Re: [svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash....

2005-01-27 Thread Jaime Fournier

Is there anyway to do the samething with SVG and say open non windows 
specific technologies? I am thinking of some kind of DB that I could query 
data from, more likely something like memcached.

Would love any other examples of svg that call back end processes to 
display some type of stream data from the backend with little or no 
interactive portions on the front end for the user.

Thanks ina advance!

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, stevenjmarks wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure about the particular application you have in mind, but
> I would differ with your generalization that SVG as a font end GUI
> to a back-end database "couldn't hack it".
>
> Take a look at www.GalacticPathways.com. This application has a 100%
> SVG front-end with a .NET/C#/SQL Server back-end.  It does all the
> real-time database interaction you're taking about.
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "arianhojat2000"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> well i would like to have an administration user interface, that is
>> made dynamically. hence flash. now svg is great as an open standard
>> but in terms of a front end for an App, an SVG/Image App, i dont
> think
>> it could hack it (i am however using SVG as a powerful 'backend
> typw
>> features to store my image info'). Flash MX 2004 however has very
>> powerful features in terms of developing front ends for
> applications
>> and communicating with databases to get info to display/DOM
>> manipulation.. i would prefer to hold this info in SVG and display
> it
>> using Flash. Now i could do the same user interface within Java
>> language, but i hear flash as a GUI front end kicks Java's ass, in
>> terms of performance [probably still use java as a backend
> though]. Do
>> you think that this is a situation where just SVG by itself would
> not
>> be able to handle things i want? if not show me a friend end SVG
> that
>> communicates to a database onLoad an SVGpage, or onclick a button
> to
>> call a complex Java code. I realize svg has scripting abilities but
>> saometimes u just need more powerful backend (Java)
>> and as a front end app, i do not think i have seen too many SVG as
> a
>> complete front end App (using Batik in Java is rather slowww for
>> graphics stuff flash already does at reasonable speed and 98% of
>> computers have it installed).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> euh... How about asking that to a Flash developers list ;-)
>>>
>>> But seriously: I guess it could be done, although I've never seen
>> it. I seem to remember that one can use activeX objects in flash
>> (maybe through some add-on or plugin), so you might be able to
> start
>> the ASV viewer inside Flash...
>>>
>>> My main question is: Why would you want to...?
>>>
>>> 
>>> Barend Köbben
>>> International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth
>> Observation (ITC)
>>> PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands)
>>> ph: +31-(0)534874253; fax: +31-(0)534874335
>>> _
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: arianhojat2000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wed 26-Jan-05 17:48
>>> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [svg-developers] svg in a FLASH APP?!?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hehe. i was wondering could i mess with a dynamic xml/svg
> document in
>>> flash and display it with maybe a few jpegs from the server
> [filtered
>>> with svg and watermarked with svg] and display it all at same
> time
>>> within Flash?
>>>
>>> i would make slight modificiations to the image like filter
> effects,
>>> resizing with svg, but was wondring then could it be dynamically
>>> displayed in flash?
>>>
>>> if anyone can post a simple .fla demonstrating how it could be
> done or
>>> a direction to go in. thanx!
>>>
>>>
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[svg-developers] about batik svg toolkit

2005-01-27 Thread pukkypa


hi all,
i'm new to svg. i heard batik svg toolkit so i would like to know what 
its can do. could anyone suggest me? i saw in the website ex. it can 
convert SVG to various formats, such as raster images (JPEG,PNG or 
Tiff). are there other any features of this software?
thanks in advance for any help.
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[svg-developers] Re: Sample SVG with Java

2005-01-27 Thread arianhojat2000


i made a fairly cool app using java/SVG ( using Batik libraries for
displaying saving and loading SVG). Its not a corporate App, just a
personal 'simple' project for a class. code isnt great but
understandible i think (coullda used more modular OOP hehe)

http://www.topxml.com/code/?p=3&id=v20040618151339




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> I am new to SVG; are there any samples available to
> create SVG using JAVA instead of JavaScript.
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[svg-developers] Re: Various conversion utilities

2005-01-27 Thread zedkineece


No offense, Jeroen, but we tried a demo of your PDF to Vector for 
Windows product with mixed results. 

