RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 459
"Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt.. >not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt. > >All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into >an ice age.. >studies and readings said so... >because they thought the pollution in the atmosphere was reflecting the suns >energy.. > >So now the bandwagon is that it is warming.. what happened to the evidence >of cooling in the 70s? Try a search for "Hamaker" in the message archives. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/messages Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >My personal is that the earth heats and cools in cycles.. hotter and >cooler.. and each cycle is on a larger cycle.. so it is hard to tell. > >Dumping a bunch of crap into the Atmosphere cant be good though. > > >as to 1968.. i thought they first discovered the "hole" in the early 80s ?? > > > >>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:43:24 -0600 > >> From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union > >> > >>We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy > >>consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of >1%. > >>(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the >reason > >>you lost your roof. > >>The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with >man > >>made causes. > >>The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric > >>chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's >contribution is > >>miniscule in comparison. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 459
The major source of influence is the output of the sun. Also weather does not constitute climate change. Pollution is not good but it is important to keep a perspective on the situation. If the atmosphere was an Olympic size swimming pool full of vodka the fluorocarbon concentration would be the same as taking an eyedropper and adding a drop of Vermouth. Mighty dry Martini. If you read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx you see elimination of private property as one of the planks. Eco-crises is being promoted as a vehicle to that end. Hysteria is being used as a motivational tool. Kirk -Original Message- From: Crabb, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:35 PM To: 'biofuel@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 459 Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt.. not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt. All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into an ice age.. studies and readings said so... because they thought the pollution in the atmosphere was reflecting the suns energy.. So now the bandwagon is that it is warming.. what happened to the evidence of cooling in the 70s? My personal is that the earth heats and cools in cycles.. hotter and cooler.. and each cycle is on a larger cycle.. so it is hard to tell. Dumping a bunch of crap into the Atmosphere cant be good though. as to 1968.. i thought they first discovered the "hole" in the early 80s ?? >>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:43:24 -0600 >> From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union >> >>We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy >>consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of 1%. >>(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the reason >>you lost your roof. >>The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with man >>made causes. >>The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric >>chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's contribution is >>miniscule in comparison. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 459
Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt.. not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt. All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into an ice age.. studies and readings said so... because they thought the pollution in the atmosphere was reflecting the suns energy.. So now the bandwagon is that it is warming.. what happened to the evidence of cooling in the 70s? My personal is that the earth heats and cools in cycles.. hotter and cooler.. and each cycle is on a larger cycle.. so it is hard to tell. Dumping a bunch of crap into the Atmosphere cant be good though. as to 1968.. i thought they first discovered the "hole" in the early 80s ?? >>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:43:24 -0600 >> From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union >> >>We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy >>consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of 1%. >>(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the reason >>you lost your roof. >>The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with man >>made causes. >>The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric >>chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's contribution is >>miniscule in comparison. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
