Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Or Biofraud? The Vast Taxpayer Cost Of Failed Cellulosic And Algal Biofuels

[Jake Kruger]

It always amuses me when articles like this ramble on about x billion
dollars of taxpayer money going to biofuel projects as if no taxpayer money
were flowing to the fossil fuel industry (or other renewable energy
projects, for that matter).

Also interesting that this article assigns the recent bankruptcies to
"obviously ill-fated schemes" and doesn't mention anything about
currently-cheap oil, RFS uncertainties, or impatient investors.

Certainly the technologies the author seems to prefer are important, but
her implication that biofuels have no real role to play is, I think,
misguided.



On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Darryl McMahon 
wrote:

>
> http://www.independentsciencenews.org/environment/biofuel-or-biofraud-the-vast-taxpayer-cost-of-failed-cellulosic-and-algal-biofuels/
>
> Biofuel or Biofraud? The Vast Taxpayer Cost of Failed Cellulosic and Algal
> Biofuels
>
> March 14, 2016
>
> By Almuth Ernsting
>
> Biofuels consumed today are usually ethanol made from the sugar in sugar
> cane (or sugar beet) or they may be made from starch in grains. In the US
> this is mostly corn starch. Alternatively, biodiesel may be made from plant
> oils such as soybean or canola oil.
>
> Cellulosic biofuels, on the other hand, are biofuels made from crop
> residues (e.g. corn stover), wood, or whole plants, especially grasses
> (e.g. switchgrass). Cellulosic biofuels include cellulosic ethanol (made by
> isolating, breaking down and then fermenting the complex sugars in the cell
> walls of plants), as well as ‘drop in biofuels’. These biofuels are
> chemically almost identical to fossil-fuel based kerosene, diesel or
> gasoline.
>
> In November 2014, cellulosic biofuel company KiOR filed for bankruptcy,
> having shut down their refinery in Columbus, Mississippi earlier that year.
> There have been many unsuccessful biofuel ventures of this type, but KiOR’s
> stands out for four reasons:
>
> 1)  They had sold the first-ever cellulosic biofuels made in a
> commercial-scale facility in the US and produced the first cellulosic
> gasoline ever accredited as such by the US Enviornmental Protection Agency
> (EPA);
>
> 2)  They were the highest valued ‘advanced’ biofuel company backed by
> venture capitalist Vinod Khosla and his company, Khosla Ventures, having
> been valued at over $1.5 billion when they launched on the stock market.
> Khosla has been one of the most influential advocates of cellulosic
> biofuels in the US.  Back in 2010, the EPA set a target for cellulosic
> ethanol, that relied almost entirely on Khosla’s promises about what
> another company he’d invested in – Cello Energy – could deliver. Cello
> Energy filed for bankruptcy that same year, after they had been found
> guilty of fraud;
>
> 3) KiOR had obtained a $75 million loan from the State of Mississippi of
> which they had repaid just $6 million by the time they filed for
> bankruptcy.  The Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood has described this
> as “one of the largest frauds ever perpetrated on the State of
> Mississippi.” He has initiated a fraud suit against former KiOR executives
> as well as against Vinod Khosla, alleging that they misled investors about
> the quantities and yields of biofuels they could achieve.  A separate class
> suit has been raised on behalf of shareholders who claim to have incurred
> financial losses because they bought shares as a result of misleading
> claims by KiOR executives and Vinod Khosla about the company’s achievements
> and capabilities.
>
> 4) As a result of the bankruptcy proceedings and the fraud suits,
> information about what went wrong are entering the public domain.
>
> The reasons behind KiOR’s failure are simple: Most of the time, they
> couldn’t get their technology to work enough to produce biofuels and when
> they did manage it, yields were far lower than KiOR had claimed. The plant,
> built to produce 13 million gallons of biofuels a year, produced a mere
> 133,000 gallons in 2013, sold another 97,000 gallons in early 2014, and
> then shut down. KiOR had claimed to achieve a yield of 67 gallons from each
> ton of dry biomass and to be working towards a target of 90 gallons/ton.
> Yet according to internal documents cited in Mississippi’s lawsuit, KiOR’s
> actual yields remained a mere 20-22 gallons/ton.
>
> The fraud for which Cello Energy was sued and ultimately convicted
> involved mislabelling fossil fuels as biofuels for ‘test’ programmes. KiOR
> on the other hand is alleged to have knowingly misled investors and
> possibly the Securities and Exchange Commission about the amount of
> biofuels they could produce and the yields they could gain.  Yet similarly
> hyped claims about ‘advanced biofuels’ are widespread and commonplace on
> different companies’ websites, in industry magazines and press releases.
>
> A closer look at another cellulosic biofuels company – Red Rock Biofuels –
> suggests the federal government has not learned any lessons from KiOR or
> Cello, nor for that matter any o

[Biofuel] Biofuel Or Biofraud? The Vast Taxpayer Cost Of Failed Cellulosic And Algal Biofuels

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.independentsciencenews.org/environment/biofuel-or-biofraud-the-vast-taxpayer-cost-of-failed-cellulosic-and-algal-biofuels/

Biofuel or Biofraud? The Vast Taxpayer Cost of Failed Cellulosic and 
Algal Biofuels


March 14, 2016

By Almuth Ernsting

Biofuels consumed today are usually ethanol made from the sugar in sugar 
cane (or sugar beet) or they may be made from starch in grains. In the 
US this is mostly corn starch. Alternatively, biodiesel may be made from 
plant oils such as soybean or canola oil.


Cellulosic biofuels, on the other hand, are biofuels made from crop 
residues (e.g. corn stover), wood, or whole plants, especially grasses 
(e.g. switchgrass). Cellulosic biofuels include cellulosic ethanol (made 
by isolating, breaking down and then fermenting the complex sugars in 
the cell walls of plants), as well as ‘drop in biofuels’. These biofuels 
are chemically almost identical to fossil-fuel based kerosene, diesel or 
gasoline.


In November 2014, cellulosic biofuel company KiOR filed for bankruptcy, 
having shut down their refinery in Columbus, Mississippi earlier that 
year. There have been many unsuccessful biofuel ventures of this type, 
but KiOR’s stands out for four reasons:


1)  They had sold the first-ever cellulosic biofuels made in a 
commercial-scale facility in the US and produced the first cellulosic 
gasoline ever accredited as such by the US Enviornmental Protection 
Agency (EPA);


2)  They were the highest valued ‘advanced’ biofuel company backed by 
venture capitalist Vinod Khosla and his company, Khosla Ventures, having 
been valued at over $1.5 billion when they launched on the stock market. 
Khosla has been one of the most influential advocates of cellulosic 
biofuels in the US.  Back in 2010, the EPA set a target for cellulosic 
ethanol, that relied almost entirely on Khosla’s promises about what 
another company he’d invested in – Cello Energy – could deliver. Cello 
Energy filed for bankruptcy that same year, after they had been found 
guilty of fraud;


3) KiOR had obtained a $75 million loan from the State of Mississippi of 
which they had repaid just $6 million by the time they filed for 
bankruptcy.  The Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood has described 
this as “one of the largest frauds ever perpetrated on the State of 
Mississippi.” He has initiated a fraud suit against former KiOR 
executives as well as against Vinod Khosla, alleging that they misled 
investors about the quantities and yields of biofuels they could 
achieve.  A separate class suit has been raised on behalf of 
shareholders who claim to have incurred financial losses because they 
bought shares as a result of misleading claims by KiOR executives and 
Vinod Khosla about the company’s achievements and capabilities.


4) As a result of the bankruptcy proceedings and the fraud suits, 
information about what went wrong are entering the public domain.


The reasons behind KiOR’s failure are simple: Most of the time, they 
couldn’t get their technology to work enough to produce biofuels and 
when they did manage it, yields were far lower than KiOR had claimed. 
The plant, built to produce 13 million gallons of biofuels a year, 
produced a mere 133,000 gallons in 2013, sold another 97,000 gallons in 
early 2014, and then shut down. KiOR had claimed to achieve a yield of 
67 gallons from each ton of dry biomass and to be working towards a 
target of 90 gallons/ton. Yet according to internal documents cited in 
Mississippi’s lawsuit, KiOR’s actual yields remained a mere 20-22 
gallons/ton.


The fraud for which Cello Energy was sued and ultimately convicted 
involved mislabelling fossil fuels as biofuels for ‘test’ programmes. 
KiOR on the other hand is alleged to have knowingly misled investors and 
possibly the Securities and Exchange Commission about the amount of 
biofuels they could produce and the yields they could gain.  Yet 
similarly hyped claims about ‘advanced biofuels’ are widespread and 
commonplace on different companies’ websites, in industry magazines and 
press releases.


A closer look at another cellulosic biofuels company – Red Rock Biofuels 
– suggests the federal government has not learned any lessons from KiOR 
or Cello, nor for that matter any of the other failed cellulosic or 
algae biorefineries. They are still eager to offer grants and loan 
guarantees on the basis of wildly hyped up claims about unproven 
technologies.

Red Rock Biofuels: Another KiOR in the making?

On 19th September 2015, the federal government announced a total of $210 
million in grants, split evenly between three companies each of which 
was to build one biorefinery, paid under the Defense Production Act. 
The three refineries are to produce biofuels for the military.  One of 
the three companies – Emerald Biofuels – has been secretive about their 
precise feedstock but their technology relies on the same kind of 
process as conventional biodiesel, i.e. plant oils and animal fats. 
Their faci

[Biofuel] Biofuel adds diversity to Western Kansas farm - News - Ag Journal Online - La Junta, CO - La Junta, CO

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.agjournalonline.com/article/20151024/NEWS/151029914


Biofuel adds diversity to Western Kansas farm
Before Matt Jaeger joined the family farm, he thought of farming as 
producing food and fiber, not energy.



By Candace Krebs Contributing Writer

Posted Oct. 24, 2015 at 6:00 AM

Before Matt Jaeger joined the family farm, he thought of farming as 
producing food and fiber, not energy.


But renewable energy in all of its various forms has changed the 
definition of what it means to be involved in agriculture. Governmental 
policies like the Renewable Fuels Standard have forever altered the 
landscape for Jaeger’s generation and future generations as well.


Bio-based energy was the topic of several recent regional events. 
On Oct. 16, Northern Colorado Clean Cities hosted a daylong, statewide 
stakeholders meeting in Windsor to discuss incentives for alternative 
fuels. On October 21, the Region 2 U.S. Forest Service, headquartered in 
Golden, helped celebrate National Bio-Energy Day.


Coming up on Monday, Oct. 26, the National Advanced Biofuels 
Conference kicks off in Omaha, Neb. Sessions there will cover 
developments in next generation fuels made from crop residue, 
fermentation waste and other cellulosic materials.


Biodiesel was still a relatively new thing when Matt Jaeger’s older 
brother Luke decided to try it in his farm equipment. At the time Luke 
had just started farming his maternal grandparents’ land near Minneola, 
Kansas, and Matt, a graduate of Sterling College in Kansas, was involved 
in high school coaching and youth ministry. Luke liked the fuel, and 
soon the two brothers were tinkering with formulating their own. 
Eventually they had the makings of a new business on their hands.


They decided to convert an old machine shed into a 1.2 million 
gallon biodiesel plant they designed and plumbed themselves using a 
series of tanks and reactors.


Their new company, Emergent Green Energy, started selling biodiesel 
commercially in 2009.


“We didn’t borrow any money to start,” Matt recalled recently at 
the farm while his brother was out of town attending a biofuels 
conference. “We used money from farming and custom harvesting and 
everything we made we invested back into the plant. Bootstrapping, I 
guess that’s what you’d call it. It was kind of the Wild West when the 
federal tax credit came in and drew in more players. Now it’s back to 
being a leaner group again.”


Matt said the two have no regrets about starting the business, even 
though fuel markets have been volatile.


“It’s helped me integrate back into the farm and be involved in 
farming and agribusiness,” he said. “Back when I was in high school in 
the mid-1990s (the two grew up on the family farm near Leoti, Kansas) I 
would never have guessed I would be able to be in agriculture and be 
involved on the energy side of things.”


The two brothers got in early on an emerging trend. The virtues of 
biodiesel soon became apparent, as environmental standards grew stricter.


“Biodiesel is an oily fuel, so it provides good lubrication for 
your engine,” Jaeger said. “It behooves everyone operating equipment 
with a diesel motor to be running at least 5 percent biodiesel. Sulfur 
is a pollutant so EPA limited it at 15 ppm and since then they’ve had a 
lot of problems with regular diesel. It’s very dry. Biodiesel blended 
with it can correct some of that.”


The Jaegers have a variety of feedstocks available in the Dodge 
City area, including oilseeds like winter canola and soybeans, as well 
as chicken fat and beef tallow from nearby meat processing plants.


One unique aspect of their business is collecting used cooking oil 
from thousands of restaurants in a roughly 400-mile radius of their 
farm. Customers for their grease trap cleaning and oil collection 
services range from the Kansas City Royals baseball team to eateries 
along Colorado’s Front Range.


Meanwhile, they sell fuel to roughly 50 retail and wholesale 
customers, including local farmers, trucking companies and fuel 
distributors.


Diversification flowed from fuel

With the motto “farmers helping farmers,” Emergent Green Energy is 
finding other ways to diversify.


“Tougher economics led us down the road to other products, and we 
launched another business, EGE Spray Adjuvants. It’s been a good growth 
area for us,” Matt said. “We’re always looking for ways to help farmers 
with a farm-based product, so we are now offering soy-based polymers and 
polymer-based drift control products that are distributed to ag chemical 
dealers all across the state, and in Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma and 
Colorado.”


“Biodiesel kind of got us started in this vein and then it led to 
other things,” he said.


This summer, the Jaegers erected a 111-kilowatt solar array, 
roughly half the size of a football field, which once operational is 
expected to provide for 90 percent of their tota

[Biofuel] Biofuel pellets from palm oil effluent | Daily Express Newspaper Online, Sabah, Malaysia.

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=102985

[Oops.  Misfire on previous send.]

Biofuel pellets from palm oil effluent

Published on: Monday, September 07, 2015

Kuala Lumpur: A company has come up with a method to create biofuel 
pellets from palm oil effluent.


Set up in 2012, the Kuala Lumpur-based company Hyper Fusion 
International is currently exporting these pellets to its business 
partner in South Korea.


Having previously been involved in the waste water management business, 
Hyper Fusion International CEO C. Dinesh said the company realised that 
the future in waste management is in the palm oil business.


'We are not a renewable energy company; we are looking at 
sustainability,' says Dinesh.


"Palm mill waste is very difficult to manage. We spoke to many mill 
owners about our sustainable solution to managing their waste, but they 
were not interested in spending money on sustainability. We are not a 
renewable energy company; we are looking at sustainability.


"In 2013, we found a palm oil mill owner in Klang who was willing to 
give us a chance, and a Korean company agreed to invest in us," he said.


Hyper Fusion treats the waste water sludge and separates the solid 
particles from the mix. The remaining sludge is then turned into pellets.


A palm oil mill generates four kinds of waste: empty fruit bunches, oil 
palm mesocarp fibre (OPMF), kernel shells (PKS) and POME – collectively 
known as biomass.


The company takes all the four by-products and processes them by 
removing up to 90pc of moisture, thereby transforming them into an 
efficient form of fuel for the boilers.


"A mill usually has at least 10 ponds, and the ponds take up about 
two-thirds of the mill area.


"What we do eliminates the need for so many ponds. All we need is the 
first pond, and the last two ponds," said Dinesh.


Not only was Hyper Fusion's method better for the environment, he said, 
but also saved a lot of space in the mill area, which could be used for 
other operations such as farming.


The process treats the effluent and reduces the chemical oxygen demand 
(COD) and BOD (biochemical oxygen demand) by 80pc in less than 10 
minutes. The remainder is then sent into the last two ponds to complete 
the clarification process which takes about two weeks. When it is done 
using the traditional ponding method, the entire process usually takes 
between 90 and 120 days.


"Currently, mill owners look to biogas as a way to trap greenhouse gases 
before they escape into the atmosphere. But after that, you still need 
to remove the sludge. This is a very reactive process, while ours is 
more proactive," he said.


Hyper Fusion is currently working with a mill in Gua Musang, Kelantan, 
which is about to commence farming with land which was previously ponds.


"The land is very fertile as the ponds are naturally rich with 
nutrients. Once they go into farming, they have a mixed income. We can 
even de-sludge the ponds, clean them up and rear fish," said Dinesh.


"The downstream business is additional income. However, the company does 
not stop at this; the amount of energy created is used to power the mill 
as well as its machinery.


"We have these pellets, a source of fuel, and we burn it to create 
energy again. With that energy, we can run that same system. Now, the 
loop is closed.


"We do a barter trade with mill owners. We do not pay for their waste, 
but we give them energy to power their operations in return. "This is 
sustainability. We process their waste and give them back clean, 
efficient fuel.


"Efficient fuel means it is dry. The drier it is, the more efficient 
because you use less energy to ignite it," he said The mill in Gua 
Musang will be the first self-sustaining and power-generating mill in 
Malaysia, Dinesh claimed.


"With this model, mills can become micro IPPs (independent power 
producers). This will localise power generation, which is a more 
efficient way of distributing electricity.


"It is a more sustainable process as there are no logistic costs 
involved, since the micro power plants will be located in the vicinity 
of the mills.


"These micro IPPs can generate between one and two megawatts of 
electricity, which is sufficient for the mill – with the excess supplied 
to the surrounding areas. We now can realise rural electrification for 
Malaysians through palm biomass," he said.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel pellets from palm oil effluent | Daily Express Newspaper Online, Sabah, Malaysia.

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=102985

Biofuel pellets from palm oil effluent

Published on: Monday, September 07, 2015

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[Biofuel] Biofuel industry reacts to API, AFPM letter to EPA | Biomassmagazine.com

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.biomassmagazine.com/articles/11911/biofuel-industry-reacts-to-api-afpm-letter-to-epa

Biofuel industry reacts to API, AFPM letter to EPA

By Erin Voegele | May 08, 2015

A group of 10 biofuel trade associations and companies recently sent a 
letter to U.S. EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy in response to a May 1 
letter issued by the American Petroleum Institute and American Fuel & 
Petrochemical Manufacturers.


“Despite the legal maladies and mischaracterizations in the API/AFPM 
letter, it effectively highlights the choice before you: you must either 
choose to reward the oil industry for refusing to fulfill its 
obligations under the law, or choose to get the renewable fuel standard 
(RFS) back on track by proposing renewable volume obligation (RVO) 
levels that comport with the spirit and intent of the law,” said the 
biofuel groups in the letter.


According to the biofuel industry, the API/AFPM letter confirms that the 
methodology used by EPA to set its proposed 2014 RFOs caters to the 
whims of the oil industry. The API/AFPM letter also encourages the 
agency to use the same methodology to establish future RVOs.


“The methodology used by EPA for its 2014 RVO proposal ultimately 
rewards the intransigence of oil refiners toward investing in renewable 
fuels infrastructure, protects their market share, and thus prevents 
increasing volumes of cleaner and more sustainable renewable fuels from 
entering the marketplace. Adopting the same methodology for RVOs in 2015 
and beyond would continue to reward oil companies for their stubborn 
refusal to follow the spirit and intent of the expanded RFS adopted by 
congress as part of the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act 
(EISA),” said the biofuel groups in the letter.


The biofuel groups also point out that while the API and AFPM refer to 
the 2014 RVO as a “reasonable approach,” the overlook its obvious legal 
infirmities. While the Clean Air Act clearly specifies that to grant a 
waiver, EPA must determine that “…implementation of the requirement 
would severely harm the economy or environment of a State, a region, or 
the United States,” or determine that “…there is an inadequate domestic 
supply” of renewable fuel to meet required blending levels. The biofuel 
groups stress that the term “inadequate domestic supply” does not apply 
to constraints on the ability to distribute required volumes.


“The supposed lack of infrastructure to distribute larger volumes of 
ethanol above and beyond the ‘blend wall’ is not a circumstance that EPA 
may take into consideration when evaluating whether a waiver is 
justified. In fact, the escalating volume requirements of the RFS were 
meant to drive investment in the installation of new infrastructure that 
will enable larger quantities of renewable fuels to be distributed to 
consumers,” said the biofuel groups.


The letter issued by the biofuel groups also disputes API/AFPM claims 
regarding the E10 blend wall, pointing out that E85 and E15 could easily 
overcome those constraints.


“The RFS program was designed to force the oil industry to change the 
status quo—not to perpetuate it. The entire purpose of this program 
would be subverted if the oil industry is rewarded for its failure to 
take the steps necessary—steps it has known about since 2007—to ensure 
that it is capable of distributing, blending, and dispensing the 
renewable fuel volumes required under the statute. We believe EPA faces 
a critically important choice with its expected upcoming 2014-2016 RVO 
proposals: get the RFS back on track by proposing RVOs that comport with 
statutory requirements and EPA’s legal waiver authority, or further 
reward the oil industry by embracing its preferred ‘blend wall’ 
methodology as outlined in the API/AFPM letter. We implore you to choose 
wisely,” concludes the letter.


The document was signed by Abengoa Bioenergy, AEM, Novozymes, the 
Renewable Fuels Association, the American Coalition for Ethanol, the 
Biotechnology Industry Organization, the National Corn Growers 
Association, the Advanced Ethanol Council, Growth Energy and Poet.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel Co-op eager to provide alternative fuel in Pikes Peak region

[Darryl McMahon]

http://gazette.com/biofuel-co-op-eager-to-provide-alternative-fuel-in-pikes-peak-region/article/1551195

Biofuel Co-op eager to provide alternative fuel in Pikes Peak region

By Debbie Kelley • Published: May 8, 2015

An idea that's been puttering along for several years has gained enough 
momentum to generate excitement among local alternative fuel supporters.


Members of Colorado Springs Biofuel Co-op, a group that formed in 2013 
to increase public awareness and availability of homegrown organic 
fuels, are putting the final touches on a processor they've built to 
produce biodiesel fuel from used restaurant vegetable oil.


