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2004-08-23 Thread Brian

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2004-08-20 Thread mark johnson II

is there any bobdy in here who is from indiana? I was wanting to touch base 
with some one for my first prodject.

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2004-08-20 Thread mark johnson II

where  do can you find those immersion heaters.?

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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2004-06-02 Thread Kim & Garth Travis

Or he has been listening to a bunch of Texans. 
Bright Blessings,
Kim [who lives in Texas]

At 09:05 AM 6/2/2004, you wrote:
>If you think Rush Limbaugh is main stream, you need to be adjusted.
>
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 08:01
>Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
>
>
> > I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media.  You feel
> > that he, and all of the posers that have come after him, are aligned
> > with the left?  I'd hate to see where your right is located.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Eric M. Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this.  I would like to
> > remind Todd
> > > and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the
> > news, we
> > > ARE believing what we see and/or read.  Don't forget that the
> > mainstream
> > > media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that
> > we aren't
> > > getting the whole story-unfortunately (and probably still wouldn't
> > get it
> > > if they were aligned with the right).  What I sent was an article
> > forwarded
> > > from another source; it is hard for me believe 100% of what it is
> > saying,
> > > but I feel the same way when I watch the news at night. The real
> > problem is
> > > that we are not getting the whole story.  BUT I am confident about
> > one
> > > thing!  When I go to the pump and fill up my car (28 mpg diesel)
> > and my
> > > motorcycle (42 mpg awesome lookin' Harley Night Train, by the
> > way), I still
> > > can't help but feel that I am funding a terrorist organization.
> > In my
> > > local paper just the other week, a journalist broke down the
> > [local] cost
> > > of gasoline.  A whole $.99 per gallon goes to OPEC, or whomever
> > supplied
> > > the crude oil.  Of course one barrel only produces so much
> > gasoline; the
> > > rest is used for other things.  One dollar per gallon to an
> > untrustworthy
> > > source.  Can we trust the Saudis?  I think not.  My whole point is
> > that
> > > until we stop buying crude from the Arab world, until we become
> > self
> > > sufficient with our fuel, until we put money into our own pockets,
> > we are
> > > at risk of our money being used against us.  If the article were
> > totally
> > > made up from some maniac as crazy as the terrorists themselves,
> > one can't
> > > deny that they [the terrorists] are fanatical and unstable, want
> > the USA
> > > and any other non-muslim group out of their countries, and will
> > continue to
> > > plan to undo us and kill us with smiles on their faces.  When we
> > cut off
> > > their supply of money, they will go broke and we will [hopefully]
> > be a
> > > little safer.  We can all start by getting involved as WE ALL HERE
> > are
> > > doing-educating ourselves on how to make our own cleaner [in more
> > ways than
> > > one] fuel.
> > >
> > > Young Master Joseph
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2004-06-02 Thread RICHARD BOGRAD

If you think Rush Limbaugh is main stream, you need to be adjusted.



- Original Message - 
From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 08:01
Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)


> I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media.  You feel 
> that he, and all of the posers that have come after him, are aligned 
> with the left?  I'd hate to see where your right is located.
> 
> Brian
> 
> --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Eric M. Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this.  I would like to 
> remind Todd 
> > and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the 
> news, we 
> > ARE believing what we see and/or read.  Don't forget that the 
> mainstream 
> > media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that 
> we aren't 
> > getting the whole story-unfortunately (and probably still wouldn't 
> get it 
> > if they were aligned with the right).  What I sent was an article 
> forwarded 
> > from another source; it is hard for me believe 100% of what it is 
> saying, 
> > but I feel the same way when I watch the news at night. The real 
> problem is 
> > that we are not getting the whole story.  BUT I am confident about 
> one 
> > thing!  When I go to the pump and fill up my car (28 mpg diesel) 
> and my 
> > motorcycle (42 mpg awesome lookin' Harley Night Train, by the 
> way), I still 
> > can't help but feel that I am funding a terrorist organization.  
> In my 
> > local paper just the other week, a journalist broke down the 
> [local] cost 
> > of gasoline.  A whole $.99 per gallon goes to OPEC, or whomever 
> supplied 
> > the crude oil.  Of course one barrel only produces so much 
> gasoline; the 
> > rest is used for other things.  One dollar per gallon to an 
> untrustworthy 
> > source.  Can we trust the Saudis?  I think not.  My whole point is 
> that 
> > until we stop buying crude from the Arab world, until we become 
> self 
> > sufficient with our fuel, until we put money into our own pockets, 
> we are 
> > at risk of our money being used against us.  If the article were 
> totally 
> > made up from some maniac as crazy as the terrorists themselves, 
> one can't 
> > deny that they [the terrorists] are fanatical and unstable, want 
> the USA 
> > and any other non-muslim group out of their countries, and will 
> continue to 
> > plan to undo us and kill us with smiles on their faces.  When we 
> cut off 
> > their supply of money, they will go broke and we will [hopefully] 
> be a 
> > little safer.  We can all start by getting involved as WE ALL HERE 
> are 
> > doing-educating ourselves on how to make our own cleaner [in more 
> ways than 
> > one] fuel.
> > 
> > Young Master Joseph
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[biofuel] (unknown)

2004-06-02 Thread Brian

I always thought that Rush Limbaugh was mainstream media.  You feel 
that he, and all of the posers that have come after him, are aligned 
with the left?  I'd hate to see where your right is located.

