[Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say. 
It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart 
corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer, 
ADM/Cargill/Tysons et al, but about the only thing I can think of 
that could dislodge BP from its Top Mad Dog position is if someone 
presses The Button.

Pretty pictures:
http://snipurl.com/wu3vj

http://snipurl.com/wu3v2

Leave it to the experts:
http://www.CounterThink.com/BP_Visionaries.asp

How Much Oil Is Really Spilling into the Gulf of Mexico?
http://www.prwatch.org/node/9065

Is the Gulf oil spill spinning out of control?
http://www.grist.org/article/2010-05-25-is-the-gulf-oil-spill-spinning-out-of-control

What if the oil spill just can't be fixed?
... Even if the flow were stopped tomorrow, the damage to marshes, 
coral, and marine life is done. The Gulf of Mexico will become an 
ecological and economic dead zone. There's no real way to undo it, no 
matter who's in charge.
http://www.grist.org/article/2010-05-25-what-if-the-oil-spill-just-cant-be-fixed

More Than Just an Oil Spill
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/opinion/22herbert.html

Drilling Disasters Can't Happen Here
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4079

Similar Disaster Could Occur in Arctic Later This Year
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/24

BP and the 'Little Eichmanns'
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/bp_and_the_little_eichmanns_20100517/

The Corporate Stranglehold: How BP Will Make out Like Bandits from 
Its Massive, Still Gushing Oil Disaster
The existing $75 million cap on damages for offshore drilling 
companies is a bailout every bit as disgusting as those recently 
bestowed upon Wall Street.
http://www.alternet.org/story/146999/

10 Things You Need (But Don't Want) To Know About the BP Oil Spill
How the owner of the exploded oil rig has made $270 million off the 
leak, and 9 other shocking, depressing facts about the disaster.
http://www.alternet.org/story/147014/

Seize BP campaign
http://seizebp.org/

Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to 
BP. Let's get it done.

"... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead." 
(Bob Dylan)

All best

Keith

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Chris Burck]

hi, keith.  thanks for the links.  no time to check them out in depth
right now.  i heard a little a really horrifying little factoid
yesterday, which is that apparently the ocean floor in that region is.
. .highly porous, for lack for a better word.  so concievably many of
the contaminants in the oil and dispersants, even if the oil
slick/toxic subsurface cloud never reaches the shores of florida, the
everglades could still be seriously poisoned.

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[m_michele_st]

It all makes me sick at my stomach. And frankly after that leak on the North 
Slope, the refinery explosion, and now this I think DOJ should send folks to 
prison.

But what do I know I'm just a lowly voter in this republic. 



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hi, keith.  thanks for the links.  no time to check them out in depth
right now.  i heard a little a really horrifying little factoid
yesterday, which is that apparently the ocean floor in that region is.
. .highly porous, for lack for a better word.  so concievably many of
the contaminants in the oil and dispersants, even if the oil
slick/toxic subsurface cloud never reaches the shores of florida, the
everglades could still be seriously poisoned.

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Tony]

Being an observer from Afar, but still part of the Global community
( Western Australia in the bush)

Maybe out of this disaster reality might take hold Keith
and people will wake up to the damage Big Oil companies
and oil itself is doing to our world and big change will come out of it
in the form of SERIOUS alternatives to Oil based fuel energy sources.

Focus more on the environmental devastation & Degradation caused by 
huge oil spills
and damage it has done. then about the greed of corporate industry for
profits over habitat ,do a Edward De Bono and think Laterally out of 
this with proper Direction
by those that give a damn more money should go towards proper research on
the alternative energies we need rather than spending Trillions on 
new warfair that is based
over oil anyway

Tony from Toodyay West Au
AKA Moodyne Joe

*who? *
http://westaustralianvista.com/moondyne-joe.html


At 11:06 PM 27/05/2010 +0900, you wrote:
>BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say.
>It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart
>corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer,
>
>
>Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to
>BP. Let's get it done.
>
>"... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."
>(Bob Dylan)
>
>All best
>
>Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[James Machin]

Speaking of renewable alternatives, Monbiot has some interesting comments 
ref the UK...

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/05/20/out-of-sight-out-of-trouble/

Best
James
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From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:07 PM
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>
> Being an observer from Afar, but still part of the Global community
> ( Western Australia in the bush)
>
> Maybe out of this disaster reality might take hold Keith
> and people will wake up to the damage Big Oil companies
> and oil itself is doing to our world and big change will come out of it
> in the form of SERIOUS alternatives to Oil based fuel energy sources.
>
> Focus more on the environmental devastation & Degradation caused by
> huge oil spills
> and damage it has done. then about the greed of corporate industry for
> profits over habitat ,do a Edward De Bono and think Laterally out of
> this with proper Direction
> by those that give a damn more money should go towards proper research on
> the alternative energies we need rather than spending Trillions on
> new warfair that is based
> over oil anyway
>
> Tony from Toodyay West Au
> AKA Moodyne Joe
>
> *who? *
> http://westaustralianvista.com/moondyne-joe.html
>
>
> At 11:06 PM 27/05/2010 +0900, you wrote:
>>BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say.
>>It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart
>>corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer,
>>
>>
>>Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to
>>BP. Let's get it done.
>>
>>"... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."
>>(Bob Dylan)
>>
>>All best
>>
>>Keith
>
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[D.V Subramanian]

Dear Mr. Keith,
It's a long time since I participated in this knowledgeable discussion group
tho' I've been following the discussion on topics I'm interested in, namely,
renewable energy.

An article on the oil disaster in the Gulf reproduced by THE HINDU from the
GUARDIAN Newspapers might interest the community .
The Real cost of cheap oil:  by John Vidal
http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/29/stories/2010052951581300.htm

All that the affected world community can do is wring their hands in despair
and curse their fate (if they believe in fate !!!).

Best Regards,

Subramanian, D.V.
Chennai, India

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Keith Addison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say.
> It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart
> corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer,
> ADM/Cargill/Tysons et al, but about the only thing I can think of
> that could dislodge BP from its Top Mad Dog position is if someone
> presses The Button.
>
> Pretty pictures:
> http://snipurl.com/wu3vj
>
> http://snipurl.com/wu3v2
>
> Leave it to the experts:
> http://www.CounterThink.com/BP_Visionaries.asp
>
> How Much Oil Is Really Spilling into the Gulf of Mexico?
> http://www.prwatch.org/node/9065
>
> Is the Gulf oil spill spinning out of control?
>
> http://www.grist.org/article/2010-05-25-is-the-gulf-oil-spill-spinning-out-of-control
>
> What if the oil spill just can't be fixed?
> ... Even if the flow were stopped tomorrow, the damage to marshes,
> coral, and marine life is done. The Gulf of Mexico will become an
> ecological and economic dead zone. There's no real way to undo it, no
> matter who's in charge.
>
> http://www.grist.org/article/2010-05-25-what-if-the-oil-spill-just-cant-be-fixed
>
> More Than Just an Oil Spill
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/opinion/22herbert.html
>
> Drilling Disasters Can't Happen Here
> http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4079
>
> Similar Disaster Could Occur in Arctic Later This Year
> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/24
>
> BP and the 'Little Eichmanns'
> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/bp_and_the_little_eichmanns_20100517/
>
> The Corporate Stranglehold: How BP Will Make out Like Bandits from
> Its Massive, Still Gushing Oil Disaster
> The existing $75 million cap on damages for offshore drilling
> companies is a bailout every bit as disgusting as those recently
> bestowed upon Wall Street.
> http://www.alternet.org/story/146999/
>
> 10 Things You Need (But Don't Want) To Know About the BP Oil Spill
> How the owner of the exploded oil rig has made $270 million off the
> leak, and 9 other shocking, depressing facts about the disaster.
> http://www.alternet.org/story/147014/
>
> Seize BP campaign
> http://seizebp.org/
>
> Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to
> BP. Let's get it done.
>
> "... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."
> (Bob Dylan)
>
> All best
>
> Keith
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hi Chris

>hi, keith.  thanks for the links.  no time to check them out in depth
>right now.

I think the headlines tell quite a lot in themselves.

