[biofuel] New Hampshire- biodiesel seminar with Michael Briggs and 'girl Mark' , July 18
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Algae/feedstock researcher guru Michael Briggs, of the University of New Hampshire Biodiesel Project, who also moderates Biodieselnow.com, is doing a biodiesel workshop with me this coming Sunday July 18th, in Durham New Hampshire. Michael Briggs does algae biodiesel feedstock and mustard oil research and is working to involve local farmers in production of mustard oil for biodiesel (good yields) and mustard meal for it's natural pesticide properties. Some of this is detailed at the UNH biodiesel project website: http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/ We will also cover biodiesel homebrewing and demonstrate equipment and the homebrewing process, as well as discuss some of the local biodiesel coop activities in the area. Some topics would include biodiesel processor design, cold weather issues, and discussion of feedstocks (including both feedstocks generally available for homebrewing, and their characteristics, as well as some discussion of feedstocks of the future - essentially where the biodiesel industry is headed (hopefully, but depending on how much cooperation there is between researchers and the industry)). The workshop fee is by donation, no one turned away for lack of funds, please pay what you wish (down to $0 if desired) Below are somewhat convoluted directions cut and pasted from the biodieselnow.com thread on this class ( http://forums.biodieselnow. com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3031 ) RSVP: Both Michael and I have been too busy to properly organize this ahead of time, and therefore it is somewhat informal- but if you can, please click on the biodieselnow.com thread and rsvp so that he knows roughly how many people to expect. Im sorry I can't answer many emails about the class while I'm driving up there in the next few days. Ask questions at the biodieselnow.com thread as I can't answer them via email immediately. Directions: It's the Mill Pond Center for the Arts (side note - this is a non-profit center that does various artsy programs and is getting into environmental education programs. Additionally, they will HOPEFULLY be soon having a retail B100 pump set up there - there have just been some hold ups getting everything set up - so, people coming to this should also be finding where a new B100 retail outlet will be, assuming we can get this one set up) This is the place on yahoo's maps thingy: http://travel.yahoo. com/p-travelguide-2993683-mill_pond_center_for_the_arts_durham-i The website for the center is http://www.millpondcenter.org/ Personalized directions - if you're coming from somewhere in Massachusetts, you want to head up I-95 towards Portsmouth (I'm assuming people know how to find I-95 ). As you are getting to Portsmouth, there are a few exits, and you want to stay in the LEFT LANE, since the exit you take (a two-lane exit) is on the left. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's the only exit on the left side of the highway. An exit on the right is at almost the same exact spot, this being the exit for the Portsmouth traffic circle (which I *think* is exit 4). This left exit puts you on the Spaulding Turnpike, aka Route 16. If you're coming from Maine, you want to come down I-95, and take the exit for the Spaulding Turnpike just after you cross over into New Hampshire. Not sure what the number is, but can find out if people want. Now, with both ways, you are on the Spaulding Turnpike (Route 16). You'll continue on this until you go over a bridge over water (where two rivers meet). While driving over the bridge, notice how pretty the scenery is, and go ooohh. Right after crossing the bridge, there is an exit for a park (Hilton Park). Do not take that exit. The next exit is 6N (if I remember correctly), which takes you to Dover. Don't take that one either. Take the NEXT exit, which is 6W, just after 6N (this is a cloverleaf type exit, 6W is just after an overpass, and you loop around and go over the overpass). So - you are taking the SECOND exit 6, which I am almost positive is 6W. The sign should say that it's for Durham, where UNH is (it may not mention UNH, can't remember). The road this puts you on is Route 4 (Route 4 west, to be specific). Okay, you loop around and go over the overpass (over the highway you just got off of), and come to a traffic light. Go straight through the traffic light. You'll go over another bridge over water, much closer to the water this time. Again go oh. You are driving on Route 4 West now. You'll go through another traffic light, and then continue for several miles (without any traffic lights). You'll eventually come to an exit off of Route 4, and you will take the very first one (uhhh... I think, I'll check to make sure I'm not forgetting any. Also can't remember the number of this one). This is the first exit for Durham and UNH (although another one is closer to UNH, so this exit may not
[biofuel] New to Biodiesel
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hi all, I have been talking and reserching biofuel for several months now and have succsesfully made test batches in a blender. This Yahoo group is great and an invalualble resorse. And so now I am ready to build my first prossesing unit, and wish to pick some brains out there. Here is the deal, I want to make about 30-40 Gallons per batch. I have the space to do so, but keep going back and forth about systems and also methods Mike Pelly or Aleks Kac. I wish to re-use and recycle or turn into something as much of the by products as possable. Is there any advise out there from some one with a simuler size prossesing unit. Thanks much. Matthew Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [evworld] Re: [biofuel] New California Biodiesel plant