Steve Moll, owner of Clean Air Lawn Care in Colorado Springs, said he 
can't wait.


"The cleaner the fuel we can run, the better it is for everybody," he said.

Moll's company specializes in all things green. He uses lawnmowers, 
trimmers and blowers powered by batteries recharged with solar energy 
and organic fertilizers. He also runs a larger diesel-powered tractor 
mower for commercial accounts on a mixture of 20 percent processed oil 
and 80 percent diesel purchased from a local commercial vendor.


But he wants to go 100 percent biodiesel, which is what the co-op's 
processor will yield.


"Having biodiesel in our fleet keeps in line with our philosophies," 
Moll said. "Pollution-free lawn care is the future, and biodiesel is 
even cleaner than the propane alternatives that are on the market for 
vehicles and lawn equipment."


Biodiesel is made through a chemical process called transesterification, 
which involves separating the glycerin from vegetable oil. One byproduct 
of the process is methyl esters, the chemical name for biodiesel. 
Biodiesel can be used in diesel-powered cars, trucks and equipment, such 
as Moll's tractor mower.


Meral Sarper, a Pueblo resident who graduated last May from the 
University of Colorado at Colorado Springs with an engineering degree, 
built the processor for the co-op.


Free plans are available online to build the Appleseed Biodiesel 
Processor, she said, or kits can be purchased from a company called Utah 
Biodiesel Supply.


The base of the system is an 80-gallon water heater, which heats the 
vegetable oil. A few chemicals - methanol (found in HEET, an additive 
that keeps gas lines from freezing) and sodium hydroxide (lye) - get 
added to cause a reaction and create the end product.


Biodiesel burns cleaner than traditional diesel because of the lack of 
sulfur.


Biodiesel also is a renewable energy, originating from a plant, compared 
with diesel that's made from crude oil, a fossil fuel.


Raw vegetable oil is not a legal motor fuel; processing is needed to 
properly operate diesel-powered vehicles and equipment and not harm the 
engine and other components.


"We see it as a need," Sarper said. "There's no point in throwing away 
waste oil when you can make fuel out of it."


The co-op is a project of the Pikes Peak Justice and Peace Commission, 
which is involved with a variety of issues, including sustainability.


Sarper researched the concept while she was an intern for the 
organization, and it's taken several years to raise money and get to the 
point of brewing batches of biodiesel.


For decades, individuals here and there have made their own biodiesel, 
but locally, there hasn't been a network before.


"We thought we could be that central meeting place for all people 
interested in creating a new realm of energy," Sarper said.


The system will yield 55 gallons of biodiesel at a time. It takes about 
48 hours for one batch to brew.


A glitch in the siphoning element held up the inaugural trial batch 
recently, but it is being fixed.


The equipment is at the home of a member. Sarper said the group is 
looking for a safe space with ventilation to headquarter the operation.


A price hasn't been set for the produced biodiesel.

"We need to see how it works out," said Sarper, who works as a 
mechanical engineer at the Transportation Technology Center in Pueblo, a 
test facility of the American Association of Railroads.


But the goal is to sell the biodiesel for less than the going retail 
rate of diesel fuel, she said.


Steve Saint, associate director of the Justice and Peace Commission, 
said a permit is not needed to produce biodiesel since it is considered 
an oil.


Demand has been high, Saint said, with members chipping in money to help 
get the co-op off the ground. A crowdfunding account is set up online at 
GoFundMe.com/coloradospringsbiofuel.


"We're not going to Saudi Arabia or even Greeley - we can use waste oil 
right from here to make our own fuel," said Saint, who plans to run the 
homemade biodiesel in his Volkswagen Jetta.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel beets meetings scheduled in 3 North Dakota cities - Washington Times

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/17/biofuel-beets-meetings-scheduled-in-3-north-dakota/

Biofuel beets meetings scheduled in 3 North Dakota cities

 By - Associated Press - Tuesday, March 17, 2015

VALLEY CITY, N.D. (AP) - Backers of a proposed project in North Dakota 
that would turn sugar beets into ethanol are holding educational 
meetings in three cities this week.


KOVC radio reports that the Green Vision Group meetings are Tuesday in 
Valley City and Jamestown and Thursday in Carrington.


Beets used to produce biofuel are different from the sugar beets grown 
for human consumption. Industrial beets are genetically bred 
specifically for the making of renewable fuels and can be grown just 
about anywhere in the U.S.


The refinery process separates sugar from the beets in the form of 
juice, which is fermented and distilled into alcohol.


The Green Vision Group has been working on the project for years and is 
considering five potential sites for a plant.


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[Biofuel] Biofuel from trash could create green jobs bonanza, says report | Environment | The Guardian

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/17/biofuel-from-trash-could-create-green-jobs-bonanza-says-report

Biofuel from trash could create green jobs bonanza, says report

Arthur Neslen in Brussels

Tuesday 17 February 2015 10.26 GMT

Advanced biofuels industry could spur hundreds of thousands of jobs 
across Europe, says new report, but key European parliament vote next 
week could throw clean fuel ambitions into disarray


Creating biofuels from waste produced by industry, farms, and households 
could generate 36,000 jobs in the UK and save around 37m tonnes of oil 
use annually by 2030, according to a new report.


Across Europe, hundreds of thousands of new jobs could be created by 
using these ‘advanced biofuels’, which could replace 16% of the 
continent’s road transport fuel by the same year, the International 
Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) study said. But the gains will 
not come without ambitious policy to promote advanced biofuels, it warned.


“Alternative fuels from wastes and residues offer real and substantial 
carbon savings, even when taking account of possible indirect 
emissions,” said Chris Malins who led the analysis for ICCT . “The 
resource is available, and the technology exists – the challenge now is 
for Europe to put a policy framework in place that allows rapid investment.”


However, a key vote in the European Parliament’s environment committee 
next week could stop this potential being realised, as a centre-right 
grouping of MEPs has signalled that it will oppose a biofuels reform 
package considered crucial to the fledgling industry.


The committee will vote next Tuesday on a compromise biofuels reform 
bill that would mandate a goal of advanced biofuels providing 1.25% of 
Europe’s transport fuel by 2020.


This advanced fuel could come from woody crops, agricultural residues, 
algae or household and industrial waste. It is seen as less 
environmentally damaging than first generation biofuels produced by 
growing crops such as rapeseed, which have been criticised for 
displacing food crops and raising commodity prices.


Malins said that a mandatory advanced biofuels goal was “absolutely 
crucial” to realising the sector’s potential, as it would bring market 
certainty and long-term signals for investors.


But sources at the centre-right European People’s Party (EPP) told the 
Guardian that they were unlikely to back such a package. “We think it is 
unrealistically ambitious,” a source said. “We are not going to support 
the compromise proposal.”


The bill would also introduce criteria for assessing biofuels’ 
sustainability and set a 6% cap for the amount that first generation 
biofuel could contribute to the EU’s 2020 target of providing 10% of 
road transport fuel from low carbon sources.


Marko Janhunen, the vice-president of UPM Biorefining in Finland, said 
that parliamentary manoeuvring could risk the advanced sector’s 
potential for hi-tech job creation in rural areas.


“This is a critical moment for the advanced biofuels sector and this 
discussion is very frustrating,” he told the Guardian. “We want to see 
incentives and reasons to invest. We want to get rid of the regulatory 
uncertainty that has been surrounding the discussion.”


UPM recently opened a €175m renewable waste biorefinery that transforms 
residues from pulp into renewable diesel that can be used by cars – or 
potentially, one day, by planes. British Airways is one of several 
members of a Leaders of Sustainable Biofuels group that Janhunen also 
chairs.


“The EU has spent hundreds of millions in projects supporting the uptake 
of these technologies,” Janhunen added. “Now they are here, it is very 
important to set policies in place that enable them to be brought into 
the market.”


The current proposal has faced a tortuous journey and campaigners fear 
that even a narrow victory now will embolden east European states to 
finally bury it in the European Council.


“If the EPP votes against the compromise, there is a massive risk that 
the whole package could fall into a conciliation process, or even no 
conclusion at all,” said Nusa Urbancic, a clean energy programme manager 
at the Transport and Environment group. “This will mean continued 
negative impacts on deforestation and food prices, as well as leading 
the EU away from our climate objectives.”


The European ethanol industry association (ePURE) has thrown its weight 
behind the biofuels bill. Its secretary-general, Robert Wright, told the 
Guardian that “only a binding target will send a clear signal to 
investors that there will be a future market for advanced biofuels.”


But other industry figures were sceptical about the likelihood of 
meaningful regulation at the EU level, and about the ICCT’s analysis 
more generally.


“Studies like this have rosy assumptions that feed into rosy 
conclusions,” said Eric Sievers, the CEO of Ethanol Europe Renewables. 
“You don’t make a large capital investment in a regulatory 

[Biofuel] Biofuel Subsidies: Bad Policies, Bad Examples for Development | Center For Global Development

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.cgdev.org/blog/biofuel-subsidies-bad-policies-bad-examples-development

[links and images in on-line article]

Biofuel Subsidies: Bad Policies, Bad Examples for Development

3/5/15

Frances Seymour

If you haven’t been following debates on biofuels recently, you’ve been 
missing a lot of excitement.  Fortunately, a timely new CGD Working 
Paper by my colleague Kim Elliott provides a primer for how to think 
about these debates through the lens of development.  The bottom line is 
that biofuel subsidies in rich countries are bad for development by 
increasing the costs of food and driving tropical deforestation even 
while failing to reduce the emissions that cause climate change.  In 
addition, they set a bad example for developing countries to follow, a 
trap Indonesia is poised to fall into.  More on these below.


But first, a quick summary of legislative developments in February. 
Here in Washington, bipartisan legislation that would limit the mandate 
to blend corn-based ethanol into gasoline was introduced into both the 
House and the Senate. While such reform legislation has failed in the 
past, some observers think 2015 could be the year that a successful 
coalition comes together.


Meanwhile, across the Atlantic, the European Parliament’s Environment 
Committee voted to reduce the cap on biofuels made from food crops down 
to 6 percent.  This would limit the use of such biofuels to meet the EU 
Directive on Renewable Energy, which requires that 10 percent of 
transport fuels be based on renewable energy by 2020.

What do US and EU biofuel policies have to do with development?

Biofuel subsidies are understandably opposed by Big Oil and budget 
cutters.  But in a case of “strange bedfellows”, advocates for reform of 
US and EU policies also include groups that lobby on aid policy and 
tropical forest protection. The new CGD Working Paper by Kim Elliott 
explains why.


Biofuel mandates and subsidies were put into place in the US and the EU 
as a way of providing support to farmers facing low prices for their 
crops.  (Justifications related to climate benefits were added later.) 
These policies have been successful in meeting their original purpose of 
increasing demand:  the US mandate for corn-based ethanol and the EU 
demand for biodiesel based on oil seed feedstocks were largely 
responsible for a five-fold increase in global consumption of biofuels 
in the 2000s.


But by adding a relatively large and inelastic new source of demand for 
biofuel feedstocks at a time when commodity prices were already rising, 
biofuel policies have been associated with escalating food prices. 
Higher food prices and increased price volatility are bad for poor 
consumers everywhere, but especially for those in developing countries. 
 A recent WRI paper asserts that allocating cropland to grow feedstocks 
for biofuels poses a fundamental threat to a food secure future.[i]


Increased demand also has implications for tropical deforestation: 
higher agricultural commodity prices are the single most potent factor 
associated with increased forest loss. Diversion of 
domestically-produced food oils for use as a feedstock for biodiesel – 
including rapeseed oil in the EU and soybean oil in the United States – 
has raised the price and created new markets for imported food oils, 
especially palm oil.  This figure shows how palm oil consumption 
increased in Europe following imposition of the Renewable Energy 
Directive in 2003:


The problem is that expansion of palm oil plantations has been 
identified as a key driver of tropical deforestation, which in turn is a 
significant source of greenhouse gas emissions. As a result, in contrast 
to the stated objective of helping achieve emissions reduction targets, 
biofuel mandates can actually increase total emissions compared to the 
fossil fuels they are designed to replace. The “carbon debt” incurred 
when a carbon-rich peatland in Indonesia is converted to an oil palm 
plantation to produce biodiesel can take centuries to repay.


An increasing number of developing countries have been following the 
example of rich countries, and putting into place their own subsidies 
and mandates. Elliott’s paper reports that the number of countries that 
have established mandates to blend biofuels with gasoline or diesel, tax 
incentives, or indicative targets, rose from just 10 countries in 2005 
to more than 60 by 2013.  Even while many of these countries are not yet 
meeting new targets for biofuel production and consumption, they are 
likely succeeding in creating vested interests in maintaining these 
policies at the expense of the world’s forests and climate, as well as 
more worthy claims on limited domestic fiscal resources.

Irony in Indonesia

I find the recent news on this front from Indonesia particularly 
disheartening.  Early in his new administration, President Joko Widodo 
took advantage of low oil prices to remove the fossil fuel subsidy that 
had constra

[Biofuel] Biofuel way forward for PNG | Papua New Guinea Today

[Darryl McMahon]

http://news.pngfacts.com/2015/02/biofuel-way-forward-for-png.html

Published On:February 26, 2015

Biofuel way forward for PNG

Not everything we throw away is useless, what can be used again that is 
environmentally friendly should be utilised.


It was this idea that drove a Pacific Adventists University (PAU) 
project to turn used cooking oil into reliable bio-fuel to use on 
generators and vehicles as a substitute fuel.


Speaking during a tour of the processing facility today, Higher 
Education Minister, Malakai Tabar said such a project will still get the 
government support as it creates environmentally products that is cheap 
to produce and reliable for customer usage.


“I see this as a major area of research and I am happy to have a strong 
team lead by a professor,” Tabar said


Tabar also stressed more in doing research to get vital information to 
enable PNG excel in the future and this project is testimony of good 
research assisted by the government to come up with innovative ways to 
produce substitute fuels.


Meantime, the project has five main objectives to achieve, first is to 
promote and reduce carbon dioxide emissions, produce quality bio-diesel 
from used cooking oil, to promote an alternative bio- diesel fuel used 
by diesel vehicle, register approved bio- diesel standard with NISIT and 
contribute to the development of bio- diesel policies.


The project takes used cooking oil from hotels in the city and processed 
at the campus.


Currently, they’re only using it on vehicles on campus as an experiment; 
future expansion of the project will depend on the fuel passing 
international standards first.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel from rice :: Industry News :: Lab+Life Scientist

[Darryl McMahon]

http://lifescientist.com.au/content/biotechnology/news/biofuel-from-rice-772433559

[links in on-line article]

Biofuel from rice

By Life Scientist Staff   |   Posted in Agbiotech on 03 February, 2015

An efficient method for producing biofuel and animal feed from the same 
rice crop on farms has been developed by Japanese researchers.


Called ‘solid-state fermentation’, it involves packing whole rice plants 
into bales and adding yeast and enzymes to generate ethanol. The fuel is 
then drained off, leaving the plant matter to be used as animal fodder - 
all without the need for off-site processing.


The method shows the practical potential of an alternative to fossil 
fuels that does not displace food production, which has happened with 
‘first-generation’ biofuels such as corn and sugarcane-based ethanol.


The fermentation of non-food sources such as straw and wood, so-called 
‘second-generation’ biofuels, has been promoted as a promising 
alternative, but also has its limitations.


“Generally, the bottlenecks in second-generation biofuel production 
include the need for large facilities, bulky material transport and 
complicated treatment processes, all of which are costly and consume a 
great deal of energy,” said Mitsuo Horita from the National Institute 
for Agro-Environmental Sciences in Japan.


“What we’ve now demonstrated is a complete and scaled-up system which 
shows its potential in a practical on-farm situation … our system simply 
builds upon traditional processes already used by farmers for producing 
silage for animal feed. It results in a high yield of ethanol while 
producing good quality feed, with zero waste.”


Although the system Horita and colleagues developed requires a 
relatively long six months for fermentation, no energy needs to be supplied.


A vacuum distiller facilitated the extraction of 86% of the ethanol that 
accumulated in each bale or up to 12.4 kg of pure ethanol per bale - 10 
times more ethanol than would result from natural silage production.


The ethanol also contained no insoluble particles and could therefore be 
easily dehydrated and concentrated for use as automotive fuel.


The remaining bale material was comparable to normal silage for animal 
feed, containing a similar amount of lactic acid and sugars, and high 
crude protein content.


Further studies are required, but the research shows the potential for 
complementary food and biofuel production at a local level by individual 
farmers, providing sustainable biofuel production and circumventing 
issues related to land-use competition.


The research has been published in Biotechnology for Biofuels.
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[Biofuel] Biofuel from unmarketable oranges | Tempo - News in a Flash

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.tempo.com.ph/2015/01/biofuel-from-unmarketable-oranges/

Biofuel from unmarketable oranges

Posted by Floro Mercene on Jan 5th, 2015

The town of Mihama in Mie Prefecture, Japan, is known as “the town where 
you can pick Mikan (Mandarin oranges) all year long. The mikan is the 
most popular fruit in winter in Japan. It has particularly delicate 
flesh, which cannot withstand the effects of careless handling.


Researchers in Mie University have been experimenting on the possible 
use of damaged and rotting mandarin oranges as well as its waste left 
over after making juice. The team reported recently that they have 
developed a biofuel which is a more efficient and less-corrosive fuel 
blend than existing bioethanol.


According to Yutaka Tamaru, professor at the university’s Graduate 
School, main stream bioethanol is made from crops such as corn and sugar 
cane. But one drawback to this type of bioethanol is that it tends to 
corrode the metal parts of the vehicle since it is prone to combining 
with moisture in the air in the distribution process. Due to this 
reason, the mixture of bioethanol in the gas has to be limited to about 
3 percent of the total. The orange biofuel is not as corrosive as 
bioethanol since 70 percent of its components are biobutanol, which does 
not mix with moisture easily.


Under the experiment, they mixed clostridium cellulovorans, a 
microorganism isolated from wood chips, in a tank together with oranges. 
Clostridium cellulovorans decomposes cellulose fibers, a main component 
of plant fibers, and efficiently produces fermentable sugar. If this 
sugar is fermented with another microorganism added, it produces orange 
biofuel in about 10 days.


The team was able to extract around 20 milliliters of the biofuel from 3 
kg of waste and discarded oranges. This biofuel has the potential to be 
used for gasoline-powered farm tractors and mowers.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel for Humans

[robert and benita rabello]

I've been working in a greenhouse for most of the summer. It's hard, 
back-breaking labor in a hot and humid environment. I've ruined five 
shirts and three pairs of shorts. My shoes are so disgusting I leave 
them outside. Many of the people who work around me struggle to speak 
English, and some of them I can't understand at all. At the end of the 
day I'm often utterly exhausted, too.


But it's THE BEST summer job I've ever had!

The greenhouse where I work grows organic, heirloom tomatoes in soil -- 
the only one of its kind in Canada west of Saskatchewan. Mind you, as 
far as I'm concerned the texture of a tomato is equivalent to that of a 
human lip, and I hate both the flavor and the smell of the fruit. There 
is, however, something different about growing food in soil. Even when I 
have to collect the rotten ones, they don't stink as badly as do the 
ordinary ones I find in the supermarket.


I've made several interesting observations since I began working there.

1) The best way to gain respect from the migrant workers is to work as 
hard as they do. These men and women aren't looking for handouts. They 
sweat and strain to produce the food we eat, often under a hot sun, for 
long hours.  (It's been as warm as 42 degrees in that greenhouse for 
days on end this summer!) Think about that next time you go into a 
grocery store. Every piece of fruit you see has been handled by a long 
line of (mostly dark-skinned) people who labored to get it to you.


2) In general, wealthy white-skinned people like me think this kind of 
work is beneath them. We've had unemployed folk who look like me coming 
to the greenhouse for jobs, but they don't last for more than a day. 
Weeding, pruning plants, cleaning fruit and packing is a mind-numbing 
task for many people. We can't get enough workers for the amount of 
labor that needs to be done. Think about that next time you hear someone 
complaining about immigration.


3) Growing organically IS different from conventional agriculture. 
Aggressive weed management, pruning and pest control are the main ways 
to control losses that are typically done by spraying nasty chemicals in 
conventional agriculture. It's far more labor intensive, and because 
labor isn't subsidized, this food costs more to produce. But it's of 
higher quality, it tastes better, and it's likely much better for you.


4) This summer in the Pacific Northwest has been the hottest on record. 
A local meteorologist commented that the temperature and rainfall 
patterns for this summer are equivalent to what the computer models 
predicted 30 - 50 years from now. The same trend of high pressure over 
western North America and low pressure over the eastern regions of the 
continent that brought frigid temperatures to the eastern seaboard last 
winter have persisted. California is facing a horrendous drought, and 
our rainfall has been far below normal. I suspect we've been too 
conservative in our predictions for the impact of global climate change.


5) No matter WHAT the GMO advocates contend, the problem with 
agriculture is surplus, not scarcity. We're producing so much fruit in 
our greenhouse, nearly 500 kilos is going rotten PER DAY right now. 
There is no market for this abundance of fresh produce. It's very 
discouraging to throw out food when I know that people elsewhere are 
going hungry. There's a dehydrator in the works, but that's a really 
expensive and long-term solution. I spent more than an hour today trying 
to find a charity who had room for our "seconds." I dropped off more 
than 100 kilos of fruit to a local group who feeds low income families 
in our town.


Food for thought, for certain!

--
Robert Luis Rabello
Adventure for Your Mind
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[Biofuel] Biofuel-powered golf carts to be used at UN SIDS conference in bid to show potential of alternative fuel - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-25/biogas-golf-carts-used-at-samoa-sids-conference/5694778

[In this context, SIDS is Small Island Developing States - generally the 
countries most likely to disappear due to sea level rise resulting from 
climate change.]