Brian

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Eric M. Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Woah, I wasn't expecting replies like this.  I would like to 
remind Todd 
> and everyone else that if we watch and believe what we see on the 
news, we 
> ARE believing what we see and/or read.  Don't forget that the 
mainstream 
> media is generally aligned with the left, and I'm confident that 
we aren't 
> getting the whole story-unfortunately (and probably still wouldn't 
get it 
> if they were aligned with the right).  What I sent was an article 
forwarded 
> from another source; it is hard for me believe 100% of what it is 
saying, 
> but I feel the same way when I watch the news at night. The real 
problem is 
> that we are not getting the whole story.  BUT I am confident about 
one 
> thing!  When I go to the pump and fill up my car (28 mpg diesel) 
and my 
> motorcycle (42 mpg awesome lookin' Harley Night Train, by the 
way), I still 
> can't help but feel that I am funding a terrorist organization.  
In my 
> local paper just the other week, a journalist broke down the 
[local] cost 
> of gasoline.  A whole $.99 per gallon goes to OPEC, or whomever 
supplied 
> the crude oil.  Of course one barrel only produces so much 
gasoline; the 
> rest is used for other things.  One dollar per gallon to an 
untrustworthy 
> source.  Can we trust the Saudis?  I think not.  My whole point is 
that 
> until we stop buying crude from the Arab world, until we become 
self 
> sufficient with our fuel, until we put money into our own pockets, 
we are 
> at risk of our money being used against us.  If the article were 
totally 
> made up from some maniac as crazy as the terrorists themselves, 
one can't 
> deny that they [the terrorists] are fanatical and unstable, want 
the USA 
> and any other non-muslim group out of their countries, and will 
continue to 
> plan to undo us and kill us with smiles on their faces.  When we 
cut off 
> their supply of money, they will go broke and we will [hopefully] 
be a 
> little safer.  We can all start by getting involved as WE ALL HERE 
are 
> doing-educating ourselves on how to make our own cleaner [in more 
ways than 
> one] fuel.
> 
> Young Master Joseph




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[biofuel] (unknown)

2004-05-29 Thread choicetrader

 Hi,
 I have some Bio Diesel from a maker of it in the UK and I got some 
for a friend who has tried it in a new Mitsubishi 2.5 turbo  diesel 
pickup and he has found that his vehicle is harder to start when 
running on Bio.
 
also I have a Range Rover TDI diesel and the tick over has dropped 
and the vehicle tends to stall if I stop fast.
But I have tried some in a new Land rover Discovery TD5 but I mixed 
it with Diesel as I did not want to risk 100 percent bio in a new 
vehicle any way the dicovery runs well .
 
I have done a small test 150mm of water and 150mm of bio and put in 
plastic bottle and shake for 10 seconds  then leave to stand after a 
while the water separates but the bio is murky cloudy but I will 
the Bio was not clear when I got it  and I put some in a glass jar 
but can't see thru it it is a dark  murky yellow allmost clear.
can you give me some advise.
thanks
 





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[biofuel] (unknown)

2004-04-28 Thread tazmaniantoo

Art,  To be honest with you, I really don't know what the barrels 
that I have are made of.  I got them at least ten years ago and used 
them for brewing beer and later to transport diesel to my dredge 
in.  They are dark yellow and a good 1/4 to 5/16 thick.  In running 
them I used the two elements simply for one reason, the burned oil.  
If you have two  that operate at a low temp vs one at a high temp, 
the chances of burned oil are reduced.  I guess I should add that I 
have a circulating pump that runs at the same time gently 
circulating the oil from bottom to top.  Anyway, the oil tha I have 
been picking up does not have that much water in it and it is always 
at the bottom and is easily detected and I just simply do not draw 
it up into my transfer barrel.  Hasn't been a problem for me.  
Didn't really mean to stir up a hornets nest

One other thing that I am toying with, is my spa has a inline heater 
that I have replaced three times in the last ten years and its just 
a 45oo watt hot water heater element inside a 3" PVC pipe 18" long.  
the lines feeding and out are 1" and I am toying with making a 
processor using this idea as a heater.  Now I have a 30 gal hot 
water heater and it works well.  I want to go to 300gal batches 
which should give me around 225 finished product ( I meant 300 gal 
tank, using 250 gal wvo).  I am using the bd on my farm in a John 
Deer 4020.  runs good.Jimb




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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2004-04-27 Thread Art Krenzel

Jim,

Polypropylene is rated to a working temperature of 180 degrees F.  
Polyethylene, which is used in most drums today, is rated at 125 degrees F.  It 
appears you may be operating just over the manufacturers working temperature 
and surviving.  I thought you had a polyethylene drum which is more common.

Art
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:11 AM
  Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)


  Art,  I have used these poly tanks for about thew last ten years or 
  better boiling water to cook oats for our race horses.  Now that was 
  to the temp that the water is boiling.  Not one time has the barrel 
  split, broke, spilt or what everthe threaded bulkhead fitting is 
  covered in about a half inch of metal set, which if you have never 
  used, you can actually mill it, drill it tap it, etc. in orther 
  words, its very strong.  I do appreciate you concern on safety, 
  however if you'll talk to the people the make the injected 
  polyprolene (sp?) they will tell you the same. their tanks, barrels 
  are rated to some quite high temps., none of which I even get close 
  to..thanks again for your feed backJimbull




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2004-04-27 Thread tazmaniantoo

Art,  I have used these poly tanks for about thew last ten years or 
better boiling water to cook oats for our race horses.  Now that was 
to the temp that the water is boiling.  Not one time has the barrel 
split, broke, spilt or what everthe threaded bulkhead fitting is 
covered in about a half inch of metal set, which if you have never 
used, you can actually mill it, drill it tap it, etc. in orther 
words, its very strong.  I do appreciate you concern on safety, 
however if you'll talk to the people the make the injected 
polyprolene (sp?) they will tell you the same. their tanks, barrels 
are rated to some quite high temps., none of which I even get close 
to..thanks again for your feed backJimbull




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RE: [biofuel] (unknown)

2004-04-01 Thread Tan

Thanks, Mark. I thought so too. 