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> Hi there zedkineece,
> 
> My company makes commercial batch conversion tools that can 
generate "editable" SVG (assuming vector-based input) from PDF, WMF, 
EPS and PostScript input. It's available in desktop, server and 
developer versions on Windows, Linux and UNIX platforms. Vector 
graphics, raster images and text strings are all converted and 
preserved as such in the SVG output.
> 
> Depending on the nature of your files, we might have a custom 
solution for your CGM files as well.
> 
> Please contact me off-list with some sample files if interested. 
More information about our software, company and customers is 
available at the URL below. Our graphics conversion tools have been 
around since 1995. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
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>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:25:40 -
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> Subject: Various conversion utilities
> 
> 
> We have a customer that has a mixture of file formats they want 
> converted to SVG. PDF, DXF, CGM and WMF make up most of the source 
> images. Most of the images do not have a "source", and are 
basically 
> the only copy of the image they have. Most are CGM and PDF. Does 
any 
> one of you know of any utilities that can convert 1000's of 
images? 
> We need to convert to real SVG, not embed. One of the biggest 
> requirements is "editable" SVG as a result. So embedding a 
converted 
> version of the image is not an option.
> 
> Any ideas are greatly appreciated.





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[svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash....

2005-01-27 Thread stevenjmarks


Yeah I'm a real pain in the ass :-)

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Bierman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve,
>  
> There you go again--saying that something can be done just because 
it has.
> That's a pretty weak argument. :^)
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Michael Bierman
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: stevenjmarks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:29 PM
> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure about the particular application you have in mind, 
but 
> I would differ with your generalization that SVG as a font end GUI 
> to a back-end database "couldn't hack it".
> 
> Take a look at www.GalacticPathways.com. This application has a 
100% 
> SVG front-end with a .NET/C#/SQL Server back-end.  It does all the 
> real-time database interaction you're taking about.
> 
> Steve 
> 
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "arianhojat2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > well i would like to have an administration user interface, that 
is
> > made dynamically. hence flash. now svg is great as an open 
standard
> > but in terms of a front end for an App, an SVG/Image App, i dont 
> think
> > it could hack it (i am however using SVG as a powerful 'backend 
> typw
> > features to store my image info'). Flash MX 2004 however has very
> > powerful features in terms of developing front ends for 
> applications
> > and communicating with databases to get info to display/DOM
> > manipulation.. i would prefer to hold this info in SVG and 
display 
> it
> > using Flash. Now i could do the same user interface within Java
> > language, but i hear flash as a GUI front end kicks Java's ass, 
in
> > terms of performance [probably still use java as a backend 
> though]. Do
> > you think that this is a situation where just SVG by itself 
would 
> not
> > be able to handle things i want? if not show me a friend end SVG 
> that
> > communicates to a database onLoad an SVGpage, or onclick a 
button 
> to
> > call a complex Java code. I realize svg has scripting abilities 
but
> > saometimes u just need more powerful backend (Java)
> > and as a front end app, i do not think i have seen too many SVG 
as 
> a
> > complete front end App (using Batik in Java is rather slowww for
> > graphics stuff flash already does at reasonable speed and 98% of
> > computers have it installed). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > euh... How about asking that to a Flash developers list ;-)
> > >  
> > > But seriously: I guess it could be done, although I've never 
seen
> > it. I seem to remember that one can use activeX objects in flash
> > (maybe through some add-on or plugin), so you might be able to 
> start
> > the ASV viewer inside Flash...
> > >  
> > > My main question is: Why would you want to...?
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Barend Köbben 
> > > International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth
> > Observation (ITC) 
> > > PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands) 
> > > ph: +31-(0)534874253; fax: +31-(0)534874335 
> > > _ 
> 
>  > > 
> > > 
> > > hehe. i was wondering could i mess with a dynamic xml/svg 
> document in
> > > flash and display it with maybe a few jpegs from the server 
> [filtered
> > > with svg and watermarked with svg] and display it all at same 
> time
> > > within Flash?
> > > 
> > > i would make slight modificiations to the image like filter 
> effects,
> > > resizing with svg, but was wondring then could it be 
dynamically
> > > displayed in flash?
> > > 
> > > if anyone can post a simple .fla demonstrating how it could be 
> done or
> > > a direction to go in. thanx!
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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RE: [svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash....