Biofuel-powered golf carts to be used at UN SIDS conference in bid to 
show potential of alternative fuel


Updated 25 Aug 2014, 4:16pmMon 25 Aug 2014, 4:16pm

Delegates to the United Nation's Small Island Developing States (SIDS) 
conference in Samoa next month will be getting around on biofuel-powered 
golf carts, in a bid to show regional leaders the potential of 
alternative fuel.


The 15 six-seater electric carts will be powered by biofuel made from 
kitchen and garden rubbish, as well as leaves and manure from cattle farms.


Assistant chief executive of the Samoan government's Renewable Energy 
Division Sala Sagato said biofuel could be an inexpensive and cleaner 
alternative to imported petrol across the Pacific.


"It's very important to consider other alternatives of fuel for the 
transport sector," he told Pacific Beat.


"We have so much biomass lying around and organic waste lying around 
that we can generate those into usable gas that we'd be able to generate 
electricity."


A number of biogas digesters have been installed around the SIDS village 
to demonstrate how the technology can be applied in Pacific island nations.


Most of Samoa's power is generated from imported petroleum products - 
similar to most Pacific nations.


Samoa currently imports up to 100 million litres of petrol per year, 45 
per cent of which is used for transport.


Close to 70 per cent of the nation's power is generated using imported 
petrol in diesel-fuelled generators.


The golf carts are part of a larger scheme to develop biogas energy 
systems across the country, with more biofuel power generators and 
biodiesel vehicles.


Biogas electricity has been used by a number of households in Piu 
village for the past year, and the government is now looking to build 
and operate a 40-kilowatt power station in the village.


The project is being funded by the Denmark government through the UN 
Development Program.

Turning weeds into fuel

The project also serves to fight the invasive Merremia vine, a weed that 
has destroyed more than 60 per cent of the country's forests, by turning 
it into fuel.


"The Merremia vine is quite huge and has become a real problem for the 
forest so this is like a mechanism to remove the vine and generate into 
a useful project by producing biogas," Mr Sagato said.


"We're trying to encourage communities to remove invasive vines. These 
have become very bad for the islands and the forest and it's the same 
problem with other Pacific nations.


"We're looking at an integrated approach using innovative technology 
that is more environmentally friendly."

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[Biofuel] Biofuel concerns aren’t justified

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.agweek.com/event/article/id/22909/

Published March 17, 2014, 09:46 AM

Biofuel concerns aren’t justified

Bemidji’s school buses performance during this winter’s harsh weather 
raised some concerns about biodiesel, and the Minnesota’s plans to 
increase the required biodiesel blend from the current 5 percent blend 
(B5) to 10 percent (B10) this summer.


By: Robert Moffitt, Agweek

Bemidji’s school buses performance during this winter’s harsh weather 
raised some concerns about biodiesel, and the Minnesota’s plans to 
increase the required biodiesel blend from the current 5 percent blend 
(B5) to 10 percent (B10) this summer.


First, the state law clearly specifies that B10 will be sold only during 
the warm-weather months. In the winter, it’s back to the same B5 blend 
that virtually all diesel vehicles used during this record-breaking cold 
winter without problem. So, any concerns that biodiesel might gel in 
winter temperatures are unfounded.


Another concern raised was about bacterial growth in fuel storage tanks. 
This isn’t just a Minnesota problem; it’s a problem in many other 
states. It has nothing to do with biodiesel or diesel fuel — the problem 
is water.


In 2006, the federal government required all diesel fuel to be ultra-low 
sulfur to reduce the risk of acid rain. But, that sulfur acted as an 
antibiotic agent in the fuel, and its removal caused some unanticipated 
issues with microbe growth when the tanks contained enough water for the 
bacteria to grow. Again, this happens for both biodiesel blends and 
traditional diesel fuels. Fortunately, there are some simple solutions 
and practices to eliminate this problem.


Minnesota literally wrote the book on handling and storing biodiesel in 
cold weather. We have the technical expertise and real-world experience 
to make the B5 to B10 transition smooth and free of drama. Switching to 
an advanced biofuel that is cleaner-burning, locally produced and 
performs just as well as petroleum diesel is a win for all Minnesotans.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel and biomass 'sustainability standards' are pure greenwash - Comment - The Ecologist

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2305634/biofuel_and_biomass_sustainability_standards_are_pure_greenwash.html

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Biofuel and biomass 'sustainability standards' are pure greenwash

Almuth Ernsting

10th March 2014
Who and what are biofuel sustainability standards designed to benefit? 
They are meant to safeguard forests and communities, writes Almuth 
Ernsting - but their real purpose is to protect the biofuel industry ...


Sustainability standards are our Government's and the EU's answer to any 
critique of their subsidies and incentives for industrial biomass and 
biofuels. Energy companies tend to like them, too.


Rainforests being cut down for palm oil biofuels? No worries - EU 
biofuel standards don't allow any support for biofuel crops grown on 
recently deforested land.


Slow-growing trees being cut down for pellets to be burned in power 
stations, pumping even more carbon into the atmosphere than burning coal 
instead would do? No cause for concern: from next year, subsidies will 
only be paid if biomass reduces carbon emissions by at least 60% 
compared to coal.


Don't worry, it's all 'sustainable'

Drax getting pellets from a company that makes them out of clearcut 
ancient swamp forests in the southern US? Well, Drax's policy says it's 
all sustainable.


Better still, from next April, they'll even need to prove it complies 
with some voluntary certification scheme or another, regardless of 
whether it actually has been certified.


Small farmers being evicted for our biofuels? Hmm, that would come under 
social standards and the EU hasn't actually introduced any of these.


Don't worry though - there's a good chance the biofuels will certified 
through some voluntary scheme which says people shouldn't be evicted.


Carbon standard? Any wood will do ...

EU biofuel sustainability and greenhouse gas standards were introduced 
in the UK in 2011 and the Government has proposed biomass standards from 
April 2015 - although they have so far delayed introducing them twice.


Both biofuel and proposed biomass standards have been heavily criticised 
as inadequate: Both ignore all indirect impacts; those for biomass 
ignore the carbon emissions from cutting down and burning trees and the 
length of time it takes for new trees to possibly re-absorb that carbon; 
biofuel standards entirely ignore human rights and the right to land, 
food and water.


As for the proposed biomass sustainability standards, all they say is 
that wood must meet the criteria of one of several controversial 
voluntary certification schemes, not even requiring formal certification.


Additionally, carbon standards are proposed, but those ignore most of 
the carbon emissions associated with biomass burning. The Government's 
impact assessment expects wood from absolutely any source to meet those 
standards.


A remarkable admission

In theory - and with the right political will - much stricter and more 
comprehensive standards could be introduced, though European NGOs have 
been campaigning in vain for years to get biofuel standards amended so 
as to take indirect land use change into account.


But would stricter standards really keep destructive biofuels and 
biomass out of the country? Or are there deeper problems with the 
concept of standards?


Hidden away in a recent Government consultation about the impacts of the 
UK's biofuel mandates and standards - the Renewable Transport Fuel 
Obligation (RTFO) - is a very striking admission:


"Following RED [EU Renewable Energy Directive - which includes 
biofuel-related targets and standards] implementation the Administrator 
noted that the volumes of used cooking oil (UCO) derived biofuel being 
reported as coming from the Netherlands were implausibly high based on 
the population size."


An obvious explanation - fraud

In other words, companies had declared using vast quantities of Dutch 
used cooking oil in biofuels and it would have been quite impossible for 
Dutch people to eat enough chips to end up with that much waste 
vegetable oil.


So what they declared to be "used cooking oil from the Netherlands" must 
have been something else - for all we know, it may have been palm oil 
from clearcut Indonesian rainforests.


The background to this scam is that since 2011, biofuels from waste have 
counted double towards biofuel targets, so using - or claiming to use - 
these has become more profitable.


If companies had planned this fraud a bit better they could have classed 
their biofuels as used cooking oil from many different countries rather 
than just from one small one - then no questions would have been asked.


But who's bothered?

Not that any company has been penalised for lying about biofuel 
supplies. And this leads back to one of the most fundamental problems 
with such standards.


Companies love standards because they are a market mechanism, not 
regulation. This means there is no independent authori

[Biofuel] Biofuel Progress without Enzymes

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.earthtimes.org/energy/biofuel-progress-enzymes/2346/

Biofuel Progress without Enzymes

By Dave Armstrong Dave Armstrong - 10 May 2013 12:21:30 GMT

While sugar is the source of most biofuels, getting it is rated as the 
key set of reactions that can bring down the cost of advanced biofuels, 
closer to that of the dangerous (to the environment) petrofuels. In the 
US, one of the key labs in renewable energy research generally is the 
Lawrence Berkeley Lab. On cue, they have just released data which leads 
us to the conclusion that they've cracked this problem, using 
agricultural waste they refer to as cellulosic biomass.


Blake Simmons is the Head of the Deconstruction Division of the Joint 
BioEnergy Institute and explains that they use acid as a catalyst 
instead of enzymes. Sugars are released from lignocellulosic sources. 
The lignin rich ionic liquid is used only for recycling while the sugar 
rich water phase can be used directly. This also demands much less water 
during the process. Ning Sun is the lead author on several papers, shown 
here demonstrating for us the ionic liquids themselves. Her current 
paper in, "Biotechnology for Biofuels," is titled, "Production and 
extraction of sugars from switchgrass hydrolyzed in ionic liquids."


While 9 million metric tons of CO2 are added to our atmosphere every 
year, nobody can relax in the quest for carbon neutral energy sources. 
Fermenting sugars stretch back to the days when VW cars in Brazil were 
run on alcohol from sugar cane. Advanced biofuels are designed to cut 
out the carbon emissions. Using imidazolium chloride and an acid 
catalyst, Blake and his team have simplified the extraction of 
fermentable sugars. By adding sodium hydroxide, the ionic liquid could 
be recovered with the lignin, leaving 54% glucose and 88% xylose sugars. 
All that's needed now is the scaling up process for industrial level 
production and some tweaking of optimal conditions.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel And Body Armor—All From A Newly Engineered Algae

[Darryl McMahon]

http://www.fastcoexist.com/1681815/biofuel-and-body-armor-all-from-a-newly-engineered-algae

Biofuel And Body Armor—All From A Newly Engineered Algae

Nanocellulose is a miracle material that’s both incredibly hard but also 
an excellent fuel. And now we’ve created some algae to make it for us in 
bulk.


Scientists have long seen the potential in nanocellulose--a material 
whose strength and stiffness make it ideal for use in everything from 
lightweight armor to support structures for organs during transplants, 
as well as a raw material for biofuel. But the problem has always been 
that it’s hard to come by: only a few kinds of bacteria are able to 
secrete the stuff, and usually in small, unstable amounts.


But at the American Chemical Society’s annual conference, held earlier 
this month, researchers announced that they’re at the point where 
they’re ready to start making nanocellulose in larger amounts--by using 
a genetically engineered blue-green algae that only needs sunlight and 
water as fuel, while simultaneously removing carbon dioxide from the air.


"If we can complete the final steps, we will have accomplished one of 
the most important potential agricultural transformations ever," R. 
Malcolm Brown, Jr., the lead researcher said in a press release. "We 
will have plants that produce nanocellulose abundantly and 
inexpensively. It can become the raw material for sustainable production 
of biofuels and many other products."


The breakthrough came when Brown’s team figured out how to merge the 
best attributes from the two most promising sources of nanocellulose: 
the algae (called cyanobacteria) and another bacterium (called A. 
xylinum), which is able to link nanocellulose molecules together and 
crystalize them into stable chains. Through genetic engineering, they 
were able to pull out A. xylinum’s best characteristics and invest the 
blue-green algae with them.


Now, Brown and his team are scaling up their operations, taking the 
algae-farming from a lab to outdoor facilities. But significantly, they 
may have bigger challenges to overcome than just the science before 
nanocellulose production can truly develop: The current low price of 
fracked natural gas. As long as that’s available, it might take a while 
before investment in this new material really begins in earnest.




[At our lake, the blue-green algae is the indicator of the toxic kind. 
So, making a more virulent version that will escape into the wild is 
apparently the solution to something.  What could go wrong?  I mean, 
other than killing all other life in our lakes and oceans.]

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[Biofuel] Biofuel firms' pererverance set to pay off

[Darryl McMahon]

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-04-05-00-biofuel-firms-perseverence-set-to-pay-off/

Biofuel firms' perseverance set to pay off

05 Apr 2013 00:00 - Teigue Payne

The announcement of the construction of two factories producing 
bioethanol from sorghum, costing about R1.6-billion each, appears to be 
imminent.




The projects, which will usher in the first large-scale production of 
bioethanol in South Africa after many years of preparation, will follow 
expected government announcements of the date from which admixture of 
biofuels to "normal fuels" will become law, as well as the regulated 
prices for those biofuels.


One of the bioethanol factories will be at Bothaville in North West 
province, the other at Cradock in the Eastern Cape.


Also expected this year is the announcement that two large plants to 
produce biodiesel from canola and soya will be constructed at Coega. The 
canola plant is projected to cost R4.2-billion and the soya plant 
R2.3-billion. The canola plant will produce biodiesel initially for 
export to the European Union, although it is later likely to be expanded 
to supplying fuel to South Africa. The soya plant will be fully directed 
at supplying the South African fuel market.


At least 15 000 new jobs are likely to be created by each of the new 
plants, resulting in a total of about 60 000 jobs, primarily because of 
the consequent major expansion of South African sorghum, canola and soya 
crop production. Unlike previous plans for biofuels production, the 
feedstock crops planned will obviate concerns about food security. In 
fact, the projects will increase South Africa's production of food 
commodities. High volumes of sorghum, soya and canola will be produced. 
In sorghum's case, at least, it will be from largely dry ground, which 
is currently fallow.


And in all three cases, a big by-product will be oilcake, used for 
protein animal feed, which is largely imported currently. Arguably, in 
the case of soya, this by-product will be the primary product and oil 
for biodiesel will be the by-product.


But in all cases, the oilcake will increase food security because less 
will have to be imported and there will be more animal feed.


In August last year, after years of delay, the energy department 
announced the minimum levels of bioethanol and biodiesel fuel suppliers 
will in future be obliged to buy along with their "normal" fuel — 2% for 
bioethanol blending in petrol and 5% for biodiesel blending in diesel. 
But the August announcement was half of what was required by the nascent 
South African biofuels industry to go ahead with projects.


Still required, especially by financiers, is the "effective date" from 
which mandatory blending of bioethanol and biodiesel will be legally 
required and the regulated price formula applicable. The big fuel 
refiners will not do the blending voluntarily.


The biofuels industry has been waiting for years for government 
certainty on these aspects and because of the delay a number of projects 
that would have created many jobs have been abandoned.


Only the two large bioethanol projects (in Bothaville and Cradock) and 
the two large biodiesel projects (both at Coega) apparently survive. 
Some observers say that the government is now in a hurry to go ahead 
with the biofuels programme because it is a good way to promise 
substantial job creation ahead of an election. Accordingly, they expect 
the announcement of the "effective date" and the final price and 
return-on-asset formula arrangements to be made within the next month. 
Throughout the world, biofuels projects are supported by governments 
through subsidies, tariff protection or otherwise. Government 
involvement in the South African industry would therefore not be unusual.


In the national budget in February, it was revealed that the government 
would institute a return on assets price-support model for biofuel 
plants to ameliorate variations in input costs (for instance of sorghum) 
and revenues. In this model, hypothetical bioethanol and biodiesel 
plants are used for reference and subsidies are provided to actual 
producers whether they underperform or outperform the hypothetical 
plants' returns. This is a similar system to that used to create Sasol 
and goes a long way to "de-risking" the industry, according to some 
observers.


Biodiesel
The $250-million (R2.3-billion) soya project at Coega, by Rainbow Nation 
Renewable Fuels (RNRF), an offshoot of National Biofuels Group of 
Australia, was well ahead of the rest in 2008, having already achieved 
its environmental impact assessment approval and a 
production/manufacture licence for its 40-hectare site in Coega. But the 
global financial crisis resulted in the withdrawal of the major 
shareholder, AIG insurance company of the United States, after it was 
bailed out by the US government. Thereafter, regulatory uncertainty in 
South Africa was a further delay and the project was put into 
"hibernation" last year, accordi

Re: [Biofuel] {Biofuel] Solar, Wind & other Alternatives

[Tony]

Likewise Zeke it should be enlightening
to see a comparison

Tony



At 05:20 PM 11/08/2012 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks.  I'll look forward to your review.
>
>Curt
>On 8/10/2012 9:54 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> > Not theirs, but I have an order from Iron Edison, the one in Lakewood, CO,
> > coming in two weeks that I'll be installing I'll try to remember to
> > post how well they work once I have a little experience with them.
> >
> > Z
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Re: [Biofuel] {Biofuel] Solar, Wind & other Alternatives

[Curt]

Thanks.  I'll look forward to your review.

Curt
On 8/10/2012 9:54 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> Not theirs, but I have an order from Iron Edison, the one in Lakewood, CO,
> coming in two weeks that I'll be installing I'll try to remember to
> post how well they work once I have a little experience with them.
>
> Z
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Curt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> There is a company in Montana making Nickel-Iron (Edison) batteries.
>> Has anyone had any experience with them/their products? Here's a link to
>> their site:
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>> http://zappworks.com/index.htm
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>> Curt
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Re: [Biofuel] {Biofuel] Solar, Wind & other Alternatives

[Zeke Yewdall]

Not theirs, but I have an order from Iron Edison, the one in Lakewood, CO,
coming in two weeks that I'll be installing I'll try to remember to
post how well they work once I have a little experience with them.

Z

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Curt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is a company in Montana making Nickel-Iron (Edison) batteries.
> Has anyone had any experience with them/their products? Here's a link to
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Re: [Biofuel] {Biofuel] Solar, Wind & other Alternatives

[Curt]

There is a company in Montana making Nickel-Iron (Edison) batteries.  
Has anyone had any experience with them/their products? Here's a link to 
their site:

http://zappworks.com/index.htm

Curt



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[Biofuel] Biofuel Delusions

[Keith Addison]

See also:

How much fuel can we grow? How much land will it take?
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#howmuch

"Small is beautifuel" - Pannirselvam

--0--

http://www.counterpunch.org/bryce12312010.html

New Year's Edition

December 31, 2010 - January 2, 2011

Thomas Freidman's Folly

Biofuel Delusions

By ROBERT BRYCE

Debunking the tsunami of hype about biofuels doesn't require much. A 
standard calculator will do. Alas, Thomas Friedman can't be bothered 
to do the handful of simple calculations that prove the futility of 
the biofuels madness.

In a recent piece, the New York Times columnist and best-selling 
author praised the Navy and Marines for, as he put it "building a 
strategy for 'out-greening' Al Qaeda, 'out-greening' the Taliban and 
'out-greening' the world's petro-dictators."

Hmm. I've never heard of Taliban fighters using tanks or F-15s. And 
if Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda operatives are worrying about the 
size of their carbon footprints, that revelation might eclipse the 
latest news about Lady Gaga - at least for a few hours.

Nevertheless, Friedman reports that the military is planning to "run 
its ships on nuclear energy, biofuels and hybrid engines, and fly its 
jets with bio-fuels." Friedman goes on to say that the brass at the 
Pentagon is only pursuing "third generation" biofuels made from algae 
and non-food sources. But here's the reality: the commercial 
viability of advanced biofuels is a lot like the Easter Bunny and the 
Tooth Fairy: lots of people believe in it but no one ever sees it.

To be sure, the logisticians at the Pentagon know that the US 
military's profligate use of oil on the battlefield is a strategic 
liability. And while it's obvious that the Defense Department could - 
given its nearly $700 billion in annual spending -- make significant 
contributions in the development of new energy technologies, those 
advances are unlikely to happen on the biofuels front.

For decades, various pundits have been proclaiming that biofuels will 
displace our need for oil. Back in 1976, energy analyst Amory Lovins, 
a darling of the Green/Left, wrote a piece for Foreign Affairs in 
which he said that there are "exciting developments in the conversion 
of agricultural, forestry and urban wastes to methanol and other 
liquid and gaseous fuels." He went on, saying that those fuels "now 
offer practical, economically interesting technologies sufficient to 
run an efficient U.S. transport sector."

Today, 34 years after Lovins said that biofuels "now offer" the 
ability to run the transport sector, biofuels remain little more than 
a sinkhole for taxpayer dollars. According to the Congressional 
Budget Office, producing enough corn ethanol to match the energy 
contained in a single gallon of conventional gasoline costs taxpayers 
$1.78. Even with those subsidies, which total about $7 billion per 
year, corn ethanol still only provides about 3 percent of America's 
oil needs. And by mandating the consumption of ethanol, Congress has 
created an industry that now gobbles up about one-third of America's 
corn crop.

Those numbers are germane to Friedman's claim that biofuels will be 
an essential part of the DOD's new "green" future. The Pulitzer 
Prize-winning columnist lauded the Navy for its experiments with jet 
fuel derived from camellina, a plant in the mustard family. In April, 
the Navy flew an F-18 using a mixture of conventional jet fuel and 
camellina-based fuel. The cost of that biofuel: about $67.50 per 
gallon.

The fundamental problem with using plants to make liquid motor fuel 
isn't want-to, it's physics. We pump oil out of the earth because of 
its high energy density. That is it contains lots of stored chemical 
energy by both weight and volume. Camellina, like switchgrass, and 
nearly every other plant-based feedstock now being considered for 
"advanced" biofuel production, has low energy density. Thus, in order 
to produce a significant quantity of liquid fuels that have high 
energy density - such as jet fuel, diesel, or gasoline -- from those 
plants, you need Bunyanesque quantities of the stuff.

Friedman would have understood that had he done a bit of math on 
soybean-based biodiesel. The US produces about 3.2 billion bushels of 
soybeans per year and each bushel can be processed into about 1.5 
gallons of biodiesel. Thus, if it made sense to do so, we could 
convert all US soybean production into diesel with total output of 
about 4.8 billion gallons.

How much fuel is that? By Pentagon standards, it's not much. In 2008, 
the DOD consumed 132.5 million barrels of oil products, or about 5.5 
billion gallons. Put another way, even the US decided to convert  all 
of its soybean production into motor fuel, doing so would only 
provide about 87 percent of the Pentagon's total oil needs.

