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[Tim Ferguson]

Here are a couple of good reads that contrast how the EU governments
approach Renewable, Environmentally sound fuels and how the US Government is
stumbling towards what should have already been done.

The EU Article.
http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1035320&l=1&t=Iowa+%2F+Illinois
&c=24,1035320

The US Article
http://www.mysan.de/article19643.html


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[bolivera]

As a new reader of the list and new to the biofuel concept, are there any 
specific things I need to be aware of in looking at a car to run the biodiesel? 

The only current production diesel available in the states, that I have found 
is the one by VW that is used in the Jetta and the Golf. Are there others?  I 
do not have a problem with buying older models either.  Any particular make or 
model that seems to have the least amount of issues using the biodiesel?  I am 
new to diesels as well.

I will start reading the archives, but I would like to get some of these 
answers to start me looking in the right direction for a car.

Thanks in advance.


Boliver Allmon

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[Amzi Smith]

pump mounted on the side of the injection pump.  If it is hesitating or 
bucking it is most likely originally caused by a bad fuel filter there 
are two of them the prefilter before the fuel pump and the primary fuel 
filter after the pump going back down to the injection pump inlet.  
Once opened the air in the system can become very difficult to remove 
sometimes requiring the lines to the injectors to be opened in order to 
bleed.  this process can take up to 15 minutes.  You can also check for 
blockages in the fuel lines simply with compressed air but factory 
mercedes hoses like the rest of the car is amazingly over engineered 
and are very apparently biodiesel  resistent. 
 


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[mkmiller]

What do you mean specifically? Why only reference Christianity? What is the 
secret that nobody seems to be able to spell out?

If the truth is so incomprehensible and unobtainable how can anyone be expected 
to know it when they find it?


Michael M




Better start thinking neocons and giving biblical prophecy
a helping hand.  A lot more there than meets the eye.
 Nasty business.  Takes some digging and some understanding
of fundamental Christianity.  Rational to them but very,
very scary.

Happy Happy,

Gustl


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> Darryl wrote:
> 
> "Clearly, "taking out Saddam" had nothing to do with
> weapons of mass destruction 
> (the U.N. inspectors had all but proven he had none
> before the U.S. found the 
> courage to invade), or 9/11 (the plans were in play in
> the U.S. Administration 
> *before* the planes hit the towers).  It was not about
> getting the oil, as it 
> was 
> available for sale on the world market prior to the
> invasion.  It wasn't about 
> Iraq 
> as a military threat in the region - the U.S. and U.K.
> were flying military and 
> surveillance over the country *daily* prior to the
> invasion.  It wasn't about 
> Al-
> Qaeda - they despised Saddam.  Hussein did not attack or
> threaten the U.S.
> 
> So, Henri, in your opinion, why had the Bush White House
> really decided to 
> invade 
> Iraq - prior to 9/11?"
> 
> 
> Could it be because the UN sanctions were failing and
> about to be lifted? The US was not about to allow the
> Saddam administration to get $10+ Billion in oil revenue
> each year knowing they would use it to resume their
> weapons programs. 
> 
> No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction yet,
> but they did have the know how and planned to build them
> ASAP once the sanctions were lifted.
> 
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[The Casey's]

Biofuel list
I have the opportunity to supply waste oil for fuel.
I am trying to find out how to clean used oil after I collect it.
I have been unable to find info on cleaning and storage standards.
I know a certain amount of filtering is required.
What % of water can be expected to separate out in X time at 70Ftemp? Do I
need bactericide or additives?
How do I test for %-hydrolyzed water?
What PH am I looking for and how do I adjust?
Is there no SOP for doing this somewhere!?
Thanks Al

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[Theo Chadzichristos]

Subject: [Biofuel] Free to good home:  Methanol


Dear brian ,

Im in a suburb of chicago and am intersted in your methanol drum. If you
could post what city you live in so i can calculate the mileage from where i
live. I woulndt mind driving a bit to pick it up but only with some reason.
Thanks

Theo Chadzichristos

>
> I still have a virtually untapped drum of methanol in Indiana, and will be
> moving to California in less than two weeks.  I'm not going to want to try
> transporting it across country, and I do want to see it go to someone who
> will use it.  If anyone wants it, let me know.  I'm in central Indiana,
> about 35 miles north of Indianapolis.
>
> Brian

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[Kim & Garth Travis]

I just had to share this.
Bright Blessings,
Kim


OSLO, Norway There appears to be somewhat of a cultural divide
between Texans and Norwegians.

Residents of the Scandinavian country were taken aback when they saw the 
First Family appear to salute Satan during the inaugural parade

yesterday.

The president and his family were seen raising their right hands and 
extending their index and pinky fingers.


Where Bush is from, that's recognized as a salute to the University
of Texas Longhorns. Fans make the sign and shout "Hook 'em, horns!"
during athletic events.

But overseas, that same gesture is seen as a sign of the devil. And
in Norway the salute is popular among death metal and black metal
groups and fans.

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[ccm]

Dear Sir/Madam,

How can I get out of left glycerin left in biodiesel.

Regards,

cuneyt

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[ianwade]

Where do you get a small amount of sodium hydroxide from
Is it the same as baking soda or something / has it got an alternative name.
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[willyhlii]

I have been making biodiesel using ethanol for about a year.  Methanol is 
$500 a barrel in Hawaii. I'm having some difficulty with partial conversions 
with substantial vegetable oil remaining dissolved in the ethyl esters 
demonstrable by the methanol test.  I have been using 99% alcohol I make from 
sugarcane that I grow.  I am currently using all distillation fractions 
including the light and heavy alcohol portions.  Any thoughts on whether it 
would 
be better to use only the ethanol fraction in order to encourage more 
complete conversions? Lee
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[Dawie Coetzee]

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[gumpon]

Dear Keith
I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin, 
crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than 
15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of 
the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear 
liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or 
suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the 
locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the 
ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
Regards
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[andyrep]

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  "This is one of my rare postings to this list, I believe that I speak for 
all
  the lurkers out there that we appreciate the people who go to great lengths
  to educate and enlighten us. Thank you..."

 
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[stilletoe1]

Re the wcd, could the proceedings not be published on the net; even here 
on 
this site,and now to change the subject slightly does anyone have any 
information about the possible ways of cleaning and using waste engine oil as 
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[wassaic]

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[Lonny Klinkebiel]

Stephen

I should have given a better explaination.  I have cut the end out of
the barrell.  That is how we filled it with the cow manure straw mix.
We then topped it with water to displace the air.  The 45 gal garbage
bag is fitted to the top of the barrel like a stocking hat and held in
place with two rubber bands made from a tractor inner tube.  My
discharge hose is a piece of plastic tubing taped into the corner of the
bag and capped.  This digester is sitting on three concrete blocks with
a heat lamp under it, the barrel is also wrapped with fiberglass
insulation.

The system has been producing methane for about ten days.  The first
couple of bags of gas were not flamable, probabley mostly co2 as you
said, however for the last ten days it has been making a gas that burns
so I am assuming that it is methane.

The purpose of my experment was to prove to myself if this would work.
As a farmer I have all the resources available to make methane, but I
read an article that 50 to 60 percent of the digesters built were
failures.  So my objective was to keep my expenses as close to zero as
possible.

Since my last post I replaced the bag and added a little water, it is
now making a flamable gas. I usually burn it off in the morning and
evening.