Best,
chris

=>-Original Message-
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=>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:53 PM
=>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=>Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
=>
=>
=>I don 't think you can get it for free on the 'net, but it's in an 
=>AOCS-published book on 'testing of fats and oils'. University 
=>libraries might have it (sorry I don 't have the title of the book)
=>
=>mark
=>
=>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=>wrote:
=>> HI! Can anyone point me to the direction where i can download 
=>a copy of the
=>> procedures of "Total, Free and Combined Glycerol 
=>Iodometric-Periodic Acid
=>> Method or AOCA official Ca 14-56". I would sure appreciate it.
=>> 
=>> Thanks,
=>> chris
=>> 
=>> 
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2004-03-31 Thread girl_mark_fire

I don 't think you can get it for free on the 'net, but it's in an 
AOCS-published book on 'testing of fats and oils'. University 
libraries might have it (sorry I don 't have the title of the book)

mark

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wrote:
> HI! Can anyone point me to the direction where i can download 
a copy of the
> procedures of "Total, Free and Combined Glycerol 
Iodometric-Periodic Acid
> Method or AOCA official Ca 14-56". I would sure appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> chris
> 
> 




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2003-11-22 Thread Ghanshyam Patil

Hi 
I am from india and interested in starting my own biofuel unit based on 
jatropha.Can anybody provide the information about the legal aspects and 
production process alongwith persons/companies to be contacted.
Expecting any positive reply

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2003-06-10 Thread rajesh sk

SIr,
 
I need a info on Non edible oil seeds and how to extract oil from nonedible oil 
and what is the application of byproduct Meal ( in non edible oils)
 
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2003-05-15 Thread mehmet duger

Dear friends

I need to learn more detail about ethanol as a fuel
and before began to use ethanol on my car is there any
modification that i do. Ýf there is some instrument
for ethanol use, how and where can i supply that. 

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2003-04-29 Thread Michael Ashton



Greetings everybody.
I have been looking into yurts and so far I like what I see.  They seem to 
be a very low impact housing alternative.  Might anyone have experience 
living in one or have some knowledge that could prove useful?
Thank you.
Peace and flow
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2003-04-10 Thread Andrew Preston

To: British Red Cross

Thank you for your mail. In fact you are very far from being
a non-political, island of neutrality. Just a quick search of
the internet, eg 1998, shows  71% of your budget for international
action as coming from the UK Government Department for International
Development. 

The head of this department, the Secretary of State for International
Development is Clare Short. Members of Parliament had opportunities
to vote for or against the assault on Iraq on...

26th February 2002 Clare Short voted for war.
18th March 2003Clare Short voted for war.

You are very much emmeshed in this business, and I believe very, very
unlikely to bite the hand that feeds you. I'll direct my contributions
elsewhere. 

Andrew Preston


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:20:41 +0100, "supportercare supportercare"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Dear Mr Preston
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to write to us and express your concerns.
> 
> We are a neutral, non-political organisation which does not comment on
> the rights and wrongs of conflict or the outcome. To do so would be to
> take sides and thereby put at risk the ability of the Red Cross to carry
> out its recognised role of providing humanitarian protection and
> assistance to victims on all sides during armed conflicts.  
> 
> It is not our role to make public denouncements, as such public comment
> could compromise the perception of our neutrality.  Any comments the Red
> Cross may have on the conduct of military operations are communicated
> privately to the relevant authorities by the International Committee of
> Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (the ICRC).  This enables the
> British Red Cross and other National Red Cross and Red Crescent societies
> to continue to retain the confidence of all parties to an armed conflict
> and thereby, to continue to provide humanitarian assistance to victims on
> all sides in conflict situations.
> 
> I hope that this explains the position of the Red Cross regarding public
> comment.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Philip Brook
> Supporter Services Department
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Give to the Iraqi crisis appeal at
> www.redcross.org.uk/af/iraqicrisisappeal
> 


>>To: Red Cross, UK
>>
>>Thank you for your email newsletter and your request for a donation
>>towards your work in Iraq.
>>
>>I do try to give from what are currently rather limited means, and
>>for some time have been giving to UNICEF. 
>>
>>I have, however, become increasingly concerned about the way that large
>>international aid organisations, such as yours (?), have become factored
>>into the war goals of US and UK politicians. Killing with one hand, and 
>>promised healing with the other. 
>>
>>From now on I would prefer to give to organisations that are uninfected
>>by their proximity to those who wish to make war. Right now, as for
>>you and others, I'm not sure.
>>
>>On the run up to the Iraqi conflict it was very obvious that the US and
>>UK had chosen to make war and that the involvement of the UN
>>was political theatre. I did not hear too much from international aid 
>>organisation in terms of denouncing either the politicians or the
>>prospect
>>of war.
>>
>>Regards
>>