Tim Searchinger, a research scholar at Princeton University's Woodrow 
Wilson School who has written extensively about the problems with 
biofuels, says that biofuels d

[Biofuel] Biofuel plan will cause rise in carbon emissions

[Keith Addison]

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/biofuel-plan-will-cause-rise-in-carbon-emissions-2129773.html

Biofuel plan will cause rise in carbon emissions

By Oliver Wright, Whitehall Editor

Wednesday, 10 November 2010

Britain's promise to more than double its use of biofuels by 2020 is 
"significantly" adding to worldwide carbon emissions, the Government 
admitted yesterday. Britain is signed up to a European guarantee to 
source 10 per cent of its transport fuel from renewable sources, such 
as biofuels, within the next 10 years.

But ministers have said that the policy is proving counter-productive 
and the greenhouse emissions associated with biofuels are 
substantially greater than the savings. They are now urging the 
European Commission to rethink the plan. The admission coincides with 
a major study published this week which concludes that biofuels will 
create an extra 56 million tons of CO2 per year - the equivalent of 
12 to 26 million cars on Europe's roads by 2020.

This is because Europe will need to cultivate an area somewhere 
between the size of Belgium and the Republic of Ireland with biofuels 
to meet the target, which can only be done through land conversion - 
and more controversially, deforestation. The work will be on such a 
scale that the carbon released from the vegetation, trees and soil 
will be far greater than those given off by fossil fuels they are 
designed to replace.

The study, from the Institute for European Environmental Policy, 
found that far from being 35 to 50 per cent less polluting, as 
required by the European Directive, the extra biofuels will be twice 
as bad for the environment.

First generation biofuels, made from crops such as oilseed rape, 
sugar cane and palms , were once considered a solution to burning 
fossil fuels. Such crops, it was argued, would give off the same 
amount of carbon as they had absorbed when growing - making their use 
carbon neutral and a key component in reducing global emissions.

Last year Britain signed up to a European Union directive compelling 
the country to use biofuels to provide 10 per cent of total energy in 
transport by 2020, as part of a National Renewable Energy Action 
Plan. But since then, a growing body of scientific evidence has 
suggested that far from reducing emissions, biofuels may be 
increasing them.

There is not enough cultivatable land available to grow them in 
Europe, so forests in South America and Asia are being destroyed to 
meet European demand. Although under European rules biofuels cannot 
be bought from "new" agricultural lands such as these, biofuel 
businesses have got around this by buying up existing land. Forests 
are then cut down to make up for the loss of agriculture - a trick 
known as Indirect Land Use Change (ILUC).

Almost all biofuels used in the UK come from sources outside the EU, 
and the UK is anticipated to be the largest single importer from 
outside the community in order to reach its targets. In its response 
to a European consultation on biofuels published yesterday on the 
Department of Transport's website, the Government said it was time to 
reassess the policy.

"We consider that the results of the analytical work are compelling 
in showing that the greenhouse gas emissions from [ILUC] are 
significant compared to the potential emissions savings from biofuel 
use. The precise scale is uncertain, [but] this uncertainty cannot be 
ignored and, as with other aspects of climate change, cannot be a 
justification for inaction," the statement said.

Environmental charities have long argued that the European Union 
needs to rethink the target. Last night they welcomed the 
Government's move.

Tim Rice, ActionAid's biofuels policy advisor, said: "It's welcome 
that the Government recognises that greenhouse gas emissions from 
indirect land use change are significant. But now it must urge the 
European Commission to make sure that this compelling evidence is 
factored into new legislation."

Sir John Harman, chair of the Institute for European Environmental 
Policy and a former head of the Environment Agency, said the extent 
of the biofuels problem was now clear.

"What our report found was for European member states to meet their 
recently published plans on biofuels, they would have to cultivate an 
area somewhere between the size of Belgium and the Republic of 
Ireland. This is not viable and will result in a big Indirect Land 
Use Change outside the EU," he said.

Last night the Transport Minister Norman Baker said the Government 
was pushing the European Commission to take action to reduce the risk 
that producing biofuels will have knock-on effects including 
deforestation.

"Like other EU member states, the UK is required to source 10 per 
cent of its transport energy from renewable sources by 2020, however 
I agree that the environmental benefits of biofuels can only be 
realised if they are produced in a sustainable way."

Case study: Brazil

Since 2004, 

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel crops: Europe calls for screening

[Keith Addison]

Prof. Pagandai Pannirselvam put it best: "Small is beautifuel," he 
said. Big is Agrofuel, not beautifuel. (Same as food.)

The Biofuel list has had that view for a long time. Steve Spence 
posted a message in July 2001 saying "I have a niggling feeling that 
10 years from now, the environmentalists will be fighting the ethanol 
industry tooth and nail. Anything can be done badly, and I expect the 
ADM's of the world will be successful in turning a clean renewable 
resource into a dirty unsustainable one..."

His timing was out though, it was only three years later that George 
Monbiot started railing in the Guardian against the evils of biofuels 
- worse than fossil fuels, he wrote: "The adoption of biofuels would 
be a humanitarian and environmental disaster."

But Monbiot didn't really see the difference between big and small. 
He did say some patronising things about people making their own 
biodiesel for their own use: "Before I go any further, I should make 
it clear that turning used chip fat [WVO] into motor fuel is a good 
thing. The people slithering around all day in vats of filth are 
perfoming a service to society. But there is enough waste cooking oil 
in the UK to meet one 380th of our demand for road transport fuel. 
Beyond that, the trouble begins."
<http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005/12/06/worse-than-fossil-fuel/>

Well, we make biodiesel, but we haven't done any slithering around 
all day in vats of filth. That aside, George missed the main point, 
IMO. The rainforest destruction and displacement of local farmers 
being caused by biofuels expansion was happening anyway, that's just 
business-as-usual for industrial agriculture, big biofuels just makes 
it worse. Not beautifuel, and not climate-friendly.

 From a previous message: "If you just swap fuels instead of changing 
the entire disaster you'll end up with wall-to-wall industrialized 
monocrops of GMO soy and canola. Big Biofuels may not turn out to be 
much better than Big Oil. Silly thing about it is that industrialized 
monocropping of biofuels crops is just as fossil-fuel-dependent as 
industrialized monocropping of anything else is. What's the use of 
finding a cure for cancer if it gives you a heart attack?"

Small-scale, local, Appropriate Technology production of biofuels is 
a different matter. DIY biodieselers in just about every country are 
making and using millions of gallons of green fuel a year, nobody 
knows quite how much, and indeed it is a service to society. But not 
to ExxonMobil.

Returning to George Monbiot, this is a red herring: "But there is 
enough waste cooking oil in the UK to meet one 380th of our demand 
for road transport fuel." And? So what? See: "How much fuel can we 
grow? How much land will it take?" 
<http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#howmuch>

George got his conclusion right though: "Trying to meet a rising 
demand for fuel is madness, wherever the fuel might come from."

Quite so. Time to stop guzzling.

It hasn't stopped yet though. Meanwhile, the more harassment the 
better. "Invasive" is a good description.

Best

Keith


>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:12:17 -0800 (PST)
>From: Sustainable Bioenergy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel crops: Europe calls for screening
>
>Biofuel crops: Europe calls for urgent screening
>'Invasive' biofuel crops require monitoring and mitigation measures
>
>Biofuel crops will impact on species biodiversity and natural 
>ecosystems unless tightly controlled, says a panel of European 
>experts.
>In late 2009, the 'Standing Committee of the Council of Europe 
>Convention on the Conservation of European Wildlife and Natural 
>Habitats' (known as the Bern Convention) adopted a recommendation on 
>potentially invasive alien plants being used as biofuel crops 
>(Recommendation 141, 2009). They warn that some biofuel crops are 
>able to escape as pests, and in so doing impact on native 
>biodiversity. As rural communities plan to grow more biofuel crops, 
>the likelihood of new and harmful 'invasions' will increase apace.
>Therefore the Council of Europe made recommendations, which are 
>legally binding on member states:
>1. Avoid the use of biofuel crops already recognised as invasive;
>2. Carry out risk assessments for new species and genotypes;
>3. Monitor the spread of biofuel crops into natural habitats and 
>their effects on native species;
>4. Mitigate the spread and impact on native biodiversity wherever 
>biofuel crops escape cultivation.
>These measures were prompted by a report submitted by ISPRA (the 
>Italian Institute for Environmental Protection and Research, an 
>agency of the Italian Ministry for the Environment) to the Be

[Biofuel] Biofuel crops: Europe calls for screening

[Sustainable Bioenergy]

Biofuel crops: Europe calls for urgent screening
'Invasive' biofuel crops require monitoring and mitigation measures
 
 
Biofuel crops will impact on species biodiversity and natural ecosystems unless 
tightly controlled, says a panel of European experts.
In late 2009, the ‘Standing Committee of the Council of Europe Convention on 
the Conservation of European Wildlife and Natural Habitats’ (known as the Bern 
Convention) adopted a recommendation on potentially invasive alien plants being 
used as biofuel crops (Recommendation 141, 2009). They warn that some biofuel 
crops are able to escape as pests, and in so doing impact on native 
biodiversity. As rural communities plan to grow more biofuel crops, the 
likelihood of new and harmful ‘invasions’ will increase apace.
Therefore the Council of Europe made recommendations, which are legally binding 
on member states:
1. Avoid the use of biofuel crops already recognised as invasive;
2. Carry out risk assessments for new species and genotypes;
3. Monitor the spread of biofuel crops into natural habitats and their effects 
on native species;
4. Mitigate the spread and impact on native biodiversity wherever biofuel crops 
escape cultivation. 
These measures were prompted by a report submitted by ISPRA (the Italian 
Institute for Environmental Protection and Research, an agency of the Italian 
Ministry for the Environment) to the Bern Convention group of experts. While 
recognising the growth in energy demand, linked to rising populations and the 
economic and environmental costs of fossil fuels, the report made a compelling 
case to farm biofuel crops in an environmentally sustainable manner.
The case for controls
Several biofuel species share common traits with invasive, aggressive species, 
selected inter alia for their rapid growth, high seed production, and 
resistance to pests and diseases. The evidence is clear. Without these 
measures, escaped biofuel crops cause loss of native biodiversity and farmland 
functionality, with knock on effects on yield. 
In addition, the current state of many farmlands facilitates the invasions of 
species. Changes to water and nutrient cycle, altered fire regime, and 
abandonment of arable lands provide ideal ‘vacant niches’, especially where 
located beside massive quantities of aggresive biofuel crops.
Screening, mitigation and buffer zones 
It is therefore important, say the experts, to introduce pre-cultivation 
screening for each proposed genotype and region. Cultivation criteria to limit 
the dispersal and recruitment capacity of the invasive crops need to be 
introduced. Biological buffer zones between crop fields and natural vegetation 
are also key to limiting invasions.. The more invasive the crop, the bigger the 
buffer zone. 
In the long-term, biofuel crops with invasive traits need to be limited in 
number and scope, even if this affects the agronomic efficiency and financial 
bottom line.. Complying with these Bern Convention recommendations will 
conserve Europe’s wild flora and fauna and their natural habitats, while 
producing sustainable and renewable sources of energy. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel] Crosspost: Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal

[Keith Addison]

>Thank you for this  Dawie.  Very enjoyable. Have you ever checked out Joel
>Saltin's website _http://www.polyfacefarms.com/_
>(http://www.polyfacefarms.com/)  ?  I found it very interesting. I 
>am thinking of  getting a few of his
>books. And is very nice country there too.
>  blessings
>   Shan

It's not a good grazing system though, "high priest of the pasture" 
he ain't. "Beyond organic", LOL! - he hasn't even got there yet, let 
alone beyond it. Be wary when you see that phrase.

It's not that much use just rotating the livestock around the grass, 
you have to rotate the grass too, right around the farm, followed by 
a succession of other crops. Otherwise it's just shifting 
agriculture, primitive.

See Ley farming:


While Salatin's "Pastured Poultry" system is obviously an improvement 
on a Tyson's broiler-house, it's still a confinement operation, not 
free range. The birds don't get enough exercise, it's 
labour-intensive (you have to move the pens twice a day) and other 
users of the system report that chickens' legs get broken by the pens 
when they're being moved.

Naah.

Best

Keith


>[Biofuel] Crosspost: Everything I Want to  Do Is Illegal
>Dawie Coetzee
>Tue,  04 Aug 2009 00:44:32 -0700
>
>Posted on the Distributism Yahoo group:
>_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/distributism/message/10703 _
>(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/distributism/message/10703 )
>
>
>
>This is an EXCELLENT essay by a family farmer in Virginia who also wrote a
>book
>  by the same title. It documents in spades how the "We're from the
>government
>  and we're here to help you" permeates EVERY aspect of our lives.
>
>  Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal
>
>  JOEL SALATIN / Acres v.33, n.9, Sept 2003 1 Sep 03
>
>  Everything I want to do is illegal. As if a highly bureaucratic regulatory
>  system was not already in place, 9/11 fueled renewed acceleration to
>eliminate
>  freedom from the countryside. Every time a letter arrives in the mail from
>a
>  federal or state agriculture department my heart jumps like I just got
>sent to
>  the principal's office.
>
>  And it doesn't stop with agriculture bureaucrats. It includes all sorts of
>  government agencies, from zoning, to taxing, to food inspectors. These
>agencies
>  are the ultimate extension of a disconnected, Greco-Roman, Western,
>egocentric,
>  compartmentalized, reductionist, fragmented, linear thought process.
>
>  Remainder of article here:
>
>_http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm_
>(http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm)
>


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel] Crosspost: Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal

[SurpriseShan2]

Thank you for this  Dawie.  Very enjoyable. Have you ever checked out Joel 
Saltin's website _http://www.polyfacefarms.com/_ 
(http://www.polyfacefarms.com/)  ?  I found it very interesting. I am thinking 
of  getting a few of his 
books. And is very nice country there too. 
 blessings
  Shan
 
 

 
 
[Biofuel] Crosspost: Everything I Want to  Do Is Illegal
Dawie Coetzee
Tue,  04 Aug 2009 00:44:32 -0700

Posted on the Distributism Yahoo group: 
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/distributism/message/10703 _ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/distributism/message/10703 ) 



This is an EXCELLENT essay by a family farmer in Virginia who also wrote a 
book
 by the same title. It documents in spades how the "We're from the 
government
 and we're here to help you" permeates EVERY aspect of our lives.
 
 Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal
 
 JOEL SALATIN / Acres v.33, n.9, Sept 2003 1 Sep 03
 
 Everything I want to do is illegal. As if a highly bureaucratic regulatory
 system was not already in place, 9/11 fueled renewed acceleration to 
eliminate
 freedom from the countryside. Every time a letter arrives in the mail from 
a
 federal or state agriculture department my heart jumps like I just got 
sent to
 the principal's office.
 
 And it doesn't stop with agriculture bureaucrats. It includes all sorts of
 government agencies, from zoning, to taxing, to food inspectors. These 
agencies
 are the ultimate extension of a disconnected, Greco-Roman, Western, 
egocentric,
 compartmentalized, reductionist, fragmented, linear thought process.
 
 Remainder of article here:
 
_http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm_ 
(http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm) 







  
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[Biofuel] Biofuel benefits city's vehicles - Winnipeg Free Press - 2009.01.24

[Darryl McMahon]

"Fuel partly derived from low-grade canola or spoiled crops could wind 
up in the tanks of all city-owned diesel-powered vehicles after a 
biodiesel pilot project showed city vehicles are more efficient when 
they run on the environmentally friendly fuel."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/biofuel_benefits_citys_vehicles38266344.html

Project's finding may spur switch

By: Bartley Kives

24/01/2009 1:00 AM

Fuel partly derived from low-grade canola or spoiled crops could wind up 
in the tanks of all city-owned diesel-powered vehicles after a biodiesel 
pilot project showed city vehicles are more efficient when they run on 
the environmentally friendly fuel.

Winnipeg is close to completing a two-year alternative-fuel study that 
involved 20 city vehicles running on a mixture of 90 per cent 
conventional diesel fuel and 10 per cent biodiesel derived from U.S. 
soybean crops.

The $600,000 study, which concludes in March, already suggests city 
diesel trucks can run up to five per cent more efficiently on biodiesel 
than vehicles with ordinary diesel in their tanks -- even in the middle 
of a harsh Winnipeg winter.

"If we can do it in Winnipeg, you can do it anywhere," Winnipeg Fleet 
Management Agency head Yvan Lupien said as the city, provincial and 
federal governments invited reporters into Winnipeg's biodiesel-fuelling 
facility on Pacific Avenue.

Unlike ethanol made from food-grade crops, biodiesel is considered a 
genuinely green fuel because it can be made from waste products such as 
low-grade or blighted crops, used cooking oil or possibly even algae.

Though corn-based ethanol offers minimal climate-change benefits because 
it takes almost as much energy to produce as conventional fuel, 
canola-based biodiesel requires up to 16 times less energy to create, 
provided it comes from waste products or low-grade crops, said Jim 
Rondeau, Manitoba's science, technology and energy minister.

Manitoba is expected to require biodiesel to be blended into all 
provincially sold diesel fuel sometime this year, as biodiesel plants 
are under development in St. Boniface, the Interlake town of Arborg and 
just outside Beausejour.

That could make any city decision about biodiesel use in its own fleet a 
moot issue. Winnipeg Mayor Sam Katz said he's excited by the technology, 
which he said reminds him of science- fiction scenarios from cartoons.

"Twenty years ago, we could only dream about recycling waste into fuel," 
he said.

Before Winnipeg began testing biodiesel, the Fleet Management Agency 
expected the fuel to be two or three per cent less efficient than 
conventional diesel. It wound up providing superior lubrication to city 
vehicles and did not require fuel filters to be changed as often as 
expected, said Lupien and project manager Ajaleigh Williams.

The combination of lower energy inputs, increased fuel efficiency and 
easier maintenance makes biodiesel extremely attractive, they said.

Research into deriving biodiesel from algae may make it possible to 
create even more efficient blends in the future, said Arne Elias, 
director of the University of Winnipeg's Centre for Sustainable 
Transportation.

But it does not seem likely Manitoba will be able to kill two 
environmental problems with one stone by collecting Lake Winnipeg algae 
for biodiesel-production purposes. Algae used for biodiesel research is 
grown in closed tanks or open ponds, not harvested from the wild, Elias 
said.

- With files from Larry Kusch

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Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Re: Diesel Aircraft

[Alan Petrillo]

Realty Projects wrote:
> I like you all live for flying and looking forward to a diesel power 
> plant water cooled for a Vans 10 project. How long before Lycoming or 
> Continental have a suitable engine?

Oh yeah, I forgot one.  The Austro Engine:
http://www.austroengine.at/home/


AP



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Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Re: Diesel Aircraft

[Alan Petrillo]

Realty Projects wrote:
> I like you all live for flying and looking forward to a diesel power 
> plant water cooled for a Vans 10 project. How long before Lycoming or 
> Continental have a suitable engine?

Don't hold your breath.  Continental has had their "CITEC" engine, they
refuse to call it a "Diesel", under development for about 15 years now,
and I have yet to hear anything about them releasing an actual product.
Apparently after NASA's development money ran out Continental decided
they didn't want to continue research on the project.

Lycoming announced the intent to develop a diesel engine back in 2005,
and so far have produced zilch.

The most promising manufacturer of aviation diesel engines, Thielert,
just went bankrupt, even though they have supplied the majority of the
aviation diesel engines now in service.
http://www.thielert.com/

Wilksch Airmotive, in England, looks promising, if they can stay in
business.
http://www.wilksch.co.uk/

SNECMA's SMA Engines division also looks promising.
http://www.smaengines.com/

If you don't need a certificated engine then you might like Deltahawk:
http://www.deltahawkengines.com/

The best resource for you is the Dieselair Newsletter.
http://dieselair.com/
The editor, Andre Teissier-DuCros has forgotten more about aviation
diesel engines than I know.

If you really want a Lyconasaur in your airplane then you'll have to
stick with an Otto engine.


AP



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[Biofuel] Biofuel crops to transform UK landscape

[Keith Addison]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/98e72728-5fc0-11dc-b0fe-779fd2ac.html
FT.com / World -

Biofuel crops to transform UK landscape

By Clive Cookson in York

Published: September 10 2007 18:27 | Last updated: September 10 2007 18:27

The British countryside will be transformed through the planting of 
tall energy crops, the BA Festival of Science in York heard on 
Monday. Fields planted with miscanthus grass, 3-4 metres high, will 
look like Caribbean sugarcane plantations.

The government's Rural Economy and Land Use (RELU) programme 
estimates that 15-20 per cent of Britain's agricultural land may have 
to be devoted to growing biofuels to meet international obligations 
to reduce carbon emissions and improve energy security.

The two main candidate crops are willow coppice, harvested every 
three years, and miscanthus, a fast-growing Asian grass harvested 
annually in late winter or spring. Farmers would grow these on 
poor-quality arable land, said Angela Karp of Rothamsted Research, 
RELU energy crops co-ordinator.

"The impact on agriculture and food production is a big concern. 
Because the energy crops recycle their own nutrients and do not need 
fertilisers, they will not need to be planted on the best 
agricultural land. A lot of our research is about where best to grow 
these crops."

Part of the exercise is to assess the public acceptability of a 
landscape dominated by giant energy crops. During the summer RELU 
researchers asked 490 people in four English cities for their 
impressions, using photographs of existing miscanthus and willow 
plantations. Two-thirds said they would not mind them growing within 
sight of their home, though this figure fell when participants were 
told that more local power stations would be needed to produce energy 
from the crops.

On Tuesday Dr Karp and colleagues will show shoppers in York city 
centre 3-D computer simulations of "virtual landscapes". Such scenery 
is likely to change less over the years than a conventional arable 
landscape because, once planted, miscanthus or willow remain in place 
for 20 to 30 years.

