Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread murdoch

Thanks for the article.

Like I was saying about the fuel

These can't come soon enough for me.  Looks like it will be a few years, after
that, before there are enough in the culture for affordable used such vehicles
to be as plentiful as they should be (for those of us who can't afford a new
one).



> For more than seven years now Volkswagen of America has only
> offered one TDI engine in North America.  Due to the poor quality of
> diesel fuel and the onward march of TDI technology in Europe, the TDI
> diesel engine nearly became extinct here in North America - less than a
> year ago Volkswagen of America was looking at phasing diesel out
> after model year 2004.  Due to the tenacity of VW engineers, that
> situation has changed and there are a raft of new TDI offerings coming
> later this year.
> >BIG snip<
> Once new U.S. fuel regulations go into affect in 2006 with low-sulphur diesel 
> fuel,
> Volkswagen of America can finally offer nearly any TDI engine offered in
> Germany without having to worry about the current emissions issues. 
> The future for TDI in North America looks good and Volkswagen is
> determined to pioneer diesel technology into the U.S. marketplace.  It's
> about time.
> [more]


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Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread Hakan


Hi MM,

I want one too and will buy one. I have now an 3 years old Nissan
Primera estate TD and my wife a Golf GTI. We were planning to change
the Golf (7 years now) to a new Golf TDI. My wife says that I need
a larger car, but the truth is that she needs it for her business. Will
try to get her to take the Nissan and we buy a Lupo for me. I do not
drive that much any longer (20,000 km/year) and mostly short trips and
parking in the City. I think I would enjoy a Lupo, acceleration and
top speed is close enough to the Nissan.

Hakan

At 08:42 AM 6/24/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks for the article.
>
>Like I was saying about the fuel
>
>These can't come soon enough for me.  Looks like it will be a few years, after
>that, before there are enough in the culture for affordable used such vehicles
>to be as plentiful as they should be (for those of us who can't afford a new
>one).
>
>
>
> > For more than seven years now Volkswagen of America has only
> > offered one TDI engine in North America.  Due to the poor quality of
> > diesel fuel and the onward march of TDI technology in Europe, the TDI
> > diesel engine nearly became extinct here in North America - less than a
> > year ago Volkswagen of America was looking at phasing diesel out
> > after model year 2004.  Due to the tenacity of VW engineers, that
> > situation has changed and there are a raft of new TDI offerings coming
> > later this year.
> > >BIG snip<
> > Once new U.S. fuel regulations go into affect in 2006 with low-sulphur 
> diesel fuel,
> > Volkswagen of America can finally offer nearly any TDI engine offered in
> > Germany without having to worry about the current emissions issues.
> > The future for TDI in North America looks good and Volkswagen is
> > determined to pioneer diesel technology into the U.S. marketplace.  It's
> > about time.
> > [more]
>
>
>
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Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread murdoch

Does Nissan make a TD?  I didn't know that.  I don't think I've seen it here.
Maybe that's also related to the fuel? Or just low demand?  I don't know.

When there are more gas crises here in the states, (prices are pushing back up a
little, but not yet enough to be noticed in a crisis sort of definition) folks
can't readily turn to biodiesel enough to stir up the ruckus I'd like to see and
I think part of the reason is the lack of consumer diesel cars out there.  Sure,
you have plenty of larger diesel vehicles, but not a lot of smaller diesel cars.
Just a theory.  I think the Oil companies probably don't mind this.  Else, you
might see a slight increase in stories such as were coming from Britain, with
the State complaining that enough folks were trying biodiesel to cut into
fuel-related tax revenues.  I"m looking forward to that kind of story coming
more from the States, so we'll know we're making some progress, but we may have
some more time to wait.  With this delay until 2006 (I guess) for the cleaner
diesel fuel, things seem to be moving at a glacial pace.

MM



On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:50:57 +0200, you wrote:

>
>Hi MM,
>
>I want one too and will buy one. I have now an 3 years old Nissan
>Primera estate TD and my wife a Golf GTI. We were planning to change
>the Golf (7 years now) to a new Golf TDI. My wife says that I need
>a larger car, but the truth is that she needs it for her business. Will
>try to get her to take the Nissan and we buy a Lupo for me. I do not
>drive that much any longer (20,000 km/year) and mostly short trips and
>parking in the City. I think I would enjoy a Lupo, acceleration and
>top speed is close enough to the Nissan.
>
>Hakan


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RE: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express

 >With this delay until 2006 (I guess) for the cleaner
diesel fuel, things seem to be moving at a glacial pace.

I thought it was 2007, so 2006 would be an advance.

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Subject: Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com


Does Nissan make a TD?  I didn't know that.  I don't think I've seen it
here.
Maybe that's also related to the fuel? Or just low demand?  I don't know.