-- 
Andrew Preston


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:20:41 +0100, "supportercare supportercare"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Dear Mr Preston
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to write to us and express your concerns.
> 
> We are a neutral, non-political organisation which does not comment on
> the rights and wrongs of conflict or the outcome. To do so would be to
> take sides and thereby put at risk the ability of the Red Cross to carry
> out its recognised role of providing humanitarian protection and
> assistance to victims on all sides during armed conflicts.  
> 
> It is not our role to make public denouncements, as such public comment
> could compromise the perception of our neutrality.  Any comments the Red
> Cross may have on the conduct of military operations are communicated
> privately to the relevant authorities by the International Committee of
> Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (the ICRC).  This enables the
> British Red Cross and other National Red Cross and Red Crescent societies
> to continue to retain the confidence of all parties to an armed conflict
> and thereby, to continue to provide humanitarian assistance to victims on
> all sides in conflict situations.
> 
> I hope that this explains the position of the Red Cross regarding public
> comment.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Philip Brook
> Supporter Services Department
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Give to the Iraqi crisis appeal at
> www.redcross.org.uk/af/iraqicrisisappeal
> 


>>To: Red Cross, UK
>>
>>Thank you for your email newsletter and your request for a donation
>>towards your work in Iraq.
>>
>>I do try to give from what are currently rather limited means, and
>>for some time have been giving to UNICEF. 
>>
>>I have, however, become increasingly concerned about the way that large
>>international aid organisations, such as yours (?),

[biofuel] (unknown)

2003-01-29 Thread James Slayden

Hakan,

Just re-reading your article on energy.saving.nu and came across the
paragraph on what ethanol producers are doing to court BigOil.  I believe
that we are already seeing that in the Biodiseel industry.  Take a look at
BlueSun and also SeQuential.  They are prime for some type of buyout
stragety eventually. Since these business are started by MBA's one would
conjecture that it is built in the model.  I do believe that they are
truely interested in moving Biodiesel forward, but I also think they want
that big piece of Oil pie.  It's not that it is a bad thing, ie. it
happens every day in all business practices, it's just not the sustainable
model that we discuss on this list so often.

Maybe I'm wrong, and I hope that I am, but the gravity of potential wealth
is usually too much for most, and even more difficult for a sustainable
business due to the "next hot thing" factor lately.


James Slayden



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2002-12-20 Thread Rick Emery

You can purchase crude bulk soy oil at Bruning Grain and Feed. Freight is 
the only issue. We are geographicaly in the center of the U.S.
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-10-15 Thread William H. Anger, Jr

It's been a long time, but I believe that there is a fuel pump in the fuel
tank, actually a fuel transfer pump.

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2002-10-15 Thread jokefalcon

Howdy All,

I have an '82 Cutlass Supreme 6 cyl. diesel which acts like its not
getting enough  fuel.  It will not  stay running when I start it on
chilly (less than 40 degrees F) mornings.  I have changed the fuel filter
to no avail.  Is there a fuel pump other than the injector pump?  Does
anybody have any ideas what the problem might be?


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2002-08-04 Thread Steve Spence

Subject: Re: [biofuel] WTK: tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary* diesels 
less polluting
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:17:26 -0400
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- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Witmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] WTK: tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary* diesels
less polluting


> Thanks, Todd (and Steve Spence too). I understand the point about
> skipping fossil fuels entirely. What would be the best approach to
> obtaining a good particle trap / catalytic converter solution? Would a
> catalytic converter salvaged from an automobile work? I have seen some
> HUGE catalytic converters for massive diesel gensets, but they cost more
> than I earn in a year (although they were cheap considering the scale at
> which they would be used); other than that I haven't seen any
> aftermarket converters for diesel, and besides, I'd like to do this on a
> shoestring budget . . . they market particle traps for trucks in Japan,
> but they are expen$ive as well . . . much more than I would want to pay.
> If I could get enough heat out of the exhaust, I wonder if a chamber
> equipped with an electrostatic particle arrestor similar to that used in
> certain home air purification systems would work. Or, if I went with a
> filter, would something as coarse as the air filters used on the intake
> side of the engine be any good? Perhaps subjecting the exhaust to a
> bubble wash would be a good way to get the particles out . . . Why isn't
> there an article on how to do this in "Mechanics Illustrated" magazine?
> In any case, I guess the proper order would be 1) get the heat out, 2)
> get the particles out, and 3) get the NOx out -- right?
>
> Keep those suggestions coming!
>
> Gratefully,
>
> Christopher Witmer
> Tokyo
>
> Appal Energy wrote:
>
> > Don't see why, if you are looking for "less polluting," that you
> > would contemplate used fossil fuel products as part of the fuel
> > compliment. Manditorily this would increase PAHs over biodiesel,
> > and introduce the probability of heavy metals in the emissions.
> > As well, if you go to a vegetable oil based lubricating oil
> > ("synthetic"), you reduce almost entirely any PAHs that can come
> > from crankcase oils.
> >
> > Further, the biodiesel is sulfur free, permitting the inclusion
> > of a catalytic converter to reduce NOx, where one couldn't be
> > introduced before. (You mention this below.) Particulate traps
> > can further reduce emissions, a considerably more easily applied
> > technology in situations where there are constant loads, such as
> > gensets.
> >
> > You mention exhaust heat, which can be used to reduce loads
> > elsewhere when complimented with other technologies such as such
> > as indirect heat exchange for space heating, gas absorption
> > cooling or Stirling engines.
> >
> > Personally? Were it me? I'd abandon the idea of used fossil oils
> > as a fuel compliment. Even with a turbocharger, you will not
> > achieve as high an air to fuel ratio as is needed for highly
> > efficient combustion. Best to use these fuels in something along
> > the lines of combustion in a high pressure air stream, as in a
> > boiler or space heat application for which it was designed.
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Christopher Witmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:37 PM
> > Subject: [biofuel] WTK: tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary*
> > diesels less polluting
> >
> >
> >
> >>O Fuelish Ones,
> >>
> >>I am trying to discover ways of making stationary diesels
> >>
> > (e.g.,
> >
> >>permanently installed electrical generator engines) less
> >>
> > polluting, and
> >
> >>I would greatly appreciate any suggestions, ideas, avenues to
> >>
> > pursue and
> >
> >>other tidbits of wisdom that might be useful.
> >>
> >>It stands to reason that there are a lot of things one would
> >>
> > hesitate to
> >
> >>try on an automobile, but which would't present any great
> >>
> > problems for a
> >
> >>diesel engine that was never moved around.
> >>
> >>Some possibilities that occur to me (I'm thinking out loud here
> >>
> > and
> >
> >>would appreciate other ideas as well as comments if any of
> >>
> > those listed
> >
> >>would seem to be unfruitful):
> >>
> >>* Combustion of biofuels (doh!) and (*if* they can be burned
> >>
> > cleanly
> >
> >>enough) waste petroleum based lubricating oils
> >>
> >>* Addition of water at just the right point in the 