In the short term, miscanthus and willow will be burned in biomass 
power plants. In the long run researchers want to find efficient ways 
to convert them into liquid biofuel (bio-ethanol) for use in 
transport.

Dr Karp said biodiversity assessments showed that miscanthus and 
willow were more beneficial than conventional crops for wildlife, 
because they did not normally require spraying with pesticide and 
they provided cover during the winter.

Philip Lowe of Newcastle University, RELU director, urged the 
government to "take a more strategic approach to land use in rural 
areas".

Better planning was essential to help adapt to the consequences of 
climate change. Prof Lowe said the government needed a strategic 
vision for balancing the growing pressures on home-grown food 
supplies with the need to grow energy crops.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

To the suggestion:
>glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.

Tom: "I wonder why"

To which Joe Street replied:
"Well I'm no chemist but my guess would be that the large Mono and Di and 
triglyceride molecules that are left are jammed in between the ester molecules 
and the glycerine has to jostle its way through it all on its way to the 
bottom.  Having just the light ester molecules in a highly complete scenario 
makes it a little easier ride cause they get out of the way of the big heavy 
glycerin more readily?"

An answer based on physical properties; nice

Let me try to add to that:

Glycerine has regions of charge at the -OH groups.
While Triglycerides probably wouldn't have such regions of charge, Mono- and 
Di- glycerides would.
The uncharged fatty acid chains of the Mono- and Di- glycerides might interact 
with the uncharged hydrocarbon chains of the BD while the charged regions of 
the Mono- and Di- glycerides are associating with the charged regions of 
glycerine. Sort of like the way one end of soap (uncharged) interacts with 
grease/oils while the other end (charged) of the soap interacts with water. 
 Then again, maybe not. I thought I'd give it a try.

   Tom



  - Original Message - 
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  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test




  Thomas Kelly wrote:

Hi Joe,

>glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.

 I wonder why
  Well I'm no chemist but my guess would be that the large Mono and Di and 
triglyceride molecules that are left are jammed in between the ester molecules 
and the glycerine has to jostle its way through it all on its way to the 
bottom.  Having just the light ester molecules in a highly complete scenario 
makes it a little easier ride cause they get out of the way of the big heavy 
glycerin more readily?


  Interesting experiment.
  I make two grades of BD 
   Good:  passes quality test; used for car
   Not so good: fails QT used for boiler (heat)

 I could take a separate sample from each after 6 - 8 hrs settling and 
note whether more glycerine drops out of one or the other.
(I'll have to make a note of this and try it when I get some time)
  Yes this is a good idea.  Let me know what you find out.


 Do you agree that settling does not remove unreacted oil?
  Yes oil is soluble in esters.


 I guess I could do a quality test on "Not so good" BD after 6 - 8 hrs 
of settling, repeat the test after 7 days of settling and see if less residue 
dropped out.
(Make another note of this).
  No I don't think this will give meaningful data because it is the mono/di and 
triglycerides that settle out of the methanol test ( and soap) but the glycerol 
will stay in solution in the methanol. 

  Joe 


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Joe Street]

Thomas Kelly wrote:


Hi Joe,
 
>glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.
 
 I wonder why


Well I'm no chemist but my guess would be that the large Mono and Di and 
triglyceride molecules that are left are jammed in between the ester 
molecules and the glycerine has to jostle its way through it all on its 
way to the bottom.  Having just the light ester molecules in a highly 
complete scenario makes it a little easier ride cause they get out of 
the way of the big heavy glycerin more readily?


 
  Interesting experiment.

  I make two grades of BD
   Good:  passes quality test; used for car
   Not so good: fails QT used for boiler (heat)
 
 I could take a separate sample from each after 6 - 8 hrs settling 
and note whether more glycerine drops out of one or the other.

(I'll have to make a note of this and try it when I get some time)


Yes this is a good idea.  Let me know what you find out.

 
 Do you agree that settling does not remove unreacted oil?


Yes oil is soluble in esters.

 
 I guess I could do a quality test on "Not so good" BD after 6 - 8 
hrs of settling, repeat the test after 7 days of settling and see if 
less residue dropped out.

(Make another note of this).


No I don't think this will give meaningful data because it is the 
mono/di and triglycerides that settle out of the methanol test ( and 
soap) but the glycerol will stay in solution in the methanol.


Joe
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

Hi Joe,

>glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.

 I wonder why

  Interesting experiment.
  I make two grades of BD 
   Good:  passes quality test; used for car
   Not so good: fails QT used for boiler (heat)

 I could take a separate sample from each after 6 - 8 hrs settling and note 
whether more glycerine drops out of one or the other.
(I'll have to make a note of this and try it when I get some time)

 Do you agree that settling does not remove unreacted oil?

 I guess I could do a quality test on "Not so good" BD after 6 - 8 hrs of 
settling, repeat the test after 7 days of settling and see if less residue 
dropped out.
(Make another note of this).
   
   Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


  Hey Tom;

  Take a sample from your fuel after settling 6-8 hrs and set it asside in a 
mason jar for the longer period and see what settles out.  Rod believes that 
glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.  I believe he is right. 
 And yes it only takes a little glycerin to emulsify your wash.

  Joe

  Thomas Kelly wrote:

Mike,
I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes  much easier. I doubt 
that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I 
don't think the unreacted oil will settle out.

But:
I have been wondering about something.
When I started making BD it would never pass the methanol quality test.
I inevitably got emulsions in the wash. Now, when I make BD for my 
"oil"-fired boiler, I use only about 16-17% (vol/vol) of methanol. The BD 
does not pass the quality test, but I don't have the same emulsion problems. 
Is it because I let it settle longer  (24+ hours vs 6 - 8 hrs)?
Does the presence of a small amount of glycerine/soaps make that much of 
a difference when trying to wash BD from an incomplete reaction?

  Tom


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From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


  FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and
that also seems to help w/ this.


Thomas Kelly wrote:

Shawn,

I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was
unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.

I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
- Shut off the pump
- Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
- Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
- Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer

There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in 
getting
a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.

I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and
the
result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your
next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
 Best to You,
   Tom


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From: "shawn patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test




  Good Day All,

My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. 
Is
this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I
assumed
that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process
without
separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??

Regards

Shawn Patrick



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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

Do you let the wash settle longer too?
When I'm not in a rush I let it settle for 12 - 24 hrs between washings.
After the last wash letting it settle for a couple of days makes drying a 
snap   cubies in the sun.

I'm not sure what you mean by "white gunk in the clear filter", but maybe 
you're referring to soap. When I only let a batch settle overnight, I get 
white gunk in the wash. The longer I let it settle, the less I get.
I think this is soap that forms during the reaction and it settles out w. 
the glycerine. After settling for a week there's probably none left in the 
BD.
 Tom

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


> Well, I'm not really a greybeard, but since I've been settling both the
> crack and the wash I haven't seen any white gunk in the clear filter.
>
> -M
>
>
> Thomas Kelly wrote:
>
>>Mike,
>>I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes  much easier. I 
>> doubt
>>that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I
>>don't think the unreacted oil will settle out.
>>
>>But:
>>I have been wondering about something.
>>When I started making BD it would never pass the methanol quality 
>> test.
>>I inevitably got emulsions in the wash. Now, when I make BD for my
>>"oil"-fired boiler, I use only about 16-17% (vol/vol) of methanol. The BD
>>does not pass the quality test, but I don't have the same emulsion 
>>problems.
>>Is it because I let it settle longer  (24+ hours vs 6 - 8 hrs)?
>>Does the presence of a small amount of glycerine/soaps make that much 
>> of
>>a difference when trying to wash BD from an incomplete reaction?
>>
>>  Tom
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:46 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and
>>>that also seems to help w/ this.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thomas Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Shawn,
>>>>
>>>>I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was
>>>>unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.
>>>>
>>>>I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
>>>>- Shut off the pump
>>>>- Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
>>>>- Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
>>>>- Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer
>>>>
>>>>There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in
>>>>getting
>>>>a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.
>>>>
>>>>I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, 
>>>> and
>>>>the
>>>>result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for 
>>>>your
>>>>next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the 
>>>>test.
>>>> Best to You,
>>>>   Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message - 
>>>>From: "shawn patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
>>>>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
>>>>Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Good Day All,
>>>>>
>>>>>My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist.
>>>>>Is
>>>>>this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin 
>>>>>has
>>>>>been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
>>>>>glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could 
>>>>>tell
>>>>>that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I
>>>>>assumed
>>>>>that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process
>>>>>without
>>>>>s

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Mike Weaver]

Well, I'm not really a greybeard, but since I've been settling both the 
crack and the wash I haven't seen any white gunk in the clear filter.

-M


Thomas Kelly wrote:

>Mike,
>I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes  much easier. I doubt 
>that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I 
>don't think the unreacted oil will settle out.
>
>But:
>I have been wondering about something.
>When I started making BD it would never pass the methanol quality test.
>I inevitably got emulsions in the wash. Now, when I make BD for my 
>"oil"-fired boiler, I use only about 16-17% (vol/vol) of methanol. The BD 
>does not pass the quality test, but I don't have the same emulsion problems. 
>Is it because I let it settle longer  (24+ hours vs 6 - 8 hrs)?
>Does the presence of a small amount of glycerine/soaps make that much of 
>a difference when trying to wash BD from an incomplete reaction?
>
>  Tom
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>
>
>  
>
>>FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and
>>that also seems to help w/ this.
>>
>>
>>Thomas Kelly wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Shawn,
>>>
>>>I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was
>>>unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.
>>>
>>>I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
>>>- Shut off the pump
>>>- Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
>>>- Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
>>>- Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer
>>>
>>>There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in 
>>>getting
>>>a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.
>>>
>>>I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and
>>>the
>>>result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your
>>>next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
>>> Best to You,
>>>   Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "shawn patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
>>>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
>>>Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Good Day All,
>>>>
>>>>My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. 
>>>>Is
>>>>this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
>>>>been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
>>>>glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
>>>>that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I
>>>>assumed
>>>>that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process
>>>>without
>>>>separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
>>>>Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Shawn Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Joe Street]

Hey Tom;

Take a sample from your fuel after settling 6-8 hrs and set it asside in 
a mason jar for the longer period and see what settles out.  Rod 
believes that glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction.  I 
believe he is right.  And yes it only takes a little glycerin to 
emulsify your wash.


Joe

Thomas Kelly wrote:


Mike,
   I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes  much easier. I doubt 
that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I 
don't think the unreacted oil will settle out.


But:
   I have been wondering about something.
   When I started making BD it would never pass the methanol quality test.
I inevitably got emulsions in the wash. Now, when I make BD for my 
"oil"-fired boiler, I use only about 16-17% (vol/vol) of methanol. The BD 
does not pass the quality test, but I don't have the same emulsion problems. 
Is it because I let it settle longer  (24+ hours vs 6 - 8 hrs)?
   Does the presence of a small amount of glycerine/soaps make that much of 
a difference when trying to wash BD from an incomplete reaction?


 Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


 


FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and
that also seems to help w/ this.


Thomas Kelly wrote:

   


Shawn,

   I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was
unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.

   I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
   - Shut off the pump
   - Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
   - Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
   - Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer

   There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in 
getting

a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.

   I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and
the
result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your
next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
Best to You,
  Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "shawn patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test




 


Good Day All,

My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. 
Is

this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I
assumed
that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process
without
separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??

Regards

Shawn Patrick



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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

Mike,
I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes  much easier. I doubt 
that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I 
don't think the unreacted oil will settle out.

But:
I have been wondering about something.
When I started making BD it would never pass the methanol quality test.
I inevitably got emulsions in the wash. Now, when I make BD for my 
"oil"-fired boiler, I use only about 16-17% (vol/vol) of methanol. The BD 
does not pass the quality test, but I don't have the same emulsion problems. 
Is it because I let it settle longer  (24+ hours vs 6 - 8 hrs)?
Does the presence of a small amount of glycerine/soaps make that much of 
a difference when trying to wash BD from an incomplete reaction?

  Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


> FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and
> that also seems to help w/ this.
>
>
> Thomas Kelly wrote:
>
>>Shawn,
>>
>> I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was
>>unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.
>>
>> I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
>> - Shut off the pump
>> - Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
>> - Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
>> - Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer
>>
>> There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in 
>> getting
>>a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.
>>
>> I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and
>>the
>>result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your
>>next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
>>  Best to You,
>>            Tom
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "shawn patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
>>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Good Day All,
>>>
>>>My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. 
>>>Is
>>>this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
>>>been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
>>>glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
>>>that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I
>>>assumed
>>>that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process
>>>without
>>>separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
>>>Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Shawn Patrick
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

Shawn,
 I see that Jan W replied to your post.
 I hope I didn't confuse things with my earlier post
 Do as he advises.
   Tom


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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


> Good Day All,
>
> My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is
> this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
> been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
> glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
> that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I 
> assumed
> that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process 
> without
> separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
> Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>
> Regards
>
> Shawn Patrick
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Mike Weaver]

FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and 
that also seems to help w/ this.


Thomas Kelly wrote:

>Shawn,
>
> I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was 
>unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.
>
> I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
> - Shut off the pump
> - Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
> - Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
> - Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer
>
> There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in getting 
>a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.
>
> I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and 
>the
>result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your 
>next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
>  Best to You,
>Tom
>
>
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>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
>Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test
>
>
>  
>
>>Good Day All,
>>
>>My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is
>>this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
>>been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
>>glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
>>that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I 
>>assumed
>>that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process 
>>without
>>separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
>>Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Shawn Patrick
>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Thomas Kelly]

Shawn,

 I suspect that the "dense substance at the bottom of the flask" was 
unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction.

 I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing.
 - Shut off the pump
 - Drain a sample and turn the pump back on
 - Allow the glycerin to settle for a few minutes
 - Perform Jan W's quality test on the top (crude BD) layer

 There is still glycerin in the mix, but if I have succeeded in getting 
a complete reaction, I do not get an insoluble residue on the bottom.

 I repeat the test after washing the BD. It is a quick, easy test, and 
the
result, whether it passed or failed can be added to the methoxide for your 
next batch  .  no wasted methanol, costs nothing to perform the test.
  Best to You,
Tom


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To: "Biofuel Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


> Good Day All,
>
> My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is
> this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
> been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
> glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
> that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I 
> assumed
> that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process 
> without
> separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
> Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>
> Regards
>
> Shawn Patrick
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[Jan Warnqvist]

Hello Shawn. You were looking at all methanol soluble components including 
the glycerine which is rather soluble in methanol. Separate the glycerine 
next time.
Best regards
Jan Warnqvist
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test


> Good Day All,
>
> My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is
> this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
> been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
> glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
> that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I 
> assumed
> that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process 
> without
> separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
> Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??
>
> Regards
>
> Shawn Patrick
>
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[Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

[shawn patrick]

Good Day All,

My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is
this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has
been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing
glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you could tell
that there was a more dense substance at the bottom of the flask. I assumed
that was the glycerin since just extracted a sample from the process without
separating BD from glycerin. Does the glycerin dissolve in the methanol??
Was I looking at the unprocessed materials in my BD??

Regards

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Re: [Biofuel] (BIOFUEL)-- Future World leader in biodiesel production , Social Technolgy and Netwok .

[Pagandai Pannirselvam]

Hi , Vivek , Keith and all the beloved list members,


   Well  and wish the  the good debate here about the  great green future
wit decentalized small biofuel project around the world

Vivek wrote

I have been reading a lot on the list since I' ve joined it a couple of
weeks back.

But could not get the information i was looking for. So i thought to write
my perspective and get every body's input on the issue.


 *Vivek , the  every one input is very important also. There used to be
very high input here for several  topics earlier , as our list was one  of
the big ,and the best  . I am sure that all  members of the list like  wish
to deeply understand the biofuel but  few only  wish  to  give input and
colaborate  about the the small scale biofuel production for the farmer of
the world. There come  the question of world  leader of exporters ? or  for
self  use ? Do not feel unhappy because some big  business sponsored
members may not give input to your questions.*


As far as my knowledge is concerned the cost of  production of biodiesel is
not competitive to the  petrodiesel and companies depend on the government
support for their profits. EU though leading the race, presently,  in  the
production of bio- diesel, but this growth is mainly on the back of
government subsidies and tax holidays. But it may be very soon when other
countries will take over EU . Primarily because raw material( rapeseed
oil) is very expensive  here.


  *There  are globalized international cost and local cost , and surely
what you mean by  the cost is dependent variable on local . Some isolated
area in Amazonian forest as well as other remote place ,  the diesel is
sold  8 time more costlier than  world globalised price. Any  who  can  help
and solve this energy problem eliminating this gap can be the world leader,
but this is not going to be  only by the big blue companies one , as  the
solar biomass energy is decentralised , need to involve .The big world
leader planning to  eliminate the small one will be not be sustainable , may
be possible for short time victory and  big profit ,but  long time  total
failure.This had been the history for the seveal bioenergy  big thermal
energy project where the peoplles are excluded and small farmar were not
included , not able to survive , as the model is not based on ecological
sustainability.

 The cooperative of small farmerfrom Indian  in west Bengal  using
Internet  can buy  Palms from Brazilian farmer cooperatives ,  simple hand
operating low cost press  made from Australia  by a small company , can
obtain  the proven best high quality  of two stage process from JTF ,Japan ,
without paying money for the the best technology , but I hope and wish they
give donation afterwards after thet  get benefits  to make JTF sustainable
),  get trained by fresh university students again based on the photos ,
step by step  easy how to make low cost equipments.They   can  find where
the market is there  nearby  them by social network  to sell  with the
low  price
to Bangladesh poor Farmer using micro credits facility as this has already
made a big world level success  for irrigation to make their food  as power
cut is not yet solved problem  there and India.. Who can be the world leader
both India , Australia  and Brazil , where  money has come for the
investments  by the community who had the social capital.Here all is leader
, but alone no one go to any where .

  For examples , even though , the cashew  big industrial processing , and
also business product marketing are in the  hand of very few  rich Brazilian
and Indian merchants  , but   I am  not sure this  will survive , after web2
, second life social revolution , I am sure no one will be leader alone  .
Many  country  can  help and make  Microsoft as the leader , which  is now
not a leader in Internet world, but wish and try to be , which  I am sure
will be never   in future  as the leader  as in the past , as  web2 and
google  is  coming over there, the web3 social net  based  face book ,
social web service  in next web3, the third life changing can will win the
the leader now but again not alone , but collective  social intelligent net
work   , as the model for the big single leader one , if not socially
justified  will not be  sustainable .Yet many rich business people  all
trying to make  Brazil as the world leader in cashew industrial  production
as the only big leader  with big automated machinery , yet  India  and South
Africa together is the world leader in future  with growing social network
of web2 , as  both  uses solar energy , small scale appropriate technology ,
surviving  now the big battle of the large company   wih the help of the
government  money .Thus making  the war of eradication of  the small scale
industries is  not good  and not just  ,but all this  go  in  the name of
modernization , nationalization  , to become world leader as if the single
world leader is the the only key issue , goal for all the co

[Biofuel] (BIOFUEL)-- Future World leader in biodiesel production

[vivek gupta]

Hello everyone
   
  I have been reading a lot on the list since I' ve joined it a couple of weeks 
back.
  But could not get the information i was lookin for. So i thought to write my 
perspective and get everybody's input on the issue.
   
  As far as my knowledge is concerned the cost of  production of biodiesel is 
not competitive to the  petrodiesel and companies depend on the government 
support for their profits. EU though leading the race, presently,  in  the 
production of bio- diesel, but this growth is mainly on the back of government 
subsidies and tax holidays. But it may be very soon when other countries will 
take over EU . Primarily because raw material( rapeseed oil) is very expensive  
here.
   
  I feel countries like Indonesia (one of the largest producer of  palm oil ), 
India (jatropha as high yield and india has sufficient land apart from 
agriculturable land which support its cultivation), could emerge as the major 
producer of biodiesel. But these countries lack the basic infrastructure and 
policy framework and are evolving vey slowly in this sector. U.S.A. , Brazil 
could lead the world in this .
   
  Bye the way is there any other way to increase the competitiveness of 
biodiesel vis-a-vis petrodiesel apart from reduced feedstock cost, higher 
operating efficiency and higher oil prices.
   
  Looking forward for a informative debate on the topic.
   
  Regards 
  Vivek 
   
   

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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Jason Mier]

actually you can add folders to hotmail and use the "[Biofuels]" tag to 
filter all the list mail to that folder. similar to "outhouse" express ;P




From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:18:43 +0900

Hello Mike, welcome Kurt

>If you switch to a linux-based email system you could use procmail to
>filter the messages for you...otherwise I am sure you can set up filters
>in Microsoft Outhouse
>er, Outlook and numerous other clients...
>
>-Weaver

Kurt uses hotmail. Could always be wrong but I don't think there's
any good way to handle a mailing list with hotmail.

Otherwise there's this, which is reffed at the list subscribe page:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg21651.html

Best

Keith


>Kurt Schasker wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Biofuelers:
> > I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
> > participated.
> >
> > I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to
> > read only those that directly related to biofuel issues?
> >
> >  This listserve is very active, and I really do enjoy reading some
> > of the posts, so I am not asking for, nor wanting to, have
> > anything change on this listserve.
> >
> > However, this list has active threads going right now on solar
> > energy, wind energy, converting plastics to oil, recycling,
> > outboard motors, and hemp, just to name a few.  By my definition,
> > these ar not biofuel topics.  Of course, the readers of this
> > listserve may have different definitions.
> >
> > So, once again, I do not want anything changed, I just wondered if
> > anyone knows a way I could digitally filter out the non-biofuel
> > posts so I can read what I want?
> >
> > The shear volume of posts on this listserve is quite intimidating,
> > and so, I am afraid, I often ignore this listserve as a result.
> >
> > Please accept my apologies, in advance, if this post is at all
> > presumptuous or offensive.
> >
> > I was warned that this was a very active listserve when I first
> > joined.  It also seems that there were warnings that the topics
> > were often "far-reaching".

