Re: [biofuel] methanol production/corncobs

2001-05-12 Thread Keith Addison

One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.

Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.

Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive distillation or related material?

I am more inclined to use pulverized corncobs as
Biodiesel production power myself but a small scale
methanol production unit would definately lower our
projected costs of Biodiesel production.

Dana Linscott

Hi Dana

Why not go for ethyl esters? Re methanol, there's some information in 
the message archives. Try a search for Hynol, destructive 
distillation, DD, should work. We haven't found anything 
satisfactory. There was a method in a Home Power article mentioned 
(Jerry?), but I don't think anybody's tried it and I don't have a 
detailed description of it. Do you need to expend the power 
pulverising the corncobs for BD production? Couldn't you burn them 
as-is?

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
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Re: [biofuel] methanol production/corncobs

2001-05-12 Thread jerry dycus

   Hi Keith, Dana and All,
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of our project members has requested that I
 investigate the possability of methanol production
 using corn cobs as a feedstock.
 
 Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
 destructive distillation might be the route to go.
 
 Does anyone have a lead for more information on
 destructive distillation or related material?
 
 I am more inclined to use pulverized corncobs as
 Biodiesel production power myself but a small scale
 methanol production unit would definately lower our
 projected costs of Biodiesel production.
 
 Dana Linscott
 
 Hi Dana
 
 Why not go for ethyl esters? Re methanol, there's
 some information in 
 the message archives. Try a search for Hynol,
 destructive 
 distillation, DD, should work. We haven't found
 anything 
 satisfactory. There was a method in a Home Power
 article mentioned 
 (Jerry?), but I don't think anybody's tried it and I
 don't have a 
 detailed description of it. Do you need to expend
 the power 
 pulverising the corncobs for BD production? Couldn't
 you burn them 
 as-is?
  The Hynol report wasn't very good. Maybe when
they complete their work but right now it's a waste of
time. Sounds like someone is milking the gov for grant
money.
  The Home Power Mag DD to methanol article is
looking better as I've read other stuff that it will
work. How to purify it is another question. It's on
their 1st CD. 
  If you just need heat a producer gas unit may be
good for you or just burn the cobs like Keith said.
Serveral good producer gas units on Keith's and
Steve's sites.
jerry dycus
 
 Best
 
 Keith Addison
 Journey to Forever
 Handmade Projects
 Tokyo
 http://journeytoforever.org/
 
  
 
 


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[biofuel] methanol production/corncobs

2001-05-12 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Dana Linscott wrote:

One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.

Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.

Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive distillation or related material?

Funny you should mention this. The French distillery manual that I
mentioned in an earlier post says that methanol obtained in destructive
distillation is from the lignin in the wood, so corncobs don't sound
like a good source of methanol. I checked in HŠgglund's _Chemistry of
Wood_, which says the same thing.

On the other hand, you can get fermentable sugars from cellulose by
hydrolysis, and ferment those to get ethanol. You'll need to do some
experimenting, starting with processes designed for high-cellulose waste
such as cotton linters.

Ethanol from cellulose, methanol from lignin. It turns out that you can
get both fermentable sugars and methanol from the same woody feedstock
by first saccharifying (hydrolyzing) woody waste, then destructively
distilling the residue. You can also get methanol from the residue of
paper production - HŠgglund concentrates on sulphite (acid) process
residues, but I believe this is also true of the residues of the
alkaline or sulphate process. This is especially nice as those residues
are a serious pollution source.

Best,
Marc de Piolenc



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Re: [biofuel] methanol production/corncobs

2001-05-11 Thread Dana Linscott

One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.

Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.

Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive distillation or related material?

I am more inclined to use pulverized corncobs as
Biodiesel production power myself but a small scale
methanol production unit would definately lower our
projected costs of Biodiesel production.

Dana Linscott


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