Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from cellulose
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RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
Dear Marcelino Miranda, I tried sending the document before, but the mail server spat it out again saying it was too big for email transmission. The site is now hoever working again and the document number is 3957. The site's URL is http://www.afdc.doe.gov/cgi-bin/doc_search/searchora.cgi where you can search for it and then download it. You'll find a lot of other interesting documents there. Hanns -Original Message- From: Marcelino Miranda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:25 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Message for Hanns B. Wetzel. Can you please send me a copy of the full report? This may be very useful for us in the forest of Jujuy, up North in Argentina. Thank you. Marcelino Miranda -Mensaje original- De: Hanns B. Wetzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Miercoles, 19 de Septiembre de 2001 11:21 a.m. Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Asunto: RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Todd, An in-depth technical and economic analysis prepared for the U.S. DOE is a pdf document titled "Lignocellulosic Biomass to Ethanol Process Design and Economics Utilizing Co-Current Dilute Acid Prehydrolysis and Enzymatic Hydrolysis Current and Futuristic Scenarios" (a mouthful:-]) prepared by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in July 1999. It is available via www.afdc.doe.gov/altfuels.htm but that site seems to be off the air at present. I got a copy on disk (1992Kb), it is very detailed. Will send you a copy if you like. Hanns -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 1:02 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Don't suppose any rocket scientists here can point a soul to an in depth site or two on ethanol from ligno-cellulosic material and destructive distillation? Had an inquiry and an itch. Todd Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/MDsVHB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
Message for Hanns B. Wetzel. Can you please send me a copy of the full report? This may be very useful for us in the forest of Jujuy, up North in Argentina. Thank you. Marcelino Miranda -Mensaje original- De: Hanns B. Wetzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Miercoles, 19 de Septiembre de 2001 11:21 a.m. Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Asunto: RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Todd, An in-depth technical and economic analysis prepared for the U.S. DOE is a pdf document titled "Lignocellulosic Biomass to Ethanol Process Design and Economics Utilizing Co-Current Dilute Acid Prehydrolysis and Enzymatic Hydrolysis Current and Futuristic Scenarios" (a mouthful:-]) prepared by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in July 1999. It is available via www.afdc.doe.gov/altfuels.htm but that site seems to be off the air at present. I got a copy on disk (1992Kb), it is very detailed. Will send you a copy if you like. Hanns -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 1:02 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Don't suppose any rocket scientists here can point a soul to an in depth site or two on ethanol from ligno-cellulosic material and destructive distillation? Had an inquiry and an itch. Todd Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
Todd, An in-depth technical and economic analysis prepared for the U.S. DOE is a pdf document titled "Lignocellulosic Biomass to Ethanol Process Design and Economics Utilizing Co-Current Dilute Acid Prehydrolysis and Enzymatic Hydrolysis Current and Futuristic Scenarios" (a mouthful:-]) prepared by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in July 1999. It is available via www.afdc.doe.gov/altfuels.htm but that site seems to be off the air at present. I got a copy on disk (1992Kb), it is very detailed. Will send you a copy if you like. Hanns -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 1:02 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose Don't suppose any rocket scientists here can point a soul to an in depth site or two on ethanol from ligno-cellulosic material and destructive distillation? Had an inquiry and an itch. Todd Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
http://www.webconx.com/sawdust_ethanol.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:01 PM Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose > Don't suppose any rocket scientists here can point a soul to an in depth site or two on ethanol from ligno-cellulosic material and destructive distillation? > > Had an inquiry and an itch. > > Todd > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