"All aspects of biofuels and their use are covered -- biodiesel,
ethanol, other alternative fuels, related technologies and issues,
energy issues, environment, sustainability and more."


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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Keith Addison]

Hello Mike, welcome Kurt

>If you switch to a linux-based email system you could use procmail to
>filter the messages for you...otherwise I am sure you can set up filters
>in Microsoft Outhouse
>er, Outlook and numerous other clients...
>
>-Weaver

Kurt uses hotmail. Could always be wrong but I don't think there's 
any good way to handle a mailing list with hotmail.

Otherwise there's this, which is reffed at the list subscribe page:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg21651.html

Best

Keith


>Kurt Schasker wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Biofuelers:
> > I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
> > participated.
> >
> > I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to
> > read only those that directly related to biofuel issues?
> >
> >  This listserve is very active, and I really do enjoy reading some
> > of the posts, so I am not asking for, nor wanting to, have
> > anything change on this listserve.
> >
> > However, this list has active threads going right now on solar
> > energy, wind energy, converting plastics to oil, recycling,
> > outboard motors, and hemp, just to name a few.  By my definition,
> > these ar not biofuel topics.  Of course, the readers of this
> > listserve may have different definitions.
> >
> > So, once again, I do not want anything changed, I just wondered if
> > anyone knows a way I could digitally filter out the non-biofuel
> > posts so I can read what I want?
> >
> > The shear volume of posts on this listserve is quite intimidating,
> > and so, I am afraid, I often ignore this listserve as a result.
> >
> > Please accept my apologies, in advance, if this post is at all
> > presumptuous or offensive.
> >
> > I was warned that this was a very active listserve when I first
> > joined.  It also seems that there were warnings that the topics
> > were often "far-reaching".

"All aspects of biofuels and their use are covered -- biodiesel, 
ethanol, other alternative fuels, related technologies and issues, 
energy issues, environment, sustainability and more."


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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Keith Addison]

>Another member mention filters/message rules, that's how manage the
>volume of email I elected to receive. I use the filters to direct new
>email from each list into it's own folder.  That way the email in my
>inbox are the ones that may really need my attention.  When I turn my
>attention to the specialized folders, I may elect to delete all the new
>posts there based on the subject lines or read those of interest.  After
>you get used to using the filters you will discover how to refine the
>further.
>Doug, N0LKK
>Kansas USA inc.

Why delete? There's little or no advantage to it and you lose a lot.
See:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg21651.html
Deleting - Re: [biofuel] Politics and Biofuels

Best

Keith


>Kurt Schasker wrote:
> >
> >
> > Biofuelers:
> > I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
> > participated.
> >
> > I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to read
> > only those that directly related to biofuel issues?


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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Paul S Cantrell]

Kurt,
I have to agree with Mike, that it is your email account.

I would not be able to manage it in Hotmail, since it is terrible, and
has the worst user interface I've ever used for email.

I use Gmail, which works great with filters and spam protection, and
most importantly, organizes posts into conversations/threads, which
increases the time it takes to follow certain threads and ignore
others.

You could also use Mozilla's Thunderbird client if you are not on Linux.

In other words, before you change what is incoming to your mailbox,
maybe you should try a couple of different ways of receiving and
processing the information.

On 7/11/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you switch to a linux-based email system you could use procmail to
> filter the messages for you...otherwise I am sure you can set up filters
> in Microsoft Outhouse
> er, Outlook and numerous other clients...
>
> -Weaver
>

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Thanks,
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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Doug Younker]

Another member mention filters/message rules, that's how manage the 
volume of email I elected to receive. I use the filters to direct new 
email from each list into it's own folder.  That way the email in my 
inbox are the ones that may really need my attention.  When I turn my 
attention to the specialized folders, I may elect to delete all the new 
posts there based on the subject lines or read those of interest.  After 
you get used to using the filters you will discover how to refine the 
further.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.


Kurt Schasker wrote:
> 
> 
> Biofuelers:
> I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
> participated. 
>  
> I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to read
> only those that directly related to biofuel issues?

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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[robert and benita rabello]

Kurt Schasker wrote:




Biofuelers:
I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
participated. 
 
I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to

read only those that directly related to biofuel issues?



   Everything is related, Kurt. 

 
 This listserve is very active, and I really do enjoy reading some

of the posts, so I am not asking for, nor wanting to, have
anything change on this listserve.
 
However, this list has active threads going right now on solar

energy, wind energy, converting plastics to oil, recycling,
outboard motors, and hemp, just to name a few.  By my definition,
these ar not biofuel topics.  Of course, the readers of this
listserve may have different definitions.



   Those of us who have been here for a long time see much integration 
with respect to these issues.  Sometimes the discussion here wanders 
away from topics directly related to sustainability, but not for long.


 
So, once again, I do not want anything changed, I just wondered if

anyone knows a way I could digitally filter out the non-biofuel
posts so I can read what I want?



   I think you'll have to depend on the subject lines and dump anything 
that doesn't interest you.  Every post in this group is archived, so if 
you need to go back later on you can do so.


 
The shear volume of posts on this listserve is quite intimidating,

and so, I am afraid, I often ignore this listserve as a result.
 
Please accept my apologies, in advance, if this post is at all

presumptuous or offensive.
 
I was warned that this was a very active listserve when I first

joined.  It also seems that there were warnings that the topics
were often "far-reaching". 



   It's not really THAT active, as lists go.  I hope you'll stick around!

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Re: [Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Mike Weaver]

If you switch to a linux-based email system you could use procmail to 
filter the messages for you...otherwise I am sure you can set up filters 
in Microsoft Outhouse
er, Outlook and numerous other clients...

-Weaver

Kurt Schasker wrote:

>
>
> Biofuelers:
> I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually
> participated. 
>  
> I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to
> read only those that directly related to biofuel issues?
>  
>  This listserve is very active, and I really do enjoy reading some
> of the posts, so I am not asking for, nor wanting to, have
> anything change on this listserve.
>  
> However, this list has active threads going right now on solar
> energy, wind energy, converting plastics to oil, recycling,
> outboard motors, and hemp, just to name a few.  By my definition,
> these ar not biofuel topics.  Of course, the readers of this
> listserve may have different definitions.
>  
> So, once again, I do not want anything changed, I just wondered if
> anyone knows a way I could digitally filter out the non-biofuel
> posts so I can read what I want?
>  
> The shear volume of posts on this listserve is quite intimidating,
> and so, I am afraid, I often ignore this listserve as a result.
>  
> Please accept my apologies, in advance, if this post is at all
> presumptuous or offensive.
>  
> I was warned that this was a very active listserve when I first
> joined.  It also seems that there were warnings that the topics
> were often "far-reaching". 
>  
>  
>
>
> 
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[Biofuel] biofuel specific?

[Kurt Schasker]

Biofuelers:
I have been lurking on this list for awhile, but never actually participated.  
 
I am wondering if there is some way I could filter the posts to read only those 
that directly related to biofuel issues?
 
 This listserve is very active, and I really do enjoy reading some of the 
posts, so I am not asking for, nor wanting to, have anything change on this 
listserve. 
 
However, this list has active threads going right now on solar energy, wind 
energy, converting plastics to oil, recycling, outboard motors, and hemp, just 
to name a few.  By my definition, these ar not biofuel topics.  Of course, the 
readers of this listserve may have different definitions.
 
So, once again, I do not want anything changed, I just wondered if anyone knows 
a way I could digitally filter out the non-biofuel posts so I can read what I 
want?
 
The shear volume of posts on this listserve is quite intimidating, and so, I am 
afraid, I often ignore this listserve as a result.
 
Please accept my apologies, in advance, if this post is at all presumptuous or 
offensive.
 
I was warned that this was a very active listserve when I first joined.  It 
also seems that there were warnings that the topics were often "far-reaching".  
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

[Dawie Coetzee]

Sorry Mike, really not my intention. I suppose we all have our areas of intense 
concern, and perforce we need to let other topics slide however much we respect 
the efforts of those dealing with them. And I suppose we are all on the 
perpetual lookout for opportunities to push our pet issues (you are welcome to 
pursue any I inadvertently happen to give you!) My apologies. -Dawie
 


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1


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Message: 7
That's all well and good, Dawie, but, imo, your broadening the focus of the 
post averts attention from the point of the post that our medical freedom is 
under intense fire thereby harming the post by changing the subject.  I know 
this isn't your intent, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good 
intentions.  How does technological freedom enhance our medical freedom?  Help 
us out here and show us how technological freedom enhances medical freedom.  
Thanks.  Mike DuPre



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Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

[Pat Delany]

Phillip
Sorry, I can't help with your problem but maybe you
will know some who would be interested in my
MultiMachine project.

The MultiMachine, an open source, all purpose machine
tool that I originally designed and built and that is
now supported by an over 2700 member newsgroup, can be
built by a semi-skilled mechanic with common hand
tools, no electricity and just discarded car and truck
parts for material. It can solve hundreds of problems
in developing countries.

In agriculture, it can be used to build or repair
irrigation pumps and farm implements.

It can improve potable water supplies by being used to
make and repair water pumps and water well drilling
rigs.

It can be used to build steel rolling and bending
machines to make fuel efficient cook stoves and
hundreds of other products.

In transportation, the machine can be used for
anything from making cart axles to rebuilding truck
clutch and brake parts.

There are many educational uses for MultiMachines
ranging being used to build steel pipe and bar bending
machines that can make school furniture (or almost
anything else) to student built MuliMachines that they
take with them when the graduate.

But mostly the MultiMachine is about making jobs. A
group of specialized MultiMachines can be combined to
form a small metal working factory at extremely low
cost. While teaching a student to become expert at a
MultiMachine's many features may take considerable
time, teaching a single machine function in a small
factory setting would be quite easy. The factory could
also function partly as a low or no cost trade school,
providing an income for students while they were
trained in a wide range of metal working skills.

Sounds too good to be true? Not so. The 2600 member
support group is made up of engineers, machinists and
experimenters who know the machine works!
Additionally,it was featured on the  Make magazine
website at:
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/11/the_open_source_1.html

The details of the MultiMachine are available at the
website address included below. Additionally, there
are plans for electric welders built from vehicle
alternators, a design for an easily built hand-powered
drill that is capable of cutting through the hardest
steel and an easily cast metal alloy that is almost as
strong as cast iron. 

After looking at our site, we ask that you and your
organization help us spread this information to people
whose lives it
can change.
 
People wanting to download the plans etc. will have to
at least temporarily "join" the Yahoo newsgroup, a
task that will only take seconds. We regret that this
is necessary but it is the only way for us to handle
the already huge number of downloads of the 80 page
"How to Build a MultiMachine" book.

This is a humanitarian project, there is no charge for
anything we do.

Feel free to contact me directly for more information
or visit our group site here:
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/multimachine/

Thank you very much

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Palestine, Texas
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> Readers - I believe my inquiry qualifies for your
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> 
> Water Conservation Project Needs Solar Cells -  If
> you
> know of any small solar cell with battery storage
> please send.  I'm working on a project to collect
> data
> from very remote water meters for water conservation
> purposes.  I plan to collect data from 3000 gravity
> driven water meters over a fixed wireless network.
> The
> area is too remote to connect with standard electric
> utility service and ethernet; thus the fixed
> wireless
> netwoork.  Most importantly I need some type of
> solar
> cell with battery storage.  The solar cell needs
> just
> enough voltage to push enough millamp current to
> push
> data through a sensor to a remote terminal unit that
> collects data and sends over my fixed wireless
> network.  So in order to do this I need to power up
> the remote meters with some type of solar cell and
> battery setup.  If you know or have info on any
> small
> sized solar cell with battery storage please send. 
> The water meters are passive and simply collecting
> GPM
> (gallons per minute) information. I need to retrieve
> that information for water conservation purposes. 
> 
> 
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Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

[Joe Street]

Why not just build a system to meet the specs?

J

Phillip Wolfe wrote:

>Readers - I believe my inquiry qualifies for your
>biofuel list as I need info on solar cells. 
>
>Water Conservation Project Needs Solar Cells -  If you
>know of any small solar cell with battery storage
>please send.  I'm working on a project to collect data
>from very remote water meters for water conservation
>purposes.  I plan to collect data from 3000 gravity
>driven water meters over a fixed wireless network. The
>area is too remote to connect with standard electric
>utility service and ethernet; thus the fixed wireless
>netwoork.  Most importantly I need some type of solar
>cell with battery storage.  The solar cell needs just
>enough voltage to push enough millamp current to push
>data through a sensor to a remote terminal unit that
>collects data and sends over my fixed wireless
>network.  So in order to do this I need to power up
>the remote meters with some type of solar cell and
>battery setup.  If you know or have info on any small
>sized solar cell with battery storage please send. 
>The water meters are passive and simply collecting GPM
>(gallons per minute) information. I need to retrieve
>that information for water conservation purposes. 
>
>
>
> 
>
>Don't pick lemons.
>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html 
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[Biofuel] [biofuel] Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

[Phillip Wolfe]

Readers - I believe my inquiry qualifies for your
biofuel list as I need info on solar cells. 

Water Conservation Project Needs Solar Cells -  If you
know of any small solar cell with battery storage
please send.  I'm working on a project to collect data
from very remote water meters for water conservation
purposes.  I plan to collect data from 3000 gravity
driven water meters over a fixed wireless network. The
area is too remote to connect with standard electric
utility service and ethernet; thus the fixed wireless
netwoork.  Most importantly I need some type of solar
cell with battery storage.  The solar cell needs just
enough voltage to push enough millamp current to push
data through a sensor to a remote terminal unit that
collects data and sends over my fixed wireless
network.  So in order to do this I need to power up
the remote meters with some type of solar cell and
battery setup.  If you know or have info on any small
sized solar cell with battery storage please send. 
The water meters are passive and simply collecting GPM
(gallons per minute) information. I need to retrieve
that information for water conservation purposes. 



 

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[Biofuel] Biofuel from Grass

[robert and benita rabello]

   It's a little short on specifics, but it's an interesting story:

 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6594253

robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
"The Long Journey"
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

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[Biofuel] Biofuel producer taps into growing state interest

[D. Mindock]

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/3186023.shtml

Sunday, October 01, 2006
Biofuel producer taps into growing state interest

By COLIN HICKEY
Staff Writer
Copyright © 2006 Blethen Maine Newspapers Inc.


Staff photo by Jim Evans
Shane Cole pumps used cooking oil out of a holding tank so that it can be 
converted into biofuel, replacing diesel.


VASSALBORO -- Randy Bean wants your grease, the more the better, and it 
won't cost you a cent, but it might bring you a cleaner, safer and more 
affordable world.

That's the potential of Green Bean Bio-Fuel, the startup biofuel production 
company that Bean started inside an old steel warehouse about a mile and a 
half off U.S. Route 201.

Green Bean Bio-Fuel is the only company in the state producing biofuel for 
commercial sale, processing about 2,000 gallons of biofuel each week from 
the waste fryolator oil -- collected from about 200 restaurants and food 
preparation businesses in Maine and New Hampshire.

That biofuel is then sold chiefly to businesses operating trucks that used 
to be powered by diesel fuel.
Beth Nagusky, who heads the state's Office of Energy Independence and 
Security, confirms Bean's exclusive status.

"Randy is unique for now," she said. "There isn't anybody else (in the 
state) doing what he is doing right now."
Put 100 percent pure biofuel in your truck and your compression-ignition 
engine should work just fine.

Waterville resident Craig Lefebvre, who owns a mobile paper-shredding 
business, is one of Bean's happy customers.

He has run his three trucks on biofuel for the last two months without a 
single hiccup, and when his shredders on wheels are on site chewing away, 
their emissions are customer friendly: Instead of noxious fumes, you get a 
sweet fragrance.

"It is clean burning," Lefebvre. "It is a barbecue grill."

Made from renewable sources, biofuel -- methyl esters is the chemical 
name -- has lower emissions than petroleum, is less toxic than table salt 
and biodegrades as fast as sugar, according to the National Biodiesel Board.

Switching to biofuel also makes the United States less dependent on foreign 
oil, a goal the U.S. government is increasingly touting given the 
instability in the Middle East and the concern caused over skyrocketing 
price increases in oil in recent years.

For a time this summer, Bean's selling price of $2.63 a gallon for biofuel 
was more than 40 cents cheaper than the price for diesel. That price 
advantage has since closed significantly, but biofuel, especially if its 
production increases significantly, could at the very least serve as a 
control on oil prices by providing competition.

"I'm not a greenie, per se," Bean said, "but when you read about all the 
benefits of this fuel to the atmosphere as far as the greenhouse effect and 
everything, this stuff is awesome."

Bean will be upping his biofuel production dramatically before year's end. 
He plans to have a replacement factory open in about two months that should 
boost his annual yield from about 100,000 gallons to about 835,000 gallons.

"Our big thing the next four or five years is to introduce biofuel in a good 
manner," Bean said, "and let people choose whether they want to buy it. If 
we make a good product at a good price, I think they will (buy it)."

RESTAURANT WINDFALL

Liberty Square Restaurant in Winslow, like most eateries that fry food, ends 
up with a lot of grease to get rid of at the end of the day. Disposal used 
to be an expense. Then Bean's Commercial Grease appeared.
Nowadays Liberty Square uses the collection side of Randy Bean's biofuel 
operation exclusively, and the expense has disappeared -- Bean picks up at 
no charge. Owners, Dan and Missy Hussey, couldn't be happier.
"It is an awesome program," Missy Hussey said. "It used to cost us $100 a 
month (to get rid of the waste oil)."
Bean figures he saves the food industry he serves -- he has about 200 
customers -- about $200,000 a year, ranging from $80 to $100 a month for the 
small independent restaurant, to $10,000 or more for a company that has a 
chain of restaurants.

Yet more exciting is the potential Bean's operation could have for both the 
environmental and economic health of Maine as a whole.

Peter Arnold, a renewable energy expert with the Chewonki Foundation, a 
Wiscasset-based educational group, has been making biofuel for several 
years, although not for commercial sale. In fact, he is the one who helped 
teach Bean the process.

Arnold said if Maine were to make use of its used fryolator oil, vegetable 
crop and considerable wood resources, the state would have the potential to 
produce slightly more than 200 million gallons of biofuel annually, or about 
one third of Maine's current diesel need.

"What Randy is doing is the initiation of Maine jumping into the fuel 
business in a way we have never been able to do before," he said, "because 
we can make biofuel in Maine. This is the beginning of it."

How quickly -- if ever --

[Biofuel] Biofuel tree

[Pagandai Pannirselvam]

Hi Keith and  Peter   Brazil is a very big country ,we are in the
Northeast , the Amazonian forest is in the north about 4-5 hours  air
travel from our place.The seed of the native plants can be
easily obtained as there are several natural products  small business
is there in several forest areas.
    The amazonian copaiba oil is available as  , the medicinal value of this plant is well in the regioes.  
As this natural seed collection can really help the very poor people in
the very  lees developed are , we wish to help  any one in the list to
get the seeds.
   Thanking to bringing very viable alternative bio fuel plants that can make better life  for many . This is how  we can make use of the natural selection sdPannirselvam
-- Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos e ProcessosDEQ – Departamento de Engenharia QuímicaCT – Centro de Tecnologia / UFRN, Lagoa Nova – Natal/RNCampus Universitário. CEP: 59.072-970
http://pannirbr.googlepages.com/gpecufrnhomepage3215-3769   ramal 210casa 3215-1557
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Re: [Biofuel] BIOFUEL REPORT

[Irwin Levinson]

 
Biodiesel Guys
HERE IS A REPORT ON BIODIESEL BY A CHEMIST INVOLVED IN PRODUCING THE CONPONENTS IN THE US; ITS BEING GIVEN AS OUTLINED BELOW; ANY BODY IN THE CHICAGO AREA INTERESTED IN SAME SHOULD BE THERE.
Irv Levinson
 
Monday, September 11th:  On The Road Again: The Biodiesel Journey
 
Summary:
 
Three key forces-- politics of global warming, economics of global petrochemicals, and interests of regional agribusiness—are coming into alignment and have created an opportunity for the rapid growth of biodiesel produced from fats and oils.  There is a land-rush underway, and the winners will be those who have an understanding of the chemistry and process technologies necessary to access multiple feedstocks, as well as the capability to utilize the products and by-products in markets that can absorb the inevitable fluctuations in raw material and product pricing.  Further, producers will need the ability to adjust to changes in regional, national, and international incentive structures as they impact the very local marketplace.  The oleochemical supply chain is not well connected today to the petro-diesel supply chain, and so a steep learning curve and capital infusion is occurring to address the quality, performance, and supply issues.
 
Matt Levinson Bio:
 
Dr. Matthew Levinson received his Ph.D. in Chemistry from the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA in 1984 and completed the 162nd session of the Advanced Management Program at the Harvard Business School in 2002.  He has worked in the chemical processing industry since 1983 spending 3 years in the Agricultural Chemical Group of FMC Corporation in Princeton, NJ, and 1 year with ANGUS Chemical in Northbrook, IL before joining Stepan Company, Northfield, IL in 1987.   At Stepan he has held various positions within the Surfactant Research & Development Department including 5 years in the Synthesis Group, and 13 years in ascending leadership roles within the Product Development Group through the position of V.P. of Product Development-Surfactants, supporting all of the consumer and industrial applications of the Stepan’s surfactant product line.  In 2005 he took on the position of V.P. Global Process Development, leading the department responsible for the development, scale-up, implementation and support for all new and existing chemical processes practiced in Stepan’s 15 global manufacturing facilities for both the Surfactant and Polymer businesses.  He is an inventor and co-inventor on numerous patents, published journal articles and reviews, and podium presentations delivered to technical and professional associations affiliated with the surfactants industry.
 
