"Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt..
>not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt.
>
>All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into
>an ice age..
>studies and readings said so...
>because they thought the pollution in the atmosphere was reflecting the suns
>energy..
>
>So now the bandwagon is that it is warming..  what happened to the evidence
>of cooling in the 70s?

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>My personal is that the earth heats and cools in cycles.. hotter and
>cooler.. and each cycle is on a larger cycle..  so it is hard to tell.
>
>Dumping a bunch of crap into the Atmosphere cant be good though.
>
>
>as to 1968.. i thought they first discovered the "hole" in the early 80s ??
>
>
>   >>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:43:24 -0600
>   >>   From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >>Subject: RE: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union
>   >>
>   >>We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy
>   >>consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of
>1%.
>   >>(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the
>reason
>   >>you lost your roof.
>   >>The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with
>man
>   >>made causes.
>   >>The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric
>   >>chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's
>contribution is
>   >>miniscule in comparison.


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