I wish that I would have weighed the barrel of poop, but I would have
had to haul it to town and weighed it at the elavator scales, and I'm
afraid they might have had me committed for that.  lol

Seriously though my goal is to make a trench type digester, but I want
to keep it as simple as possible.  That is why I used such a high ratio
of solids to liquid. I am thinking more along the lines of a batch
filled digester, or maybe making two so that one could be in production
while you cleaned out the other one.  My reasonung for the high solids
would be to have it like a landfill.  I realize that it would need to be
lined and covered but if it will make methane without agitation then the
digester could be just a lined trench.

It will be interesting to see how many more days my barrell will keep
making gas and I am especially interested to see how much and what kind
of sludge is left when it quits.

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[Marty Goshorn]

hi biofuelrs
im  Marty from Ketucky i have a 2005 chevy durmax diesel truck i was 
planning to run b100 in the manual recomends 5% i was wondering if anyone 
new if i needed to change gaskets of somthing to run it dont want to ruin it 
and i have a another question i am doing some contract work a peater Creamer 
they make Biodiesel there and have 275 gallon tote of it would th simple 
water test be good. i dont want to use junk!, by the way i got some barrels 
fome there that contanded white potrol greise how clean dose it need to be 
to use as a storage drum without efiecting the process.

 sorry about the spelling any advice would be greatly appreacated 
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[Tom Irwin]

Hi Mike,

I recall that lightning produces nitric acid when it reacts with atmospheric 
nitrogen. I think overall this is not a very significant production.

Tom Irwin

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[ings . group]

Hello to my fellow brewers from Ontario, Canada:

I just tried pricing MeOH and NaOH from Fisher Scientific (via
Good Health and Safety in Mississauga). MeOH @ $79CAD for 20L
and NaOH @ $267CAD for 5kg both before tax and shipping. That
won't do!  There must be cheaper sources.  I'm near Ottawa.
How do you make it economically viable?  Diesel is running at
about $0.90CAD per litre right now, but at these prices I can
only hope to break even.

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[Rademan, Jacobus]

HI ALL,IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE FLASH POINT OF METHANOL 
DOWN TO THE SAME AS NORMAL PETROL SO THAT I CAN USE IT AS FEUL FOR MY CAR 
THANX 
KOBUS S.A.

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[savvyauto]

I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area that is making 
bio fuel that would be willing to show me the process and equipment used. I 
will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL, if anyone is available.

Thanks,
Hunter


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[Christopher Tan]

Hi to everyone:

 

Anyone in the Philippines interested in about a ton of glycerine cocktail.
Just haul it away and it's yours. I'm in Bulacan.

 

Best,

Chris 

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[TerryWhyton]

hi could anyone tell me if its possible to use biodiesel in a 1993 cummins b5.9 turbo diesel in my rv,the pro,s and cons ,of using the fuel,things to be aware of and any usefull information  terry whyton
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[alex burton]

Hello All 
Thanks for all the advice in the past.
 
After a year of making Biodiesel and not being able to use it i purchased a 1994 Discovery (at the Right price )
I wanted somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so 1994 is it.I have checked for all the normal stuff eg cracked head ,transmission etc and it all seems ok.only some bushes have to be changed and tyres.
 
1.  My question is about the fuel lines (what seems like hard plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. Dose any one know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel system.Is it safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i change??? 
 
(I am slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10% so far )but i dont want to go any higher till i get some advice about the fuel lines etc.I am just cleaning out the system slowly.but dont want to do any damage.
 
2.  Also what is the effect of using a Petrol fuel filter but with a mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving around with a 2nd new landrover  filter incase my filter gets blocked but i havent found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us a Petrol filter.
 
Thanks in advance for any adviceAlex.



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[Garth & Kim Travis]

> WILLIAM MCDONOUGH / ECOLOGICAL GENIUS
>
> It was Einstein who said no problem can be solved by
> the same consciousness that created it ~ and William
> McDonough is attempting to solve our current
> ecological problems by utilizing a new ecological
> consciousness which is already having dramatic
> effects
> throughout the world.
>
> Here's his recent interview with Anne Underwood of
> Newsweek .
>
> Allen L Roland
>
> NEWSWEEK  - ecological architect
> May 16, 2005 issue
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7773650/site/newsweek/
>
> In a new interview series, NEWSWEEK talks to a
> leading
> ecological architect whose goal is nothing less than
> eliminating waste and pollution.
>
> Imagine buildings that generate more energy than
> they
> consume and factories whose waste water is clean
> enough to drink. William McDonough has accomplished
> these tasks and more. Architect, industrial designer
> and founder of McDonough Braungart Design Chemistry
> in
> Charlottesville, Virginia, he's not your traditional
> environmentalist. Others may expend their energy
> fighting for stricter environmental regulations and
> repeating the mantra "reduce, reuse, recycle."
> McDonough's vision for the future includes factories
> so safe they need no regulation, and novel, safe
> materials that can be totally reprocessed into new
> goods, so there's no reason to scale back
> consumption
> (or lose jobs). In short, he wants to overhaul the
> Industrial Revolution -- which would sound crazy if
> he
> weren't working with Fortune 500 companies and the
> government of China to make it happen. The recipient
> of two U.S. presidential honors and the National
> Design Award, McDonough is the former dean of
> architecture at the University of Virginia and
> co-chair of the China-U.S. Center for Sustainable
> Development. He spoke in New York recently with
> NEWSWEEK's Anne Underwood.
>
> UNDERWOOD: Why do we need a new industrial
> revolution?
>
> MCDONOUGH: The Industrial Revolution as a whole was
> not designed. It took shape gradually as
> industrialists and engineers figured out how to make
> things. The result is that we put billions of pounds
> of toxic materials in the air, water and soil every
> year and generate gigantic amounts of waste. If our
> goal is to destroy the world -- to produce global
> warming and toxicity and endocrine disruption --
> we're
> doing great. But if the goal isn't global warming,
> what is it? I want to crank the wheel of industry in
> a
> different direction to produce a world of abundance
> and good design -- a delightful, safe world that our
> children can play in.
>
> You say that recycling, as it's currently practiced,
> is "downcycling."
> What we call recycling is typically the product
> losing
> its quality. Paper gets mixed with other papers,
> re-chlorinated and contaminated with toxic inks. The
> fiber length gets shorter, allowing more particles
> to
> abrade into the air, where they get into your lungs
> and nasal passages, and cause irritation. And you
> end
> up with gray, fuzzy stuff that doesn't really work
> for
> you. That's downcycling.
>
> [My mentor and colleague] Michael Braungart and I
> coined the term upcycling, meaning that the product
> could actually get better as it comes through the
> system. For example, some plastic bottles contain
> the
> resi-dues of heavy-metal catalysts. We can remove
> those residues as the bottles come back to be
> upcycled.
>
> Not all products lend themselves to that.
> Most manufacturers take resources out of the ground
> and convert them to products that are designed to be
> thrown away or incinerated within months. We call
> these "cradle to grave" product flows. Our answer to
> that is "cradle to cradle" design. Everything is
> reused -- either returned to the soil as nontoxic
> "biological nutrients" that will biodegrade safely,
> or
> returned to industry as "technical nutrients" that
> can
> be infinitely recycled. Aluminum is a technical
> nutrient. It takes tremendous energy to make, but
> it's
> easy to recapture and reuse. Since 1880, the human
> species has made 660 million tons of it. We still
> know
> where 440 million tons are today.
>
> Are there products already that meet
> cradle-to-cradle
> goals? If so, how do we find them?
> Within the month, we will be branding cradle to
> cradle. Products that meet our criteria for
> biological
> and technical nutrients can be certified to use our
> logo. A note on the packaging will tell you how to
> recycle it. You'll know: this one goes into my
> tomato
> plot when I'm finished or this one goes back to
> industry forever. We have already approved a nylon,
> some polyester textiles, running tracks, window
> shades, chairs from Herman Miller and Steelcase, and
> carpets from Shaw, which is part of Berkshire
> Hathaway. The first was a Steelcase fabric that can
> go
> back to the soil. We're now working on electronics
> on
> a global scale.
>
> How do paper products like magazines fit in

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[sspence]

VW Beetle, Jeep Liberty CRD

= = = Original message = = =

As a new reader of the list and new to the biofuel concept, are there any 
specific things I need to be aware of in looking at a car to run the biodiesel? 