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison

I got an ""Auto-reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".

:-(

Anyway, it said this:

5) If your email is concerned with abuse issues then please send an 
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with one of the following specific 
subject headings
 
if you have received unsolicited emails make the subject of your mail 
-   'Spam'

So I'll send my letter again to [EMAIL PROTECTED], subject 'Spam', 
as unsolicited email it surely is.

Keith



>>Don't thank me too much, they sent back an email saying that they 
>>were working
>>on the system and to expect problems with their service - sure, so they can't
>>shut off one guy's email.
>
>That's ridiculous - this message going out over and over again every 
>time someone posts?
>
>I'll mail them too. Would everybody who posts and is having this 
>problem please mail these people?
>
>Send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Here's Martin's message to them, for reference:
>
>Hello,
>I am a member of a discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Many of the members have gotten messages that:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Has a full mailbox and cannot accept any more emails. Could you do 
>something to
>fix this? We would appreciate it, thank you.
>
>Best
>
>Keith
>
>>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Thankyou Martin!
>> >
>> > Keith
>> >
>>
>>
>>=
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2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison

>Don't thank me too much, they sent back an email saying that they were working
>on the system and to expect problems with their service - sure, so they can't
>shut off one guy's email.

That's ridiculous - this message going out over and over again every 
time someone posts?

I'll mail them too. Would everybody who posts and is having this 
problem please mail these people?

Send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here's Martin's message to them, for reference:

Hello,
I am a member of a discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Many of the members have gotten messages that:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Has a full mailbox and cannot accept any more emails. Could you do something to
fix this? We would appreciate it, thank you.

Best

Keith

>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thankyou Martin!
> >
> > Keith
> >
>
>
>=
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2002-05-21 Thread Martin Klingensmith

Don't thank me too much, they sent back an email saying that they were working
on the system and to expect problems with their service - sure, so they can't
shut off one guy's email.

--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thankyou Martin!
> 
> Keith
> 


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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison

Thankyou Martin!

Keith



>Hello,
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>
>
>
>
>=
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy

Martin,

Did the same exercise here. Got a reply directing complaints to
specific departments. Resubmitted to their "virus" department.

We'll see.

Todd Swearingen

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Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)


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>
>
>
>
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2002-05-21 Thread Martin Klingensmith

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[biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-13 Thread motie_d

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of the big three (Ford, Chevy, GMC) which diesel is the one to buy?
> 
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problem.
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 Note that these are all pickups. I don't know much about their cars.

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[biofuel] (unknown)

2001-12-25 Thread Joke Falcon

Does  anyone have  a  good set of plans for converting a vehicle to
hybrid electric inexpensively?

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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-09-18 Thread steve spence

I've had good luck as low as 38F, and mix with kerosene at lower temps.

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> Can  anyone tell me how low of an ambient temp bio diesel is good for
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2001-09-18 Thread Pip J. Patton

Can  anyone tell me how low of an ambient temp bio diesel is good for
using, and what kind of additive is the best for cold weather use?

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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-09-09 Thread martin.brook

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> hello
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2001-09-03 Thread yabz ?

hello
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[biofuel] (unknown)

2001-09-02 Thread agnes boyd

Hi All

I am looking for any info anyone could help me out
with.  I am trying to cost a project, I am looking at
setting up processing for at least 100 acres of
hemp(could be around 300 acres).  I have been told
this will yield about 1000 litres of methanol per
acre, how do I process bio mass to methanol,
distructive distillition I know but could anyone help
me with the process.
I was also wondering if there is anyone in Scotland
interested in talking about a Co Op?  
Any advice anyone has to offer would be greatly
appreciated.

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Re: Biodiesel and 2-strokes = was Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver

 Not sure how you'd figure it -- biodiesel is supposed to give better
lube already, but quite a few people who run diesels are in the habit of
adding 2-cycle oil to their dinodiesel for extra lube. Or one of the more
expensive commercial fuel additives.


Keith Addison wrote:

> "Pip J. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Do you  know how much biodiesel will take  the  place of  2 cycle oil?
>
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Re: Biodiesel in gasoline engines Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver

 Looking at the parts book for my tractor, I see there's only three
parts different. The tank, of course, and the carb (although only
difference in the carb are the jets) and a hotter spark plug.