Nope, not me. I think that it was someone else. I had some contention with SSPC, but that was about all. I did call BAT yesterday to find out the opening date and they were reluctant. I also was trying to dig for the 'special' process they were hearlding, and it was just single stage continuous. I thought they might be trying the supercitical method, but I don't think so from what they indicated. I also thought they might be using some sort of acid/base method, but again I really don't think so. James Slayden On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, murdoch wrote: It's nice to see, but let's be careful. Going by the URL, we can see this is reconstituted B.A.T. international. I am less cynical about them than others (I think at times they meant well) but I wouldn't go rushing out to buy any stock in the new company. The first time I ever heard about SSPC, Southern States Power (now declined to 1/2 cent per share) was from a person at BAT, as SSPC apparently had something to do with them. At the time I think there was some petroleum claim in the Gulf of Mexico which SSPC had something to do with. Later we see SSPC supposedly wanting to do the biofuel thing here in California and I guess there's been some effort, so good. But I'm just saying: let's see the Green Star production numbers, when they have production. B.A.T. had every invention in sight that was going to change the world, including an 80 mpg diesel metro, powered by some strange engine advance, a wonderful super duper lubricant, etc. No, they weren't just a scam. I personally visited a plant in Mexico that they'd set up to build cars, and indeed it was there and they were doing their best, if naively. But I think they were too ambitious, not focused enough and there were many bad signs. I always took a company about to save the world with six different inventions to be a bad sign. I do think they were at times *very* guilty of some of the worst sort of stock promotion. One bad sign was the el-bizarro amount of posting on stock-discussion boards about B.A.T. Later on this also was characteristic of SSPC (what a surprise). I didn't know this until there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about alternative energy stock scams taking advantage of the energy issues, particularly the crisis in California. The Journal story pointed out that there were dozens of thousands of posts about SSPC on a stock discussion board, although the company only had reported revenues of something like $32,000. Sheesh. The President replied that he agreed with the reporter that the amount of interest in the company was not commensurate with its activities. I replied on my web page that I felt compelled to put them and BAT both into a bit of an Alternative Energy Hall of Shame, given that the President of SSPC and-or his secretary had taken compensation in SEVEN figures for a company that had about $32,000 in revenues. So anyway, by that time BAT was not any longer part of them, but I am just skeptical until I see otherwise that this new incarnation of Mr. Lastella's will prove fruitful. However, I don't take it for granted that it won't. I met him a couple of times, and Bill Wasson several times, and I think they had some technical knowledge and some desire to put together a company. They need to focus and do it though, and cut out the stock market focus and manipulation. Just my opinion. James, didn't you or someone else mention something about buying some biofuel near San Diego from Bill Wasson? Sometimes they'd balance out the chance to write them off by actually doing something that took business competence and follow-through. MM Largest one in the nation (apparently): http://www.baat.com/pr03-02-24.htm James Slayden Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] New California Biodiesel plant
It's nice to see, but let's be careful. Going by the URL, we can see this is reconstituted B.A.T. international. I am less cynical about them than others (I think at times they meant well) but I wouldn't go rushing out to buy any stock in the new company. The first time I ever heard about SSPC, Southern States Power (now declined to 1/2 cent per share) was from a person at BAT, as SSPC apparently had something to do with them. At the time I think there was some petroleum claim in the Gulf of Mexico which SSPC had something to do with. Later we see SSPC supposedly wanting to do the biofuel thing here in California and I guess there's been some effort, so good. But I'm just saying: let's see the Green Star production numbers, when they have production. B.A.T. had every invention in sight that was going to change the world, including an 80 mpg diesel metro, powered by some strange engine advance, a wonderful super duper lubricant, etc. No, they weren't just a scam. I personally visited a plant in Mexico that they'd set up to build cars, and indeed it was there and they were doing their best, if naively. But I think they were too ambitious, not focused enough and there were many bad signs. I always took a company about to save the world with six different inventions to be a bad sign. I do think they were at times *very* guilty of some of the worst sort of stock promotion. One bad sign was the el-bizarro amount of posting on stock-discussion boards about B.A.T. Later on this also was characteristic of SSPC (what a surprise). I didn't know this until there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about alternative energy stock scams taking advantage of the energy issues, particularly the crisis in California. The Journal story pointed out that there were dozens of thousands of posts about SSPC on a stock discussion board, although the company only had reported revenues of something like $32,000. Sheesh. The President replied that he agreed with the reporter that the amount of interest in the company was not commensurate with its activities. I replied on my web page that I felt compelled to put them and BAT both into a bit of an Alternative Energy Hall of Shame, given that the President of SSPC and-or his secretary had taken compensation in SEVEN figures for a company that had about $32,000 in revenues. So anyway, by that time BAT was not any longer part of them, but I am just skeptical until I see otherwise that this new incarnation of Mr. Lastella's will prove fruitful. However, I don't take it for granted that it won't. I met him a couple of times, and Bill Wasson several times, and I think they had some technical knowledge and some desire to put together a company. They need to focus and do it though, and cut out the stock market focus and manipulation. Just my opinion. James, didn't you or someone else mention something about buying some biofuel near San Diego from Bill Wasson? Sometimes they'd balance out the chance to write them off by actually doing something that took business competence and follow-through. MM Largest one in the nation (apparently): http://www.baat.com/pr03-02-24.htm James Slayden Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New California Biodiesel plant
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Re: [biofuel] New California Biodiesel plant