TMAC’s September meeting will be held at Wellington of Arlington just north of I90 on Arlington Heights Road:
 
Wellington of Arlington
2121 South Arlington Heights Road (east side of road, set well back from two adjoining buildings)
Arlington Heights, IL   60005
847.439.6610/Barbara
www.WellingtonBanquets.com
 
Networking begins at 5 pm, followed by dinner and the presentation.  Cost for dinner/meetings is $35 for Members, Guests of Members and Member Proxies, and $45 for all others.  We encourage you to consider supporting TMAC by becoming a Member for an annual fee of $45.  For more information and to register, please visit our website at
 
http://www.TechnologyManagementChicago.org
 
If the website hasn’t been updated before you get to it, just go to the registration page. You can also use the non-member charge of $45 to pay your 2006-7 membership dues. Just send me a note and it will be recorded as such.
 
About TMAC
 
TMAC consists of managers from companies with extensive R&D capabilities, technology entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in keeping their business apprised of emerging technologies. At each meeting there is a presentation by a company, researcher, or other expert on topics of interest, with an emphasis on keeping members informed of new technologies and business practices of use to technical managers. TMAC provides an opportunity to network with other key technologists and entrepreneurs in the Chicago Metropolitan area.  The complexity of today’s business environment coupled with the diverse technologies necessary to develop new and innovative products or services can be served through this indirect network, offering access to complimentary knowledge that can lead to information and knowledge advantages. The meetings consist of a social/networking hour from 5 to 6 pm, dinner from 6 to 7 pm, and a presentation with interactive Q&A’s from 7 to 8 pm.
 


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members

[M&K DuPree]

Hi Mark...wonderful email...pat yourself on the back too  Mike DuPree

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Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members


> Each and every time I check my emails [EMAIL PROTECTED], it
> gives me a warm feeling inside. The fact that there are people in the 
> world
> like yourselves, who are making a differance in the right direction.
> What ever continent what ever politics what ever colour or race, you 
> should
> all be very proud of your selves  [A big pat on your back!!].
> At times I am sure we all doubt our selves, but with this list, dreams of
> the impossible can and have been over come.
> I too am on that road and with time I know I will get there.
>
> A big thank you too you all.
>
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[Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members

[Mark` Cookson]

Each and every time I check my emails [EMAIL PROTECTED], it 
gives me a warm feeling inside. The fact that there are people in the world 
like yourselves, who are making a differance in the right direction.
What ever continent what ever politics what ever colour or race, you should 
all be very proud of your selves  [A big pat on your back!!].
At times I am sure we all doubt our selves, but with this list, dreams of 
the impossible can and have been over come.
I too am on that road and with time I know I will get there.

A big thank you too you all.

Mark



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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel rental car Toronto?

[Jesse Frayne]

--- Sam Critchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know if I can rent a B100 biodiesel or
> E85 ethanol mix powered car in the Toronto area? I'm
> off there tomorrow for a couple of weeks and we want
> to rent a car to get around. I run B100 in my car at
> home here in the Netherlands, but haven't seen any
> biofuel rental places on the web for Toronto.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Sam
> 
>I don't see any specific biofuel car rentals, but
AutoShare has smartcars and hybrids...
See CarSharing.ca
Jesse
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[Biofuel] Biofuel rental car Toronto?

[Sam Critchley]

Hi,

Does anyone know if I can rent a B100 biodiesel or E85 ethanol mix powered car 
in the Toronto area? I'm off there tomorrow for a couple of weeks and we want 
to rent a car to get around. I run B100 in my car at home here in the 
Netherlands, but haven't seen any biofuel rental places on the web for Toronto.

Thanks in advance,


Sam



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[Biofuel] Biofuel energy gains and environmental impact study

[MH]

Researchers Assess Life-Cycle Impact of Soy Biodiesel and Corn Ethanol
 11 July 2006
 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/researchers_ass.html 

 Soybean biodiesel returns 93% more energy than is used to produce it,
 while corn grain ethanol currently provides only 25% more energy.

 Soybean biodiesel produces 41% less greenhouse gas emissions than diesel fuel
 whereas corn grain ethanol produces 12% less greenhouse gas emissions than 
gasoline.

 --- 
 U of M researchers identify energy gains and environmental impacts
 of corn ethanol and soybean biodiesel and propose alternatives
 for the next generation of biofuels
 
http://www.ur.umn.edu/FMPro?-db=releases&-lay=web&-format=umnnewsreleases/releasesdetail.html&ID=3113&-Find

 Who:
   Jason Hill, postdoctoral researcher and lead author, University of Minnesota
   David Tilman, Regents Professor of Ecology and co-author, University of 
Minnesota 
   Doug Tiffany, research fellow, applied economics, University of Minnesota
 Contact:
   Mark Cassutt, University News Service, (612) 624-8038
   Peggy Rinard, College of Biological Sciences, (612) 624-0774


 MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (7/10/2006) -- The first comprehensive analysis
 of the full life cycles of soybean biodiesel and corn grain ethanol shows that
 biodiesel has much less of an impact on the environment and a much higher net
 energy benefit than corn ethanol, but that neither can do much to meet U.S.
 energy demand. 

 The study, which was funded in part by the University of Minnesota’s Initiative
 for Renewable Energy and the Environment, was conducted by researchers in
 the university’s College of Biological Sciences and College of Food,
 Agricultural and Natural Resource Sciences. The study will be published online
 July 12 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
 http://www.pnas.org/ 

 The researchers tracked all the energy used for growing corn and soybeans and
 converting the crops into biofuels. They also looked at how much fertilizer and
 pesticide corn and soybeans required and how much greenhouse gases and
 nitrogen, phosphorus, and pesticide pollutants each released into the
 environment.

 "Quantifying the benefits and costs of biofuels throughout their life cycles 
allows
 us not only to make sound choices today but also to identify better biofuels 
for
 the future," said Jason Hill, a postdoctoral researcher in the department of
 ecology, evolution, and behavior and the department of applied economics and
 lead author of the study.

 The study showed that both corn grain ethanol and soybean biodiesel produce
 more energy than is needed to grow the crops and convert them into biofuels.
 This finding refutes other studies claiming that these biofuels require more
 energy to produce than they provide. The amount of energy each returns differs
 greatly, however. Soybean biodiesel returns 93 percent more energy than is
 used to produce it, while corn grain ethanol currently provides only 25 percent
 more energy.

 Still, the researchers caution that neither biofuel can come close to meeting 
the
 growing demand for alternatives to petroleum. Dedicating all current U.S. corn
 and soybean production to biofuels would meet only 12 percent of gasoline
 demand and 6 percent of diesel demand. Meanwhile, global population growth
 and increasingly affluent societies will increase demand for corn and soybeans
 for food.

 The authors showed that the environmental impacts of the two biofuels also
 differ. Soybean biodiesel produces 41 percent less greenhouse gas emissions
 than diesel fuel whereas corn grain ethanol produces 12 percent less
 greenhouse gas emissions than gasoline. Soybeans have another environmental
 advantage over corn because they require much less nitrogen fertilizer and
 pesticides, which get into groundwater, streams, rivers and oceans. These
 agricultural chemicals pollute drinking water, and nitrogen decreases
 biodiversity in global ecosystems. Nitrogen fertilizer, mainly from corn, 
causes
 the 'dead zone' in the Gulf of Mexico.

 "We did this study to learn from ethanol and biodiesel," says David Tilman,
 Regents Professor of Ecology and a co-author of the study. "Producing biofuel
 for transportation is a fledgling industry. Corn ethanol and soybean biodiesel 
are
 successful first generation biofuels. The next step is a biofuel crop that 
requires
 low chemical and energy inputs and can give us much greater energy and
 environmental returns. Prairie grasses have great potential."

 Biofuels such as switchgrass, mixed prairie grasses and woody plants produced
 on marginally productive agricultural land or biofuels produced from 
agricultural
 or forestry waste have the potential to provide much larger biofuel supplies 
with
 greater environmental benefits than corn ethanol and soybean biodiesel.

 According to Douglas Tiffany, research fellow, department of applied
 economics and another co-author of the study, ethanol and biodiesel plants are
 early bior

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel International seminar In BRASIL :Food Vs Fuel.

[Juan Boveda]

Hello Pannirselvam.
I went to that page using the link you gave us.
It has links to some acrobat files after I downloaded I discovered they 
were the programs for the conference.
Some of them I find interesting.
Unluckily, I could not find the works published there.
Do you know if there will be some of the lectures or works available in the 
near future for online downloading?
I do not have much trouble with Portuguese as I discovered, it is ease to 
read for me since Spanish is very similar
Best Regards.

Juan
Pilar - Paraguay


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Enviado el: viernes 23 de junio de 2006 9:08
Para:   biofuel@sustainablelists.org; gpecufrn
Asunto: [Biofuel] Biofuel International seminar In BRASIL :Food Vs Fuel.

   I have participated  6 -8 July  very well organized seminar  on the 
distributed energy system and biofuel .The  conference proceeding are 
available  in Portuguese language in the following  links..
  http://www.nipeunicamp.org.br/agrener2006/tematicas.htm

  Mostly the developed world has participated , mainly from Europe also 
from south and Central America , Venezuela, Cuba.

  Even though it is possible the less developed country can produce  the 
bio ethanol , half the price , some country in the the Europe is making 
this from wheat  and  beet sugar.The same is also the case for the BioD, 
making fuel from food  soya beans and canola


  The true sustainable small scale biofuel is an experimental stages for 
the Amazonian areas. There is found to be lack of  not only biofuel , but 
also the food.The rich place need an integrated food , feed and biofuel.

 Any of the  conventional  electrical system is found to be not 
 sustainable to the areas. Biomass energy  can be the system appropriate to 
this areas.The Brazilian  EMBRAPA, the agroresearch center has come up 
using novel , simple pyrolysis  of vegetable oils  to make biofuel  and has 
shown to be more  appropriate to this areas.

If any in remote rural area like Amazonian rain forest is from our 
Biofuel list members , it is possible we can  come out all together  to 
make  some new biofuel , which  need to be very simple and practical , as 
the aces to this place are very difficult and the value of the fuel are 10 
time more  normal price and yet not available.
  I expect help from our list members from Malaysia and other remote place.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel International seminar In BRASIL :Food Vs Fuel.

[pan ruti]

   I have participated  6 -8 July  very well organized seminar  on the distributed energy system and biofuel .The  conference proceeding are available  in Portuguese language in the following  links..  http://www.nipeunicamp.org.br/agrener2006/tematicas.htm     Mostly the developed world has participated , mainly from Europe also from south and Central America , Venezuela, Cuba.      Even though it is possible the less developed country can produce  the bio ethanol , half the price , some country in the the Europe is making this from wheat  and  beet sugar.The same is also the case for the BioD, making fuel from food  soya beans and canola         The true sustainable small scale biofuel is an experimental stages for the Amazonian
 areas. There is found to be lack of  not only biofuel , but also the food.The rich place need an integrated food , feed and biofuel.        Any of the  conventional  electrical system is found to be not  sustainable to the areas. Biomass energy  can be the system appropriate to this areas.The Brazilian  EMBRAPA, the agroresearch center has come up using novel , simple pyrolysis  of vegetable oils  to make biofuel  and has shown to be more  appropriate to this areas.       If any in remote rural area like Amazonian rain forest is from our Biofuel list members , it is possible we can  come out all together  to make  some new biofuel , which  need to be very simple and practical , as the aces to this place are very difficult and the value of the fuel are 10 time more  normal price and yet not available.  I expect help
 from our list members from Malaysia and other remote place.     sd  Pannirselvam P.V  www.gpechp.cjb.net          
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[Biofuel] biofuel stations in Canada: Map?

[mark manchester]

Hello everyone,
Last year on this list I saw a map of gas stations in the U.S. supplying
biofuel.  I printed it and posted it on my refrigerator in a whimsical way.

But NOW!!!  I'm driving to B.C. to pick up a daughter this August, she is
switching to McGill U. and transferring all her hard-earned engineering
credits.  Along the route I can stop off here and there, I'm invited to give
some readings at bookstores, and I'll be veering off the TransCanada to see
the scenery.  It'll be great.

MY POINT!  Does anyone know of a biofuel gaspump supplier Map of Canada?
Every country should have such a map, but do we?  I could certainly
contribute to this map, as I go... but maybe this is reinventing the wheel.
Cheers, Jesse


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[Biofuel] Biofuel conferences

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AOCS Announces 97th Annual Meeting & Expo in St. Louis, Missouri
http://www.soyatech.com/bluebook/news/sponsor.ldml?a=33421

http://www.aocs.org/meetings/annual_mtg/
http://www.aocs.org/meetings/biodiesel/am06/

Short Course on Biodiesel: Market Trends, Chemistry, and Production • April
29-30
   Option #1: Short Course registration only
 AOCS Member$495$595
 Nonmember  $595$695
 Student$165$195
   Option #2: Short Course registration plus The Biodiesel Handbook and
Industrial Uses of Vegetable Oils
 AOCS Member$575$675
 Nonmember  $685$785


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Co-operative meeting reminder

[Kenji James Fuse]

Hey Andrew,

Glad to hear the meeting's happening soon. Please keep me posted as to
where it leads.

Kenji Fuse

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Andrew Netherton wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> This is a reminder for the first meeting of the Waterloo biofuel
> co-operative.  The meeting is on Tuesday, March 14th at 7pm in
> Waterloo.  The location is Sobeys at 450 Columbia Street (at
> Fischer-Hallman) in Waterloo in the community room upstairs (enter and
> go left).
>
> Please feel free to forward this message on to anyone else that may be
> interested in either attending or following our progress.  If you have
> previously cross-posted information about this meeting on another mail
> list or forum, please post this reminder as well.  Any questions can
> be forwarded to myself.
>
> Thanks, and see you there!
>
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[Biofuel] Biofuel Co-operative meeting reminder

[Andrew Netherton]

Greetings,

This is a reminder for the first meeting of the Waterloo biofuel
co-operative.  The meeting is on Tuesday, March 14th at 7pm in
Waterloo.  The location is Sobeys at 450 Columbia Street (at
Fischer-Hallman) in Waterloo in the community room upstairs (enter and
go left).

Please feel free to forward this message on to anyone else that may be
interested in either attending or following our progress.  If you have
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list or forum, please post this reminder as well.  Any questions can
be forwarded to myself.

Thanks, and see you there!

Andrew Netherton

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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Co-operative preliminary meeting, Waterloo, ON

[Keith Addison]

Well done Joe and Andrew, best of good luck and strength to yer 
elbows. I hope you get good attendance at the meeting.

By the way, does anyone know what became of the Vancouver Recycling 
Alternative nee the Vancouver Biodiesel Co-Op? See:

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg55179.html
[Biofuel] Vancouver Biodiesel Co-Op Re-Release
Vincent zadworny
Sat, 10 Sep 2005

All best

Keith



>Greetings,
>
>You are invited to attend the first meeting to help plan and shape a
>biofuel co-operative headquartered in Waterloo.  In attendance will be
>Joe Street, who has developed a reliable biodiesel reactor and started
>http://www.nonprofitfuel.ca in order to promote biofuels.  My name is
>Andrew Netherton, and I'm assisting Joe in the organization and
>administration of this group.
>
>We will be meeting on Monday, March 6th at 7pm in Waterloo.  The
>location is Sobeys at 450 Columbia Street (at Fischer-Hallman) in
>Waterloo in the community room upstairs (enter and go left).  There is
>no set agenda to the meeting, but the focus will be on organizing the
>group, what structure would serve us best, and a vision for what we'd
>like to accomplish in the short, medium, and long term.  And of
>course, meeting and greeting each other!
>
>Please feel free to forward this message on to anyone else that may be
>interested in either attending or following our progress.  Any
>questions can be forwarded to myself.
>
>Thanks, and see you there!
>
>Regards,
>Andrew Netherton


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 10, Issue 49/LPG injection

[Brett Dobmeier]

Thanks for the comments Larry     Your correct in stating that you have to watch how puch propane or horsepower you put to it.  I forgot to mention that this particular kit has the first variable flow rate injection, which is in direct proportion to the turbo boost generated.  This regulates the propane depending on if your going through cities or pulling big grades, which makes since since going through town won't require as much boost, and saves the valuable propane for when it's really needed.  The kits I have seen for light duty diesels in pickups I believe are just either on/off.  Thanks again or your comment  BrettLarry Ruebush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   BrettI had LPG injection on a IH 806D farm tractor 40 years ago. Worked fine, but you have to watch adding to much or
 it can be hard on the engine, too much horsepower. A trucker friend of mine had been using it on a truck years before that, so this isn't a new thing. The kit I used back then was called a "PowerMizer" I believe.Larry Ruebushwest central IL>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 10, Issue 49/LPG injection

[Larry Ruebush]

Brett
I had LPG injection on a IH 806D farm tractor 40 years ago. Worked fine, but 
you have to watch adding to much or it can be hard on the engine, too much 
horsepower. A trucker friend of mine had been using it on a truck years 
before that, so this isn't a new thing. The kit I used back then was called 
a "PowerMizer" I believe.
Larry Ruebush
west central IL
>
> On 2/18/06, Brett Dobmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello all
>>
>> I have been reading most everything that has come through this list for 
>> many
>> years but haven't posted anything very often.
>>
>> I am an Owner/Operator as well as fleet owner of Class 8 trucks that pull
>> belly dump trailers for road construction and then hopper bottoms during 
>> the
>> winter months.
>>
>> I have run across a new product in a truck magazine and had a few 
>> questions
>> that I'm sure some of you could answer.
>>
>> The product is a propane injection kit suitable for electronic and
>> mechanical engines which the company claims will increase a trucks 
>> mileage
>> by at least 2 MPG or your money back, with a 100% success ratio thus far,
>> and I suppose I've seen it for two months now.  The brochure goes on to
>> claim a nearly 100% fuel burn with the propane catalyst, compared to a 
>> 75%
>> burn ratio with out the propane.
>>
>> I've seen similar trucks for light duty diesels with mileage increase, 
>> horse
>> power, and torque claims, but this is the first time I've seen it for 
>> heavy
>> duty Class 8 type trucks, which are in the neighborhood of 400-625 horses
>> and 15 to 16 liters.
>>
>> With such a claim of a 100% burn rate, would that in turn reduce the
>> emissions of the big diesel engines, or by adding the propane to the 
>> mixture
>> would that put the emission level at the stack back to the normal rate?
>>
>> I was curious since 2007 is bringing a big hammer down on the trucking
>> industry with emission levels, and if the total burn of fuel would in 
>> turn
>> affect emission levels to acceptable levels or not.  The retro fits to 
>> the
>> big diesel engines to meet the new stringent emissions levels will cost
>> between $5000-10,000 extra per unit, while at the same time reducing 
>> overall
>> mileage by 10%-25% because of the extra equipment and trinkets that each
>> engine must have now.
>>
>> I look forward to your comments and input.
>>
>> Thanks for your time
>>
>> Brett
>>



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[Biofuel] Biofuel Co-operative preliminary meeting, Waterloo, ON

[Andrew Netherton]

Greetings,

You are invited to attend the first meeting to help plan and shape a
biofuel co-operative headquartered in Waterloo.  In attendance will be
Joe Street, who has developed a reliable biodiesel reactor and started
http://www.nonprofitfuel.ca in order to promote biofuels.  My name is
Andrew Netherton, and I'm assisting Joe in the organization and
administration of this group.

We will be meeting on Monday, March 6th at 7pm in Waterloo.  The
location is Sobeys at 450 Columbia Street (at Fischer-Hallman) in
Waterloo in the community room upstairs (enter and go left).  There is
no set agenda to the meeting, but the focus will be on organizing the
group, what structure would serve us best, and a vision for what we'd
like to accomplish in the short, medium, and long term.  And of
course, meeting and greeting each other!

Please feel free to forward this message on to anyone else that may be
interested in either attending or following our progress.  Any
questions can be forwarded to myself.

Thanks, and see you there!

Regards,
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel] Winter woes

[Vin Lava]

Hi Keith,
 
> I also found a 5-litre LPG tank, still full, which we're now using> for process pre-heating because our $8 "roarer" kero pressure stove> from India broke a pressure valve and there's not much hope of
> getting a replacement. It lasted nearly three years, not bad. I'd> really like to get another kero pressure stove, we ran it on 100%> biodiesel with no problems but we were only about halfway through
> tests on using mixes of kero and SVO to help reduce kero costs and> use in 3rd World countries, since lots of people have asked us for> help with that. If anyone in India or Southeast Asia would be
> prepared to buy one locally and ship it to us if we paid for> everything we'd be most grateful.I see a lot of those stoves here. Some are gravity-fed, some have a small pump to build up pressure. I'm going to Manila's Chinatown today and will look for the kerosene stove you want. I'll let you know how it goes and we can work from there. You want the stove with a pump? How many do you need? :-)
> All best - stay warm, try not to listen to the mocking laughter of> those among us who have the good sound sense to live south of the> Equator.
 
Brrr. It's cold here - 24 Celsius at 14 deg 37 min North. :-)Regards.
 
Vin Lava
Manila, Philippines 
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel for model Aircraft

[Keith Addison]

>On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Jeffrey Kumjian wrote:
>
> > Can you tell me how to make Bio diesel for a model
> > Aircraft? Jeffrey

He got a few replies too. But I'll bet he's none the wiser.

Maybe it'll come as a big surprise, but actually we've discussed 
running biodiesel in model aircraft engines before over the last six 
years, a few times, lots of messages. And indeed we sorted it all out 
- which model aircraft engines are diesels and which aren't, where 
you can get them, and what fuel you can run in them. All of which 
you'll find right here, in the - ta-daa! - list archives.

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg38910.html
Re: [Biofuel] Model fuel

Man, am I tired of having to do that!!!

Do it yourself next time!

Why bother? Because if we'd had a fresh look at what we'd already 
established maybe something new and useful might've come of it. Well, 
maybe it still will.

It's a stated requirement of list membership that members make use of 
the list resources. Be warned!

CHECK THE LIST ARCHIVES FIRST.

Keith Addison
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel for model Aircraft

[dwoodard]

Back in the 50's I had an .049 cu. in diesel for model planes that used a
special fuel. Ether was a main ingredient. Don't assume that a diesel for
models has similar fuel requirements to a big engine.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario


On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Jeffrey Kumjian wrote:

> Can you tell me how to make Bio diesel for a model
> Aircraft? Jeffrey

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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel for model Aircraft

[Zeke Yewdall]

I imagine it would be the same as biodiesel for anything else.  I
wasn't aware that you could run diesel in model aircraft engines
though.