>i heard a little a really horrifying little factoid
>yesterday, which is that apparently the ocean floor in that region is.
>. .highly porous, for lack for a better word.

:-(

>so concievably many of
>the contaminants in the oil and dispersants, even if the oil
>slick/toxic subsurface cloud never reaches the shores of florida, the
>everglades could still be seriously poisoned.

Maybe it'll porous itself all way back down to where it came from in 
the first place.

Ever hopeful...

Keith

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hi James

Thanks. But there's a but...

>Speaking of renewable alternatives, Monbiot has some interesting comments
>ref the UK...
>
>http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/05/20/out-of-sight-out-of-trouble/

>... Were we to use only 29% of the total resource, the UK would 
>become a net electricity exporter. We would be generating energy 
>equivalent to 1bn barrels of oil a year, which roughly corresponds 
>to the average amount of North Sea oil and gas the UK has been 
>producing over the past four decades.

That's a bit misleading. Very little oil is used for electricity 
generation, it's nearly all coal-fired, or natural gas or nuclear. 
Most oil is used for transport and for heating, and especially as 
feedstock for chemicals manufacturing (where most of the profit comes 
from).

In any case, this is the big if:

>The construction effort would be roughly similar to building the 
>North Sea oil and gas infrastructure: eminently plausible, in other 
>words, if propelled by strong government policy.

If only.

Strong government policy on anything is only a plausible prospect if 
it suits TPTB - or if you and I and the rest of us are willing to 
hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be 
relentless about it.

All best

Keith


>Best
>James
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>
>
>>
>>  Being an observer from Afar, but still part of the Global community
>>  ( Western Australia in the bush)
>>
>>  Maybe out of this disaster reality might take hold Keith
>>  and people will wake up to the damage Big Oil companies
>>  and oil itself is doing to our world and big change will come out of it
>>  in the form of SERIOUS alternatives to Oil based fuel energy sources.
>>
>>  Focus more on the environmental devastation & Degradation caused by
>>  huge oil spills
>>  and damage it has done. then about the greed of corporate industry for
>>  profits over habitat ,do a Edward De Bono and think Laterally out of
>>  this with proper Direction
>>  by those that give a damn more money should go towards proper research on
>>  the alternative energies we need rather than spending Trillions on
>>  new warfair that is based
>>  over oil anyway
>>
>>  Tony from Toodyay West Au
>>  AKA Moodyne Joe
>>
>>  *who? *
>>  http://westaustralianvista.com/moondyne-joe.html
>>
>>
>>  At 11:06 PM 27/05/2010 +0900, you wrote:
>>>BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say.
>>>It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart
>>>corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer,
>>>
>>>
>>>Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to
>>>BP. Let's get it done.
>>>
>>>"... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."
>>>(Bob Dylan)
>>>
>>>All best
>>>
>  >>Keith



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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hello D.V.

>Dear Mr. Keith,
>It's a long time since I participated in this knowledgeable discussion group
>tho' I've been following the discussion on topics I'm interested in, namely,
>renewable energy.

Well, whether it's advocating and campaigning or just in your 
personal choices, making a stand for what's sustainable should also 
mean standing against what's not sustainable. The list archives 
covers both of them very well, everything you need to know.

>An article on the oil disaster in the Gulf reproduced by THE HINDU from the
>GUARDIAN Newspapers might interest the community .
>The Real cost of cheap oil:  by John Vidal
>

Thankyou. John Vidal is quite right. Though I wouldn't have called 
what happened to Ken Saro-Wiwa a "public relations disaster". It was 
murder.

>... Most of the criticism centers on Shell's collusion with the 
>Nigerian government to suppress the Ogoni people on whose land in 
>the Niger delta Shell drills its wells. The oppression continues to 
>this day, and peaked in 1995 with the execution of Ogoni writer and 
>activist leader Ken Saro-Wiwa and five others.
>
>"This is it -- they are going to arrest us all and execute us. All 
>for Shell." -- Ken Saro-Wiwa, two weeks before he was arrested, May, 
>1994.
>
>Between 1976 and 1991, 2,976 oil spills blackened the Niger delta, 
>an average of four a week.

-- Shell wins Greenwash Award


>All that the affected world community can do is wring their hands in despair
>and curse their fate (if they believe in fate !!!).

And thus they win. I couldn't agree with you less.

First, it's a great mistake to think that corporations like BP and 
the others I mentioned simply consist of the people who work for 
them. There's more to it than that, more and worse. I've often 
referred to Roberto Verzola's post on "How to kill a mammoth":

>Most legal systems today recognize the registered business firm as a 
>distinct legal person, separate from its stockholders, board of 
>directors or employees. In fact, laws would often refer to "natural 
>or legal persons". It should therefore be safe to conclude that such 
>registered business firms or corporations are persons (ie, 
>organisms), but NOT "natural persons", and therefore not humans. ... 
>Today, corporations are the dominant species on the planet. ...
-- [biofuel] Mammoth corporations


"Hate the evil deed, but not the evildoer" it's rightly said, but 
that presumes evildoers are human. BP isn't human, it's not even 
alive. But it sure is evil. So feel free to (a) hate it (if you must, 
though hatred's expensive and it doesn't help much), and (b) 
exterminate it - there's no place for the likes of BP on our planet.

OUR planet - that means you and I and the rest of us ordinary 
citizens. You think we're helpless? A few years ago the New York 
Times and others were referring to us as "the Second Superpower" or 
"the Other Superpower". I think we're the only real superpower. If 
you took a close look at the mighty forces devoted day and night to 
keeping us fast asleep you'd have to conclude that they think so too.

And that's our real problem - the massive ongoing barrage of spin 
that's designed to send us back to sleep and keep us that way. But 
people keep waking up anyway, and more and more of them wake up each 
time the spinners have to resort to damage control - and the spin 
loses a little more of its grip.

 From this point of view, the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe could 
hardly have happened in a better (worse) place than the Gulf of 
Katrina.

Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana on August 29, 2005. This is from a 
list message a few days later:

>John posted a message titled "Is Katrina the end to Bush's brand of 
>'conservatism'?" ... But I think it could be or is the end of more 
>than that, and it's been kind of obvious from the time the full 
>scale and scope of the disaster became known, along with the 
>unbelievable central fact that left the rest of the world stunned - 
>that the most powerful, wealthy and capable nation there's ever been 
>had just lost a major city through sheer incompetence. Never mind 
>the Twin Towers, this is "the greatest calamity in American 
>history". What is one supposed to say? "Butterfingers!" or something?
-- Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame?
Mon, 05 Sep 2005


"Impeach Bush Now" by Paul Craig Roberts, 3 Sep 2005
... focus on the "war against terrorism" has compounded a natural 
disaster and turned it into the greatest calamity in American history.


"BP Spill Officially Worst In US History", by Kate Sheppard, 28 May 2010


Between 6 and 1

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

'Top Kill' Hype Collides With Reality


BP's experiments with truth
"(You know BP, right? The Bullshit People?)"


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Jeff]

I personally think that the dispersant that BP is using is nothing more than a 
detergent you find in motor oil.
Jeff






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Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 7:08:10 AM
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'Top Kill' Hype Collides With Reality
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/top-kill-hype-collides-wi_n_593371.html>

BP's experiments with truth
"(You know BP, right? The Bullshit People?)"
<http://www.1115.org/2010/05/28/bps-experiments-with-truth/>

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[James Machin]

I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when 
contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite us, we 
remain (almost) totally ineffective.
Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well in 
collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control corporations, 
however long that list is. 
I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide applicable piece 
of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. Seems to me that 
with such a document in hand, the lists of names would have a concrete entity 
about which to focus.
We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could then...
 'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be relentless 
about it'.

best
James
  
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[James Machin]

Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case this is 
the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:

'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax breaks the 
industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil companies in 
developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would almost 
certainly be left in the ground'.

This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the initial task 
will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not for 
profit' basis -
James

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>I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when 
>contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
> However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite us, we 
> remain (almost) totally ineffective.
> Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well in 
> collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control corporations, 
> however long that list is.
> I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide applicable 
> piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. Seems 
> to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would have a 
> concrete entity about which to focus..
> We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could 
> then...
> 'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be 
> relentless about it'.
>
> best
> James
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hello James

>I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when 
>contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite 
>us, we remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well 
>in collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control 
>corporations, however long that list is.



