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Keith, Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. No doubt. You don't seem to have read what I wrote though. You're telling me about Rumsfeld and aspartame, for instance, but I already said that. Hopeless confusion - in your attempts to defend Sloppy Mark you're now trying to convince me of the dangers of Tamiflu. The remarks about aspartame were merely a by-the-way. The link above this btw was exactly what you wanted, i.e., Mercola's take on Rumsfeld. :-( You keep re-interpreting what Mark said. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. He didn't say that, he said this: Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] It's wrong, the FDA does not declare it safe, they stipulate a warning, over exactly what Mark refers to, which is the deaths in Japan. Of course it's just a band-aid, that's not the point. That is the point. The band-aid warning does not declare it unsafe. As long as the stuff is out there, being prescribed, it is assumed safe when used as directed, the standard proviso for all drugs including injected ones. Maybe we'll have agree to disagree? Peace, D. Mindock The point is that Mark said the FDA declares it safe, but they don't. Mark's wrong, that's all there is to it. If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy... Your continuing confusion about it is simply added testimony. When people are inaccurate and shrill like Mark they end up preaching only to the converted. Like you're doing with me. It furthers no causes. Never mind, I give up. Keith Hi Keith, Here's a link that shows that Mercola thinks Rumsfeld is profiting handsomely from the hoax: http://www.mercola.com/2006/apr/4/donald_rumsfeld_rakes_in_5_million_ for_tamiflu.htm BTW, Rumsfeld also is raking it in from aspartame, a neurotoxin sold as a sweetener, with approval of FDA (after years of its rejection.) The area of product safety is a gray one. It is one of risk/benefit ratio. No drug is safe but all are sold for short term use and to be used as directed. What the FDA did wrt tamiflu is try to put a band-aid solution, a precautionary warning, on a vaccine that is worst than most. Does that make it unsafe? If it were unsafe it should be taken off the market. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. As long as it's being used it will kill again in spite of the precaution. You know that. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM G'day Kirk, Not Kirk, it was me. Mercola says the bird flu is a hoax. Yes I know he says that, I said I didn't know what he said about Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld Bird Flu Hoax Original breaking story that you won't find anywhere else in the news. Read what the media won?t tell you about the Avian flu hoax. www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm - Mar 23, 2007 - Also I think Mark means when he says that If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy. Weary and POed, well my heart bleeds for him poor feller. Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. Best Keith the FDA says Tamiflu is safe is that it does not take it off the market but merely says be careful shortly after the shot is adminstered. All drugs are to be used as directed, right? I think Mark is much more right than wrong on this. Yes, he can be shrill but I think he is that way because he sees his job as one of waking people up. (plus I think he is weary and POed) We are at a point in history where our health freedom is in a precarious position. As you know most people are either apathetic, ignorant, or cannot bring themselves to believe what Big Pharma has in store for them. We live now with freedoms of choice here that have already disappeared in other countries. It looks like the USA is the last country that is supposed to give up our vitamins, supplements, etc. The Codex Alimentarius is due to kick in on Dec 31, 2009. We're to be pushed into a killer system which intends not to heal but to mask symptoms with toxic drugs, surgeries, and radiation; all expensive and deadly. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of
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Hello DM Well, if you insist... Make sure you read it all, and if I were you I'd go back and read my original reply too. The link above this btw was exactly what you wanted, i.e., Mercola's take on Rumsfeld. Here your link: Here's a link that shows that Mercola thinks Rumsfeld is profiting handsomely from the hoax: http://www.mercola.com/2006/apr/4/donald_rumsfeld_rakes_in_5_million_ for_tamiflu.htm It refers to a Common Dreams post of an article in the Independent: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-06.htm Published on Sunday, March 12, 2006 by the lndependent/UK http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article350787.ece Donald Rumsfeld Makes $5 Million Killing on Bird Flu Drug Mercola has used less than a third of the article, plus his comments. It does not include the information I posted about how the US military has been involved in this. Mercola uses the article excerpt to tout his book The Great Bird Flu Hoax. I don't know if his book covers that angle but I doubt it. Also, of course, I've read this article