2005-01-27 Thread Michael Bierman

Steve,
 
There you go again--saying that something can be done just because it has.
That's a pretty weak argument. :^)

Regards,
 
Michael Bierman


  _  

From: stevenjmarks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:29 PM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash



Hello,

I'm not sure about the particular application you have in mind, but 
I would differ with your generalization that SVG as a font end GUI 
to a back-end database "couldn't hack it".

Take a look at www.GalacticPathways.com. This application has a 100% 
SVG front-end with a .NET/C#/SQL Server back-end.  It does all the 
real-time database interaction you're taking about.

Steve 


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "arianhojat2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> well i would like to have an administration user interface, that is
> made dynamically. hence flash. now svg is great as an open standard
> but in terms of a front end for an App, an SVG/Image App, i dont 
think
> it could hack it (i am however using SVG as a powerful 'backend 
typw
> features to store my image info'). Flash MX 2004 however has very
> powerful features in terms of developing front ends for 
applications
> and communicating with databases to get info to display/DOM
> manipulation.. i would prefer to hold this info in SVG and display 
it
> using Flash. Now i could do the same user interface within Java
> language, but i hear flash as a GUI front end kicks Java's ass, in
> terms of performance [probably still use java as a backend 
though]. Do
> you think that this is a situation where just SVG by itself would 
not
> be able to handle things i want? if not show me a friend end SVG 
that
> communicates to a database onLoad an SVGpage, or onclick a button 
to
> call a complex Java code. I realize svg has scripting abilities but
> saometimes u just need more powerful backend (Java)
> and as a front end app, i do not think i have seen too many SVG as 
a
> complete front end App (using Batik in Java is rather slowww for
> graphics stuff flash already does at reasonable speed and 98% of
> computers have it installed). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > euh... How about asking that to a Flash developers list ;-)
> >  
> > But seriously: I guess it could be done, although I've never seen
> it. I seem to remember that one can use activeX objects in flash
> (maybe through some add-on or plugin), so you might be able to 
start
> the ASV viewer inside Flash...
> >  
> > My main question is: Why would you want to...?
> >  
> >  
> > Barend Köbben 
> > International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth
> Observation (ITC) 
> > PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands) 
> > ph: +31-(0)534874253; fax: +31-(0)534874335 
> > _ 

 > > 
> > 
> > hehe. i was wondering could i mess with a dynamic xml/svg 
document in
> > flash and display it with maybe a few jpegs from the server 
[filtered
> > with svg and watermarked with svg] and display it all at same 
time
> > within Flash?
> > 
> > i would make slight modificiations to the image like filter 
effects,
> > resizing with svg, but was wondring then could it be dynamically
> > displayed in flash?
> > 
> > if anyone can post a simple .fla demonstrating how it could be 
done or
> > a direction to go in. thanx!
> > 




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[svg-developers] Re: Why Use Flash....

2005-01-27 Thread stevenjmarks


Hello,

I'm not sure about the particular application you have in mind, but 
I would differ with your generalization that SVG as a font end GUI 
to a back-end database "couldn't hack it".

Take a look at www.GalacticPathways.com. This application has a 100% 
SVG front-end with a .NET/C#/SQL Server back-end.  It does all the 
real-time database interaction you're taking about.

Steve 


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "arianhojat2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> well i would like to have an administration user interface, that is
> made dynamically. hence flash. now svg is great as an open standard
> but in terms of a front end for an App, an SVG/Image App, i dont 
think
> it could hack it (i am however using SVG as a powerful 'backend 
typw
> features to store my image info'). Flash MX 2004 however has very
> powerful features in terms of developing front ends for 
applications
> and communicating with databases to get info to display/DOM
> manipulation.. i would prefer to hold this info in SVG and display 
it
> using Flash. Now i could do the same user interface within Java
> language, but i hear flash as a GUI front end kicks Java's ass, in
> terms of performance [probably still use java as a backend 
though]. Do
> you think that this is a situation where just SVG by itself would 
not
> be able to handle things i want? if not show me a friend end SVG 
that
> communicates to a database onLoad an SVGpage, or onclick a button 
to
> call a complex Java code. I realize svg has scripting abilities but
> saometimes u just need more powerful backend (Java)
> and as a front end app, i do not think i have seen too many SVG as 
a
> complete front end App (using Batik in Java is rather slowww for
> graphics stuff flash already does at reasonable speed and 98% of
> computers have it installed). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > euh... How about asking that to a Flash developers list ;-)
> >  
> > But seriously: I guess it could be done, although I've never seen
> it. I seem to remember that one can use activeX objects in flash
> (maybe through some add-on or plugin), so you might be able to 
start
> the ASV viewer inside Flash...
> >  
> > My main question is: Why would you want to...?
> >  
> >  
> > Barend Köbben 
> > International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth
> Observation (ITC) 
> > PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands) 
> > ph: +31-(0)534874253; fax: +31-(0)534874335 
> > _ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: arianhojat2000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wed 26-Jan-05 17:48
> > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [svg-developers] svg in a FLASH APP?!?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > hehe. i was wondering could i mess with a dynamic xml/svg 
document in
> > flash and display it with maybe a few jpegs from the server 
[filtered
> > with svg and watermarked with svg] and display it all at same 
time
> > within Flash?
> > 
> > i would make slight modificiations to the image like filter 
effects,
> > resizing with svg, but was wondring then could it be dynamically
> > displayed in flash?
> > 
> > if anyone can post a simple .fla demonstrating how it could be 
done or
> > a direction to go in. thanx!
> > 
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[svg-developers] Sample SVG with Java