Yes, it's a bit "lite green", like eco-consumers shopping their way 
to a sustainable future when it's consumerism itself that's the 
problem, but BP would hate it. More effective than a list of names on 
a petition I think.

You say "a list of names alone", but why would it be alone? 
Everything helps. It needs coordination, but we've coordinated bigger 
actions than this, we can do it again.

A boycott could easily morph into a general oil boycott - there's a 
rising clamour for a major shift to biofuels, as the George Monbiot 
article you reffed suggested. Hm. George's website is down. Should we 
get paranoid about it, d'you think? :-)

Anyway the Guardian isn't down, here it is:


Better still, catch a bus or a train, or ride your bike, or walk, or 
telecommute.

>I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide 
>applicable piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of 
>corporations. Seems to me that with such a document in hand, the 
>lists of names would have a concrete entity about which to focus.

Pinch yourself James - why would you want to confine yourself within 
a framework of laws, regulations and practices that have been bought 
and paid for by the very corporations you're seeking to dismantle?

>We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could then...
>  'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be 
>relentless about it'.

Can you remember the last time that happened? I'm sure José María 
Aznar remembers it very well.

All best

Keith


>best
>James


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Fritz]

James Machin wrote:
> Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case this is 
> the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
> We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:
>
> 'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax breaks the 
> industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil companies in 
> developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would almost 
> certainly be left in the ground'.
>
> This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the initial task 
> will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not for 
> profit' basis -
> James
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "James Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>
>
>   
>> I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when 
>> contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>> However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite us, we 
>> remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>> Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well in 
>> collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control corporations, 
>> however long that list is.
>> I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide applicable 
>> piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. Seems 
>> to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would have a 
>> concrete entity about which to focus..
>> We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could 
>> then...
>> 'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be 
>> relentless about it'.
>>
>> best
>> James
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Hi James,
wasn't that what Iran did, before the Amis took their elected government 
out and replaced it whit the sha?!
Fritz

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Is BP trying to cap the Gulf oil well, or keep it flowing?
Monday, May 31, 2010
by Mike Adams


BP Has Failed at Everything Except for Lying
By Will Durst, AlterNet
Posted on May 30, 2010
BP is not concerned with plugging or cleaning or stopping or fixing 
or reimbursing. They're concerned with lying to evade responsibility.


Why Isn't BP Under Criminal Investigation?
By Jason Leopold, TruthOut.org
Posted on May 30, 2010


Oil to spill into Gulf 'for at least two more months'
Millions of gallons of oil could be gushing into the Gulf of Mexico 
for at least the next two months.
Published: 30 May 2010


BP Wants Cases Heard by Judge with Oil Ties
By Kate Sheppard| Fri May. 28, 2010


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Gavin Kalan]

for more info on oil subsidies:

http://www.endoilaid.org/

also worth checking is joel bakan's book 'the corporation', or at  
least the documentary by the same name. he argues most countries and  
US states have legal procedures for dissolving corporations if they do  
not serve the public interest. enforcing them is a different matter

/g.


On 31 May, 2010, at 17:32 , Fritz wrote:

> James Machin wrote:
>> Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case  
>> this is
>> the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
>> We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:
>>
>> 'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax  
>> breaks the
>> industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil  
>> companies in
>> developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would  
>> almost
>> certainly be left in the ground'.
>>
>> This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the  
>> initial task
>> will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not  
>> for
>> profit' basis -
>> James
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "James Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>>
>>
>>
>>> I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>>> contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>>> However, even though we now have the power of the internet to  
>>> unite us, we
>>> remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>>> Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite  
>>> well in
>>> collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control  
>>> corporations,
>>> however long that list is.
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide  
>>> applicable
>>> piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations.  
>>> Seems
>>> to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would  
>>> have a
>>> concrete entity about which to focus..
>>> We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could
>>> then...
>>> 'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be
>>> relentless about it'.
>>>
>>> best
>>> James
>>>
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> Hi James,
> wasn't that what Iran did, before the Amis took their elected  
> government
> out and replaced it whit the sha?!
> Fritz
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Tony]

Being an observer from Afar, but still part of the Global community
( Western Australia in the bush)

Maybe out of this disaster reality might take hold Keith
and people will wake up to the damage Big Oil companies
and oil itself is doing to our world and big change will come out of it
in the form of SERIOUS alternatives to Oil based fuel energy sources.

Focus more on the environmental devastation & Degradation caused by
huge oil spills
and damage it has done. then about the greed of corporate industry for
profits over habitat ,do a Edward De Bono and think Laterally out of
this with proper Direction
by those that give a damn more money should go towards proper research on
the alternative energies we need rather than spending Trillions on
new warfair that is based
over oil anyway

Tony from Toodyay West Au
AKA Moodyne Joe

*who? *
http://westaustralianvista.com/moondyne-joe.html


At 11:06 PM 27/05/2010 +0900, you wrote:
 >BP is a mad dog. Planet Earth hasn't got cancer as some people say.
 >It's got rabies. It sure takes some doing to out-dog such stalwart
 >corporate persons as ExxonMobil, Dow/Union Carbide, Monsanto, Bayer,
 >
 >
 >Everybody knows there's only one way to deal with a mad dog. Death to
 >BP. Let's get it done.
 >
 >"... and I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."
 >(Bob Dylan)
 >
 >All best
 >
 >Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hi Fritz

>Hi James,
>wasn't that what Iran did, before the Amis took their elected government
>out and replaced it whit the sha?!
>Fritz

See:

We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
<http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000158.html>

'All the Shah's Men': Regime Change, Circa 1953
NYT review of Stephen Kinzer's new book, All the Shah's Men: An
American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror:
<http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/10/books/review/10BASS.html>

Iran and the Forgotten Anniversary
<http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg27969.html>

Best

Keith


>James Machin wrote:
>>  Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case this is
>>  the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
>>  We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:
>>
>>  'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax breaks the
>>  industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil companies in
>>  developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would almost
>>  certainly be left in the ground'.
>>
>>  This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the initial task
>>  will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not for
>>  profit' basis -
>>  James
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: "James Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: 
>>  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:10 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>>
>>
>>  
>>>  I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>>>  contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>>>  However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite us, we
>>>  remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>>>  Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well in
>>>  collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control corporations,
>>>  however long that list is.
>>>  I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide applicable
>>>  piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. Seems
>>>  to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would have a
>>>  concrete entity about which to focus..
>>>  We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could
>>>  then...
>>>  'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be
>>>  relentless about it'.
>>>
>>>  best
>  >> James


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

>for more info on oil subsidies:
>
>http://www.endoilaid.org/
>
>also worth checking is joel bakan's book 'the corporation', or at 
>least the documentary by the same name. he argues most countries and 
>US states have legal procedures for dissolving corporations if they do 
>not serve the public interest. enforcing them is a different matter

Eg:

Unocal Corporation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unocal_Corporation

Doe v. Unocal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unocal_Corporation#Doe_v._Unocal

Doe v. Unocal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Unocal

A Big Win for Human Rights
http://www.thenation.com/article/big-win-human-rights

Best

Keith


>/g.
>
>
>On 31 May, 2010, at 17:32 , Fritz wrote:
>
>>  James Machin wrote:
>>>  Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case 
>>>  this is
>>>  the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
>>>  We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:
>>>
>>>  'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax 
>>>  breaks the
>>>  industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil 
>>>  companies in
>>>  developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would 
>>>  almost
>>>  certainly be left in the ground'.
>>>
>>>  This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the 
>>>  initial task
>>>  will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not 
>>>  for
>>>  profit' basis -
>>>  James
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: "James Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  To: 
>>>  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:10 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>  >>
>>>
>>>>  I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>>>>  contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>>>>  However, even though we now have the power of the internet to 
>>>>  unite us, we
>>>>  remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>>>>  Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite 
>>>>  well in
>>>>  collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control 
>>>>  corporations,
>>>>  however long that list is.
>>>>  I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide 
>>>>  applicable
>>>>  piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. 
>>>>  Seems
>>>>  to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would 
>>>>  have a
>>>>  concrete entity about which to focus..
>>>>  We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could
>>>>  then...
>>>>  'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be
>>>>  relentless about it'.
>>>>
>>>>  best
>>>>  James
>  >>>
>  >>
>>  Hi James,
>>  wasn't that what Iran did, before the Amis took their elected 
>>  government
>>  out and replaced it whit the sha?!
>  > Fritz


