreign money to Tom Delay. (Big surprise!) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5424662 Return America to God as the Founders intended? What??? I've a personal copy of the Constitution and NOWHERE in that document does it say anything about America being aligned with God. But if we hear that lie enough, we begin to believe it. The deception is subtle and subliminal, but pervasive. I've read somewhere else that a man cannot serve two masters. People like Chris Geeslin are profoundly mislead when they begin believing that the US can function as an agent of God, but it's among people like him that the support for Mr. Bush persists. (I attend church with a LOT of people whose attitudes are remarkably similar.) Meanwhile, GM is offering a program for a 20 cent per liter discount on gasoline for all Canadian customers who buy a new GM truck or car. (The truck is prominently featured in the ad.) We're buying a hybrid electric Camry to replace the thrice-damned GM product that dishonors our driveway. The spin, counterspin and programming that goes on in our media really sets us up for corporate control. We get into debt through manufactured dissatisfaction and live a lifestyle determined by utter dependency on automobiles, and all the while, our president's corporate friends are heaping on the profits. People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Mike Weaver wrote: Are you telling me that if I bought my new Escalade SUV in Canada I would get 20% off per litre of petrol? Yep. Nuts. I feel like such a fool. Sorry Mike. I guess the Canadians have a corner on intelligent marketing . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Mike Weaver wrote: Heck, until your recent election I was pretty sure you guys had it over us in intelligence, period. We don't even have decent health ins. here. I'm NOT a Canadian, Mike. As for the current government in power, I'm a guest in this country so I don't like to complain. I'm relieved, however, that the NDP didn't get in. Should the Bloq Quebecois ever successfully control the government and manage to scede that province from the rest of Canada, I expect we'll be seeing American troops up here to restore order and bring democracy to the Canadian people . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Heck, until your recent election I was pretty sure you guys had it over us in intelligence, period. We don't even have decent health ins. here. robert and benita rabello wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: Are you telling me that if I bought my new Escalade SUV in Canada I would get 20% off per litre of petrol? Yep. Nuts. I feel like such a fool. Sorry Mike. I guess the Canadians have a corner on intelligent marketing . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Ah, well, if you look back far enough *I'm* really a guest here in the US! As friend of mine, who is Quebecois said, if we ever do manage to secede from Canada we would immediately start screaming and carrying on about how we unceremoniously kicked out and demand to be let back in robert and benita rabello wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: Heck, until your recent election I was pretty sure you guys had it over us in intelligence, period. We don't even have decent health ins. here. I'm NOT a Canadian, Mike. As for the current government in power, I'm a guest in this country so I don't like to complain. I'm relieved, however, that the NDP didn't get in. Should the Bloq Quebecois ever successfully control the government and manage to scede that province from the rest of Canada, I expect we'll be seeing American troops up here to restore order and bring democracy to the Canadian people . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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As a Québecois, albeit un des maudits anglais (currently residing in Ontario but retaining property in la belle province), I resemble that remark. Mike Weaver wrote: snip As friend of mine, who is Quebecois said, if we ever do manage to secede from Canada we would immediately start screaming and carrying on about how we unceremoniously kicked out and demand to be let back in snip Now to start digging into the Canadian Kyoto debacle of last week and see where our Made in U.S.A. climate change policy is headed. Nuts! And Harper's probably still better for Canada than the previous Liberal administrations. Talk about setting the bar low. Double nuts! One of the problems with transparency in government is what you get to see. -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Remember, it's not who votes; it's who counts the votes. And the Nazzies own the voting machines.. Perry Hakan Falk wrote: By operators of electronic voting machines. Hakan At 15:12 23/05/2006, you wrote: Could someone please remind me, because I forget... How the hell did Bush get re-elected?? Question for all of you who do not live in the United States: Do people in your area think that the US people support President Bush? Do those people realize that President Bush has an approval rating of 29%? I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, and darn it, I don't think I know anyone who would admit to voting for Bush in 2004 or who, when asked, would say that they would vote for Bush right now. Just wondering, -John ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Late Night in US