2005-01-27 Thread rathinavelu anandkumar

Hi

I am new to SVG; are there any samples available to
create SVG using JAVA instead of JavaScript.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [svg-developers] a newbe polyline question

2005-01-27 Thread sidonie

Hi,

Replace polyline.setAttributeNS(null, "points","30,50 20,somevar 10,60");
by polyline.setAttributeNS(null, "points","30,50 20,"+somevar+" 10,60");

that should work


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>
>
> Hi There,
> I am trying to draw a polyline by replacing some numbers with
> variables as in the following example:
> var somevar=50;
> ...
> polyline=svgDocument.createElementNS(svgns,"polyline");
> polyline.setAttributeNS(null, "points","30,50 20,somevar 10,60");
> ...
> It doesn`t work that way (works only while replacing somevar with a
> number).
> Any idea whats wrong.
> TIA
> Udi
>
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Whiteboard and SVG Game

2005-01-27 Thread m_r_d98


I tested this app in Windows XP using IE6.  The error you are seeing 
is probably that you cannot reach the server for some reason, not 
sure why, could be a network configuration setting.

Thanks for taking a look though, if anyone finds any of this code 
useful feel free to use it.

Mark.

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> 
> The astraunaut game works but needs some tweaking...
> 
> Ronan
> >
> > Whiteboard 1 crashed my browser. Kept getting the "Unable to fetch
> > data from server" error.
> >
> > Whiteboard 2 -same thing.
> >
> > IE 6, ASV 3.02, on a pc.
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> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>   check out www.markdawson.org/software,  I have created an SVG
> >> whiteboard application and an SVG game called "Catch the 
astronaut"
> >> using some generic game framework I created.
> >>
> >>   Let me know what you all think.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Mark.
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Whiteboard and SVG Game

2005-01-27 Thread m_r_d98


Hi Sara,
  I appologise for that, I had an interval that kept asking for data 
every 1 second.  I modified the code to cancel the interval if data 
cannot be fetched from the server.

  
Mark.

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> 
> Whiteboard 1 crashed my browser. Kept getting the "Unable to fetch 
> data from server" error.
> 
> Whiteboard 2 -same thing.
> 
> IE 6, ASV 3.02, on a pc.
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "m_r_d98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> > 
> > Hi all,
> >   check out www.markdawson.org/software,  I have created an SVG 
> > whiteboard application and an SVG game called "Catch the 
astronaut" 
> > using some generic game framework I created.
> > 
> >   Let me know what you all think.
> > 
> > Thanks
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[svg-developers] a newbe polyline question

2005-01-27 Thread meidanudi


Hi There,
I am trying to draw a polyline by replacing some numbers with 
variables as in the following example:
 var somevar=50;
 ...
 polyline=svgDocument.createElementNS(svgns,"polyline");
 polyline.setAttributeNS(null, "points","30,50 20,somevar 10,60");
 ...
 It doesn`t work that way (works only while replacing somevar with a
 number).
 Any idea whats wrong.
 TIA
 Udi
 





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[svg-developers] Re: SVG plugin disapeared after acrobat upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Paton J. Lewis


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Bullotta"  wrote:
> Pat:
> 
> What version is included in Acrobat Reader 7.X? 

