Re: Fwd: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 21:07 >Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets > > > > > > Diesel land cruisers make great candidates for conversions to SVO or WVO, >or > > to be run on biodiesel. They are very robust and will last a long time, > > mileages of 300 000 miles are not uncommon. The only problem for US >citizens > > is that Toyota never sold diesel LC's in the states, only in canada, and > > they are usually very rusty up here. Diesel Land Cruisers for sale in the > > states are always from canada, or other sources, but they are prime > > candidates for major corrosion damage. > > > >So buy a rusty Diesel Land Cruser from Canada, pull the engine and fuel >tank, and put them in a Land Cruser, with a good body. > >Greg H. >--- End forwarded message --- There's a company somewhere in the US that makes new bodies for Land Cruisers. I don't know the name of the company, somebody told me about it. He said their advert said: "Not if you live in a wet State"! This is GREAT stuff for rust, by the way: Rustproofing, anti-corrosion http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#rust Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Fwd: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Neil and Adele Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The first letter designates engine. Here in canada you could get a BJ60 (3B 4 cylinder normally aspirated diesel), an HJ60 (which had the 2H engine, the best landcruiser engine ever in my opinion), and an FJ 60 (which has the 2F petrol engine). Ah yes forgot the old BJ's good tough truck. The second letter is always J. I believe it means that the vehicle is japanese. It may be a ripoff of the american CJ jeep. Not quite true any more the diesel in the 80 series is the 1hz or the 1hd t for the early factory turbo (big problems with bottom bearings in the turbo) This was replaced with the 1hdft multivalve turbo diesel and more recently by the 1hdfte which has electronic control of the fuel pump. Petrol engines were the 3f quickly replaced by the 1fzfe 24 valve 4.5litre as found in the lx450 cruisers in the states. Therefore the model range was hzj80 and fzj 80 amongst others thus the J became the third letter. The model designation is officially j6 for the 60 series and j8 80series etc. The number is the model designation, it ranges from the 40's (jeep style - the classic looking land cruiser, very similar to a classic land rover), the 55, which posesses it's own very "distinct" styling, and the 60 which is a station wagon type vehicle. There are many others but they are extremely rare up here (canada) and I don't want to misinform anyone. Diesel land cruisers make great candidates for conversions to SVO or WVO, or to be run on biodiesel. They are very robust and will last a long time, mileages of 300 000 miles are not uncommon. The only problem for US citizens is that Toyota never sold diesel LC's in the states, only in canada, and they are usually very rusty up here. Diesel Land Cruisers for sale in the states are always from canada, or other sources, but they are prime candidates for major corrosion damage. My intercooled turbo diesel 1hz 80 series runs very nicely on Biodiesel, though with the twin tank setup standard, it could easily be used for SVO with only the pump return to worry about. Some other list members may have had similar experiences as I believe that the vehicle enjoyed a rather incredible success worldwide. The land cruiser is one of the only vehicles that had only one major instance of built-in obsolescence. A biodegradable body. Everything else was designed to last forever. This is one of my rare postings to this list, I believe that I speak for all the lurkers out there that we appreciate the people who go to great lengths to educate and enlighten us. Thank you... J-L 1966 Land-Rover 109 Being converted to MB 300 5 cylinder turbodiesel/WVO Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --- End forwarded message ---
Fwd: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 21:07 Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets > > Diesel land cruisers make great candidates for conversions to SVO or WVO, or > to be run on biodiesel. They are very robust and will last a long time, > mileages of 300 000 miles are not uncommon. The only problem for US citizens > is that Toyota never sold diesel LC's in the states, only in canada, and > they are usually very rusty up here. Diesel Land Cruisers for sale in the > states are always from canada, or other sources, but they are prime > candidates for major corrosion damage. > So buy a rusty Diesel Land Cruser from Canada, pull the engine and fuel tank, and put them in a Land Cruser, with a good body. Greg H. --- End forwarded message ---
Fwd: Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jean-Leon Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >originally a 4.0ltr 6cyl petrol engine. Using the 2f motor, very reliable but not economical by any means. If it was an original >diesel fitment it should be a HJ60 which used the venerable 2H diesel, (ah memories) 3.9 ltr took quite well to mild turbo >charging and couldnt kill it with a stick. (mine had 350k klms on it when I sold it) Therefore a brief recap. Landcruisers >have an F in their model # for Petrol (Gas) and an H for diesel. > Snip... A bit of clarification about landcruisers of the diesel or non-diesel variety. The first letter designates engine. Here in canada you could get a BJ60 (3B 4 cylinder normally aspirated diesel), an HJ60 (which had the 2H engine, the best landcruiser engine ever in my opinion), and an FJ 60 (which has the 2F petrol engine). The second letter is always J. I believe it means that the vehicle is japanese. It may be a ripoff of the american CJ jeep. The number is the model designation, it ranges from the 40's (jeep style - the classic looking land cruiser, very similar to a classic land rover), the 55, which posesses it's own very "distinct" styling, and the 60 which is a station wagon type vehicle. There are many others but they are extremely rare up here (canada) and I don't want to misinform anyone. Diesel land cruisers make great candidates for conversions to SVO or WVO, or to be run on biodiesel. They are very robust and will last a long time, mileages of 300 000 miles are not uncommon. The only problem for US citizens is that Toyota never sold diesel LC's in the states, only in canada, and they are usually very rusty up here. Diesel Land Cruisers for sale in the states are always from canada, or other sources, but they are prime candidates for major corrosion damage. Some other list members may have had similar experiences as I believe that the vehicle enjoyed a rather incredible success worldwide. The land cruiser is one of the only vehicles that had only one major instance of built-in obsolescence. A biodegradable body. Everything else was designed to last forever. This is one of my rare postings to this list, I believe that I speak for all the lurkers out there that we appreciate the people who go to great lengths to educate and enlighten us. Thank you... J-L 1966 Land-Rover 109 Being converted to MB 300 5 cylinder turbodiesel/WVO --- End forwarded message ---
Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
I think most serious 4x4s come with a diesel option. But not in the US. The Mercedes G has a great diesel version, at least one, but it seems not in the US. All the more serious Japanese 4x4s have diesel options. Jeeps come with diesels, in Europe and I think here in Japan too, but apparently not in the US. You guys really have to do something about your diesel-bashers! Detroit's willing, for a change, maybe they could use a little help. And are you really going to wait another four years, at least, before you get some decent fuel? Other than biodiesel, that is. That US petro-diesel is terrible stuff. Keith Not just the US petro diesel Keith, in Aus we have terrible fuel which stops the high tech european and japanese diesels coming in. Toyota has a very nice 4.2 intercooled turbo diesel with electronic control of the pump and all the nice stuff like 4 valves per cyl. The fuel is not really good enough for the motor though. Apparantly by 2005 a new standard for minimum grade diesel will be introduced in Aus enabling the gates to open for a wider diesel passenger car choice. (hopefully) Neil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
If it was an FJ then it was originally a 4.0ltr 6cyl petrol engine. Using the 2f motor, very reliable but not economical by any means. If it was an original diesel fitment it should be a HJ60 which used the venerable 2H diesel, (ah memories) 3.9 ltr took quite well to mild turbo charging and couldnt kill it with a stick. (mine had 350k klms on it when I sold it) Therefore a brief recap. Landcruisers have an F in their model # for Petrol (Gas) and an H for diesel. Neil I even ran across a diesel Toyota Land Cruiser for sale the other day - an '82 FJ60, originally from Canada. Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
Keith, You are so right about the diesel car and truck situation in the US. VW Tdi's we have, and they are wonderful, and of course pickups and the landwhale known as the Excursion are available with diesels, but no smaller SUV's. And you are also so right about the lousy dinodiesel available here. All the more reason to go biodiesel, SVO or WVO. Craig Keith Addison wrote: > >Oh, btw, there's also diesel Nissan Pathfinders. I > >came across that while studying Nissan's VIN number > >meanings. In the Pathfinder series there is an engine > >"choice" of "diesel". > > > >Curtis > > I think most serious 4x4s come with a diesel option. But not in the > US. The Mercedes G has a great diesel version, at least one, but it > seems not in the US. All the more serious Japanese 4x4s have diesel > options. Jeeps come with diesels, in Europe and I think here in Japan > too, but apparently not in the US. You guys really have to do > something about your diesel-bashers! Detroit's willing, for a change, > maybe they could use a little help. And are you really going to wait > another four years, at least, before you get some decent fuel? Other > than biodiesel, that is. That US petro-diesel is terrible stuff. > > Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
>Oh, btw, there's also diesel Nissan Pathfinders. I >came across that while studying Nissan's VIN number >meanings. In the Pathfinder series there is an engine >"choice" of "diesel". > >Curtis I think most serious 4x4s come with a diesel option. But not in the US. The Mercedes G has a great diesel version, at least one, but it seems not in the US. All the more serious Japanese 4x4s have diesel options. Jeeps come with diesels, in Europe and I think here in Japan too, but apparently not in the US. You guys really have to do something about your diesel-bashers! Detroit's willing, for a change, maybe they could use a little help. And are you really going to wait another four years, at least, before you get some decent fuel? Other than biodiesel, that is. That US petro-diesel is terrible stuff. Keith >--- craig reece <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >but out there but more rare are things like diesel >Isuzu Troopers, diesel International Scouts, etc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
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This is the ultimate when it comes in a diesel (2006?) No problem with the
HOSE either!
:)
Ryan
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Subject: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
I haven't added anything to this thread, but I'm in the process of
changing the gas-guzzlin' V8 in my Land Rover Defender to the Land Rover
300 Tdi, with a 2nd heated tank for straight vegetable oil. And there
are a few SUV's out there that come stock with diesel engines -
Suburbans with the 6.2 and 6.5 GM diesel being probably the most
plentiful, but out there but more rare are things like diesel Isuzu
Troopers, diesel International Scouts, etc.
I even ran across a diesel Toyota Land Cruiser for sale the other day -
an '82 FJ60, originally from Canada.
Craig
Kim & Garth Travis wrote:
>
>
> Curtis Sakima wrote:
>
> > Take a HOSE and WASH out the inside now THERE'S a
> > vehicle I would support!!
> >
> Just be careful of the time of year! I did it to a van
>
> once that seriously needed it but it took dragging it to a
> heated garage to thaw out the door so they would open. I was a 1973
> ford E100, short box, with a 300 six in it. Got great gas mileage,
> hauled anything, [I was a courier] and in the summer it was easy to
> clean. I would love to be able to buy something like that again.
> Bright Blessings,
> Kim
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Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel (was Re: SUV [lack of] mindsets
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