When there are more gas crises here in the states, (prices are pushing back
up a
little, but not yet enough to be noticed in a crisis sort of definition)
folks
can't readily turn to biodiesel enough to stir up the ruckus I'd like to see
and
I think part of the reason is the lack of consumer diesel cars out there.
Sure,
you have plenty of larger diesel vehicles, but not a lot of smaller diesel
cars.
Just a theory.  I think the Oil companies probably don't mind this.  Else,
you
might see a slight increase in stories such as were coming from Britain,
with
the State complaining that enough folks were trying biodiesel to cut into
fuel-related tax revenues.  I"m looking forward to that kind of story coming
more from the States, so we'll know we're making some progress, but we may
have
some more time to wait.  With this delay until 2006 (I guess) for the
cleaner
diesel fuel, things seem to be moving at a glacial pace.

MM



On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:50:57 +0200, you wrote:

>
>Hi MM,
>
>I want one too and will buy one. I have now an 3 years old Nissan
>Primera estate TD and my wife a Golf GTI. We were planning to change
>the Golf (7 years now) to a new Golf TDI. My wife says that I need
>a larger car, but the truth is that she needs it for her business. Will
>try to get her to take the Nissan and we buy a Lupo for me. I do not
>drive that much any longer (20,000 km/year) and mostly short trips and
>parking in the City. I think I would enjoy a Lupo, acceleration and
>top speed is close enough to the Nissan.
>
>Hakan



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Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread MH

> Like I was saying about the fuel
> 
> These can't come soon enough for me.  Looks like it will be a few years, after
> that, before there are enough in the culture for affordable used such vehicles
> to be as plentiful as they should be (for those of us who can't afford a new 
> one). 

 Must be something out there in the used market. 
 I was reading about the -- 

 21,517,415th Golf
 Volkswagen Golf production surpasses the
 original air-cooled Beetle
  compiled by: Jamie Vondruska
  Last edited: 06.25.02
 http://www.vwvortex.com/news/06_02/06_25/index.shtml 

 On Tuesday, June 25th 2002, Volkswagen AG celebrated a very special
 production record.  In the presence of the Chairman of the Board of
 Management of Volkswagen AG, Dr. Bernd Pischetsrieder, and the
 Deputy Chairman of the General and Group Works Council, Bernd
 Sudholt, the 21,517,415th Golf came off the line at the Wolfsburg
 factory.  With this record vehicle, production of the Golf has overtaken
 that of the legendary Beetle, which is still being built at VW de Mexico.
 >snip< 
 The Golf also played a central role in respect
 of employment, he said.  Almost 40,000 people were deployed by
 Volkswagen for its production in six factories throughout the world. 
 >snip< 
 Daily Golf production in six plants throughout the world is currently over
 3,600 units.  Volkswagen manufactures the model at the plants of
 Wolfsburg, Mosel, Brussels, Bratislava, Uitenhage/South Africa and
 Curitiba/Brazil.

 In 2001 Volkswagen delivered a total of 865,500 Golf vehicles to its
 customers.  In the first quarter of 2002 the figure was 205,600 units.
 Apart from Germany, the most important markets in Europe include
 Italy, France and Great Britain.  Outside of Europe, the USA, Japan and
 South Africa are among the leading sales regions for the Golf.
 [more] 





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Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread murdoch

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:43:41 -0500, you wrote:

>> Like I was saying about the fuel
>> 
>> These can't come soon enough for me.  Looks like it will be a few years, 
>> after
>> that, before there are enough in the culture for affordable used such 
>> vehicles
>> to be as plentiful as they should be (for those of us who can't afford a new 
>> one). 
>
> Must be something out there in the used market. 
> I was reading about the -- 
>
> 21,517,415th Golf
> Volkswagen Golf production surpasses the
> original air-cooled Beetle
>  compiled by: Jamie Vondruska
>  Last edited: 06.25.02
> http://www.vwvortex.com/news/06_02/06_25/index.shtml 

Not trying to say that there aren't used decent diesels out there that American
consumers can't buy, just that it seemed to me there was a paucity of them when
I went to look.  That will doubtless be corrected going forward (and there were
other contributing factors to why I didn't buy at the time).  As for Diesel
Golfs, I wonder how many were sold in the U.S.

In our advocacy of EVs, we've run up against a lot of lack of supply of such
vehicles, where manufacturers claimed a lack of demand or some other reason.  In
the case of diesels, I wonder if there are any parallels.  Both vehicles would
allow for some use of fuel outside the traditional Exxon-Mobil station, so this
is part of why I stay on the matter.

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Re: [biofuel] VW Lupo USA - VWvortex.com

2003-06-24 Thread MH

> As for Diesel Golfs, I wonder how many were sold in the U.S.

 I don't know. 

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 lists recent VW of America sales.

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