[biofuel] fat
I think I am low in my rough guess on the amount of fat in an animal carcass.I purchased a 10.23 lb beef roast,additional fat was trimmed in the grocery.After cooking I collected .56 lbs of fat from the pan and the roast was still very well marbled with fat.It may be that a 600 lb carcass could be over one quarter fat. I know that it is illegal to use a carcass which has been dead for more than 24hrs. A dead animal can be used for dog and cat food.But the death must have occurred within 24hrs.I worked a short time for Alpo. My job was shoveling sawdust (filler) into the mixer.It was an amazing process to me,a live animal in the yard would be cooked in cans, and boxed 30 min later.Dead animals were put right on the conveyor,live ones were electrocuted and put on the conveyor.No skinning,no bleeding,they all went through a huge heavy chopper,then a huge grinder, another grinder,a big mixer, where minerals were added, water and preservatives,sawdust,salt and other stuff.Then extr! uded into cans,canned and cooked,and boxed.Someone could put an ad in the paper and pick up dead or old farm animals. You need a truck with a lift or winch.Shoot them or hit them in the head with a sledge. chop them into smaller parts and render them out.Chop them up in a large pan or over a pan to save the blood for blood meal.An excellent fertilizer.Also you can grind the bones for fertilizer,and the remains can be put into a digester.The bloodmeal,bonemeal,and sludge can be packaged and sold.The rendered fat made into biodiesel.The biogas used anyway you want,and to fire your rendering vat.Additional income can be had if you skin the animals and sell the hides.Plus you get paid for picking up dead farm animals.I called, and the rate here is $125 for cattle or horses.A .22 does the job nicely,put the muzzle an inch from the skin and put the shot into the brain.Hang them up head down over a pan and cut the neck open to drain the blood.The smaller you chop an animal up the eas! ier it would be to render it. A truck with lift gate,winch,chain hoists,vat or tank,pans,axes,sharp knives,a .22,overalls,gloves,ect,it could be a nice business for a couple of guys. stephen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981410028/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Fat filter
Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. Thanks, Andrew. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] fat
Ouch! I think that I might rather just walk than take up "abattoir skills". An obvious source of fat is from the slaughter plants (like IBP) where excess external fat is trimmed off and often added to ground beef coming from slaughter dairy animals (that may be lower in fat). They kill ~2050 head +/- a couple each day!! Ciao, Geoff stephen lakios wrote: > > I think I am low in my rough guess on the amount of fat in an animal > carcass.I purchased a 10.23 lb beef roast,additional fat was trimmed in the > grocery.After cooking I collected .56 lbs of fat from the pan and the roast > was still very well marbled with fat.It may be that a 600 lb carcass could be > over one quarter fat. I know that it is illegal to use a carcass which has > been dead for more than 24hrs. A dead animal can be used for dog and cat > food.But the death must have occurred within 24hrs.I worked a short time for > Alpo. My job was shoveling sawdust (filler) into the mixer.It was an amazing > process to me,a live animal in the yard would be cooked in cans, and boxed 30 > min later.Dead animals were put right on the conveyor,live ones were > electrocuted and put on the conveyor.No skinning,no bleeding,they all went > through a huge heavy chopper,then a huge grinder, another grinder,a big > mixer, where minerals were added, water and preservatives,sawdust,salt and > other stuff.Then ex! truded > into cans,canned and cooked,and boxed.Someone could put an ad in the paper > and pick up dead or old farm animals. You need a truck with a lift or > winch.Shoot them or hit them in the head with a sledge. chop them into > smaller parts and render them out.Chop them up in a large pan or over a pan > to save the blood for blood meal.An excellent fertilizer.Also you can grind > the bones for fertilizer,and the remains can be put into a digester.The > bloodmeal,bonemeal,and sludge can be packaged and sold.The rendered fat made > into biodiesel.The biogas used anyway you want,and to fire your rendering > vat.Additional income can be had if you skin the animals and sell the > hides.Plus you get paid for picking up dead farm animals.I called, and the > rate here is $125 for cattle or horses.A .22 does the job nicely,put the > muzzle an inch from the skin and put the shot into the brain.Hang them up > head down over a pan and cut the neck open to drain the blood.The smaller you > chop an animal up the easier! it > would be to render it. A truck with lift gate,winch,chain hoists,vat or > tank,pans,axes,sharp knives,a .22,overalls,gloves,ect,it could be a nice > business for a couple of guys. stephen > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981863469/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
the centrifuge sounds like a great idea. I am lucky enough to have a source of clean oil; a place that makes corn chips. I filter my oil directly through a 20" filter i got from Tek Supply for about $20 with replacement filters at about $3. they come in versions down to 5 microns. i use an electric pump plumbed to the filter that runs on 110v so it's fairly clean and easy. i used a hydraulic pump from a junkyard, with a belt to a scrounged motor. another excellent catalog is northern hardware supply, who has a 110v pump with a gas station dispensing handle for about $160. I suspect that if you prefiltered with a t-shirt or something, a large filter would last awhile, and the filters apper to be made of cotton, which would make dandy kindling. tek supply is at 1-800-tek supply northern hardware is in the 800 directory; i don't have a catalog handy. good luck, anton >Hi a solution to your problem might be to use a type of centrifuge machine. >This is basicly a spinning bottle or flask. All the heavy solids should fall >to the bottom of the bottle then you take the left over oil from the top. >One could make a simple centrifuge out of an old washing machine motor and a >plastic drum. >I hope this will help. > >> Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for >> filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I >> regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast >> food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This >> is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. >> It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used >> filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. >> Thanks, Andrew. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