The only current production diesel available in the states, that I have found 
is the one by VW that is used in the Jetta and the Golf. Are there others?  I 
do not have a problem with buying older models either.  Any particular make or 
model that seems to have the least amount of issues using the biodiesel?  I am 
new to diesels as well.

I will start reading the archives, but I would like to get some of these 
answers to start me looking in the right direction for a car.

Thanks in advance.


Boliver Allmon

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> As a new reader of the list and new to the biofuel concept, are there any
specific things I need to be aware of in looking at a car to run the
biodiesel?

Do yourself a favour, locate a older Mercedes; 1980's 240D or 300D (turbo)
and upgrade it. Or, if you have the bucks try out the 1995 E300D Mercedes,
reputed to be one of the better engines for BD along with the other
aforementined.
My 240D (1983) runs like new on B100. It just loves the stuff and I am more
than happy to give it a steady diet :)


Luc

>
> The only current production diesel available in the states, that I have
found is the one by VW that is used in the Jetta and the Golf. Are there
others?  I do not have a problem with buying older models either.  Any
particular make or model that seems to have the least amount of issues using
the biodiesel?  I am new to diesels as well.
>
> I will start reading the archives, but I would like to get some of these
answers to start me looking in the right direction for a car.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Boliver Allmon
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[gustl]

Hallo Michael,

I am referring specifically to fundamentalist,
dispensationalist, literalist, apocalyptic Christianity as
it is applied by the neocons to the political situation in
the world today.  

It is not so much that it is incomprehensible and
unobtainable but more like the foundation on which the
building is built.  Unless you look at more than just the
outside and inside of the building, unless you dig you
never much think of the foundation.  It is there but isn't
given much consideration because folks are looking at the
facade and trappings and how the building is used.  Out of
sight out of mind.  

This entire middle east situation is based on religious
radicalism and fundamentalism of the worst sort and not
just the radicalism and fundamentalism of the Muslim world,
but that of the Israeli's and the U.S.  The information is
there for the finding but one has to get beyond the
rhetoric and study the religious and political philosophies
of the players in the U.S. and Israel to get to the roots
of the matter.  It is neither simple nor easy.  Good luck
if you are interested in pursuing this and get real
familiar with your bible because it is all in there.  

Most Christians have no idea what these people uphold and
what they are willing to do.  They just see and identify
with the "Christian" bit and think that they all have the
same basic beliefs.  They couldn't be more wrong.

Hope this helps.

Happy Happy,

Gustl


On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:48:34 -0500
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you mean specifically? Why only reference
> Christianity? What is the secret that nobody seems to be
> able to spell out?
> 
> If the truth is so incomprehensible and unobtainable how
> can anyone be expected to know it when they find it?
> 
> 
> Michael M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Better start thinking neocons and giving biblical
> prophecy
> a helping hand.  A lot more there than meets the eye.
>  Nasty business.  Takes some digging and some
> understanding
> of fundamental Christianity.  Rational to them but very,
> very scary.
> 
> Happy Happy,
> 
> Gustl
> 
> 
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:28:13 -0500
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Darryl wrote:
> > 
> > "Clearly, "taking out Saddam" had nothing to do with
> > weapons of mass destruction 
> > (the U.N. inspectors had all but proven he had none
> > before the U.S. found the 
> > courage to invade), or 9/11 (the plans were in play in
> > the U.S. Administration 
> > *before* the planes hit the towers).  It was not about
> > getting the oil, as it 
> > was 
> > available for sale on the world market prior to the
> > invasion.  It wasn't about 
> > Iraq 
> > as a military threat in the region - the U.S. and U.K.
> > were flying military and 
> > surveillance over the country *daily* prior to the
> > invasion.  It wasn't about 
> > Al-
> > Qaeda - they despised Saddam.  Hussein did not attack
> or
> > threaten the U.S.
> > 
> > So, Henri, in your opinion, why had the Bush White
> House
> > really decided to 
> > invade 
> > Iraq - prior to 9/11?"
> > 
> > 
> > Could it be because the UN sanctions were failing and
> > about to be lifted? The US was not about to allow the
> > Saddam administration to get $10+ Billion in oil
> revenue
> > each year knowing they would use it to resume their
> > weapons programs. 
> > 
> > No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction yet,
> > but they did have the know how and planned to build
> them
> > ASAP once the sanctions were lifted.
> > 
> > Mike
> 
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[Brian]

I am in Anderson.  The maps don't show it, but if you're coming from Chicago 
you can get off of 65 at State Road 47 (exit #146, I believe) and come 
across to Anderson.  The road changes names three or four times, but 
eventually becomes 8th Street in Anderson, and I am about 3 blocks off 8th. 
When I go to Chicago, it takes a little over 2 hours to get to the south 
suburbs.  Merrillville is 107 miles up 65, and it's about 45 minutes across 
47.


BRIAN THOMAS
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Subject: [Biofuel] Free to good home:  Methanol


Dear brian ,

Im in a suburb of chicago and am intersted in your methanol drum. If you
could post what city you live in so i can calculate the mileage from where 
i
live. I woulndt mind driving a bit to pick it up but only with some 
reason.

Thanks

Theo Chadzichristos



I still have a virtually untapped drum of methanol in Indiana, and will 
be
moving to California in less than two weeks.  I'm not going to want to 
try

transporting it across country, and I do want to see it go to someone who
will use it.  If anyone wants it, let me know.  I'm in central Indiana,
about 35 miles north of Indianapolis.

Brian


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[Legal Eagle]

Luc
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Theo,

I am in Anderson.  The maps don't show it, but if you're coming from 
Chicago you can get off of 65 at State Road 47 (exit #146, I believe) and 
come across to Anderson.  The road changes names three or four times, but 
eventually becomes 8th Street in Anderson, and I am about 3 blocks off 
8th. When I go to Chicago, it takes a little over 2 hours to get to the 
south suburbs.  Merrillville is 107 miles up 65, and it's about 45 minutes 
across 47.


BRIAN THOMAS
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Subject: [Biofuel] Free to good home:  Methanol


Dear brian ,

Im in a suburb of chicago and am intersted in your methanol drum. If you
could post what city you live in so i can calculate the mileage from 
where i
live. I woulndt mind driving a bit to pick it up but only with some 
reason.