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Biodiesel in gasoline engines Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison

Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This isn't such a far-fetched idea. Quite a few tractors and other
>machines were designed to run on kerosene. My BCS garden tractor, for
>instance, has the exact same engine, except for carb and tank, as their
>kerosene model. The way it's done is that the tank has two compartments -- a
>small one for gasoline, the rest for kerosene. You start up on gasoline --
>and, I assume, shut down on gas as well. Once the engine is warmed up, flip
>the lever on the tank outlet to the kerosene side.
>This is the same procedure for running SVO in a diesel. Be interesting
>to see how straight biodiesel would work. I'm sure you could run straight bd
>in your 2-cycle engine if you started and shutdown with gas. You also
>probably need to change the jets --- I'm sure that's the only difference
>there is in the carbs.

Hi Harmon, Pip

I've heard of Third World mechanics rigging engines that way. Small 
tank or container for the start-up petrol (gasoline), with a switch 
between that and the main supply, then they wind a copper fuel lead 
for the kero round the exhaust manifold to warm it up, and that's 
that - cheapo fuel. I'm sure they've got it well-figured though, it 
sounds like there could be right ways and also very wrong ways of 
doing that.

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>"Pip J. Patton" wrote:
>
> > I was  more  worried about lubrication  than  cumbustion.
> > I tried about 6 or 7  cups of biodiesel mixed  with about 2 gallons  of 2
> >  cycle gasoline.
> > It works,  but starts harder.  Seems to have more power.  So far the
> > pistons haven't frozen in the cylinders. ;-)
> > Unfortunately, the spark  plugs are fouling  up.  So I'll probably
> > discontinue this experiment.  Thanks  for your input though.
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:38:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > > I think that would be a very bad learning experience. A diesel
> > > engine fires
> > > from compression, a gasoline engine, even a two cycle one fires from
> > > spark
> > > plug ignition.


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Biodiesel and 2-strokes = was Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison

"Pip J. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Do you  know how much biodiesel will take  the  place of  2 cycle oil?

I'd also like to know that.

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> > That's right. It is Ok to use certain vegetable oil products and veg
> > oil/biodiesel blends for the two stroke lube, to replace the oil,
> > and the
> > lubricity is going to be better in that case. However, biodiesel as
> > fuel is
> > not a replacement for gasoline.
> >
> > Ed B.
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver

This isn't such a far-fetched idea. Quite a few tractors and other
machines were designed to run on kerosene. My BCS garden tractor, for
instance, has the exact same engine, except for carb and tank, as their
kerosene model. The way it's done is that the tank has two compartments -- a
small one for gasoline, the rest for kerosene. You start up on gasoline --
and, I assume, shut down on gas as well. Once the engine is warmed up, flip
the lever on the tank outlet to the kerosene side.
This is the same procedure for running SVO in a diesel. Be interesting
to see how straight biodiesel would work. I'm sure you could run straight bd
in your 2-cycle engine if you started and shutdown with gas. You also
probably need to change the jets --- I'm sure that's the only difference
there is in the carbs.

"Pip J. Patton" wrote:

> I was  more  worried about lubrication  than  cumbustion.
> I tried about 6 or 7  cups of biodiesel mixed  with about 2 gallons  of 2
>  cycle gasoline.
> It works,  but starts harder.  Seems to have more power.  So far the
> pistons haven't frozen in the cylinders. ;-)
> Unfortunately, the spark  plugs are fouling  up.  So I'll probably
> discontinue this experiment.  Thanks  for your input though.
>
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:38:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I think that would be a very bad learning experience. A diesel
> > engine fires
> > from compression, a gasoline engine, even a two cycle one fires from
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Pip J. Patton

Do you  know how much biodiesel will take  the  place of  2 cycle oil?

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:00:19 -0700 "Edward Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> That's right. It is Ok to use certain vegetable oil products and veg
> oil/biodiesel blends for the two stroke lube, to replace the oil, 
> and the
> lubricity is going to be better in that case. However, biodiesel as 
> fuel is
> not a replacement for gasoline.
> 
> Ed B.
> www.biofuels.ca
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
> 
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> >
> > I think that would be a very bad learning experience. A diesel 
> engine
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Pip J. Patton

I was  more  worried about lubrication  than  cumbustion.
I tried about 6 or 7  cups of biodiesel mixed  with about 2 gallons  of 2
 cycle gasoline.  
It works,  but starts harder.  Seems to have more power.  So far the 
pistons haven't frozen in the cylinders. ;-)
Unfortunately, the spark  plugs are fouling  up.  So I'll probably
discontinue this experiment.  Thanks  for your input though.

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> engine fires
> from compression, a gasoline engine, even a two cycle one fires from 
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> plug ignition.
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-07-31 Thread Edward Beggs

That's right. It is Ok to use certain vegetable oil products and veg
oil/biodiesel blends for the two stroke lube, to replace the oil, and the
lubricity is going to be better in that case. However, biodiesel as fuel is
not a replacement for gasoline.

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2001-07-31 Thread wljohnson


I think that would be a very bad learning experience. A diesel engine fires
from compression, a gasoline engine, even a two cycle one fires from spark
plug ignition.


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2001-07-31 Thread Pip J. Patton

Can anyone on this list tell me what the difference in lubricity is
between biodiesel and gasoline with 2-cycle oil in it?  Can I use
straight biodiesel in my 2-cycle motorcycle?

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2001-07-07 Thread Keith Addison

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>I am a novice, but have always been interested in making my own 
>fuel.  could you give me a starting point?