Hi a solution to your problem might be to use a type of centrifuge machine. This is basicly a spinning bottle or flask. All the heavy solids should fall to the bottom of the bottle then you take the left over oil from the top. One could make a simple centrifuge out of an old washing machine motor and a plastic drum. I hope this will help. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: [biofuel] Fat filter > Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for > filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I > regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast > food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This > is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. > It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used > filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. > Thanks, Andrew. > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
make up a manifold out of plastic pipe, vertically placed to use gravity i no pump used. a small canister on top, a short pipe to a tee, branch it to several other tees, on the manifold end an elbow. pieces of pipe to couplers, then a duplicate on the bottom, glue all but the top of the straight couplers. stick some coffee filters in the coupler tops and put the manifold together. you could also use a heating oil tank to store a large quantity and a replaceable felt canister filter, this would work best. Andrew Graham wrote: > Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for > filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I > regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast > food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This > is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. > It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used > filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. > Thanks, Andrew. > > > eGroups Sponsor [Corbis - The Place for Pictures Online] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
"manuel cilia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi a solution to your problem might be to use a type of centrifuge machine. >This is basicly a spinning bottle or flask. All the heavy solids should fall >to the bottom of the bottle then you take the left over oil from the top. >One could make a simple centrifuge out of an old washing machine motor and a >plastic drum. A washing machine goes backwards and forwards, but I guess you mean the spinner. Sorry, I don't know from centrifuges! How fast would it have to turn, do you know? Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >I hope this will help. >- Original Message - >From: "Andrew Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 10:19 AM >Subject: [biofuel] Fat filter > > > > Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for > > filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I > > regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast > > food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This > > is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. > > It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used > > filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. > > Thanks, Andrew. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
a set of flat furnace filters might work nicely, coarse ones on top, fine ones on bottom. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
Andrew, Manuels idea of a centrifugal separator machine seems a good one and shouldnt be too hard to achieve. I think the best solution is probably a combination of various metal screen filters and cloth type filters possibly used in conjunction with a centrifugal separator. In the case of the metal screens these would take the larger bits and gunk out and the coth filters would then take the finer particles without fouling up so quickly. Are you aware of the Amiad filter range?(Israeli company that specialises in very fine metal screen filters that quickly remove the larger particles). They should be represented (probably directly) in Australia. They certainly are in NZ. Hope this is some help. See what you can come up with and I can probably suggest some other ideas. B.r., David -Original Message- From: Andrew Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@egroups.com Date: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: [biofuel] Fat filter >Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for >filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I >regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast >food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This >is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. >It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used >filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. >Thanks, Andrew. > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Fat filter
Hi, all I use a piece of window screening over a piece of panty hose, both attached to the wand of a wet-dry vac with an elastic band. I keep the wand near the top of the oil (most of the heavy particles are at the bottom) and when the screen fills up, simply shift to a clean section of both filters. I tried also putting a fat filter at the opening to the cannister, but my small household vac didn't have the oomph to pull it through. And in fact I've not found that extra degree of filtering to be necessary ... the fat is clean enough to burn straight. A stronger vac would be able to pull the fat through, I expect, for more stringent requirements. My vac is not the through-kind, so I drilled holes in the wheel wells. When the suction is on, it is enough to prevent the fat from draining, and when I turn the vac off, the fat drains into a clean cannister. With this arrangement, I don't have to lift the heavy buckets of fat. When and if I need the vac for dry purposes, the holes will be easy enough to seal up. Regards, Lori At 12:19 AM 2001-01-04 +, Andrew Graham wrote: >Has anyone out there got any good ideas on an effective method for >filtering used cooking fat. I run my car on straight heated fat but I >regularly clog up my fuel filter. I currently get my fat from fast >food outlets, then sieve it, and filter it twice through cloth. This >is a slow messy process but still leaves too many solids in the fuel. >It is not a pleasant job changing the filter, not cheap and the used >filters are an environmental hazard in themselves. >Thanks, Andrew. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Biofuel] Fat, MSG, Aspartame, It's in all the food - Dr Russel Blaylock
Dr. Russel Blaylock discusses how our food today is adulterated with excitotoxins. Dr. Blaylock has written many books and does an excllent job explaining how these toxins affect our bodies. He cuts through the political and industry lies. This is a must see video. _www.TheFoodIsHorrible.com_ (http://www.TheFoodIsHorrible.com) (http://www.TheFoodIsHorrible.com) _http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-214166627927194&ei_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-214166627927194&ei) = -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090403/f813bfbb/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