It's nice to see, but let's be careful. Going by the URL, we can see this is reconstituted B.A.T. international. I am less cynical about them than others (I think at times they meant well) but I wouldn't go rushing out to buy any stock in the new company. The first time I ever heard about SSPC, Southern States Power (now declined to 1/2 cent per share) was from a person at BAT, as SSPC apparently had something to do with them. At the time I think there was some petroleum claim in the Gulf of Mexico which SSPC had something to do with. Later we see SSPC supposedly wanting to do the biofuel thing here in California and I guess there's been some effort, so good. But I'm just saying: let's see the Green Star production numbers, when they have production. B.A.T. had every invention in sight that was going to change the world, including an 80 mpg diesel metro, powered by some strange engine advance, a wonderful super duper lubricant, etc. No, they weren't just a scam. I personally visited a plant in Mexico that they'd set up to build cars, and indeed it was there and they were doing their best, if naively. But I think they were too ambitious, not focused enough and there were many bad signs. I always took a company about to save the world with six different inventions to be a bad sign. I do think they were at times *very* guilty of some of the worst sort of stock promotion. One bad sign was the el-bizarro amount of posting on stock-discussion boards about B.A.T. Later on this also was characteristic of SSPC (what a surprise). I didn't know this until there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about alternative energy stock scams taking advantage of the energy issues, particularly the crisis in California. The Journal story pointed out that there were dozens of thousands of posts about SSPC on a stock discussion board, although the company only had reported revenues of something like $32,000. Sheesh. The President replied that he agreed with the reporter that the amount of interest in the company was not commensurate with its activities. I replied on my web page that I felt compelled to put them and BAT both into a bit of an Alternative Energy Hall of Shame, given that the President of SSPC and-or his secretary had taken compensation in SEVEN figures for a company that had about $32,000 in revenues. So anyway, by that time BAT was not any longer part of them, but I am just skeptical until I see otherwise that this new incarnation of Mr. Lastella's will prove fruitful. However, I don't take it for granted that it won't. I met him a couple of times, and Bill Wasson several times, and I think they had some technical knowledge and some desire to put together a company. They need to focus and do it though, and cut out the stock market focus and manipulation. Just my opinion. James, didn't you or someone else mention something about buying some biofuel near San Diego from Bill Wasson? Sometimes they'd balance out the chance to write them off by actually doing something that took business competence and follow-through. MM Largest one in the nation (apparently): http://www.baat.com/pr03-02-24.htm James Slayden Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New to biodiesel and looking for neighbors
Hi everyone! I was actually subscribed to this list a month or so ago and couldn't take the volume of emails. Better now. Actually, I'm looking for folks in Pennsylvania, New Jersey or Delaware (OK - eastern New York too) who have some experience with the production of biodiesel, either small or large scale. I've been involved in chemical and equipment sales for a long time so have a simple, basic understanding of chemistry. I'm not a trained chemist but do know enough to be dangerous and also to be cautious. I've got a lot of questions about fuel taxes, the EPA and byproducts of the production of biodiesel and much more. I was all ready to get started on my own but feel that caution is called for. I've had too many dealings with the EPA and the PA DEP to end up with a mess on my hands because I didn't fully understand what I was dealing with. Would appreciate hearing from those in the almost immediate area for the purpose of conversation and perhaps visits. Also, would appreciate leads anyone can give that might point to practitioners who might not be on this list. Thanks for the interest. Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless you want the whole list to get the message. (It's a personal bug of mine to have all these messages in my mailbox which are really better sent to a single person.) Looking forward to your response. King Graver [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to biodiesel and looking for neighbors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Thanks for the interest. Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless you want the whole list to get the message. (It's a personal bug of mine to have all these messages in my mailbox which are really better sent to a single person.) I think it's better to have them all in the message archives. Very hard to say in advance what kind of information might prove useful to other people. Your mailbox - only one? You don't use filters? Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Looking forward to your response. King Graver Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to biodiesel and looking for neighbors
Greg Yohn in Philly, Myself in Trenton, NJ Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] New to biodiesel and looking for neighbors Hi everyone! I was actually subscribed to this list a month or so ago and couldn't take the volume of emails. Better now. Actually, I'm looking for folks in Pennsylvania, New Jersey or Delaware (OK - eastern New York too) who have some experience with the production of biodiesel, either small or large scale. I've been involved in chemical and equipment sales for a long time so have a simple, basic understanding of chemistry. I'm not a trained chemist but do know enough to be dangerous and also to be cautious. I've got a lot of questions about fuel taxes, the EPA and byproducts of the production of biodiesel and much more. I was all ready to get started on my own but feel that caution is called for. I've had too many dealings with the EPA and the PA DEP to end up with a mess on my hands because I didn't fully understand what I was dealing with. Would appreciate hearing from those in the almost immediate area for the purpose of conversation and perhaps visits. Also, would appreciate leads anyone can give that might point to practitioners who might not be on this list. Thanks for the interest. Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless you want the whole list to get the message. (It's a personal bug of mine to have all these messages in my mailbox which are really better sent to a single person.) Looking forward to your response. King Graver [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