Thanks

Theo Chadzichristos



I still have a virtually untapped drum of methanol in Indiana, and will 
be
moving to California in less than two weeks.  I'm not going to want to 
try
transporting it across country, and I do want to see it go to someone 
who

will use it.  If anyone wants it, let me know.  I'm in central Indiana,
about 35 miles north of Indianapolis.

Brian


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[Brian]

as it once was.  There is still some amount of activity on the west side of 
town, but not sure if it's Burlington Northern.


Brian

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Doesn't Burlington Northern Trucking have a huge terminal in Anderson ?
Luc
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Theo,

I am in Anderson.  The maps don't show it, but if you're coming from 
Chicago you can get off of 65 at State Road 47 (exit #146, I believe) and 
come across to Anderson.  The road changes names three or four times, but 
eventually becomes 8th Street in Anderson, and I am about 3 blocks off 
8th. When I go to Chicago, it takes a little over 2 hours to get to the 
south suburbs.  Merrillville is 107 miles up 65, and it's about 45 
minutes across 47.


BRIAN THOMAS
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Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)




Subject: [Biofuel] Free to good home:  Methanol


Dear brian ,

Im in a suburb of chicago and am intersted in your methanol drum. If you
could post what city you live in so i can calculate the mileage from 
where i
live. I woulndt mind driving a bit to pick it up but only with some 
reason.

Thanks

Theo Chadzichristos



I still have a virtually untapped drum of methanol in Indiana, and will 
be
moving to California in less than two weeks.  I'm not going to want to 
try
transporting it across country, and I do want to see it go to someone 
who

will use it.  If anyone wants it, let me know.  I'm in central Indiana,
about 35 miles north of Indianapolis.

Brian


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[desertstallion]

Hi 
Wasn't the big magnesium fire in the same Anderson where you live?
Derek

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> They might.  Most of the industry here is gone, so it is probably not as big 
> as it once was.  There is still some amount of activity on the west side of 
> town, but not sure if it's Burlington Northern.
> 
> Brian
> 
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Hi
Wasn't the big magnesium fire in the same Anderson where you live?
Derek
Yes, it was.  It was quite a site from a distance.  Of course, we didn't 
venture any closer.  That stuff is pretty toxic.


Brian

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[Legal Eagle]

It would stand up if that were it's ONLY application however it is not.
Hand Symbol Thing:
1)Just to confuse the subject even further, the hand sign with the thumb 
held over the middle fingers is also the Buddhist Tarjani Mudra, a hand 
gesture to ward off evil.

http://www.edepot.com/budmudra.html
Source:http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/letters/
2)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/210105nothookem.htm
Luc
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Greetings,
I just had to share this.
Bright Blessings,
Kim


OSLO, Norway There appears to be somewhat of a cultural divide
between Texans and Norwegians.

Residents of the Scandinavian country were taken aback when they saw the 
First Family appear to salute Satan during the inaugural parade

yesterday.

The president and his family were seen raising their right hands and 
extending their index and pinky fingers.


Where Bush is from, that's recognized as a salute to the University
of Texas Longhorns. Fans make the sign and shout "Hook 'em, horns!"
during athletic events.

But overseas, that same gesture is seen as a sign of the devil. And
in Norway the salute is popular among death metal and black metal
groups and fans.

<http://www.ktre.com/Global/story.asp?S=2839285>http://www.ktre.com/Global/story.asp?S=2839285


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[DAVID REID]

Jonathan,
 Commonly called caustic soda. Also known in the States as
Draino (brandname). Available from any good hardware store or chemical
supply house.
B.r., David

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>Where do you get a small amount of sodium hydroxide from
>Is it the same as baking soda or something / has it got an alternative
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[sspence]

not sure what "dripping" is, but tallow and lard can be used.

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> Hi lists
> Its Jonathan still looking at alternative fuels.
> A bloke from Atlantic Energy has just told me that dripping has to be
> landfilled in the UK.
> Does anyone know if it can be turned into biodiesel or can it be heated to
> use in an engine with elsbetts technology.
> Maybe lard and tallow would work aswell.
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it's lye. not baking soda.

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> Where do you get a small amount of sodium hydroxide from
> Is it the same as baking soda or something / has it got an alternative
name.
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[ianwade]

If you use tallow and lard does the resultant mixture become liquid.
Also Stephen I may have posted something in error about elsbetts technology.  
I didnt think they used heat but their website says they can use any fat.  If 
its solid they must use heat i would guess.
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[ianwade]

Another question guys now I know what to use as a catalyst where can I easily 
get methanol.  Is it the same as methylated spirit.
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[sspence]

tallow and lard have to be heated in order to react with the lye and
methanol, the esters produced are liquid.


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> If you use tallow and lard does the resultant mixture become liquid.
> Also Stephen I may have posted something in error about elsbetts
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> I didnt think they used heat but their website says they can use any fat.
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> its solid they must use heat i would guess.
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[ianwade]

Thanks Steve
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RE: [biofuel] (no subject)

[Doug Allbright]

You might take a look at this page for information on Oils and esters 
characteristics. It gives the different melting points of various oils

http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html


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Dear Keith
I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin, 
crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than 
15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of 
the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear 
liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or 
suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the 
locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the 
ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
Regards
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Re: [biofuel] (no subject)

[Domenick V. Amato]

You might consider one of the wax crystal inhibitors used as an additive for
diesel fuel.  It doesn't take much but they drop the "wax point" of diesel
fuels.  It should work for these fuels.

Dom Amato

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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: [biofuel] (no subject)


> Dear Keith
> I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
> crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
> 15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of
> the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
> liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or
> suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the
> locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the
> ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
> Regards
> Gumpon
>
>
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[filip.ponsaerts]

Dear Dom Amato,

Can you elaborate somewhat more on this.
I've already seen several research papers stating that the 'normal' available 
additives for dino-diesel do little or nothing for Biodiesel. On the other 
hand, there are a few commercial products available which claim to to the 
thing for BioD.

I'm making my BioD based on animal fat (WVO), so I only can use a mixture of 
dino and BIO-Diesel to get the needed lower gelpoint.
So I would very much be intrested in any solution to lower the gelpoint 
without dino-diesel, prefferably in a reliable, cheap and... homemade(?) way.

Thnks,
Filip

>= Original Message From biofuel@yahoogroups.com =
>You might consider one of the wax crystal inhibitors used as an additive for
>diesel fuel.  It doesn't take much but they drop the "wax point" of diesel
>fuels.  It should work for these fuels.
>
>Dom Amato
>
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>From: "gumpon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:15 PM
>Subject: [biofuel] (no subject)
>
>
>> Dear Keith
>> I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
>> crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
>> 15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of
>> the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
>> liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or
>> suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the
>> locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the
>> ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
>> Regards
>> Gumpon
>>
>>
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Re: [biofuel] (no subject)

[Domenick V. Amato]

Attached below are some things to look at from my hard drive.  If you do a
google search  using "wax inhibitors diesel", you will find a great deal of
information.