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I am a novice, but have always been interested in making my own fuel.  could 
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just subscribed and unsubscribed a new address. worked ok. you can go to
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2001-04-28 Thread k5farms


> have it in writing now, that they will buy any electricity I make 
and pay
> 0.025 cents per kw pre hour, also using biodiesel for heating
  both reps. are excited, 
Reminds me of a certain sailor boy,,,

In 1997, a dairy put in an anaerobic digester and sold excess at 
$.038 and was charged $.028 for any juice he used.
The Traverse City Power and light(Michigan) had sold green juice for 
wind gens at a premium and had to turn away customers as output(winds 
don't always blow)

A 500 thousand watt generator(cummins) will use 35.2 gallons per hour.
a 125k will use 10 GPH. All is fine if using methane for free, add 
$.70 gallon for whsle veggie oil or $1.25 diesel and the cost of 
generating electricity is over $.04.

I pay $.08 a K/hr, the best use is to replace an existing customer 
paying more than .08 and sell the excess for at least .05, to do 
otherwise, you would be subsidising as much as the US army! You have 
a local energy supply that is much more valuable than any Saudi or 
Venezualian produced oil. If all they will give you is .025, then 
find another use for the excess as you stated before, grow some 
strawberries(Erd Berren) and invite your home town to sample the 
forrbidden fruit(whats a huge sheet of plastic worth??) ((A free 
steak dinner to first one that lets me sample a hydroponic 
strawberry))(((fresh)))

A diesel engine is 37% efficient, resulting in 63% heat, a cheap way 
to produce BioD, eh?


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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-03-15 Thread Keith Addison

>  Hi Keith and All,
> Was our problem child named Troy Hegy? If so
>he's moved to the EV list.
>I want to make sure.
>Thanks , jerry dycus

Hi Jerry

Troy Heagy, has to be the same. That's a pity. His purpose is clear 
enough going there, isn't it? He won't exactly be after spreading 
lots of sweetness and light. He can cause damage to that list. Does 
it have a hands-on moderator? He's no child, by the way, though he 
sure acts like one, he's 29, or close to it. Keep an eye, Jerry.

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2001-03-15 Thread jerry dycus


  Hi Keith and All,
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2001-02-20 Thread Cristian Quesada Rojas

Good day friends, my name has been Cristian, for months been compiling 
information, on the modifications of the motor to work it with ethanol (E85 
or E 95), At the present time I have a Chevrolet S10, mod 89, which I would 
like to modify, not if the motor is ffv, and I she would like to know that 
experiences have had or known the modification of these vehicles in special.
My main interest to modify this vehicle is that I am producing of sugar grey 
hair, and its derivatives. I hope can understand to me, already my handling 
of ingles is very bad
Gracias
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2001-02-09 Thread terry calmes

Has anyone found a good use for the left over liquids after you have 
distilled your brew? If so I would love to know about it. I am already 
feeding the mash mixed in with my dairy cow barn ration.But what about the 
waste water? Thank a bunch, Terry
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-01-01 Thread skaar

of course pif's can't run by themselves, so i guess saving and examining
wouldn't hurt.  i'll check it.

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> > > Name: BLINK_182.MP3.pif
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of course pif's can't run by themselves, so i guess saving and examining
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My thoughts exactly.  I deleted it instantly,
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well
> gotta be a virus.
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Name: BLINK_182.MP3.pif
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-01-01 Thread Bryan Fullerton

It is.. it is a W95/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus..


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2000-12-31 Thread Eric Ellison

My thoughts exactly.  I deleted it instantly, and I
suggest that EVERYONE who receives this delete it as
well

> gotta be a virus.
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2000-12-31 Thread skaar

gotta be a virus.

Odilon deVeyra Olaya wrote:

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2000-12-31 Thread Odilon deVeyra Olaya

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2000-12-22 Thread terry calmes

Here is a question to anyone in the group. How long, from start to finish 
does it take to get the first few drops of ethanol( hours, days weeks)? 
Several article that I have read have different time frames. Is this because 
of the base materials (I am pretty sure of the answer but I just want verify 
it)? And I am mainly interested in the time frame for the use of corn as the 
base substance. Thank a bunch, Terry
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2000-12-09 Thread Keith Addison

>I didn't realize that this info was so old. Do you know of any vendors (or
>have any suggestions) in the states that might have a web site or ordering
>information to  purchase enzymes and yeast for distilling on such a small
>scale. The first sites suggested to me were to large for what I want to do
>right now. Thank a bunch, Terry

AllTech should be okay, no? Here's some others - especially in New 
Zealand, but you can do mail order:

Tony Ackland explains what you need at the Home Distillation of 
Alcohol (Homemade Alcohol) site -- thermometers, hydrometers, 
fermenters, etc.
http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_distiller/equipment.htm

New Zealand commercial suppliers Spirits Unlimited, mail order:
http://www.spiritsunlimited.co.nz/pstills.htm

Ray Toms' Moonshine Supplies -- Ray "in his own humble opinion is the 
best person to help you with any brewing problems you may come 
across". Mail order New Zealand and world-wide (local law is your 
problem). Hydrometers, Hyper Yeast, Turbo Yeast, other yeasts, and 
much more:
http://moonshine.co.nz/spirit.html

AllTech -- yeast suppliers and three years of The Alcohol News newsletter.
http://www.alltech-bio.com/alcohol.htm

The Brewery's Technical Library for articles on brewing related 
topics -- see Yeasts.
http://www.brewery.org/brewery/Library.html