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[James Machin]

> Hi Fritz
> Absolutely - very depressing, especially after being reminded so 
> graphically through Keiths links.
Never the less, the possibility is still worth at least dreaming about.
best
james
>>Hi James,
>>wasn't that what Iran did, before the Amis took their elected government
>>out and replaced it whit the sha?!
>>Fritz
>
> See:
>
> We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It
> By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
> <http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000158.html>
>
> 'All the Shah's Men': Regime Change, Circa 1953
> NYT review of Stephen Kinzer's new book, All the Shah's Men: An
> American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror:
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/10/books/review/10BASS.html>
>
> Iran and the Forgotten Anniversary
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg27969.html>
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
>>James Machin wrote:
>>>  Fact is, there is probably not such a document anywhere, so in case 
>>> this is
>>>  the case, perhaps we should start drafting the document ourselves.
>>>  We can start with John Vidals comments ref the oil industy:
>>>
>>>  'If the billions of dollars of annual subsidies and the many tax breaks 
>>> the
>>>  industry gets were withdrawn, and the cost of protecting oil companies 
>>> in
>>>  developing countries were added, then most of the world's oil would 
>>> almost
>>>  certainly be left in the ground'.
>>>
>>>  This probably being somewhere near the truth, perhaps  that the initial 
>>> task
>>>  will be to nationalise all oil corporations and run them on a 'not for
>>>  profit' basis -
>>>  James
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: "James Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  To: 
>>>  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:10 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>>>>  contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>>>>  However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite 
>>>> us, we
>>>>  remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>>>>  Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well 
>>>> in
>>>>  collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control 
>>>> corporations,
>>>>  however long that list is.
>>>>  I'm wondering if anyone has drafted the terms of a world wide 
>>>> applicable
>>>>  piece of legislation, designed to limit the power of corporations. 
>>>> Seems
>>>>  to me that with such a document in hand, the lists of names would have 
>>>> a
>>>>  concrete entity about which to focus..
>>>>  We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could
>>>>  then...
>>>>  'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be
>>>>  relentless about it'.
>>>>
>>>>  best
>>  >> James
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[James Machin]

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth


Hello James

>I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite
>us, we remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well
>in collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control
>corporations, however long that list is.

<http://boycottbp.org/>

Yes, it's a bit "lite green", like eco-consumers shopping their way
to a sustainable future when it's consumerism itself that's the
problem, but BP would hate it. More effective than a list of names on
a petition I think.
There are  BP stations here. I talked with a few like minded people  about 
printing and handing out a leaflet along the lines of boycottbp to people 
entering the stations - no takers.
They figured that it would be a waste of time.


You say "a list of names alone", but why would it be alone?
Everything helps. It needs coordination, but we've coordinated bigger
actions than this, we can do it again.

Ok - I'm going to try again.

A boycott could easily morph into a general oil boycott - there's a
rising clamour for a major shift to biofuels, as the George Monbiot
article you reffed suggested. Hm. George's website is down. Should we
get paranoid about it, d'you think? :-)

Relax everyone - it's back.

Pinch yourself James - why would you want to confine yourself within
a framework of laws, regulations and practices that have been bought
and paid for by the very corporations you're seeking to dismantle?

Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
broken.
http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.htmlMy
 
main hope is that peak oil will curtail global trading and therefore kill 
the global corporations, though I expect I'm just dreaming again.

>We could then start working out the best way that 'the people' could 
>then...
>  'hold the feet of our noble leaders firmly to the fire, and to be
>relentless about it'.

Can you remember the last time that happened? I'm sure José María
Aznar remembers it very well.
Well yes, but that was more a case of our good luck in that the elections 
came at exactly the right time.
All best
James

Keith


>best
>James


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/06/02-0

Published on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 by YES! Magazine
http://www.yesmagazine.org/blogs/sarah-van-gelder/six-things-to-do-about-the-gulf-disaster

Six Things to Do About the BP Gulf Disaster

by Sarah van Gelder

Instead of sitting helplessly on the sidelines, here are six things 
every American can do.

BP has failed repeatedly to stop the gushing oil disaster in the 
Gulf. It's trying again-using a technique that risks making matters 
worse-and saying that there may be no repair until August, when it 
finishes drilling relief wells.

The media, meanwhile, is treating much of the news from the Gulf like 
it's a contest between the "Drill Baby Drill" crowd and the Obama 
administration. It's not. It's a national disaster.

While those of us outside the world of deep-sea engineering have 
limited knowledge, there are some things we can and should demand:

1. The federal government needs to take charge and put BP under 
temporary receivership as recommended by former Labor Secretary 
Robert Reich. BP was dishonest about the quantities of oil flowing 
into the Gulf, and their initial repair efforts have failed. The 
federal government is accountable to the American people, and it 
needs to decide what to do to protect our nation's water, wildlife, 
and shorelines of the Gulf (and wherever else the oil travels). As 
Reich argues, receivership would allow the government  to act with 
full authority and accountability, and to call on all the expertise 
available (not just BP's) to help make the difficult calls.

2. The cleaning and protection of coastlines needs to be ramped up. 
Whether that means hiring more local fishers, bringing in National 
Guard troops, or deploying citizen brigades on the beaches, the 
response needs to be aggressive and sustained. Even if the oil 
stopped flowing today, the contamination would continue washing up in 
sensitive coastal regions for months or longer. All workers should 
have training, equipment, and protective gear to keep them from being 
sickened by the oil and the toxic dispersants.

3. There should be generous pay for the armies of bird-rescuers and 
beach cleaners, and those out protecting shorelines with boats and 
booms. Families who are the immediate victims of the disaster should 
get first crack at the jobs, and their wages will help sustain the 
region through this economic storm. Charge BP (and any other 
companies responsible for the disaster) the full costs for as long as 
it takes to get this region clean, whether it's months or years.

4. Use the least toxic chemical dispersants and insist on full 
disclosure of the makeup of all the dispersants being dumped into the 
Gulf. The U.S. EPA should determine which dispersants, if any, are 
used based on the long-term health of the Gulf and its shorelines and 
estuaries, not based on which companies have ties with BP or which 
chemicals will be most likely to hide the effects and protect BP from 
embarrassing images of oil slicks. Use emergency powers, if 
necessary, to get a full disclosure of the makeup of the dispersants 
from BP or whoever is refusing to release it. Without this 
information, there's no way to keep the emergency responders safe, to 
properly treat stricken birds and sea life, and to assess the 
long-term damage.

5. Boycott BP, but also other oil companies. They are all spilling 
oil (see what Shell is doing in Nigeria, for example), and causing 
direct environmental damage. But using oil, no matter what company 
pumps it, is putting our entire planet at risk through disruption of 
the climate. Melting ice caps, changing rainfall patterns, 
mega-storms and failing crops are already happening, but that is only 
the beginning if we start hitting climate tipping points. We must 
kick our fossil fuel addiction. This is our part of the solution.

6. Begin a massive conversion to energy efficiency and renewable 
energy. There is a lot of  blame to go around for this disaster, from 
the practice of putting cronies in charge of regulation to the 
corporate culture of putting profits above all else. But this 
disaster is above all happening because the oil that is easy to get 
to is already taken. Now oil companies are trying to get the oil 
that's hard to reach, from deep under the oceans, from hostile 
regions of the world, and from  dirty and destructive sources like 
tar sands. We've entered a time that analyst and author Michael Klare 
calls "The Age of Tough Oil," and the costs-human, environmental, 
economic, and strategic-are rising with each new barrel. Making our 
economy more energy efficient and building a renewable energy 
infrastructure offer immediate benefits in terms of jobs and economic 
stimulus and will sustain generations to come.