Dom Amato













 IRG1, February 27 at 4PM, MRL Room 2053, Professor Jeffrey L. Hutter
  Department of Physics and Astronomy,
  University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada
  "Control of Crystallization by Kinetic Inhibitors"
  Kinetic inhibitors are additives that affect crystallization kinetics
by adsorbing to the surfaces of growing crystals, without altering
thermodynamic properties such as the melting point. In addition to slowing
the overall rate of crystallization, inhibitors that bond preferentially to
specific crystal faces are able to control crystal morphology. Since they
act at the surface of the crystal, apparently by blocking step flow,
inhibitors are effective at exceedingly small concentrations - their effect
has been measured at mole fractions as low as 10-9. This opportunity to
control crystallization rates and crystal morphology has led to the
development of "tailor-made" additives for many systems of commercial
interest. For instance, the petroleum industry uses polymeric additives to
prevent the formation of gas-hydrates in pipelines and to prevent
precipitation of wax from diesel fuels. We are studying such additives in
model n-alkane systems. We find that the presence of the polymer
dramatically alters the growth morphology of the wax: rather than the usual
plate-like growth, we see forms with all of the attributes of spherulites
typical of bulk polymer growth. Since models for spherulitic growth
postulate lamellar alignment by entropic pressure due to dangling polymer
chains, the surface-adsorbed polymers are likely responsible for the similar
alignment in wax spherulites. Under certain conditions, we see oscillatory
growth resulting in well-defined bands. We are modeling this effect as a
coupling between the wax diffusion field and the dynamics of additive
adsorption.



http://www.mrl.ucsb.edu/mrl/events/seminars/show_seminar.php?key=1014854400Hutter
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] (no subject)


> Dear Dom Amato,
>
> Can you elaborate somewhat more on this.
> I've already seen several research papers stating that the 'normal'
available
> additives for dino-diesel do little or nothing for Biodiesel. On the other
> hand, there are a few commercial products available which claim to to the
> thing for BioD.
>
> I'm making my BioD based on animal fat (WVO), so I only can use a mixture
of
> dino and BIO-Diesel to get the needed lower gelpoint.
> So I would very much be intrested in any solution to lower the gelpoint
> without dino-diesel, prefferably in a reliable, cheap and... homemade(?)
way.
>
> Thnks,
> Filip
>
> >= Original Message From biofuel@yahoogroups.com =
> >You might consider one of the wax crystal inhibitors used as an additive
for
> >diesel fuel.  It doesn't take much but they drop the "wax point" of
diesel
> >fuels.  It should work for these fuels.
> >
> >Dom Amato
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "gumpon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:15 PM
> >Subject: [biofuel] (no subject)
> >
> >
> >> Dear Keith
> >> I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
> >> crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
> >> 15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some
of
> >> the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
> >> liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or
> >> suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the
> >> locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the
> >> ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
> >> Regards
> >> Gumpon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[Keith Addison]

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>  "This is one of my rare postings to this list, I believe that I speak for
>all
>  the lurkers out there that we appreciate the people who go to great lengths
>  to educate and enlighten us. Thank you..."
>
>
>I second that
>
>erik

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please do so, but you certainly aren't obliged to contribute. If you 
take us up on it and start making biofuels, that's a great 
contribution, but you aren't obliged to do that either. Nor anything.

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[Curtis Sakima]

Not in a financial position to start manufaturing it
... though I'd take on anyone willing to invite me
over to his home an watch him make it.  It sounds like
a cool thing to watch... if not make for oneself.

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Re: [biofuel] (no subject)

[David Teal]

A few books on the subject of biogas:

"A Chinese Biogas Manual" ed. Ariane van Buren
Uses diagrams and pictures to shiow how the basic design of the biogas pit
can be adapted for construction in different soils, from sandstone to sheer
rock, which should encourage developing countries to embark on their own
biogas programmes.
ISBN 0 90303 165 5

"Running a biogas programme: A handbook" by David Fulford (one of my ex
tutors)
Describes the designs and uses of biogas plants, with technical appendices,
for domestic and community plants.  Likely economic and social effects of
biogas programmes are described from experience, and advice given in the
problems of management.
ISBN 0 94668 849 4

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Re: [biofuel] (no subject)

[Juan C. Bobeda]

Lonny,

You can find a manual on how to build a low cost polyethylene biogas plant at
the following address:
http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ibs/info/ecuador/install-polydig.htm

You can find another manual for a polyethylene tubular biodigester here:
http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/FAOINFO/AGRICULT/AGA/AGAP/FRG/Recycle/biodig/manual.htm

Please keep us posted on how long you keep getting flamable gas.

Juan C. Bobeda

Lonny Klinkebiel wrote:

> Stephen
>
> I should have given a better explaination.  I have cut the end out of
> the barrell.  That is how we filled it with the cow manure straw mix.
> We then topped it with water to displace the air.  The 45 gal garbage
> bag is fitted to the top of the barrel like a stocking hat and held in
> place with two rubber bands made from a tractor inner tube.  My
> discharge hose is a piece of plastic tubing taped into the corner of the
> bag and capped.  This digester is sitting on three concrete blocks with
> a heat lamp under it, the barrel is also wrapped with fiberglass
> insulation.
>
> The system has been producing methane for about ten days.  The first
> couple of bags of gas were not flamable, probabley mostly co2 as you
> said, however for the last ten days it has been making a gas that burns
> so I am assuming that it is methane.
>
> The purpose of my experment was to prove to myself if this would work.
> As a farmer I have all the resources available to make methane, but I
> read an article that 50 to 60 percent of the digesters built were
> failures.  So my objective was to keep my expenses as close to zero as
> possible.
>
> Since my last post I replaced the bag and added a little water, it is
> now making a flamable gas. I usually burn it off in the morning and
> evening.
>
> I wish that I would have weighed the barrel of poop, but I would have
> had to haul it to town and weighed it at the elavator scales, and I'm
> afraid they might have had me committed for that.  lol
>
> Seriously though my goal is to make a trench type digester, but I want
> to keep it as simple as possible.  That is why I used such a high ratio
> of solids to liquid. I am thinking more along the lines of a batch
> filled digester, or maybe making two so that one could be in production
> while you cleaned out the other one.  My reasonung for the high solids
> would be to have it like a landfill.  I realize that it would need to be
> lined and covered but if it will make methane without agitation then the
> digester could be just a lined trench.
>
> It will be interesting to see how many more days my barrell will keep
> making gas and I am especially interested to see how much and what kind
> of sludge is left when it quits.
>
> Lonny
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> A few books on the subject of biogas:
>
> "A Chinese Biogas Manual" ed. Ariane van Buren
> Uses diagrams and pictures to shiow how the basic design of the biogas pit
> can be adapted for construction in different soils, from sandstone to
sheer
> rock, which should encourage developing countries to embark on their own
> biogas programmes.
> ISBN 0 90303 165 5
>
> "Running a biogas programme: A handbook" by David Fulford (one of my ex
> tutors)
> Describes the designs and uses of biogas plants, with technical
appendices,
> for domestic and community plants.  Likely economic and social effects of
> biogas programmes are described from experience, and advice given in the
> problems of management.
> ISBN 0 94668 849 4
>
> These and others on the same subject can be ordered through:
> http://www.itpubs.org.uk
>
> David Teal
>
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Pay attention whether or not 
using B100 will avoid the truck's warranty.
 