Keith

> >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: biofuel@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
> >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:54:06 +0900
> >
> >Hi Terry
> >
> >The Mother Earth manual's 20 years old, and ME has changed greatly
> >since then. I'd by very surprised if they still offered enzymes and
> >things. I'll be scanning more of the manual soon, good stuff.
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith Addison
> >Journey to Forever
> >Handmade Projects
> >Tokyo
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> >
> >
> >
> > >Thank for the information. I'll try contact these guys and see what they
> > >have to say. As far as the amount I will try to produce, I am just trying
> >to
> > >learn how to do this right. So it will be very small amounts, maybe
> >enough
> > >to run the lawnmower or something like that till I get the hang of it.
> >who
> > >knows... Thanks once again for the insight. TERRY
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "cpech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
> > > >To: 
> > > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
> > > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:02:42 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Terry,
> > > >For enzymes - Genencor International, Inc.
> > > >www.genencor.com
> > > >
> > > >For yeast - Alltech
> > > >www.alltech-bio.com
> > > >
> > > >What kind of a set-up do you have? I'm considering a 30 to 50 gph
> >system.
> > > >
> > > >Craig
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: terry calmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: 
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
> > > >Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it
> >mentioned
> > > > > "Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel
> > > > > fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or
> >is
> > > > > there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their
> >web
> > > >site
> > > > > doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can
> >help...Terry
> > > >Calmes


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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2000-12-08 Thread terry calmes

I didn't realize that this info was so old. Do you know of any vendors (or 
have any suggestions) in the states that might have a web site or ordering 
information to  purchase enzymes and yeast for distilling on such a small 
scale. The first sites suggested to me were to large for what I want to do 
right now. Thank a bunch, Terry


>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
>To: biofuel@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
>Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:54:06 +0900
>
>Hi Terry
>
>The Mother Earth manual's 20 years old, and ME has changed greatly
>since then. I'd by very surprised if they still offered enzymes and
>things. I'll be scanning more of the manual soon, good stuff.
>
>Best
>
>Keith Addison
>Journey to Forever
>Handmade Projects
>Tokyo
>http://journeytoforever.org/
>
>
>
> >Thank for the information. I'll try contact these guys and see what they
> >have to say. As far as the amount I will try to produce, I am just trying 
>to
> >learn how to do this right. So it will be very small amounts, maybe 
>enough
> >to run the lawnmower or something like that till I get the hang of it. 
>who
> >knows... Thanks once again for the insight. TERRY
> >
> >
> > >From: "cpech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:02:42 -0600
> > >
> > >Terry,
> > >For enzymes - Genencor International, Inc.
> > >www.genencor.com
> > >
> > >For yeast - Alltech
> > >www.alltech-bio.com
> > >
> > >What kind of a set-up do you have? I'm considering a 30 to 50 gph 
>system.
> > >
> > >Craig
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: terry calmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: 
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
> > >Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it 
>mentioned
> > > > "Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel
> > > > fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or 
>is
> > > > there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their 
>web
> > >site
> > > > doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can 
>help...Terry
> > >Calmes
> > > >
> > > >
> > 
> >
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2000-12-08 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Terry

The Mother Earth manual's 20 years old, and ME has changed greatly 
since then. I'd by very surprised if they still offered enzymes and 
things. I'll be scanning more of the manual soon, good stuff.

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 

>Thank for the information. I'll try contact these guys and see what they
>have to say. As far as the amount I will try to produce, I am just trying to
>learn how to do this right. So it will be very small amounts, maybe enough
>to run the lawnmower or something like that till I get the hang of it. who
>knows... Thanks once again for the insight. TERRY
>
>
> >From: "cpech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
> >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:02:42 -0600
> >
> >Terry,
> >For enzymes - Genencor International, Inc.
> >www.genencor.com
> >
> >For yeast - Alltech
> >www.alltech-bio.com
> >
> >What kind of a set-up do you have? I'm considering a 30 to 50 gph system.
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: terry calmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
> >Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
> >
> >
> > > Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it mentioned
> > > "Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel
> > > fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or is
> > > there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their web
> >site
> > > doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can help...Terry
> >Calmes
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2000-12-08 Thread terry calmes

Thank for the information. I'll try contact these guys and see what they 
have to say. As far as the amount I will try to produce, I am just trying to 
learn how to do this right. So it will be very small amounts, maybe enough 
to run the lawnmower or something like that till I get the hang of it. who 
knows... Thanks once again for the insight. TERRY


>From: "cpech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] (unknown)
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:02:42 -0600
>
>Terry,
>For enzymes - Genencor International, Inc.
>www.genencor.com
>
>For yeast - Alltech
>www.alltech-bio.com
>
>What kind of a set-up do you have? I'm considering a 30 to 50 gph system.
>
>Craig
>
>- Original Message -
>From: terry calmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
>Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)
>
>
> > Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it mentioned
> > "Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel
> > fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or is
> > there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their web
>site
> > doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can help...Terry
>Calmes
> >
> >
>
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Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2000-12-07 Thread cpech

Terry,
For enzymes - Genencor International, Inc.
www.genencor.com

For yeast - Alltech
www.alltech-bio.com

What kind of a set-up do you have? I'm considering a 30 to 50 gph system.

Craig

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From: terry calmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: [biofuel] (unknown)


> Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it mentioned
> "Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel
> fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or is
> there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their web
site
> doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can help...Terry
Calmes
>
>

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2000-12-07 Thread terry calmes

Last night I was reading one of the archive articles and it mentioned 
"Mothers alcohol fuel mash cooking enzymes and Mothers alcohol fuel 
fermentation powder". What are these and where can I purchase it? Or is 
there an adequate substitute for them on the market locally? Their web site 
doesn't mention anything about either. Hope some one can help...Terry Calmes

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2000-09-20 Thread terry calmes

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