Sarah van Gelder wrote this article for YES! Magazine, a national, 
nonprofit media organization that fuses powerful ideas with practical 
actions. Sarah is executive editor for YES! Magazine.

This work is 

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/06/02-20

June 2, 2010

CONTACT: Public Citizen
http://www.citizen.org/

Phone: 202-588-1000

BP's Washington, D.C., Headquarters Will Be Site of June 4 Protest 
and Mock Citizen's Arrest by Public Citizen, Environmental Justice 
and Green Job Advocate Allies

Oil Giant Faces Criminal Probe, Wrath of American People

WASHINGTON - June 2 - Public Citizen, Friends of the Earth, 
Greenpeace, Energy Action Coalition, Chesapeake Climate Action 
Network, 350.org, Center for Biological Diversity and Hip Hop Caucus 
will articulate the outrage Americans everywhere are feeling by 
making a citizen's arrest of BP CEO Tony Hayward.

The public interest and environmental groups will list charges 
against the corporation, including worker safety and environmental 
violations, price-gouging, negligence and the inability to adequately 
respond to the mounting catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico and 
surrounding communities. The charges will culminate in a finding of 
criminal negligence and the presentation of a prison jumpsuit fitted 
for Hayward.

The action is intended to underscore the seriousness of BP's failure 
to protect the lives of workers and the environment, and to highlight 
the need for the U.S. to move away from inherently dangerous and 
dirty fuel to clean energy sources.

WHEN: Noon EDT, Friday, June 4

WHERE: BP, 1101 New York Ave. NW, Washington, D.C.

VISUALS: Giant inflatable oil barrel, signs and banners, list of 
charges and "Tony Hayward" in prison jumpsuit

WHY: Hayward oversees a company that is responsible for causing the 
worst environmental disaster in U.S. history. BP has one of the worst 
records of environmental and worker safety violations of any oil 
company operating in the U.S. The company was on criminal probation 
at the time of the accident for violating two U.S. environmental 
laws. It has paid $730 million in fines and settlements in the past 
few years for environmental and worker safety violations, as well as 
manipulating energy markets.

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

More pretty pictures:


Somebody has to pay. They will never finish paying.

Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
- Robert Louis Stevenson

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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

Hello again James

>>Hello James
>>
>>>I like the idea that 'when the people lead, the leaders follow' when
>>>contemplating  how we are to control corporations.
>>>However, even though we now have the power of the internet to unite
>>>us, we remain (almost) totally ineffective.
>>>Yes, we have Avaaz and similar groups that are succeeding quite well
>>>in collecting names, but a list of names alone will not control
>>>corporations, however long that list is.
>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, it's a bit "lite green", like eco-consumers shopping their way
>>to a sustainable future when it's consumerism itself that's the
>>problem, but BP would hate it. More effective than a list of names on
>>a petition I think.
>
>There are  BP stations here. I talked with a few like minded people  about
>printing and handing out a leaflet along the lines of boycottbp to people
>entering the stations - no takers.
>They figured that it would be a waste of time.

If it succeeded in persuading even one motorist, would it be a waste 
of time? How can you know in advance how many other motorists that 
motorist might persuade, or what else he or she might do? Don't focus 
on trying to solve the whole problem all at once, just do what you 
can. It's just a drop in the ocean, sure, but that's what oceans are 
made of, lots of little drops.

"Never doubt that a small, highly committed group of individuals can 
change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- 
Margaret Mead

>>You say "a list of names alone", but why would it be alone?
>>Everything helps. It needs coordination, but we've coordinated bigger
>>actions than this, we can do it again.
>
>Ok - I'm going to try again.

Good, strength to your arm.

>>A boycott could easily morph into a general oil boycott - there's a
>>rising clamour for a major shift to biofuels, as the George Monbiot
>>article you reffed suggested. Hm. George's website is down. Should we
>>get paranoid about it, d'you think? :-)
>
>Relax everyone - it's back.

:-) What a relief.

>>Pinch yourself James - why would you want to confine yourself within
>>a framework of laws, regulations and practices that have been bought
>>and paid for by the very corporations you're seeking to dismantle?
>
>Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
>Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
>modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
>Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
>determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
>and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
>ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
>broken.
>http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html

[biofuel] Mammoth corporations
Keith Addison
23 Dec 2003

You're reminding me of that? Well, that makes a change I suppose, but 
you misread it, your conclusion is the opposite of Roberto Verzola's 
intention, though he states it clearly. "This is what we need to 
address," he says - ADDRESS, deal with it, not lie down and accept it.

Why the selective quote? Why leave out all the bits that matter? Why 
rig it to make the case look hopeless?

Roberto says "In prehistoric ages, our ancestors learned how to 
repel, disable or kill an attacking mammoth; the challenge of our age 
is learning how to do the same with corporations."

It's a CHALLENGE, not a prison sentence.

Please go back to that url and read the whole thing again:


>My
>main hope is that peak oil will curtail global trading and therefore kill
>the global corporations, though I expect I'm just dreaming again.

When do you think that might happen? Did you follow the previous 
discussions about Peak Oil? Do a bit of digging, see if you can find 
anything about Peak Oil that you could describe as a fact (there 
aren't any). See if you can find any dates or even just vague 
estimates for the onset of Peak Oil that aren't faith-based (you 
won't). Peak Oil is for true-believers. I said at the time I'd prefer 
to keep faith for the ineffable rather than for such matters as 
petroleum reserves, murky waters indeed. If petroleum is a finite 
resource (there are arguments about that too) then it follows that at 
some stage it will start to run out, but just when that might be is 
anybody's guess (and that might include the Big Oil companies).

Something else about the Peak Oilers is that if you scratch them a 
little all this extremely ugly depopulationist stuff oozes out - four 
or five billion people (all the poor ones of course) are just going 
to have to crawl off somewhere and die so that "we" (the ones who've 
wasted all the oil) can continue to live in the style to which we're 
accustomed, and so on. :-(

By the way, if anybody wants to argue about all this, whether Peak 
Oil or over-population, please

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

There's also this:

"We are seeing the emergence of a remarkable phenomenon: militant 
activism by thousands from all over the world taking action..."

Militant activists taking action, right, that's what'll work, and 
nothing else will.

It makes no difference that the quote comes from a report on the 
other mad dogs who're in need of some restraint:

A Global Civil Society Campaign to De-Legitimise Israel?
By Thalif Deen
UNITED NATIONS, Jun 4, 2010 (IPS)


And this:

Why BP is a textbook psychopath
BY Keith Harrington
3 JUN 2010


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Published on Friday, June 4, 2010 by YES! Magazine


Real People v. Corporate "People": The Fight Is On

by Doug Pibel

In 2009, Riki Ott was on the road for 252 days educating people about 
the dangers of "corporate personhood." That's the legal doctrine that 
says corporations have constitutional rights, just like human beings. 
She mostly spoke in academic settings, and there was some interest in 
the idea, says Ott, but not much.

All that changed on January 21, 2010, when the U.S. Supreme Court 
handed down its decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election 
Commission. Now interest has skyrocketed, and Ott finds people eager 
to volunteer, to organize, to meet, to do anything to reverse the 
Court's decision.

Rallying Around Citizens United

Supreme Court cases are usually interesting to lawyers, scholars, and 
those directly affected. Occasionally, a decision makes the news for 
a few days before disappearing from the public eye. But sometimes 
there's a game changer-a decision that is so clearly wrong that it 
becomes a rallying point. David Cobb, former Green Party presidential 
candidate and longtime activist on corporate personhood, points to 
Dred Scott v. Sandford as one such decision. Citizens United, Cobb 
says, is shaping up as another.

The two cases are mirror images of error. In 1857, the Dred Scott 
decision said that a flesh-and-blood human being had no 
constitutional rights because he was black. On January 21, 2010, the 
Court, in a 5-4 decision, used Citizens United to declare that 
corporations-legal entities with no human attributes-have the same 
constitutional free-speech rights that humans have.