before, AND it's been posted to the list before - by you - AND I've referred to it onlist before. Here's the archives link: http://snipurl.com/q4sv [Biofuel] Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu So that's not a big help is it. Especially since (as with aspartame) I'd already said Rumsfeld was profiting handsomely from bird flu. But then you still haven't read my message have you, in your haste to defend your friend Mark Sircus. Also, bird flu is not a hoax. The risk of the emergence of a human-to-human HPAI H5N1 virus is real, even though it's been overhyped as much more urgent and imminent a threat than it probably is - the hype's a hoax, but the bird flu risk is not a hoax. (Quite apart from a few hundred million murdered birds.) Then there's this: You keep re-interpreting what Mark said. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. He didn't say that, he said this: Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] It's wrong, the FDA does not declare it safe, they stipulate a warning, over exactly what Mark refers to, which is the deaths in Japan. Of course it's just a band-aid, that's not the point. That is the point. The band-aid warning does not declare it unsafe. As long as the stuff is out there, being prescribed, it is assumed safe when used as directed, the standard proviso for all drugs including injected ones. You can try to make any point you like, but in fact all you're doing is trying to gloss over the fact that Sircus is an incompetent who can't be bothered to get his facts right. The point is that Mark said the FDA declares it safe, but they don't. Mark's wrong, that's all there is to it. There's no place here for inaccuracies and sloppy reporting, REGARDLESS OF THE CAUSE BEING PROMOTED. Are you being even-handed? If you'd found such inaccuracies in an article promoting Tamiflu instead of attacking it, would you have defended the reporter like you've tried to defend Mark Sircus? His sloppiness does his cause HARM, not good. Actually it was just a rant, I don't think he added anything new and he couldn't even get it right. I added something I'd bet neither of you knew (and probably still don't), but you seem to have been doing your best to bury it in your defence of the indefensible. Maybe we'll have agree to disagree? I think not. Don't cross-post any more messages here from Mark Sircus, he has no credibility. And no further posts from you in this thread please. Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner Keith, Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. No doubt. You don't seem to have read what I wrote though. You're telling me about Rumsfeld and aspartame, for instance, but I already said that. Hopeless confusion - in your attempts to defend Sloppy Mark you're now trying to convince me of the dangers of Tamiflu. The remarks about aspartame were merely a by-the-way. The link above this btw was exactly what you wanted, i.e., Mercola's take on Rumsfeld. :-( You keep re-interpreting what Mark said. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. He didn't say that, he said this: Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] It's wrong, the FDA does not declare it safe, they stipulate a warning, over exactly what Mark refers to, which is the deaths in Japan. Of course it's just a band-aid, that's not the point. That is the point. The band-aid warning does not declare it unsafe. As long as the stuff is out there, being prescribed, it is assumed safe when used as directed, the standard proviso for all drugs including injected ones. Maybe we'll have agree to disagree?
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Hi Keith, Here's a link that shows that Mercola thinks Rumsfeld is profiting handsomely from the hoax: http://www.mercola.com/2006/apr/4/donald_rumsfeld_rakes_in_5_million_for_tamiflu.htm BTW, Rumsfeld also is raking it in from aspartame, a neurotoxin sold as a sweetener, with approval of FDA (after years of its rejection.) The area of product safety is a gray one. It is one of risk/benefit ratio. No drug is safe but all are sold for short term use and to be used as directed. What the FDA did wrt tamiflu is try to put a band-aid solution, a precautionary warning, on a vaccine that is worst than most. Does that make it unsafe? If it were unsafe it should be taken off the market. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. As long as it's being used it will kill again in spite of the precaution. You know that. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM G'day Kirk, Not Kirk, it was me. Mercola says the bird flu is a hoax. Yes I know he says that, I said I didn't know what he said about Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld Bird Flu Hoax Original breaking story that you won't find anywhere else in the news. Read what the media won?t tell you about the Avian flu hoax. www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm - Mar 23, 2007 - Also I think Mark means when he says that If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy. Weary and POed, well my heart bleeds for him poor feller. Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. Best Keith the FDA says Tamiflu is safe is that it does not take it off the market but merely says be careful shortly after the shot is adminstered. All drugs are to be used as directed, right? I think Mark is much more right than wrong on this. Yes, he can be shrill but I think he is that way because he sees his job as one of waking people up. (plus I think he is weary and POed) We are at a point in history where our health freedom is in a precarious position. As you know most people are either apathetic, ignorant, or cannot bring themselves to believe what Big Pharma has in store for them. We live now with freedoms of choice here that have already disappeared in other countries. It looks like the USA is the last country that is supposed to give up our vitamins, supplements, etc. The Codex Alimentarius is due to kick in on Dec 31, 2009. We're to be pushed into a killer system which intends not to heal but to mask symptoms with toxic drugs, surgeries, and radiation; all expensive and deadly. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] [i] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said it received 103 reports of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior, mostly in Japanese children treated with Tamiflu, between Aug. 29, 2005, and July 6, 2006. Not correct. See: http://sciencedaily.healthology.com/infectious-diseases/article3955.htm Tamiflu Linked to Self-Injury, Delirium November 16, 2006 (HealthCentersOnline) - Reports of self-injury and delirium associated with the use of Tamiflu has prompted the U.S. Food Drug Administration to require new warning be inserted in the prescribing and patient information. ... the revised patient information includes the following warning: People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking TAMIFLU and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking TAMIFLU shows any signs of unusual behavior. That was quite widely reported (on MSN eg). Mark Sircus is writing three and a half months later. Sloppy. He should be more careful. I wonder what else he didn't get right. Donald Rumsfeld is a good example of a modern day Herod who sends his toxic chemicals out into the world (aspartame and Tamiflu) knowing full well people are suffering and dying in huge numbers because of them. Hm. Not if you look at the death certificates though. Yes yes I know, but it doesn't help to be shrill and inaccurate. I don't know what Mercola says about Rumsfeld in his bird flu scam book, but apart from the Rumsfeld-Gilead connection (see http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3415name=Avian- FluAvian)it's worth checking what the GRAIN reports on bird flu I posted the other day have to say about Rumsfeld. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69185.html [Biofuel] Fowl play: The poultry
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Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. No doubt. You don't seem to have read what I wrote though. You're telling me about Rumsfeld and aspartame, for instance, but I already said that. Hopeless confusion - in your attempts to defend Sloppy Mark you're now trying to convince me of the dangers of Tamiflu. :-( You keep re-interpreting what Mark said. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. He didn't say that, he said this: Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] It's wrong, the FDA does not declare it safe, they stipulate a warning, over exactly what Mark refers to, which is the deaths in Japan. Of course it's just a band-aid, that's not the point. The point is that Mark said the FDA declares it safe, but they don't. Mark's wrong, that's all there is to it. If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy... Your continuing confusion about it is simply added testimony. When people are inaccurate and shrill like Mark they end up preaching only to the converted. Like you're doing with me. It furthers no causes. Never mind, I give up. Keith Hi Keith, Here's a link that shows that Mercola thinks Rumsfeld is profiting handsomely from the hoax: http://www.mercola.com/2006/apr/4/donald_rumsfeld_rakes_in_5_million_ for_tamiflu.htm BTW, Rumsfeld also is raking it in from aspartame, a neurotoxin sold as a sweetener, with approval of FDA (after years of its rejection.) The area of product safety is a gray one. It is one of risk/benefit ratio. No drug is safe but all are sold for short term use and to be used as directed. What the FDA did wrt tamiflu is try to put a band-aid solution, a precautionary warning, on a vaccine that is worst than most. Does that make it unsafe? If it were unsafe it should be taken off the market. So Mark says they say it's safe by not removing it. As long as it's being used it will kill again in spite of the precaution. You know that. I did read his entire article, not just excerpts. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM G'day Kirk, Not Kirk, it was me. Mercola says the bird flu is a hoax. Yes I know he says that, I said I didn't know what he said about Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld Bird Flu Hoax Original breaking story that you won't find anywhere else in the news. Read what the media won?t tell you about the Avian flu hoax. www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm - Mar 23, 2007 - Also I think Mark means when he says that If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy. Weary and POed, well my heart bleeds for him poor feller. Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. Best Keith the FDA says Tamiflu is safe is that it does not take it off the market but merely says be careful shortly after the shot is adminstered. All drugs are to be used as directed, right? I think Mark is much more right than wrong on this. Yes, he can be shrill but I think he is that way because he sees his job as one of waking people up. (plus I think he is weary and POed) We are at a point in history where our health freedom is in a precarious position. As you know most people are either apathetic, ignorant, or cannot bring themselves to believe what Big Pharma has in store for them. We live now with freedoms of choice here that have already disappeared in other countries. It looks like the USA is the last country that is supposed to give up our vitamins, supplements, etc. The Codex Alimentarius is due to kick in on Dec 31, 2009. We're to be pushed into a killer system which intends not to heal but to mask symptoms with toxic drugs, surgeries, and radiation; all expensive and deadly. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] [i] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said it received 103 reports of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior, mostly in Japanese children treated with Tamiflu, between Aug. 29, 2005, and July 6, 2006. Not correct. See: http://sciencedaily.healthology.com/infectious-diseases/article3955.htm Tamiflu Linked to
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Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] [i] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said it received 103 reports of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior, mostly in Japanese children treated with Tamiflu, between Aug. 29, 2005, and July 6, 2006. Not correct. See: http://sciencedaily.healthology.com/infectious-diseases/article3955.htm Tamiflu Linked to Self-Injury, Delirium November 16, 2006 (HealthCentersOnline) - Reports of self-injury and delirium associated with the use of Tamiflu has prompted the U.S. Food Drug Administration to require new warning be inserted in the prescribing and patient information. ... the revised patient information includes the following warning: People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking TAMIFLU and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking TAMIFLU shows any signs of unusual behavior. That was quite widely reported (on MSN eg). Mark Sircus is writing three and a half months later. Sloppy. He should be more careful. I wonder what else he didn't get right. Donald Rumsfeld is a good example of a modern day Herod who sends his toxic chemicals out into the world (aspartame and Tamiflu) knowing full well people are suffering and dying in huge numbers because of them. Hm. Not if you look at the death certificates though. Yes yes I know, but it doesn't help to be shrill and inaccurate. I don't know what Mercola says about Rumsfeld in his bird flu scam book, but apart from the Rumsfeld-Gilead connection (see http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3415name=Avian- FluAvian)it's worth checking what the GRAIN reports on bird flu I posted the other day have to say about Rumsfeld. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69185.html [Biofuel] Fowl play: The poultry industry's central role in the bird flu GRAIN: February 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69187.html [Biofuel] The top-down global response to bird flu GRAIN: April 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69181.html [Biofuel] Bird flu: a bonanza for 'Big Chicken' GRAIN: March 2007 Briefly, Rumsfeld was chairman of GD Searle (Nutrasweet - aspartame) and was allegedly instrumental in getting aspartame declared safe when it shouldn't have been. Monsanto bought Searle, Rumsfeld left with a $12 million payoff. Ten years ago Rumsfeld became chairman of Gilead Sciences, which developed Tamiflu and owns the Tamiflu patent. Rumsfeld is still the largest or one of the largest shareholders in Gilead. Gilead sold the exclusive license for Tamiflu to Roche. The WHO and Western governments are pushing Tamiflu as the best defence against a possible human flu pandemic arising from bird flu, and Rumsfeld is making millions out of it. Read on... Of pandemics and patents The H5N1 virus was first noticed and identified when it took its first human victims in Hong Kong in 1997. A few years later, in 2003, similar deaths were reported in Viet Nam and then in Thailand. The following year it killed people further afield in Indonesia, China and Cambodia. Until mid-2005, bird flu was generally seen as an 'Asian' problem. Then the World Health Organisation took the huge political decision to tell the world that we are on the verge of a global human pandemic that could kill 150 million people. As intended, the effect was dramatic. Bird flu is essentially a poultry disease. The WHO [Feb 2006] tallies less than 200 confirmed human cases of H5N1 and under 100 deaths, most of them through contact with infected chickens. The big worry is that H5N1 will mutate into a form that is readily