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  hi biofuelrsim  Marty from Ketucky i have a 2005 chevy 
  durmax diesel truck i was planning to run b100 in the manual recomends 5% 
  i was wondering if anyone new if i needed to change gaskets of somthing to 
  run it dont want to ruin it and i have a another question i am doing some 
  contract work a peater Creamer they make Biodiesel there and have 275 
  gallon tote of it would th simple water test be good. i dont want to use 
  junk!, by the way i got some barrels fome there that contanded white 
  potrol greise how clean dose it need to be to use as a storage drum 
  without efiecting the 
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Keith

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[Quimica Nova SA]

Mario,
I suggest you to study this subject thru the many books and conferences as 
for example from:

http://www.pyne.co.uk/

Last meeting where we were present was the 14th. European Conference on 
Biomass for Energy, Industry and the Environment in Paris, last October.
Look for it also in the web.

In our case we are continously working, studying and participating in said 
events since 1997.

Up to the present we have constructed, and have in operation, a pyrolysis 
plant, and more recently a biomass gasification plant, from which we obtain
the fuel gas to heat the pyrolysis reactor.

In effect there is a lot of information in the web. You have to study it, 
select the most important, then you have to study it in more detail, analyze 
the chemistry which is involved, the thermodynamics, the economics, etc. Yes
you have to spend a lot of time, a lot of money. That is business. Even 
water distillation has details and difficulties to overcome if you want to 
fill 1,000 five liters plastic bottles to be sold for truck radiators.
Imagine the complex structure of wood. I insist: study.

Best regards,

Marcelino

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:16 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] pyrolysis and gassification


> Hi.
>
> as told you some days ago, I need ,for my study ,some detailed
> informations
> about pyrolysis and gassification, such as details on what comes out in
> function on what I put in, chemichal characteristics of inputs , links to
> publications about these 2 processes .
> Can someone help me?The web is full of stuff, but only words and nothing
> concrete...
> thanks a lot,
>
> Mario

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)


> Hi all,
>
> My name is Mario Di Giulio and i'm a newbye in this mailing list.
> I'm a mechanical engineering student at the University of Trieste.
> I'm finishing my studies and I'm starting to work on a project called STE
> (xsiccation pyrolysis and gassification).
> After collecting bibliography I'm supposed work on energy and mass 
> balances
> upon the pyrolysis and gassification processes.
> I hope to find good material here, and I please you to help me.
> I'll start to search in this mailing list archive if there is something
> useful for my study ,
> and I ask you if you have some advices on where else to find bybliography.
>
> Thanks all , see you soon   :)
>
> Mario
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Mariodg77]

Thanks a lot, 

at least someone that answers me :)







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Data: 29/11/05 12:47

> 
> 
> Mario,
> I suggest you to study this subject thru the many books and conferences as

> for example from:
> 
> http://www.pyne.co.uk/
> 
> Last meeting where we were present was the 14th. European Conference on 
> Biomass for Energy, Industry and the Environment in Paris, last October.
> Look for it also in the web.
> 
> In our case we are continously working, studying and participating in said

> events since 1997.
> 
> Up to the present we have constructed, and have in operation, a pyrolysis 
> plant, and more recently a biomass gasification plant, from which we
obtain
> the fuel gas to heat the pyrolysis reactor.
> 
> In effect there is a lot of information in the web. You have to study it, 
> select the most important, then you have to study it in more detail,
analyze 
> the chemistry which is involved, the thermodynamics, the economics, etc.
Yes
> you have to spend a lot of time, a lot of money. That is business. Even 
> water distillation has details and difficulties to overcome if you want to

> fill 1,000 five liters plastic bottles to be sold for truck radiators.
> Imagine the complex structure of wood. I insist: study.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Marcelino
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mariodg77" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:16 AM
> Subject: [Biofuel] pyrolysis and gassification
> 
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > as told you some days ago, I need ,for my study ,some detailed
> > informations
> > about pyrolysis and gassification, such as details on what comes out in
> > function on what I put in, chemichal characteristics of inputs , links
to
> > publications about these 2 processes .
> > Can someone help me?The web is full of stuff, but only words and nothing
> > concrete...
> > thanks a lot,
> >
> > Mario
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mariodg77" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:18 PM
> Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My name is Mario Di Giulio and i'm a newbye in this mailing list.
> > I'm a mechanical engineering student at the University of Trieste.
> > I'm finishing my studies and I'm starting to work on a project called
STE
> > (xsiccation pyrolysis and gassification).
> > After collecting bibliography I'm supposed work on energy and mass 
> > balances
> > upon the pyrolysis and gassification processes.
> > I hope to find good material here, and I please you to help me.
> > I'll start to search in this mailing list archive if there is something
> > useful for my study ,
> > and I ask you if you have some advices on where else to find
bybliography.
> >
> > Thanks all , see you soon   :)
> >
> > Mario
> >
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[ufdaland]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:04:11 -0800 robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
 Who doesn't like freedom?
>
> 
>   I have a problem with people who 

Robert, 
I have a problem with people who insist the 10 commandment be taken down
so they won't feel guilty
I have a problem with people that say abortion isn't murder but the baby
is as dead as if it were.

I have a problem with people who say we are all products of our
environment therefore not responsible for our actions
I have a problem with state governments that finds $ 22.5 million for
fuel assistance programs, much of it taken from those cutting wood for
fuel
I have a problem with people that expect $millions for hot coffee they
spill on themselves when they would also want to sue if it where not hot
enough.
I have a problem with governments that think they can legislate safety
for idiots  so they put so many safety devices on a machine that it's no
longer suitable fot it's designed purpose. 
I have a problem with people who cry crocodile tears for the homeless
while creating more  through confiscatory property taxes 

Seems we have only proved that we have alot of problems
Jerry

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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Appal Energy]

NaOH or KOH from supply houses, inclusive of internet, that serve home 
soapmakers.

NaOH in pound lots at the neighborhood grocery or hardware store.
CH3OH in 55 gallon lots from bulk fuel plants and/or distributors.

Larger bulk propane distributorships use methanol as a solvent for water 
condensate inside the bulk tanks, keeping it mixed with the propane. 
They should be able to point you to their sources.


Automobile track racers use methanol as their prime fuel. They should be 
able to point you in an economically efficient direction


Todd Swearingen


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Hello to my fellow brewers from Ontario, Canada:

I just tried pricing MeOH and NaOH from Fisher Scientific (via
Good Health and Safety in Mississauga). MeOH @ $79CAD for 20L
and NaOH @ $267CAD for 5kg both before tax and shipping. That
won't do!  There must be cheaper sources.  I'm near Ottawa.
How do you make it economically viable?  Diesel is running at
about $0.90CAD per litre right now, but at these prices I can
only hope to break even.

Ray



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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[mark manchester]

Hi Ray,
No answers?  don't despair.  Our dear Darryl must be busy.  He's up near
you.  The lye is not expensive, a Cdn Tire thing, and he told me last year
where to get methanol.  Erg, I'm looking for it in the old letters.
Jesse

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> To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)
> 
> Hello to my fellow brewers from Ontario, Canada:
> 
> I just tried pricing MeOH and NaOH from Fisher Scientific (via
> Good Health and Safety in Mississauga). MeOH @ $79CAD for 20L
> and NaOH @ $267CAD for 5kg both before tax and shipping. That
> won't do!  There must be cheaper sources.  I'm near Ottawa.
> How do you make it economically viable?  Diesel is running at
> about $0.90CAD per litre right now, but at these prices I can
> only hope to break even.
> 
> Ray
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[lendzian_michael]

Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama.

I would be happy to work with you.  I have been making biodiesel for 
almost 3 years now.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers!