Dred Scott was the most notorious Supreme Court decision of its time. 
It was not a groundbreaking case-it simply took existing law to its 
logical conclusion. But it so clearly violated both logic and human 
decency that it forced people to look at what slavery really meant. 
Rather than legitimizing the status quo, as it was intended to do, 
the decision galvanized the growing abolitionist movement, and set 
the stage for the end of slavery. But it took the 14th Amendment to 
overturn Dred Scott.

Citizens United also takes existing law to its logical conclusion. 
And, like Dred Scott, it is generating tremendous discussion and 
debate-this time about corporate power and about what role, if any, 
corporations should play in the political process.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll taken February 4-8, 2010, found that 
80 percent of Americans oppose the Court's ruling, including 65 
percent who "strongly" oppose it. Opposition cuts across the 
political spectrum: 85 percent of Democrats oppose the ruling, as do 
81 percent of Independents, and 76 percent of Republicans.

Within days of the Citizens United decision, groups formed to undo 
the Court's damage. They are pursuing remedies ranging from local 
ordinances to federal legislation to a constitutional amendment.

Why Should We Care

Citizens United says that corporations can spend unlimited amounts of 
money on political advertising. The Court declared more than 30 years 
ago that spending money is a form of speech, and that corporations 
had a First Amendment right to speak that way. But there were still 
limits, particularly in the area of political speech, where there is 
a century-old tradition of controlling the influence of corporations 
on the electoral process.

Citizens United takes away those limits. According to the Court, if 
human beings are allowed an unrestricted right to free speech, then 
corporations must have the same right.

The Court overturned a key provision of the McCain-Feingold 
campaign-finance reform law that prohibited corporate- and 
union-funded campaign advertising within 90 days of a federal 
election. Now, corporations can spend unlimited money influencing our 
elections right up to Election Day.

More than $5 billion was spent on the 2008 campaigns with the 
McCain-Feingold law in place. If that seems like a lot of money, wait 
for the next election cycle. Citizens United was a case about a 
corporation spending money to advertise and air a movie that amounted 
to a hit piece on Hilary C

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[James Machin]

 >Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
>Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
>modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
>Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
>determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
>and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
>ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
>broken.
>http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html

[biofuel] Mammoth corporations
Keith Addison
23 Dec 2003

You're reminding me of that? Well, that makes a change I suppose, but
you misread it, your conclusion is the opposite of Roberto Verzola's
intention, though he states it clearly. "This is what we need to
address," he says - ADDRESS, deal with it, not lie down and accept it.

I've never been accused of that before - what gives you that impression?

Why the selective quote? Why leave out all the bits that matter? Why
rig it to make the case look hopeless?

Now hang on a minute, the last thing I intend is to make thee case look 
hopeless. If I'd wanted to do that I woild also have included his next 
para...
On those occasions when humans manage a victory, it almost never... etc.I 
simply think that it's a very good idea not to underestimate the enemy. The 
para I pasted does thatjob very well, which is why I selected it.I'm with 
Roberto all the way!
  >My>main hope is that peak oil will curtail global trading and therefore 
kill>the global corporations, though I expect I'm just dreaming again.When 
do you think that might happen? Well, I took the impression, with what 
happened to the food chain in 2008  (diverted to biofuel causing food supply 
havoc world wide) that the 87mb a day was the limit, and that demand exceed 
that figure at that time.  But who knows - certainly not me.However, I sure 
do HOPE that's what happened. I'm  one of those who will welcome oil descent 
with open arms - sooner the better.Something else about the Peak Oilers is 
that if you scratch them a little all this extremely ugly depopulationist 
stuff oozes out - four or five billion people (all the poor ones of course) 
are just going to have to crawl off somewhere and die so that "we" (the ones 
who've wasted all the oil) can continue to live in the style to which we're 
accustomed, and so on. :-(Actually Ive never come accross that point of view 
in my peak oil readings - could you let me have a ref or 2?In any case, I 
have to admit that I don't have a great deal of confidence that the humans 
are going to remain the dominent species on earth for much longer anyway. 
We're just so - what's the word? - 'Naff' ?Not exactly the right word, but 
close.  even if Peak Oil arrives yesterday BP et al will succeed in killing 
us and our planet well before any hoped-for collapse in global trading kills 
them.So let's all prey it happened in 2008.Can't you find something a little 
more hopeful to pin your hopes on?Quite frankly - no, but I'm always open to 
suggestions,and I'm still working on the 'when the people lead' thing - just 
in case I'm wrong.bestJames. 


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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

You just take not a blind bit of notice, do you, James?

And, apart from the content, as such, how on earth do you manage to 
make such a mess out of a simple email exchange? Can YOU tell who 
said what from the dog's breakfast you've left below?

Well, have it your way, I'm not going to argue with you. And you are 
not going to argue with me. Nor with the archives, for which you show 
such scant regard.

Keith


>  >Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
>  >Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
>>modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
>>Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
>>determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
>>and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
>>ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
>>broken.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html
>
>[biofuel] Mammoth corporations
>Keith Addison
>23 Dec 2003
>
>You're reminding me of that? Well, that makes a change I suppose, but
>you misread it, your conclusion is the opposite of Roberto Verzola's
>intention, though he states it clearly. "This is what we need to
>address," he says - ADDRESS, deal with it, not lie down and accept it.
>
>I've never been accused of that before - what gives you that impression?
>
>Why the selective quote? Why leave out all the bits that matter? Why
>rig it to make the case look hopeless?
>
>Now hang on a minute, the last thing I intend is to make thee case look
>hopeless. If I'd wanted to do that I woild also have included his next
>para...
>On those occasions when humans manage a victory, it almost never... etc.I
>simply think that it's a very good idea not to underestimate the enemy. The
>para I pasted does thatjob very well, which is why I selected it.I'm with
>Roberto all the way!
>   >My>main hope is that peak oil will curtail global trading and therefore
>kill>the global corporations, though I expect I'm just dreaming again.When
>do you think that might happen? Well, I took the impression, with what
>happened to the food chain in 2008  (diverted to biofuel causing food supply
>havoc world wide) that the 87mb a day was the limit, and that demand exceed
>that figure at that time.  But who knows - certainly not me.However, I sure
>do HOPE that's what happened. I'm  one of those who will welcome oil descent
>with open arms - sooner the better.Something else about the Peak Oilers is
>that if you scratch them a little all this extremely ugly depopulationist
>stuff oozes out - four or five billion people (all the poor ones of course)
>are just going to have to crawl off somewhere and die so that "we" (the ones
>who've wasted all the oil) can continue to live in the style to which we're
>accustomed, and so on. :-(Actually Ive never come accross that point of view
>in my peak oil readings - could you let me have a ref or 2?In any case, I
>have to admit that I don't have a great deal of confidence that the humans
>are going to remain the dominent species on earth for much longer anyway.
>We're just so - what's the word? - 'Naff' ?Not exactly the right word, but
>close.  even if Peak Oil arrives yesterday BP et al will succeed in killing
>us and our planet well before any hoped-for collapse in global trading kills
>them.So let's all prey it happened in 2008.Can't you find something a little
>more hopeful to pin your hopes on?Quite frankly - no, but I'm always open to
>suggestions,and I'm still working on the 'when the people lead' thing - just
>in case I'm wrong.bestJames.


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[Keith Addison]

Many Gulf federal judges have oil links, complicating assignments on 
spill lawsuits
Published June 06, 2010
Associated Press
MIAMI (AP) - More than half of the federal judges in districts where 
the bulk of Gulf oil spill-related lawsuits are pending have 
financial connections to the oil and gas industry, complicating the 
task of finding judges without conflicts to hear the cases, an 
Associated Press analysis of judicial financial disclosure reports 
shows.


Sarah Palin's response to the ongoing environmental disaster in the 
Gulf of Mexico is to advocate for [sic] expanded oil drilling in a 
pristine natural habitat, the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.



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[Keith Addison]

June 8, 2010
1:09 PM
CONTACT: Earthjustice
Liz Judge, (202) 667-4500, ext. 237
http://www.earthjustice.org/

Murkowski and Allies Clamor to Protect Big Oil in Face of Gulf Crisis

Vote on resolution Thursday is a test of allegiances: Big Oil or the 
American people?