Hi Robert snip Keith pointed this out in another thread. Do you mean this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62541.html Re: [Biofuel] Torture and/or Nuking Iran -- was Re: Poll in favor of Nuk Why some Americans want to join the Biofuel list and how it's changed. snip People complain to me, but lately I've been telling them to shut up. I've been warning everyone around me for YEARS that we were heading down the path toward BIG trouble. Now it's here and I'm in no mood to listen to their bickering. What REALLY irritates me right now, is that many of those who are lamenting the loudest are the same group that put Mr. Bush and his cabal in power. If you really want to know who those 29% are, listen to the ones complaining about high gas prices and blaming their problems on the Arabs. I'd lay odds that among that group you will find the president's most ardent supporters. I'd be surprised if you weren't right. With a big overlap with the religious far-right. Most recent desafinado reason for wanting to join the list, or for doing biofuels generally, is what Bush said about America's oil addiction and freeing the US from its dependence on foreign oil. It seems to encapsulate all the previous disconnects about terrorists and Arabs and so on. Quite often when they write to us they tell us things like this: Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country... That tickles me, though I suppose I am dedicated to that, along with the other 191 countries, or at least the people who live in them, and the rest of the planet too. They're not too good at getting things right. Look at this one, just received: Hello Kieth and Midori, I am contacting you to ask you to help us spread the word about alternative fuels. My name is David Bernstein and I am the technical advisor for http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/. We have just launched our new site and are looking for some industry leading sites to help announce its launch. Beyond Fossil Fuel is a site dedicated to spreading the word about alternative fuels/energy such as ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen and more. We will be following all changes in the landscape of fuel and energy and try to provide the best resources for those looking to learn more. Is there anyway you could link to our site or help announce beyondfossilfuel.com's launch? Just like you, we are dedicated to building a better future for our country and spreading the word is a great place to start. Thank you, David Bernstein Technical Advisor http://www.beyondfossilfuel.com/ You know what you'll find - independence from foreign oil. It says: We must start turning away from the dependence on foreign fossil fuel by developing our own energy sources. This is a critical time to start moving away from our addiction to foreign fossil fuel and face up to possible change in our life style if needed. And so on, yawn. They just want to replace the imported heroin with homegrown so they can go on guzzling forever, change in our life style my elbow. Check the word that's being spread that I'm supposed to help with, it's stuff like this: Biodiesel used in its pure form (B100) may require certain engine modifications to prevent gelling which would cause performance problems and maintenance issues. Some conversions warm the oil preventing the oil gelling at colder temperatures. A two fuel tank system is used in many of these conversions. The smaller tank holds petroleum diesel which is used at engine start up. After the engine warms up, the (B100) fuel is then warmed. At this point the driver switches to the larger primary tank holding the (B100). Before the engine is shut down the driver switches back over to the smaller petroleum diesel tank purging the (B100) fuel that may gel in the fuel lines when the engine cools. ROFL!!! How would I go about helping him? Start here? Not very unusual. I suppose that's how they go about doing Bush and God and Arabs and so on too, it's the missing 29%, they're still missing even when you find them. They probably even believe Bush has some intention of wheening the US off foreign oil. They're not part of the answer, they're part of the problem. What do you think I should tell the Technical Advisor? Shut up? :-) Probably I shouldn't tell him anything, the usual experience is that there's no reply that won't make him angry. If I don't reply he'll probably just conclude we're obviously not patriots and we haven't got any manners either so we're no loss. I could just send him that crazed B100 paragraph and tell him he's confusing two different fuels and then point him at JtF where it explains the difference, but that doesn't work either, as we saw last week. Some people just don't get good information no matter what, and I think it applies to these folks and the missing 29%. They can't think straight. I think it's because many of them aren't getting their