Michael Lendzian
CINS Network Support Team
Columbus State University
CINS/Center for Commerce & Technology Room 105
706.569.3044 (help desk)

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Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)

> I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area 
> that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the 
> process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL, 
> if anyone is available.
> 
> Thanks,
> Hunter
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Gary Shenberg]

Hey Michael

Would like some help also if you have the time.  Any advice on the best way 
to get started?

Thanks

Gary





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>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:37:21 -0400
>
>Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama.
>
>I would be happy to work with you.  I have been making biodiesel for
>almost 3 years now.
>
>I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Michael Lendzian
>CINS Network Support Team
>Columbus State University
>CINS/Center for Commerce & Technology Room 105
>706.569.3044 (help desk)
>
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>Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)
>
> > I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area
> > that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the
> > process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL,
> > if anyone is available.
> >
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Scott Yancey]

I'm pretty new here. Hello all:

Question:

1. Is there a requirement to use a red gas can for biofuel (yellow for 
diesel)?

2. How does an apartment dweller create fuel in his or her small space?

Scott

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:47 PM
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> Hey Michael
>
> Would like some help also if you have the time.  Any advice on the best 
> way
> to get started?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
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>>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)
>>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:37:21 -0400
>>
>>Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama.
>>
>>I would be happy to work with you.  I have been making biodiesel for
>>almost 3 years now.
>>
>>I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Michael Lendzian
>>CINS Network Support Team
>>Columbus State University
>>CINS/Center for Commerce & Technology Room 105
>>706.569.3044 (help desk)
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:22 pm
>>Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)
>>
>> > I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area
>> > that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the
>> > process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL,
>> > if anyone is available.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Greg and April]

Use the Yellow can, for BioDiesel.

The reason for the color difference of the can, is so someone will not
mistake it for gasoline ( red ) or kerosene ( blue ).I know, you would
check, but, it doesn't mean someone else will.

Greg H.


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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)


> I'm pretty new here. Hello all:
>
> Question:
>
> 1. Is there a requirement to use a red gas can for biofuel (yellow for
> diesel)?
>
> 2. How does an apartment dweller create fuel in his or her small space?
>
> Scott
>


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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Jerry Turner]

Alex,
 
 I would think you could find a number of 
website forums that deal strictly with the LR.  If you got the owners 
manual it should give you that information.  Check with a LR 
dealership??
 
Good luck,
Jerry
 
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burton 
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)


Hello All 

Thanks for 
all the advice in the past.
 
After a 
year of making Biodiesel and not being able to use it i purchased a 1994 
Discovery (at the Right price )
I wanted 
somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so 1994 is it.I have checked for all 
the normal stuff eg cracked head ,transmission etc and it all seems ok.only some 
bushes have to be changed and tyres.
 
1.  My question is about the fuel lines 
(what seems like hard plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. 
Dose any one know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel 
system.Is it safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i change??? 

 
(I am 
slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10% so far )but i dont want to go any 
higher till i get some advice about the fuel lines etc.I am just cleaning out 
the system slowly.but dont want to do any damage.
 
2.  Also what is the effect of using a 
Petrol fuel filter but with a mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving 
around with a 2nd new landrover  filter incase my filter gets blocked but i 
havent found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us a 
Petrol filter.
 
Thanks in 
advance for any adviceAlex.




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RE: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[malcolm maclure]

Hi Alex, your asking your question in the
right place!

 

I have a ’90 Range Rover Classic that
was converted from 3.9 petrol to 300TDi before I got it, not very well I might
add, & I suspect the previous owner had run it on kero too as the diesel
pump was knackered (clouds of black smoke) I’m in the process of a near
complete rebuild (mechanical & bodywork) Any questions you have, feel free
to ask, I’d be only too glad to help.

 

Land Rover recently issued a recall on vehicles
this age group because of fuel line problems. The factory fitted steel pipes
corroded ending in leaks – the recommendation was to replace all fuel
lines with the white plastic type, I think it’s nylon. I’d changed
mine anyway. To connect the new lines at the tank & the pump you use
neoprene tube & jubilee clips that you will get from a diesel rebuild shop,
& it will have “fuel use” or similar stamped on it, it will be
fine for bioD. I dropped the tank to give it a clean out but it was clean as a
whistle. It sounds like your Discovery has had the lines replaced already, but
to be sure check that the nylon lines run the full length, both ways (mine didn’t
& there were 3 different types of tubing!!), & check the black tubing
used to join the lines at either end – if it were me I would change those
for known fuel rated tubing.

 

As far as filters go, a good place to
start is the diesel rebuild shop, they will be able to advise / supply in line
filters I’m sure. I haven’t installed one as I know my fuel system
is squeaky clean now, & the bio I’ll be putting in will be well
filtered to start with. I don’t think it makes a difference what fuel
type the filter you have used is, as Keith says it’s the screen size that’s’
important.

 

CAUTION – never use silicon sealant on any part of the fuel system – it’s a sure fire way to block your newly
fitted lines.

 

Hope that helps – any questions just
ask.

 

Regards

 

Malcolm

 









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Hello All 

Thanks for all the advice in the past.

 

After a year of making Biodiesel and not being able
to use it i purchased a 1994 Discovery (at the Right price )

I wanted somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so
1994 is it.I have checked for all the normal stuff eg cracked head
,transmission etc and it all seems ok.only some bushes have to be changed and
tyres.

 

1.  My question is about the fuel lines (what seems
like hard plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. Dose any one
know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel system.Is it
safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i change??? 

 

(I am slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10%
so far )but i dont want to go any higher till i get some advice about the fuel
lines etc.I am just cleaning out the system slowly.but dont want to do any
damage.

 

2.  Also what is the effect of using a Petrol
fuel filter but with a mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving
around with a 2nd new landrover  filter incase my filter gets blocked but
i havent found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us a
Petrol filter.

 

Thanks in advance for any advice

Alex.








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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

[Robin Pentney]

I wonder if Dawie knows she is selling drugs?
I should have known better when I saw there was no subject
Robin

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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

[Keith Addison]

Hi Robin

Yes, piracy, Dawie's email address got phished, if that's the word, 
hijacked. Strange, the message reached you and me but it didn't make 
it into the list archives.

>I wonder if Dawie knows she is selling drugs?

Dawie's a he, not a she.

All best

Keith


>I should have known better when I saw there was no subject
>Robin
>
>On 29-Jul-10, at 7:15 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
>
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

[Robin Pentney]

Wups! Thank You, that could have become embarrassing.
I sent that because it likely means his computer is being remotely  
operated without his knowledge, and using his email account. These are  
not people you want messing around in your computer! I thought you  
might want to notify him. He could probably stop it by setting his  
firewall to not allow remote use and economise on the ports available  
etc. I'm no expert, but I have read a few things about it while  
setting up my computer firewalls.
A good thing to put a stop to anyway...
Robin

> Hi Robin
>
> Yes, piracy, Dawie's email address got phished, if that's the word,
> hijacked. Strange, the message reached you and me but it didn't make
> it into the list archives.
>
>> I wonder if Dawie knows she is selling drugs?
>
> Dawie's a he, not a she.
>
> All best
>
> Keith
>
>
>> I should have known better when I saw there was no subject
>> Robin
>>
>> On 29-Jul-10, at 7:15 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
>>
>>> http://alproguncodesbirdkisquiprosunse1756.bettermedsrx.com/?camp=2
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

[Dawie Coetzee]

Robin

Strange thing is, all this happened during two days while my computer was 
switched off and the modem physically disconnected. But Yahoo mail is 
web-based: 
it doesn't matter which computer it's sent from. Perhaps Yahoo themselves can 
help?