transmitted from human to human. After all, influenza viruses replicate like crazy, but very sloppily, generating constant mutations. Once this happens, the consequences could be immediate and severe, as it is assumed that most people do not have antibodies against H5N1. The WHO pronouncement triggered, for the first time, concern about avian flu in the West. In no time at all, the spotlight fell on the Swiss drug giant, Roche. Roche has the exclusive license to produce Tamiflu (the trade name for oseltamivir), an anti-viral believed to have some effect in reducing the spread of avian flu in humans. It was developed and patented by Gilead Sciences, a US drug firm which gave Roche the exclusive right to manufacture the pill. With huge corporate media attention, Tamiflu -- and Roche -- suddenly became the answer to the potential pandemic. It is, however, not at all certain that Tamiflu would be a help, should a human pandemic break out. Tamiflu's effectiveness is highly contested, and it carries important side-effects as well. It does reduce the
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G'day Kirk, Mercola says the bird flu is a hoax. Rumsfeld Bird Flu Hoax Original breaking story that you won't find anywhere else in the news. Read what the media won?t tell you about the Avian flu hoax. www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm - Mar 23, 2007 - Also I think Mark means when he says that the FDA says Tamiflu is safe is that it does not take it off the market but merely says be careful shortly after the shot is adminstered. All drugs are to be used as directed, right? I think Mark is much more right than wrong on this. Yes, he can be shrill but I think he is that way because he sees his job as one of waking people up. (plus I think he is weary and POed) We are at a point in history where our health freedom is in a precarious position. As you know most people are either apathetic, ignorant, or cannot bring themselves to believe what Big Pharma has in store for them. We live now with freedoms of choice here that have already disappeared in other countries. It looks like the USA is the last country that is supposed to give up our vitamins, supplements, etc. The Codex Alimentarius is due to kick in on Dec 31, 2009. We're to be pushed into a killer system which intends not to heal but to mask symptoms with toxic drugs, surgeries, and radiation; all expensive and deadly. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] [i] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said it received 103 reports of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior, mostly in Japanese children treated with Tamiflu, between Aug. 29, 2005, and July 6, 2006. Not correct. See: http://sciencedaily.healthology.com/infectious-diseases/article3955.htm Tamiflu Linked to Self-Injury, Delirium November 16, 2006 (HealthCentersOnline) - Reports of self-injury and delirium associated with the use of Tamiflu has prompted the U.S. Food Drug Administration to require new warning be inserted in the prescribing and patient information. ... the revised patient information includes the following warning: People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking TAMIFLU and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking TAMIFLU shows any signs of unusual behavior. That was quite widely reported (on MSN eg). Mark Sircus is writing three and a half months later. Sloppy. He should be more careful. I wonder what else he didn't get right. Donald Rumsfeld is a good example of a modern day Herod who sends his toxic chemicals out into the world (aspartame and Tamiflu) knowing full well people are suffering and dying in huge numbers because of them. Hm. Not if you look at the death certificates though. Yes yes I know, but it doesn't help to be shrill and inaccurate. I don't know what Mercola says about Rumsfeld in his bird flu scam book, but apart from the Rumsfeld-Gilead connection (see http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3415name=Avian- FluAvian)it's worth checking what the GRAIN reports on bird flu I posted the other day have to say about Rumsfeld. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69185.html [Biofuel] Fowl play: The poultry industry's central role in the bird flu GRAIN: February 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69187.html [Biofuel] The top-down global response to bird flu GRAIN: April 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69181.html [Biofuel] Bird flu: a bonanza for 'Big Chicken' GRAIN: March 2007 Briefly, Rumsfeld was chairman of GD Searle (Nutrasweet - aspartame) and was allegedly instrumental in getting aspartame declared safe when it shouldn't have been. Monsanto bought Searle, Rumsfeld left with a $12 million payoff. Ten years ago Rumsfeld became chairman of Gilead Sciences, which developed Tamiflu and owns the Tamiflu patent. Rumsfeld is still the largest or one of the largest shareholders in Gilead. Gilead sold the exclusive license for Tamiflu to Roche. The WHO and Western governments are pushing Tamiflu as the best defence against a possible human flu pandemic arising from bird flu, and Rumsfeld is making millions out of it. Read on... Of pandemics and patents The H5N1 virus was first noticed and identified when it took its first human victims in Hong Kong in 1997. A few years later, in 2003, similar deaths were reported in Viet Nam and then in Thailand. The following year it killed people further afield in Indonesia, China and Cambodia. Until mid-2005, bird flu was generally seen as an 'Asian' problem. Then the World Health Organisation took the huge political decision to tell the world that we are on the verge of a global human pandemic that could kill 150 million people. As