Hi Todd Try the first one. From Ethanol resources on the Web: Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html Ethanol from cellulose "Wood-Ethanol Report: Technology Review", Environment Canada 1999 -- good overview of the problem and the current solutions on offer. http://www.pyr.ec.gc.ca/ep/wet/section16.html Arkenol Inc. is a pioneer in processing cellulose biomas into ethanol: agricultural wastes, straw, leaves, grass clippings, sawdust or old newspapers. The company uses proprietary concentrated acid hydrolysis technology and is in the final development stages for a 48 million litre per year biorefinery in Sacramento, California processing rice straw. http://www.arkenol.com The Iogen Corporation of Canada is "the leader in developing and manufacturing ethanol-from-cellulose". The Iogen process is an enzymatic hydrolysis process for converting lignocellulosics to ethanol -- uses steam explosion pretreatment pioneered by the company and Iogen's proprietary enzymes. http://www.iogen.ca/fuels.htm BC International Corporation uses a genetically modified organism to produce ethanol from biomass wastes such as agricultural residues, municipal waste, and forest thinnings. Two-stage dilute acid hydrolysis process for the preparation of the sugar streams and two separate fermentations although both use the same organism. http://www.bcintlcorp.com/ "Ethanol Production in Hawaii", a "pre-feasibility" study who a focus on ethanol from cellulose. Includes comparison of the different processes: simultaneous saccharification and fermentation; concentrated acid hydrolysis, neutralization and fermentation; ammonia disruption, hydrolysis and fermentation; steam disruption, hydrolysis and fermentation; acid disruption and transgenic microorganism fermentation; concentrated acid hydrolysis, acid recycle and fermentation; and acidified acetone extraction, hydrolysis and fermentation. http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/ert/ethanol/ethano94.html Good list of references: http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/ert/ethanol/refs.html Genencore & DOE Move Closer to Fuel Ethanol from Biomass Cellulose - See: Biomass Conversion with Enzymes: http://www.newuses.org/EG/EG-23/23genetic.html Mustard Plants Produce Low-Cost Enzymes for Making Ethanol -- Researchers at the University of Colorado (CU) at Boulder have developed a potentially low- cost method of producing the cellulase enzyme for converting woody biomass materials into ethanol. http://www.colorado.edu/PublicRelations/NewsReleases/2001/1244.html New Research May Reduce Renewable Fuel Costs http://ens-news.com/ens/may2001/2001L-05-24-09.html Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >Don't suppose any rocket scientists here can point a soul to an in >depth site or two on ethanol from ligno-cellulosic material and >destructive distillation? > >Had an inquiry and an itch. > >Todd >Appal Energy >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/MDsVHB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
>Does anyone know if and how you can make ethanol from cellulose, in >particularly cotton and cotton waste products such as gin waste and >textile mill waste? >Thanks, >Sam Hi Sam See the Files section at the biofuels list website (members only access), "sawdust.html - Fuel From Sawdust", at: http://www.egroups.com/group/biofuel Or sign in first with your email address and password at: http://www.egroups.com/mygroups Also the Alcohol Fuel Manual in the Files section has a chapter on Cellulose Conversion. Click on "manual - Alcohol Fuel Manual", the chapters are inside the folder. The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel by S.W. Mathewson Chapter 8 Processing Steps Specific To Cellulose Materials - Cellulose Conversion Arkenol Inc. http://www.arkenol.com A chemical company that is looking to the sugar barrel instead of the oil barrel for fuel supplies. Arkenol is a pioneer in processing cellulose biomas into ethanol: agricultural wastes, straw, leaves, grass clippings, sawdust or old newspapers. (From http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html) From list message archives: From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:14:43 +1200 Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fuel From Sawdust Keith, Steve, et al, The Forest Research Institute here in NZ at Rotorua ran quite an involved series of trials using sawdust for ethanol production during the 80s and I believe were at that time at the forefront of this use. I have the file somewhere here as I was looking into the use of this byproduct with one of the newly developed G.E. yeasts that can ferment the xylose (cellulose) fraction as well as the carbohydrate portion. Voila! At least 30% and up to 40% more ethanol without a major byproduct waste you need to get rid of. Had forgotten about it for the last few months B.r., David Reid From: Robert Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Fuel From Sawdust Keith, Steve, et al This reminds me, I have visited NREL in Golden, Colorado many times, and one time I got to visit the lab where they were working on this very issue of convertering sawdust through acid hydrolisis and fermentation. They easily had over one million dollars in automated stainless steel tanks, piping, electronic controls, and such, and they were successful. They have some extensive reports on this subject if you care to browse through there library. Their stuff is on the technical side, but they have done specific work on identifing specific microbes which work well. Go to www.nrel.gov or to http://www.afdc.nrel.gov/ -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~> Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. Install today: http://click.egroups.com/1/6347/5/_/837408/_/970402795/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose
yes, even sawdust. see http://www.webconx.com/ethanol.htm -- Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "Sam Dabbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol from cellulose > Does anyone know if and how you can make ethanol from cellulose, in > particularly cotton and cotton waste products such as gin waste and > textile mill waste? > Thanks, > Sam > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~> Restaurants, Movies, Weather, Traffic & More! Call 1-800-555-TELL. For more info visit: http://click.egroups.com/1/9533/5/_/837408/_/970370284/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