Regards

Dawie





From: Robin Pentney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Fri, 30 July, 2010 15:17:19
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

Wups! Thank You, that could have become embarrassing.
I sent that because it likely means his computer is being remotely  
operated without his knowledge, and using his email account. These are  
not people you want messing around in your computer! I thought you  
might want to notify him. He could probably stop it by setting his  
firewall to not allow remote use and economise on the ports available  
etc. I'm no expert, but I have read a few things about it while  
setting up my computer firewalls.
A good thing to put a stop to anyway...
Robin

> Hi Robin
>
> Yes, piracy, Dawie's email address got phished, if that's the word,
> hijacked. Strange, the message reached you and me but it didn't make
> it into the list archives.
>
>> I wonder if Dawie knows she is selling drugs?
>
> Dawie's a he, not a she.
>
> All best
>
> Keith
>
>
>> I should have known better when I saw there was no subject
>> Robin
>>
>> On 29-Jul-10, at 7:15 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
>>
>>> http://alproguncodesbirdkisquiprosunse1756.bettermedsrx.com/?camp=2
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!

[Zeke Yewdall]

For whatever reason, yahoo based emails seem to be more prone to spoofing
than some others.  Though, I have seen a gmail one spoofed once too.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Robin
>
> Strange thing is, all this happened during two days while my computer was
> switched off and the modem physically disconnected. But Yahoo mail is
> web-based:
> it doesn't matter which computer it's sent from. Perhaps Yahoo themselves
> can
> help?
>
> Regards
>
> Dawie
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Robin Pentney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Fri, 30 July, 2010 15:17:19
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Piracy!!!
>
> Wups! Thank You, that could have become embarrassing.
> I sent that because it likely means his computer is being remotely
> operated without his knowledge, and using his email account. These are
> not people you want messing around in your computer! I thought you
> might want to notify him. He could probably stop it by setting his
> firewall to not allow remote use and economise on the ports available
> etc. I'm no expert, but I have read a few things about it while
> setting up my computer firewalls.
> A good thing to put a stop to anyway...
> Robin
>
> > Hi Robin
> >
> > Yes, piracy, Dawie's email address got phished, if that's the word,
> > hijacked. Strange, the message reached you and me but it didn't make
> > it into the list archives.
> >
> >> I wonder if Dawie knows she is selling drugs?
> >
> > Dawie's a he, not a she.
> >
> > All best
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >> I should have known better when I saw there was no subject
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> On 29-Jul-10, at 7:15 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
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Making biodiesel - was Re: [biofuel] (no subject)

[Keith Addison]

>Not in a financial position to start manufaturing it
>... though I'd take on anyone willing to invite me
>over to his home an watch him make it.  It sounds like
>a cool thing to watch... if not make for oneself.
>
>Curtis

Hi Curtis

Financial position? If you drove a diesel you'd be in a financial 
position to start manufacturing it. Say "making it" rather, sounds 
less industrial. (Though "manufacture" means make by hand, literally 
- hey, my Latin's rusty!)

You can set up a 55-gallon processor for about $60 and up, much less 
if you salvage, and the fuel would cost you about 60c a gallon.

So it would make you money, or at least save you money, not cost you 
money. Making it for sale is a different ballgame, but maybe not that 
different, depends how you set about it.

Have a look at this:
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Biodiesel processors

Best

Keith

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LR fuel lines - was Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

[Keith Addison]

Hello Alex


Hello All

Thanks for all the advice in the past.

After a year of making Biodiesel and not being able to use it i 
purchased a 1994 Discovery (at the Right price )


I wanted somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so 1994 is it.I 
have checked for all the normal stuff eg cracked head ,transmission 
etc and it all seems ok.only some bushes have to be changed and 
tyres.


1.  My question is about the fuel lines (what seems like hard 
plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. Dose any 
one know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel 
system.Is it safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i 
change???


The fuel lines and other fuel system parts will be resistant to 
low-sulphur diesel and to biodiesel. You won't have problems, and 
even in the highly unlikely event that you do have problems it won't 
be sudden, you'll have enough warning to avoid a disaster.


Please see this previous message:

"If your BioD is properly made (i.e. a complete reaction) &, more importantly
well washed (typically 3 or 4 washes) I see no reason to fear pump failure
even in early pumps."
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51514.html
RE: [Biofuel] Corolla's Fuel Pump

See also:

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#rubber
Biodiesel and your vehicle
Compatibility:
-- Rubber

(I am slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10% so far )but i 
dont want to go any higher till i get some advice about the fuel 
lines etc.I am just cleaning out the system slowly.but dont want to 
do any damage.


2.  Also what is the effect of using a Petrol fuel filter but with a 
mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving around with a 2nd 
new landrover  filter incase my filter gets blocked but i havent 
found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us 
a Petrol filter.


Safe enough, but how effective it will be depends on how fine it 
filters. Preferably it should be the same screen as your final 
filter. It doesn't have to be a Land Rover filter.


Best wishes

Keith



Thanks in advance for any advice

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Re: palm oil biodiesel in Thailand - was [biofuel] (no subject)

[Keith Addison]

>Dear Keith
>I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
>crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
>15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of
>the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
>liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or
>suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the
>locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the
>ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
>Regards
>Gumpon

Dear Gumpon

Sorry, I haven't been around much the last day or so. I think Ken 
gave you some good advice. What does Michael say, have you asked him?

You surprise me, I didn't know temperatures got that low in Thailand, 
certainly not when I've been there. I seasonal problem? - and should 
it be over soon until next year? Maybe if you can survive the next 
couple of weeks you'll have time to find a good solution. Meanwhile, 
pre-heating? - it sounds like you need something like a really big 
VEG-Therm. See http://www.biofuels.ca/ Or a tank heater. Possible?

Regards

Keith

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Re: palm oil biodiesel in Thailand - was [biofuel] (no subject)

[gumpon]

Keith Addison wrote:

>>Dear Keith
>>   I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
>>crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
>>15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy  ( this might come from  some of
>>the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
>>liquid again when the temperature increases. Do you have any idea or
>>suggestion to solve this problem because we use this ester  to run the
>>locomotive in South of Thailand and this problem occured when the
>>ambient temperature droped especially during the night.
>>Regards
>>Gumpon
>>
>>
>
>Dear Gumpon
>
>Sorry, I haven't been around much the last day or so. I think Ken 
>gave you some good advice. What does Michael say, have you asked him?
>
>You surprise me, I didn't know temperatures got that low in Thailand, 
>certainly not when I've been there. I seasonal problem? - and should 
>it be over soon until next year? Maybe if you can survive the next 
>couple of weeks you'll have time to find a good solution. Meanwhile, 
>pre-heating? - it sounds like you need something like a really big 
>VEG-Therm. See http://www.biofuels.ca/ Or a tank heater. Possible?
>
>Regards
>
>Keith
>
>(Do you have any photographs of the locomotive, Gumpon?)
>Dear Keith
>
Attached is the picture of the locomotive that operated daily from 
Hatyai District (South of Thailand) to Sugaikolok district 
(Thailand-Malaysia border) , the distance is 214 km.
Gumpon

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