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[Biofuel] Biofuel for model Aircraft

[Jeffrey Kumjian]

Can you tell me how to make Bio diesel for a model
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[Biofuel] Biofuel car rental near Washington, DC?

[Sam Critchley]

Hi,

This Wednesday I'll be flying from Amsterdam to Washington, DC (arriving Dulles 
airport in mid afternoon), and spending some time in DC and Virginia until next 
week Monday.

Does anyone know of an organisation which rents biofuel-powered vehicles in the 
area?

Thanks,


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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel plants in Singapore

[leegerry]

Hi,
Suddenly out of the blue, we are going to have two companies in Singapore
producing biodiesel for Europe. Hopefully we may have access to it in
future.

Article from Green Car Congress:

Singapore Gets its First Two Biodiesel Plants
 October 26, 2005


 Two separate ventures announced plans to build biodiesel plants in
 Singapore, the first such there. Most of the output is intended for
 export.


 Both plants will be built on Jurong Island, Singapore’s petrochemicals
 hub.


 The Cremer Gruppe will invest up to S$34 million (US$20.1 million) in a
 plant with a capacity of 200,000 metric tons, and expects it to be online
 by the end of the first quarter in 2007. The company plans two additional
 plants within five years.


 The second biodiesel plant, with a capacity of 150,000 metric tons, is a
 joint venture between Wilmar Holdings and Archer Daniels Midland Company.
 Wilmar plans to invest S$50 million (US$30 million) and have the plant
 operational by the end of 2006. The plant can support a doubling of its
 capacity to 300,000 tonnes per year.


 From Singapore, the plants will have easy access to palm oil feedstock
 from Malaysia and Indonesia.
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 6, Issue 95 Quickie question on titration

[Matt Yarrison]

Dear All-
I have a really quick question here: The Phenopthalein solution I use 
is a
1% in IPA (reagent grade from Sigma-Aldrich). This should be appropriate for
titrating WVO with a 1 normal (1g/l) solution of NaOH in DI water, with the
comversion being 1mL of NaOH added corresponding to 1 additonal gram of NaOH
needed above the 3.5 g required? I use 10 ML of the IPA/PHTH solution to 1mL
of WVO. I've worked out the chemistry, the numbers seem right, but I just
want to make sure that the 1% PHTH is about what everyone else out there
uses so I'm not getting screwball results.
Thanks
- Matt

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[Biofuel] [biofuel] serious energy problem?

[MH]

 "Why have we not been able to get together
 as a nation to resolve our serious energy problem?" 

 David Morris: Carter's
 brave vision on energy
 October 7, 2005 
 http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5657601.html and
 http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&newsid=9808&url=
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5657601.html 

 SYNOPSIS: Unlike the energy legislation of the late 1970s,
 this current act does not target imported oil. Indeed, it contains
 virtually nothing that would reduce our reliance on oil. 

   George W. Bush asking Americans to save oil by driving less reminds me
   of Jimmy Carter wearing a cardigan sweater and asking Americans to save
   oil by turning down our thermostats and, yes, by driving less. 

   But former President Carter was asking for individual sacrifice as a small
   part of an aggressive, national campaign. President Bush is asking for
   individual sacrifice instead of a national initiative. 

   Carter gave his first energy speech in February 1977. In July 1979, four
   months before Americans were taken hostage in Iran, he delivered his fifth
   energy address. To this day, that speech and its aftermath illuminate the
   profound differences between the way Democrats and Republicans
   address the oil crisis.

   "Ten days ago I had planned to speak to you again about a very important
   subject -- energy," Carter began. "But as I was preparing to speak, I
   began to ask myself the same question that I now know has been troubling
   many of you. Why have we not been able to get together as a nation to
   resolve our serious energy problem?"

   He told us he had set his speech aside and talked to hundreds of
   individuals. His conclusion? Americans had lost confidence in our capacity
   to act decisively and collectively to address and solve our problems.
   Republicans quickly dubbed the address the "malaise speech."

   But to Carter the energy crisis offered an opportunity to regain our sense
   of hopefulness and national self-confidence. "Energy will be the immediate
   test of our ability to unite this nation, and it can also be the standard 
around
   which we rally," he observed. "On the battlefield of energy we can win for
   our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our
   common destiny ... . It can rekindle our sense of unity, our confidence in
   the future, and give our nation and all of us individually a new sense of
   purpose."

   Carter established a clear goal. "Beginning this moment, this nation will
   never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on,
   every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own
   production and our own conservation." By the end of the 1980s, the nation
   would reduce "our dependence on foreign oil by one-half."

   To achieve these goals Carter requested of Congress "the most massive
   peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to
   develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil
   shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the
   sun."

   For Carter, fairness was to be an important criterion in shaping energy
   policy. Since the poor suffer most from rising energy prices, "Our nation
   must be fair to the poorest among us, so we will increase aid to needy
   Americans to cope with rising energy prices ... ." 

   Carter also applied the principle to the other end of the wealth spectrum:
   the oil companies reaping enormous profits because of OPEC-inspired
   price hikes.

   "Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay," Carter
   insisted. "It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that 
we
   ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
   Americans to Americans."

   Congress enacted much of what Jimmy Carter proposed. Coupled with
   the energy-efficiency standards for cars enacted by an earlier Democratic
   Congress, and the passage in 1978 of five energy bills directed at spurring
   energy efficiency and renewable energy, the Energy Security Act of 1980
   created a comprehensive and coherent energy policy directed toward
   eliminating our dependence on imported oil. 

   Why don't we remember this? In part, because Ronald Reagan entered
   office only a year after Carter's speech and immediately set about
   dismantling or dramatically cutting back most of the programs enacted in
   the 1970s. The energy crisis subsided. A severe worldwide economic
   downturn in 1981 and 1982 cut the price of crude oil by 75 percent.
   Depending on imported oil didn't seem so important. The nation dropped
   back into lethargy.

   Fast-forward to 2005. The price of oil again doubles. The
   Republican-controlled Congress passes an omnibus energy bill. But unlike
   the energy legislation of the late 1970s, this one does not target imported
   oil. Indeed, it contains virtually nothing that woul

[Biofuel] [biofuel] torturing people

[MH]

 "Remember, we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was
 such a horrible brute that he tortured people." 

 Bush approval dips below 40 percent   NBC-WSJ poll shows
 only 28 percent believe U.S. headed in right direction 
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672058/ 

 The outrage of the week
 GOP stands up for U.S. right to torture 
 Molly Ivins 
 Creators Syndicate
 10.11.05 
 http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=19727 

 AUSTIN, Texas -- On one of those television gong
 shows that passes for journalism, the panelists
 used to have to pick an Outrage of the Week.
 Then, each performer would wax indignant about
 his or choice for 60 seconds or so. If someone
 asked me to name the Outrage of the Week about
 now, I'd have a coronary. How could anyone
 possibly choose? 

 I suppose the frontrunner is the anti-torture
 amendment. Sen. John McCain proposed an
 amendment to the military appropriations bill that
 would prohibit "cruel, inhuman or degrading"
 treatment of prisoners in the custody of the U.S.
 military. 

 This may strike you as a "goes without saying"
 proposition -- the amendment passed the Senate
 90 to nine. The United States has been signing
 anti-torture treaties under Democrats and
 Republicans for at least 50 years. But the Bush
 administration actually managed to find some
 weasel words to create a loophole in this
 longstanding commitment to civilized behavior. 

 According to the Bushies, if the United States is
 holding a prisoner on foreign soil, our soldiers can
 still subject him or her to cruel, inhuman and
 degrading treatment -- the very forms of torture
 used by the soldiers who were later prosecuted for
 their conduct at Abu Ghraib. Does this make any
 sense, moral or common? 

 So deeply does President Bush feel our country,
 despite all its treaty commitments, has a right to
 torture that he has threatened to veto the bill if it
 passes. This would the first time in five years he
 has ever vetoed anything. Think about it: Five
 years of stupefying pork, ideological nonsense,
 dumb administrative ideas, fiscal idiocy,
 misbegotten energy programs -- and the first thing
 the man vetoes is a bill to pay our soldiers because
 it carries an amendment saying, once again, that
 this country does not torture prisoners. 

 This is the United States of America. It is our
 country, not George W. Bush's personal property.
 The United States of America still stands for the
 rights of man, for freedom, dignity and justice. We
 do not torture helpless prisoners. Our soldiers are
 not the SS, not the North Vietnamese who tortured
 McCain and others for years on end, not bestial
 Argentinean fascists, not the Khmer Rouge. 

 Remember, we invaded Iraq because Saddam
 Hussein was such a horrible brute that he tortured
 people. This is beyond disgusting. The House
 Republicans, which have no shame, will try to
 weaken McCain's amendment. They need to hear
 from decent Republicans all over this country. Don't
 leave this hideous stain on your party's name. This
 is NOT what America stands for. We've had more
 loathsome and more dangerous enemies than
 Al-Qaida and managed to defeat them without
 resorting to torture.  [more]

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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9

[Fred Finch]

Paul, 

make sure to update the subject heading.

fredOn 10/3/05, Paul S Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name
Roebic.  They do NOT appear to ship it.  US$7.66 + tax
for  908 grams here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH

Roebic 
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
Item #: 146450   Model: HD-CRY

Description:
"Contains 100% Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda)Clears tough clogs from pipes and drainsMelts and destroys grease and other kitchen clogs
Keeps drains clearEconomical"
www.lowes.com   search by item # 146450
Kim wrote:Greetings,Apparently Lowe's carries lye in a 2 lb package for around $7.  I am sorry,
but I have not paid much attention since I buy my lye in bulk from BoyerCorporation,  Their KOH is 99% pure.Bright Blessings,Kim-- Thanks,PCHe's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch

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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9

[Paul S Cantrell]

Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name
Roebic.  They do NOT appear to ship it.  US$7.66 + tax
for  908 grams here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH

Roebic 
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
Item #: 146450   Model: HD-CRY

Description:
"Contains 100% Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda)Clears tough clogs from pipes and drainsMelts and destroys grease and other kitchen clogs
Keeps drains clearEconomical"
www.lowes.com   search by item # 146450
Kim wrote:Greetings,Apparently Lowe's carries lye in a 2 lb package for around $7.  I am sorry,
but I have not paid much attention since I buy my lye in bulk from BoyerCorporation,  Their KOH is 99% pure.Bright Blessings,Kim-- Thanks,PCHe's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel as heating oil

[ROY Washbish]

Dave
Look at the bottom of this email and you will find links to the info you want
Roy
 
David Van Vleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I'd like to hear from anyone who uses processed WVO in their oil furnace.  Any differences in the process?  Any problem with the furnace?  
 
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[Biofuel] Biofuel as heating oil

[David Van Vleet]

I'd like to hear from anyone who uses processed WVO 
in their oil furnace.  Any differences in the process?  Any problem 
with the furnace?  
 
    
Thanks
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 129

[Mike Weaver]

It's negative talk like this that keeps people from buying my magnet 
gas-mileage enhancer.  BTW, we only take cash now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> so the 1s and 0s fuse to become. . .what, imaginary numbers?  well, no 
> wonder then!  if only i could tap into the magical power of my 
> imaginary friends; surely that'd resolve all the technical barriers my 
> perpetual motion machine keeps running into.
>  
> cheers,
>  
> -chris b.
>  
>  
> mike weaver wrote:
>  
> >Uh, Keith, hate to step in here but it works by "binary fusion" not 
> "fission." 
> >You're going to give
> >people the wrong idea.
> >
> >Also, where's my link?
> >
> >>It works by "'binary fission' with additional vigour, by maximising
> >>combustion efficiency". Sounds great, think I'll buy some. Dammit,
> >>where's my wallet?
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 129

[capt3d]

so the 1s and 0s fuse to become. . .what, imaginary numbers?  well, no wonder then!  if only i could tap into the magical power of my imaginary friends; surely that'd resolve all the technical barriers my perpetual motion machine keeps running into. 
 
cheers,
 
-chris b.
 
 
mike weaver wrote:
 
>Uh, Keith, hate to step in here but it works by "binary fusion" not "fission."  >You're going to give>people the wrong idea.>>Also, where's my link?>>>It works by "'binary fission' with additional vigour, by maximising >>combustion efficiency". Sounds great, think I'll buy some. Dammit, >>where's my wallet?
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

[Jason]




Unless I had a digital camera. I'd save the 
film.
 
Jason
 > In a message dated 9/17/05 6:17:17 PM, dougwrites:> 
> >We did?  Looks like my vote got ignored yet again.> 
>> >I'd choose the black and white, color film leaves nothing for 
the> >imagination...
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

[Zeke Yewdall]

Are Cheney and Rove with him?  I might actually save GW, but not the others...

On 9/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'd have to go for the high-contrast color.  you can always digitize it later
> and convert to grey-scale.
> 
> -chris b.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/17/05 6:17:17 PM, dougwrites:
> 
> >We did?  Looks like my vote got ignored yet again.
> >
> >I'd choose the black and white, color film leaves nothing for the
> >imagination...
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel-electric hybrids - was Debatable Statement

[Darryl McMahon]

TarynToo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> On Sep 17, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Darryl McMahon wrote:
> 
> > TarynToo wrote:
> > ( 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg55383.html 
> > )
> > 
> >> The only way to get a diesel electric hybrid in this country is to 
> >> build it >
> > yourself. I swear, before, I'm dead, I'm going to build a 
> > solar-svo-diesel->
> > electric-regenerative hybrid out of some old school bus or airport 
> > shuttle!
> > 
> >
> > I sympathize.  Couple of thoughts and questions.
> >
> > With currrent commercial grade PV panels, I recommend you not install 
> > them on the
> > vehicle, but install them somewhere where they can be aimed optimally, 
> > and not
> > shaded.  Car surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) will almost never be 
> > optimally aimed
> > unless you live near the equator.  Also, cars spend a lot of time 
> > parked in the
> > shade - garages, beside buildings, in urban canyons.
> 
> This is certainly true, but where we live, (south florida) and expect 
> to spend the next few years, (mostly south of 40 degrees N.) there's  
> usually plenty of sun. I'm very fond of vent skin designs, which in 
> sunlit structures provide a great deal of thermal protection by using 
> convection and radiant barriers to significantly reduce heat transfer 
> to the interior. A vehicle design which allowed vertical airflow in the 
> skin, up to and through a center mounted ridgevent, when parked, and 
> horizontal airflow in the skin while underway, would be much cooler 
> than if it was simply insulated. What better material for the outside 
> skin that solar panels? While current photovoltaic panels are still too 
> heavy and expensive to simply 'skin' a whole bus with, we constantly 
> read about 'the next big thing' in solar-electric. Another possibility 
> with such a design is to hinge the solar side panels so that they might 
> be better aimed while shading the sunlit side of the bus.  This might 
> all be so heavy and unwieldy as to make it a negative energy 
> proposition.
> 
> > I'm still not convinced regarding regenerative braking.  The gain is 
> > typically
> > small - 7-8% with drivers not trained for efficient driving.  
> > Efficient drivers get
> > less benefit from regenerative braking, as they spend less time in 
> > braking mode.
> > Drive smarter, get the benefit for free.  Further, the small range 
> > increase from
> > regen can be equalled by adding a battery or two to an electric 
> > vehicle.  A bit
> > more weight, but a lot less cost.
> 
> I'll grant this for light vehicles on level terrain. But there some 
> situations where regenerative braking seems like a real advantage:
>  Short haul, high mass delivery, especially in city traffic. Driving 20 
> tons of beer from red light to red light seems like the ideal 
> hybrid-electric-regenerative application. When driving in dense traffic 
> it's almost impossible to drive efficiently, you'd never move.
>  Mountain driving and hill driving, where the energy factors are 
> multiplied by gravity.

As I recall, the testing on regenerative braking gain was done on the SAE-J227 
cycle.  That is an urban cycle, with a lot of stops and starts.  Seems like 
pretty 
much the best case for regen IMHO.  We have some hills around here (river 
valley, 
old mountain range to the north), but nothing like the Rockies.

I thought I had an even better application than your beer trucks.  Garbage 
trucks 
for residential collection.  Average trip leg distance - about 20 metres - 60 
feet. 
 I pitched this to the local government as an opportunity for a prototype 
(electric-
biodiesel hybrid, with the local dump as the location for brewing the 
biodiesel).  
Got a form letter "no thanks" reply.  But then this is the same municipality 
that 
has decided to put off acquisition of hybrid buses in the face of rising fuel 
costs 
that are adding about $20 million to their annual operating costs.  (Hybrid 
buses 
use less fuel per mile.)

> > The hybrid you are contemplating.  Will it be a plug-in hybrid?  I 
> > think that idea
> > has merit.  To the point I am building one.  It will be a fully 
> > functional electric
> > car with limited range - 20 to 30 km pure electric to start with.  
> > Once it is
> > street legal in electric mode, I expect to add a biofuel generator set.
> 
> Agreed, though we expect to be off the grid a lot. One thing about 
> coupling an internal combustion engine only through the 
> generator-battery-motor-wheels path is the much greater loss through 
> conversions. The elegance of the prius/civic designs is the close 
> coupling of the IC engine to the wheels, which means that the 
> generator-motor can be weaker and lighter, since it only needs to 
> provide a fraction (albeit large at times) of the power needs.

Well, I have discussed the series/parallel/serial hybrid configurations with a 
lot 
of knowledgeable folks over the years, and reviewed the real-world performance 
of 
several.  Of 

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel-electric hybrids - was Debatable Statement

[TarynToo]

On Sep 17, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Darryl McMahon wrote:

> TarynToo wrote:
> ( 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg55383.html 
> )
> 
>> The only way to get a diesel electric hybrid in this country is to 
>> build it >
> yourself. I swear, before, I'm dead, I'm going to build a 
> solar-svo-diesel->
> electric-regenerative hybrid out of some old school bus or airport 
> shuttle!
> 
>
> I sympathize.  Couple of thoughts and questions.
>
> With currrent commercial grade PV panels, I recommend you not install 
> them on the
> vehicle, but install them somewhere where they can be aimed optimally, 
> and not
> shaded.  Car surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) will almost never be 
> optimally aimed
> unless you live near the equator.  Also, cars spend a lot of time 
> parked in the
> shade - garages, beside buildings, in urban canyons.

This is certainly true, but where we live, (south florida) and expect 
to spend the next few years, (mostly south of 40 degrees N.) there's  
usually plenty of sun. I'm very fond of vent skin designs, which in 
sunlit structures provide a great deal of thermal protection by using 
convection and radiant barriers to significantly reduce heat transfer 
to the interior. A vehicle design which allowed vertical airflow in the 
skin, up to and through a center mounted ridgevent, when parked, and 
horizontal airflow in the skin while underway, would be much cooler 
than if it was simply insulated. What better material for the outside 
skin that solar panels? While current photovoltaic panels are still too 
heavy and expensive to simply 'skin' a whole bus with, we constantly 
read about 'the next big thing' in solar-electric. Another possibility 
with such a design is to hinge the solar side panels so that they might 
be better aimed while shading the sunlit side of the bus.  This might 
all be so heavy and unwieldy as to make it a negative energy 
proposition.

> I'm still not convinced regarding regenerative braking.  The gain is 
> typically
> small - 7-8% with drivers not trained for efficient driving.  
> Efficient drivers get
> less benefit from regenerative braking, as they spend less time in 
> braking mode.
> Drive smarter, get the benefit for free.  Further, the small range 
> increase from
> regen can be equalled by adding a battery or two to an electric 
> vehicle.  A bit
> more weight, but a lot less cost.

I'll grant this for light vehicles on level terrain. But there some 
situations where regenerative braking seems like a real advantage:
Short haul, high mass delivery, especially in city traffic. Driving 20 
tons of beer from red light to red light seems like the ideal 
hybrid-electric-regenerative application. When driving in dense traffic 
it's almost impossible to drive efficiently, you'd never move.
Mountain driving and hill driving, where the energy factors are 
multiplied by gravity.

> The hybrid you are contemplating.  Will it be a plug-in hybrid?  I 
> think that idea
> has merit.  To the point I am building one.  It will be a fully 
> functional electric
> car with limited range - 20 to 30 km pure electric to start with.  
> Once it is
> street legal in electric mode, I expect to add a biofuel generator set.

Agreed, though we expect to be off the grid a lot. One thing about 
coupling an internal combustion engine only through the 
generator-battery-motor-wheels path is the much greater loss through 
conversions. The elegance of the prius/civic designs is the close 
coupling of the IC engine to the wheels, which means that the 
generator-motor can be weaker and lighter, since it only needs to 
provide a fraction (albeit large at times) of the power needs.

> There has been some progress on this vehicle.  I have finished the 
> work on it I
> planned to do.  It is now with my mechanic having the brakes redone 
> from front to
> back.  They were in need of complete rebuild after sitting for over 10 
> years - most
> of that not at my hands - believe it or not.  So, with luck, that 
> should be
> licensed and on the road before the end of the month.
>
> I have been thinking biodiesel as my biofuel, but a couple of things 
> are making me
> rethink that now.  First, this will be a year-round use car - 
> including Ottawa
> winters - with -30C temperatures to contend with.  That makes me worry 
> about
> biodiesel gel and pour points as possible issues.  Second, a local 
> business is now
> selling E85, an option I did not have even two weeks ago.  Third, 
> four-stroke, air-
> cooled, small "gasoline" engines are easier to come by, and cheaper, 
> than diesel
> engines with similar ratings.

It certainly is easier and cheaper to lay hands on small gas engines 
that small diesel engines, at least in north america. If you go into a 
VW dealership in South Florida asking for diesel cars, you'll get 
little more than a blank look.

> So, should I go with E85 instead of biodiesel (presumably B10 to B20 
> in winter) for
> the hybrid? Does