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Hello DM G'day Kirk, Not Kirk, it was me. Mercola says the bird flu is a hoax. Yes I know he says that, I said I didn't know what he said about Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld Bird Flu Hoax Original breaking story that you won't find anywhere else in the news. Read what the media won?t tell you about the Avian flu hoax. www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm - Mar 23, 2007 - Also I think Mark means when he says that If Mark sees his job as one of waking people up then you shouldn't have to say I think what Mark means when he says that... or that he's much more right than wrong on this. He has an obligation to get it right, it's easy enough to check but he got it wrong. If you want to wake people up then it should be clear and straightforward but it's shrill and sloppy. Weary and POed, well my heart bleeds for him poor feller. Pity you don't seem to have read the rest of it. Oh well. Best Keith the FDA says Tamiflu is safe is that it does not take it off the market but merely says be careful shortly after the shot is adminstered. All drugs are to be used as directed, right? I think Mark is much more right than wrong on this. Yes, he can be shrill but I think he is that way because he sees his job as one of waking people up. (plus I think he is weary and POed) We are at a point in history where our health freedom is in a precarious position. As you know most people are either apathetic, ignorant, or cannot bring themselves to believe what Big Pharma has in store for them. We live now with freedoms of choice here that have already disappeared in other countries. It looks like the USA is the last country that is supposed to give up our vitamins, supplements, etc. The Codex Alimentarius is due to kick in on Dec 31, 2009. We're to be pushed into a killer system which intends not to heal but to mask symptoms with toxic drugs, surgeries, and radiation; all expensive and deadly. Peace, D. Mindock Hello DM Tamiflu is just one of many cases where children are dying and the FDA stands firm declaring it safe.[i] [i] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has said it received 103 reports of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior, mostly in Japanese children treated with Tamiflu, between Aug. 29, 2005, and July 6, 2006. Not correct. See: http://sciencedaily.healthology.com/infectious-diseases/article3955.htm Tamiflu Linked to Self-Injury, Delirium November 16, 2006 (HealthCentersOnline) - Reports of self-injury and delirium associated with the use of Tamiflu has prompted the U.S. Food Drug Administration to require new warning be inserted in the prescribing and patient information. ... the revised patient information includes the following warning: People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking TAMIFLU and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking TAMIFLU shows any signs of unusual behavior. That was quite widely reported (on MSN eg). Mark Sircus is writing three and a half months later. Sloppy. He should be more careful. I wonder what else he didn't get right. Donald Rumsfeld is a good example of a modern day Herod who sends his toxic chemicals out into the world (aspartame and Tamiflu) knowing full well people are suffering and dying in huge numbers because of them. Hm. Not if you look at the death certificates though. Yes yes I know, but it doesn't help to be shrill and inaccurate. I don't know what Mercola says about Rumsfeld in his bird flu scam book, but apart from the Rumsfeld-Gilead connection (see http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3415name=Avian- FluAvian)it's worth checking what the GRAIN reports on bird flu I posted the other day have to say about Rumsfeld. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69185.html [Biofuel] Fowl play: The poultry industry's central role in the bird flu GRAIN: February 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69187.html [Biofuel] The top-down global response to bird flu GRAIN: April 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69181.html [Biofuel] Bird flu: a bonanza for 'Big Chicken' GRAIN: March 2007 Briefly, Rumsfeld was chairman of GD Searle (Nutrasweet - aspartame) and was allegedly instrumental in getting aspartame declared safe when it shouldn't have been. Monsanto bought Searle, Rumsfeld left with a $12 million payoff. Ten years ago Rumsfeld became chairman of Gilead Sciences, which developed Tamiflu and owns the Tamiflu patent. Rumsfeld is still the largest or one of the largest shareholders in Gilead. Gilead sold the exclusive license for Tamiflu to Roche. The WHO and Western governments are pushing Tamiflu as the best defence against a