None. Adobe SVG Viewer only shipped with Acrobat Reader 5. Adobe SVG 
Viewer has not shipped with any other major version of Acrobat Reader, 
including 6 and 7.

Pat

> I had quite a few problems
> after installing 7.X, and had to go back and manually "over-install" 
3.0.2
> to get things working properly again...
> 
> Any insights?
> 
> Rick Bullotta
> CTO
> Lighthammer Software (http://www.lighthammer.com)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paton J. Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG plugin disapeared after acrobat 
upgrade
> 
> 
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "jeffnoll2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > After just rolling out an application that uses SVG images I'm 
> > running into a problem with random people not having the plugin 
for 
> > IE available. As far as I can tell it is somehow related with CSC 
> > (they manage all our desktops) upgrading everyone from Acrobat 
> Reader 
> > 5.0 to 6, or patching 6 up to 6.0.2
> > 
> > Am I correct in the assumption that everyone who has Acrobat 
Reader 
> 5 
> > and above should have this plugin available for IE? I've stumbled 
> > across a few posts saying it is part of the Reader, Illustrator, 
or 
> > even Photoshop install.
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Unfortunately that's not quite correct. Adobe SVG Viewer 2.0 shipped 
> with Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 5.x, but no version of Adobe SVG 
> Viewer ships with Acrobat or Adobe Reader 6 or higher.
> 
> > 
> > Of course the real problem is that CSC has the desktops so shut 
down 
> > that 99% of the people can't install the plugin on their own. When 
> > they try to install the SVGView.exe (I've tried V2, v3, and V6) 
they 
> > get a 'Must be Adminstrator to install' blurb.
> 
> There was a bug in the Adobe SVG Viewer Windows installer which 
> prevented installation on Windows XP systems even when the user had 
> administrator privileges. In this case the installer incorrectly 
> identified the user as not being an administrator. This bug existed 
in 
> Adobe SVG Viewer installers 1.0 through 3.01, and 6.0 PR1.
> 
> This bug was fixed in the Adobe SVG Viewer 3.02 installer, which is 
> available here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/
> 
> > 
> > Can anyone confirm that it should be part of the Acrobat Reader 
> > install? If so perhaps I can raise a stink and get them to fix it. 
> 
> We would be happy to receive feedback on how we can make the Adobe 
> Reader more useful to you. To make sure your request goes to the 
right 
> place, please fill out this on-line form: http://www.adobe.com/
> support/feature.html
> 
> > Or, is there a trick I can do to get the plugin installed on my 
own? 
> > Even if it's something like taking my install and zipping it 
> together 
> > and making my own installer.
> 
> Unfortunately the EULA for Adobe SVG Viewer does not permit this. If 
> the latest installer of Adobe SVG Viewer (version 3.02) does not 
> address your problem, then please contact customer support and we 
may 
> be able to provide further assistance.
> 
> http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/svgkb.htm
> 
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RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG plugin disapeared after acrobat upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Rick Bullotta

Pat:

What version is included in Acrobat Reader 7.X?  I had quite a few problems
after installing 7.X, and had to go back and manually "over-install" 3.0.2
to get things working properly again...

Any insights?

Rick Bullotta
CTO
Lighthammer Software (http://www.lighthammer.com)

-Original Message-
From: Paton J. Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG plugin disapeared after acrobat upgrade



--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "jeffnoll2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> After just rolling out an application that uses SVG images I'm 
> running into a problem with random people not having the plugin for 
> IE available. As far as I can tell it is somehow related with CSC 
> (they manage all our desktops) upgrading everyone from Acrobat 
Reader 
> 5.0 to 6, or patching 6 up to 6.0.2
> 
> Am I correct in the assumption that everyone who has Acrobat Reader 
5 
> and above should have this plugin available for IE? I've stumbled 
> across a few posts saying it is part of the Reader, Illustrator, or 
> even Photoshop install.

Jeff,

Unfortunately that's not quite correct. Adobe SVG Viewer 2.0 shipped 
with Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 5.x, but no version of Adobe SVG 
Viewer ships with Acrobat or Adobe Reader 6 or higher.

> 
> Of course the real problem is that CSC has the desktops so shut down 
> that 99% of the people can't install the plugin on their own. When 
> they try to install the SVGView.exe (I've tried V2, v3, and V6) they 
> get a 'Must be Adminstrator to install' blurb.