WASHINGTON - June 8 -  On Thursday, June 10, the U.S. Senate will 
vote on a resolution by Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) to reverse the 
Environmental Protection Agency's finding that greenhouse gases 
endanger public health and will be regulated under the Clean Air Act. 
This proposal would also nullify the fuel efficiency standards for 
all cars and trucks finalized this spring that would reduce our 
nation's dependence on oil and promote major pollution cuts. Today, 
Sen. Murkowski and several Republican allies are holding a press 
conference to solicit support for this measure before the vote.

The following statement is from Earthjustice senior legislative 
representative Sarah Saylor:

"This resolution by Senator Murkowski shows that she will go to great 
lengths to protect big-money polluters. This is the same senator who 
has gone to bat for BP, blocking a law that would hold oil companies 
accountable for the full costs of their spills. Now she and her 
allies want to give all of the fossil fuel special interests in this 
country a break by gutting our Clean Air Act.

"Sen. Murkowski's resolution puts special interests above the public 
interest by protecting these violators and irresponsible 
corporations, which want nothing more than to see America remain 
hooked on their dirty fossil fuels. Sen. Murkowski and her allies are 
putting not only the health of the American people at risk, but also 
our economic future by delaying a move to clean-energy alternatives.

"This vote on Thursday is two things. First, it is a red herring, a 
distraction from the real task at hand before the Senate: to find a 
way forward toward a sustainable and prosperous clean-energy future. 
Second, it is a test. Which senators are on the side of big, 
influential, dirty fossil fuel industries at this moment of man-made 
crisis in American history? And which are on the side of the American 
people and working to guarantee us a clean and healthy future? We 
will know the answer on Thursday."

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this earth, and to defending the right of all people to a healthy 
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[Keith Addison]

Years of Internal BP Probes Warned That Neglect Could Lead to Accidents
by Abrahm Lustgarten and Ryan Knutson
Published on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 by Pro Publica
A series of internal investigations over the past decade warned 
senior BP managers that the company repeatedly disregarded safety and 
environmental rules and risked a serious accident if it did not 
change its ways.


Most (Sadly) Ironic Sign Seen at BP Station
This picture was sent in to the Rachel Maddow show by Mark and Vicki 
Cipolle. It's worth a thousand words, so I'll just leave it at that.


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BP: 500,000 pounds of emissions released

By T.J. Aulds
The Daily News
Published June 5, 2010

TEXAS CITY - At BP's Texas City refinery, more than 400 pounds a day 
of benzene - 40 times the state reportable levels - was released 
during a 40-day period while a subunit of the refinery's ultracracker 
unit was offline, according to a company filing with the state's 
environmental agency Friday.

In all, BP officials said more than 500,000 pounds of pollutants and 
nonpollutants were released while the company increased flaring as 
they tried to repair a compressor on the faulty unit.

Refinery spokesman Michael Marr said in its follow up reporting with 
the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, BP estimated 36,000 
pounds of nitrogen oxides and 17,000 pounds of benzene were released 
in the 40 days. State law requires 10 pounds or more of benzene and 
200 pounds or more of nitrogen oxide during a 24-hour period must be 
reported through the commission's air emissions database.

Benzene is a carcinogen naturally found in oil that has been linked 
to some forms of cancer, according to U.S. Health and Human Services 
records. Nitrogen oxides react to sunlight to form ozone and can 
damage lung tissue and cause respiratory problems.

However, neither of the levels of the emissions reached levels that 
required self-reporting to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, 
Marr said. The EPA requires any nitrogen oxides release of more than 
1,000 pounds a day be reported, while the federal agency does not 
require reports of benzene emissions.

According to BP's filing with the TCEQ, the ultracracker's hydrogen 
compressor went offline April 6 and was not repaired or restarted 
until May 16.

Because of the malfunction, the subunit was shut down, and materials 
were purged and gasses were rerouted to a flare, according to the 
company's filing.

The ultracracker, which remained operable, can process 65,000 barrels 
of oil per day and mostly produces high-octane blending components 
for gasoline. The ultracracker also can produce ethane, propane, 
butane, pentane, hexane and distillate.

The bulk of the emissions during that time included an estimated 
189,000 pounds of carbon monoxide and 61,000 pounds of propane, 
according to the company's report to the TCEQ.

"During this time period, the site's fenceline monitoring did not 
indicate any excess readings," Marr said. "Also of note, the site 
performed modeling of the emissions using TCEQ-approved modeling 
methods, and that modeling did not indicate an exceedance of 
regulatory exposure limits to workers or the community at any time 
during the flaring."

TCEQ spokeswoman Andrea Morrow said the filing starts a process that 
includes a review by the agency that could end up before the 
commission's enforcement division. She said depending on why and what 
caused the emissions, the agency could take enforcement action.

But without knowing the specifics of the BP emissions, she could not 
comment on what action the agency could or would take.

She did caution the figures BP included in its report likely were 
estimates that will be higher than what actually was released.

She said companies that underreport emissions face penalties. So the 
companies often will "shoot high," Morrow said.

According to BP's TCEQ filing, all of the figures were estimates.

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Benzene Emissions

According to a 2008 report by the Environmental Integrity Project, 
BP's Texas City refinery was among four refineries in the nation that 
had the largest increases in benzene emissions even as overall 
benzene emissions among U.S. refiners decreased by more than 18 
percent between 2000 and 2008.

The environmental group claims refiners actually underreport how much 
of the carcinogen is released because of inadequate EPA standards.

However, according to a report to the Texas City-La Marque Community 
Advisory Council by the Galveston County Health District's director 
of Environmental Health last summer, benzene emissions in Texas City 
decreased by 74 percent between 1993 and 2008. That report does not 
single out BP nor attribute how much each of the city's chemical 
plants or refineries reduced benzene emissions.

SOURCE: Envir

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

From: "Robert Weissman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [corp-focus] Closing BP's Escape Routes
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010

Closing BP's Escape Routes
By Robert Weissman
June 15, 2010

BP generates enough cash to absorb its liabilities from the oil 
gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

But that doesn't mean it will.

One of the benefits of the corporate form is that it gives giant 
corporations the ability to escape liability. BP may or may not 
choose to capitalize on such escapes, but it would be foolish to 
presume that it won't. That's why President Obama's call for the 
company to establish a $20 billion escrow account is such a positive 
and needed -- if still inadequate -- step.

Consider first the liabilities that BP may face. No one really knows 
what the damage from the oil gusher or the overall costs to BP may 
ultimately be. Some analysts are now throwing around numbers of $70 
billion on the upper end -- but it's not hard to see how the ultimate 
cost to BP could rise even higher.

The company faces civil fines of up to $3,000 per barrel of oil 
polluting the ocean. If the gusher lasts for four months at 40,000 
barrels a day, the fine alone could hit $14 billion. If it is found 
that the actual oil flow is double that level, the fine could 
potentially approach $30 billion -- more, if the gusher lasts for 
more than four months.

Beyond the payments the company is making, it is going to face 
massive lawsuits, with damages surely in the billions and quite 
possibly in the tens of billions. On top of that, it may face a 
massive punitive damage award. Exxon challenged a punitive damages 
award of $10 billion in the Valdez case, and succeeded through 
appeals in dragging out payment for 20 years and lowering the amount 
to $500 million. But that was $500 million on top of compensatory 
damages of $500 million.

On top of all this, BP's brand -- just a couple months ago, the most 
valued among oil companies -- is now ruined.

Still, as hard as it is to conceptualize, BP can afford to pay $70 
billion. The company made $14 billion in profits in 2009, a bad year. 
Before the Gulf disaster, it was on track to make much more in 2010.

BP may be able to pay $70 billion, but it surely doesn't want to. 
Even as the company pledges again and again to cover all "legitimate" 
claims, you can be sure that its attorneys are conjuring a variety of 
maneuvers to avoid paying. Here are five approaches they must be 
considering:

1. The AH Robins/Dalkon Shield Bankruptcy Scam

A.H. Robins, the manufacturer of the defective Dalkon Shield 
intrauterine device, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1985. Women 
who were victims of the dangerous device received less compensation 
than they otherwise would have. Meanwhile, with the company's 
otherwise open-ended liability demarcated in the bankruptcy process, 
Robins' value shot up. AHP (now part of Wyeth, itself now part of 
Pfizer) acquired the company at a premium, with the Robins family 
making off with hundreds of millions of dollars.

