Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Jim sent me some images of his reactor using the advantages of a venturi, I uploaded them here: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/venturi1.jpg http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/venturi2.jpg http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/venturi3.jpg http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/venturi4.jpg The diagram he referred to is here: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/sca2.pdf See this message for an explanation: http://snipurl.com/qo7z [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
not to sound like a mooch, but i am also curious. i have seen the factory made items, and am interested to know if the hand made version is better for our particular application. - Original Message - From: Chris Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Could you please send it to me too. Thanks. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? A PVC venturi fitting installed on the discharge side of the pump allows yous to suck in your chemicals using a small hose. The pumps horspower when used to push the oil through the fitting causes a vacume at the port down stream of the Orfice or hole that the oil travels through. If you hook a small plastic hose to this you can pull in chemical without pouring it in. This is safe. Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? see above During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? This is one of the great side benefits of what happens when the oil is forced through the orfice - it creates a vacume on the other side when a fluid is sucked in to this area down stream of the orfice a super turbulent hyper mixing action takes place and mixes whatever with the oil - and it will stay that way much longer than through any other type of mixing - This is the principal that the University of Cambridge uses for their processor. Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Yes no matter how you do it some separation of methoxil and oil is going to happen and it goes to the top. But with the venturi you simply place the suction tube to a port that goes down into the processor and pulls this top layer back into the mix with oil from the bottom of the reactor. When the hour is up you end up with Hyper mixed fluid. Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? After you have made a Batch of bio you have a batch of FA - GL (fatty acids Glyceryn) put this in a container with one outlet. Place the suction tube on the outlet. Turn on your pump. (bench mark where the oil is so you can see how much methanol you have pulled in) now gently heat the container of FA-GL Under vacume it will boil out the methanol. as this hot gas is mixed with the cool oil (at atmospheric pressure) it instantly turns to liquid and mixes at the same time. (for acid base only) Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Before you wash your bio turn your pump onn with the venturi on hook it to a chilled reclaimer vessel and hook the syuction port to one side and another line to your processor and be sure you have a closed system. the methanol will drop out in the reclaimer and will be very pure. Once you have it out the bio will wash much better than it did with the methanol in it. One thing NEVER EVER NEVER hook the suction to a water port for washing - this is a gauranteed emulsion with the best bio made. because the venturi mixes so well it will take a long time to settle out. (but it will eventualy) Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. These can be purchased from the internet very reasonably. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
I'm almost finished building my processing system, what is your secret Love to incorporate it before hardware completion. Frank A. Marlowe North Alabama -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:29 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
McMaster sells a CI one. They have a bunch of different models. 4563K63 Motionless Mixing Tee 125 PSI, 1 NPT Female In stock at $54.23 Each JJJN wrote: Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Mine is a 3/4 PVC loke you buy at a pool store for injecting Ozone like a Mazi but it develops 10 of suction. these are around 20 bucks. Marty Phee wrote: McMaster sells a CI one. They have a bunch of different models. 4563K63 Motionless Mixing Tee 125 PSI, 1 NPT Female In stock at $54.23 Each JJJN wrote: Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Please see my reply to Citando, Thanks Jim Frank Marlowe wrote: I'm almost finished building my processing system, what is your secret Love to incorporate it before hardware completion. Frank A. Marlowe North Alabama -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:29 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Jim, I am very interested in your BETTER MIXING idea. thank you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: JJJN To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these:IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS?Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in?During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix?Keep the top 1" (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest?Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch?Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)?Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY.Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor.Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, "can give the proof of the pudding" - this car does not run on water. ;^)Jim ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Frank these will help too, http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/7967/cid/2293 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi http://www.misonix.com/airpollution/Mystaire/Industrial/Venturis http://www.aquariumpros.com/p-KEN12VENT,PFvu.html http://www.ozoneapplications.com/info/venturi_injection_vs_bubble_diffusers.htm http://www.ozoneapplications.com/products/injectors.htm Im not promoting these but the 23$ ones are killer good and another site lets you see how a venturi works. the small 3/4 one works radicaly well with a clearwater pump. Jim JJJN wrote: Please see my reply to Citando, Thanks Jim Frank Marlowe wrote: I'm almost finished building my processing system, what is your secret Love to incorporate it before hardware completion. Frank A. Marlowe North Alabama -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:29 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Hi Bud, Please check these out, I am not promoting these sites but I can tell you the $23 range is really good and that is what I use with my clear water pump. One site has a demo on how a venturi works and is well worth seeing, as you can also see the Hyper mixing action in place. http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/7967/cid/2293 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi http://www.misonix.com/airpollution/Mystaire/Industrial/Venturis http://www.aquariumpros.com/p-KEN12VENT,PFvu.html http://www.ozoneapplications.com/info/venturi_injection_vs_bubble_diffusers.htm http://www.ozoneapplications.com/products/injectors.htm My best, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I am very interested in your BETTER MIXING idea. thank you [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* JJJN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:29 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be* http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Could you please send it to me too. Thanks. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? A PVC venturi fitting installed on the discharge side of the pump allows yous to suck in your chemicals using a small hose. The pumps horspower when used to push the oil through the fitting causes a vacume at the port down stream of the Orfice or hole that the oil travels through. If you hook a small plastic hose to this you can pull in chemical without pouring it in. This is safe. Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? see above During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? This is one of the great side benefits of what happens when the oil is forced through the orfice - it creates a vacume on the other side when a fluid is sucked in to this area down stream of the orfice a super turbulent hyper mixing action takes place and mixes whatever with the oil - and it will stay that way much longer than through any other type of mixing - This is the principal that the University of Cambridge uses for their processor. Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Yes no matter how you do it some separation of methoxil and oil is going to happen and it goes to the top. But with the venturi you simply place the suction tube to a port that goes down into the processor and pulls this top layer back into the mix with oil from the bottom of the reactor. When the hour is up you end up with Hyper mixed fluid. Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? After you have made a Batch of bio you have a batch of FA - GL (fatty acids Glyceryn) put this in a container with one outlet. Place the suction tube on the outlet. Turn on your pump. (bench mark where the oil is so you can see how much methanol you have pulled in) now gently heat the container of FA-GL Under vacume it will boil out the methanol. as this hot gas is mixed with the cool oil (at atmospheric pressure) it instantly turns to liquid and mixes at the same time. (for acid base only) Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Before you wash your bio turn your pump onn with the venturi on hook it to a chilled reclaimer vessel and hook the syuction port to one side and another line to your processor and be sure you have a closed system. the methanol will drop out in the reclaimer and will be very pure. Once you have it out the bio will wash much better than it did with the methanol in it. One thing NEVER EVER NEVER hook the suction to a water port for washing - this is a gauranteed emulsion with the best bio made. because the venturi mixes so well it will take a long time to settle out. (but it will eventualy) Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. These can be purchased from the internet very reasonably. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Email gratuito com 2 000 MB Espaço para guardar 1 milhão de mensagens http://www.portugalmail.pt/2000mb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Email gratuito com 2 000 MB Espaço para guardar 1 milhão de mensagens http://www.portugalmail.pt/2000mb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Hello, I am interested too regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Email gratuito com 2 000 MB Espaço para guardar 1 milhão de mensagens http://www.portugalmail.pt/2000mb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Jim, I've been following the exchange of info.between you and Joe w. great interest. Tom - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
LOL! I love the way you are so stoked about this Jim! Joe JJJN wrote: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Hi Jim, Is this your venturi you have been experimenting with? Tell me more. Bob - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:29 AM Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
I'm curious too! Have a super day. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:29 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
What's the ebay item number for the information? chuckle ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Thomas, Please see my post to Citando, and if you have questions feel free. Jim Thomas Kelly wrote: Jim, I've been following the exchange of info.between you and Joe w. great interest. Tom - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Gary, Please see my post to Citando, and if you have questions feel free. Jim Gary Plencner wrote: I'm curious too! Have a super day. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:29 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Please see my post to Citando Tonomar, Jim Tonomár András wrote: Hello, I am interested too regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Email gratuito com 2 000 MB Espaço para guardar 1 milhão de mensagens http://www.portugalmail.pt/2000mb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Bob, Please see my post to Citando, and if you have questions feel free. Jim Bob Carr wrote: Hi Jim, Is this your venturi you have been experimenting with? Tell me more. Bob - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:29 AM Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? A PVC venturi fitting installed on the discharge side of the pump allows yous to suck in your chemicals using a small hose. The pumps horspower when used to push the oil through the fitting causes a vacume at the port down stream of the Orfice or hole that the oil travels through. If you hook a small plastic hose to this you can pull in chemical without pouring it in. This is safe. Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? see above During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? This is one of the great side benefits of what happens when the oil is forced through the orfice - it creates a vacume on the other side when a fluid is sucked in to this area down stream of the orfice a super turbulent hyper mixing action takes place and mixes whatever with the oil - and it will stay that way much longer than through any other type of mixing - This is the principal that the University of Cambridge uses for their processor. Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Yes no matter how you do it some separation of methoxil and oil is going to happen and it goes to the top. But with the venturi you simply place the suction tube to a port that goes down into the processor and pulls this top layer back into the mix with oil from the bottom of the reactor. When the hour is up you end up with Hyper mixed fluid. Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? After you have made a Batch of bio you have a batch of FA - GL (fatty acids Glyceryn) put this in a container with one outlet. Place the suction tube on the outlet. Turn on your pump. (bench mark where the oil is so you can see how much methanol you have pulled in) now gently heat the container of FA-GL Under vacume it will boil out the methanol. as this hot gas is mixed with the cool oil (at atmospheric pressure) it instantly turns to liquid and mixes at the same time. (for acid base only) Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Before you wash your bio turn your pump onn with the venturi on hook it to a chilled reclaimer vessel and hook the syuction port to one side and another line to your processor and be sure you have a closed system. the methanol will drop out in the reclaimer and will be very pure. Once you have it out the bio will wash much better than it did with the methanol in it. One thing NEVER EVER NEVER hook the suction to a water port for washing - this is a gauranteed emulsion with the best bio made. because the venturi mixes so well it will take a long time to settle out. (but it will eventualy) Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. These can be purchased from the internet very reasonably. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Email gratuito com 2 000 MB Espaço para guardar 1 milhão de mensagens http://www.portugalmail.pt/2000mb ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Thanks Joe, Like you I have been given so much from this international group that my goal is to just give something simple and useful back to help others. Jim Joe Street wrote: LOL! I love the way you are so stoked about this Jim! Joe JJJN wrote: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
Someone is typing as we speak just watch for amazing biodiesel secret or new discovery be the first to know! ;^) Jim Ken Dunn wrote: What's the ebay item number for the information? chuckle ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