BP wouldn't follow the Robins' model exactly. The play for BP would 
not be to declare bankruptcy for the parent company, but for BP 
America or another subsidiary that could be tagged with the liability 
for the Gulf of Mexico gusher.

In advance of such a move, BP might try to move assets out of the 
designated subsidiary and into other subsidiaries in its vast 
network. Such asset shifting is not permissible, and creditors would 
challenge any such moves, if they could discover them. But using its 
labyrinthian structure, BP might hope to evade the creditors.

Even without the asset shifting effort, bankruptcy for an affiliate 
could prove attractive for BP.

2. The Union Carbide Disappearance

Union Carbide was the company responsible for the world's worst 
industrial disaster. A gas escape from its chemical facility in 
Bhopal, India killed many thousands (likely tens of thousands) and 
severely injured tens of thousands more. After settling for a paltry 
amount with the Indian government, Union Carbide disappeared as a 
standalone company. It is now a subsidiary of Dow Chemical.

Says Dow: "Dow has no responsibility for Bhopal." Moreover, "the 
former Bhopal plant was owned and operated by Union Carbide India, 
Ltd. (UCIL), an Indian company, with shared ownership by Union 
Carbide Corporation, the Indian government, and private investors. 
Union Carbide sold its shares in UCIL in 1994, and UCIL was renamed 
Eveready Industries India, Ltd., which remains a significant Indian 
company today."

BP might conceivably be acquired by another oil major. Or, more 
likely, it might just sell some or all of its U.S. subsidiaries. If 
the liability cap in the Oil Pollution Act works to protect BP from 
legally recoverable claims (perhaps less likely than has been 
reported, since the cap does not apply to a spill caused by violation 
of applicable federal rules), an acquiring company could simply state 
that it refuses to mak

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth

[Keith Addison]

BP Skirts Offshore Drilling Moratorium by Building an Island 3 Miles 
Off Alaska Coast
Posted By Byard Duncan On June 24, 2010 @ 7:50 am In Environment


'Reasonably high' chance BP files for bankruptcy
BY Derek Thompson
23 JUN 2010


Venezuela to Nationalize US-Owned Oil Rigs
Published on Thursday, June 24, 2010 by Al-Jazeera-English


Hands Across The Sand: In Opposition to Offshore Drilling, This 
Saturday Activists Nationwide Join Hands
Published on Thursday, June 24, 2010 by Audubon Magazine


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Published on Thursday, June 24, 2010 by CommonDreams.org

Beyond Petroleum

by Robert C. Koehler

You couldn't call it a dialogue. It was more like a momentary rip in 
the global power continuum, a spill of outrage on the stage of a 
major oil conference in London.

On Tuesday, two Greenpeace activists interrupted a speech by British 
Petroleum chief of staff Steve Westwell - sandwiched him at his 
podium, trespassed on time and space that didn't belong to them, and 
spoke to an audience that hadn't come to hear them. They had about 20 
seconds, not much time to talk about the complexity of ecosystems or 
draw attention, say, to the plight of the Gulf of Mexico's Sargassum 
algae. They did the best they could.

One unfurled a banner that read "Go Beyond Petroleum." The other, as 
she was being ushered off the stage and out of the hotel, shouted, 
"We need to speed up progress and make a push to end the oil age."

That was it. Time's up. That's how protest is - shouted and 
emotional, sometimes illegal. Even when it's videotaped and the world 
gets to witness those 20 seconds of public theater, all we hear are 
slogans, all we see are disruption and scuffle: disorder, quickly 
dealt with. Money gets its hair mussed a little, then returns to its 
agenda. Nothing seems to change. The disorder implicit in that agenda 
returns to "let our children worry about it" status, and we remain on 
the track described by Ronald Wright in A Short History of Progress, 
his investigation into why civilizations collapse:

"The concentration of power at the top of large-scale societies gives 
the elite a vested interest in the status quo; they continue to 
prosper in darkening times long after the environment and general 
populace begin to suffer."

As though still on the podium with the BP exec, I claim a little more 
time to open up that Greenpeace slogan, to address its implications 
not in the abstract but in the presence of those who profit from our 
stagnation within the oil age, whatever that might mean. After all, 
it's their future too.

For it to matter whether or not we move "beyond petroleum," there has 
to be a spiritual, not just a technical, dimension to the concept. It 
implies, I think, a fundamental break with the domination impulse by 
which we have "tamed" nature over the millennia of recorded history 
and built our unstable civilizations, propped up by war and conquest. 
Moving beyond petroleum means moving beyond our uncritical acceptance 
of a fragmented world and fragmented sense of responsibility.

Indeed, it means moving beyond the gospel that competing fragments, 
each looking out for its own "self-interest" (a.k.a., capitalism), is 
the highest form of order we can hope for. Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, 
the highest-ranking Republican on the House energy committee, 
demonstrated the sham nature of this system last week, when he 
apologized to BP for the $20 billion escrow account President Obama 
ordered the company to establish, calling it a "shakedown."

Turns out, A) "Of the five Gulf Coast states, Mr. Barton's Texas is 
the only one whose beaches, fisheries and tourist haunts are not 
threatened by oil spewing from BP's ruined well," the New York Times 
reported; and B) ". . . the oil and gas industry have been Mr. 
Barton's biggest source of campaign money . . . contributing $1.4 
million since the 1990 election cycle," the Times added.

At the very least, capitalism in its unregulated, most virulent form 
- fragmentation capitalism, you might say - which was set loose in 
the Reagan era, has to be contained. No small task. U.S. District 
Judge Martin Feldman, a Reagan appointee (with stockholder interest 
in the drilling industry), recently overturned Obama's six-month 
moratorium on new deepwater drilling in the Gulf (which would affect 
operations at 33 of 3,600 sites), siding with the argument that one 
blown deepwater well is "no proof" the others constitute a threat - 
no matter that the consequences of another accident would be 
cataclysmic.

The decision is proof of the status-quo aversion to long-range 
thinking - or thin

Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth - Seize the BP assets Demo on June 10th

[Rob Hayes]

e and convert hydrates to gas, 
producing a "kick".

An uncontrolled "kick" can lead to a blow out."...










From: James Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 1:36:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth


>Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
>Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
>modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
>Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
>determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
>and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
>ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
>broken.
>http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html

[biofuel] Mammoth corporations
Keith Addison
23 Dec 2003




  
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Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth - Seize the BP assets Demo on June 10th

[Keith Addison]

resulting violent 
>expulsion of fluid from the drill string is referred to as a 
>"kick".[28]
>
>Measures which reduce the risk of hydrate formation include:
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> * High flow-rates in the drill string, which limit the time for 
>hydrate formation in a volume of fluid, thereby reducing the kick 
>potential.[28]
> * Careful measuring of line flow to detect incipient hydrate plugging.[28]
> * Additional care in measuring when gas production rates are 
>low, and the possibility of hydrate formation is higher than at 
>relatively high gas flow rates.[28]
> * Monitoring of well casing after it is "shut in" (isolated) 
>will indicate hydrate formation. Following "shut in", the pressure 
>rises as gas diffuses through the reservoir to the bore hole; the 
>rate of pressure rise will exhibit a reduced rate of increase when 
>hydrates are forming.[28]
> * Additions of energy (e.g., the energy released by setting 
>cement used in well completion) can raise the temperature and 
>convert hydrates to gas, producing a "kick".
>
>An uncontrolled "kick" can lead to a blow out."...
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>From: James Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 1:36:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Scum of the earth
>
>
>>Fair enough, but lest we forget just what we're up against...
>>Prehistoric humans knew how to kill the largest beasts of their time;
>>modern humans have not yet learned how to kill corporations.
>>Individual humans have practically no hope of fighting off a
>>determined corporate attack. Most confrontations between corporations
>>and communities of humans end up in corporate victory, with humans
>>ending up dead, maimed or subdued and domesticated, their human will
>>broken.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html
>
>[biofuel] Mammoth corporations
>Keith Addison
>23 Dec 2003


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