There was a bug in the Adobe SVG Viewer Windows installer which 
prevented installation on Windows XP systems even when the user had 
administrator privileges. In this case the installer incorrectly 
identified the user as not being an administrator. This bug existed in 
Adobe SVG Viewer installers 1.0 through 3.01, and 6.0 PR1.

This bug was fixed in the Adobe SVG Viewer 3.02 installer, which is 
available here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/

> 
> Can anyone confirm that it should be part of the Acrobat Reader 
> install? If so perhaps I can raise a stink and get them to fix it. 

We would be happy to receive feedback on how we can make the Adobe 
Reader more useful to you. To make sure your request goes to the right 
place, please fill out this on-line form: http://www.adobe.com/
support/feature.html

> Or, is there a trick I can do to get the plugin installed on my own? 
> Even if it's something like taking my install and zipping it 
together 
> and making my own installer.

Unfortunately the EULA for Adobe SVG Viewer does not permit this. If 
the latest installer of Adobe SVG Viewer (version 3.02) does not 
address your problem, then please contact customer support and we may 
be able to provide further assistance.

http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/svgkb.htm

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[svg-developers] Re: SVG plugin disapeared after acrobat upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Paton J. Lewis


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "jeffnoll2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> After just rolling out an application that uses SVG images I'm 
> running into a problem with random people not having the plugin for 
> IE available. As far as I can tell it is somehow related with CSC 
> (they manage all our desktops) upgrading everyone from Acrobat 
Reader 
> 5.0 to 6, or patching 6 up to 6.0.2
> 
> Am I correct in the assumption that everyone who has Acrobat Reader 
5 
> and above should have this plugin available for IE? I've stumbled 
> across a few posts saying it is part of the Reader, Illustrator, or 
> even Photoshop install.

Jeff,

Unfortunately that's not quite correct. Adobe SVG Viewer 2.0 shipped 
with Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 5.x, but no version of Adobe SVG 
Viewer ships with Acrobat or Adobe Reader 6 or higher.

> 
> Of course the real problem is that CSC has the desktops so shut down 
> that 99% of the people can't install the plugin on their own. When 
> they try to install the SVGView.exe (I've tried V2, v3, and V6) they 
> get a 'Must be Adminstrator to install' blurb.

There was a bug in the Adobe SVG Viewer Windows installer which 
prevented installation on Windows XP systems even when the user had 
administrator privileges. In this case the installer incorrectly 
identified the user as not being an administrator. This bug existed in 
Adobe SVG Viewer installers 1.0 through 3.01, and 6.0 PR1.

This bug was fixed in the Adobe SVG Viewer 3.02 installer, which is 
available here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/

> 
> Can anyone confirm that it should be part of the Acrobat Reader 
> install? If so perhaps I can raise a stink and get them to fix it. 

We would be happy to receive feedback on how we can make the Adobe 
Reader more useful to you. To make sure your request goes to the right 
place, please fill out this on-line form: http://www.adobe.com/
support/feature.html

> Or, is there a trick I can do to get the plugin installed on my own? 
> Even if it's something like taking my install and zipping it 
together 
> and making my own installer.

Unfortunately the EULA for Adobe SVG Viewer does not permit this. If 
the latest installer of Adobe SVG Viewer (version 3.02) does not 
address your problem, then please contact customer support and we may 
be able to provide further assistance.

http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/svgkb.htm

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Whiteboard and SVG Game

2005-01-27 Thread ronan

The whiteboards Work for me on ASV3.0/Win XP.

The astraunaut game works but needs some tweaking...

Ronan
>
> Whiteboard 1 crashed my browser. Kept getting the "Unable to fetch
> data from server" error.
>
> Whiteboard 2 -same thing.
>
> IE 6, ASV 3.02, on a pc.
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "m_r_d98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>   check out www.markdawson.org/software,  I have created an SVG
>> whiteboard application and an SVG game called "Catch the astronaut"
>> using some generic game framework I created.
>>
>>   Let me know what you all think.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mark.
>
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RE: [svg-developers] Medical images

2005-01-27 Thread Randy George

Hi Shaman,

I think you would have to convert your Dicom images to something
useable in svg such as jpg or png in order to use medical imagery inside
svg. I experimented with this awhile back converting DICOM to jpg film
strips which could then be moved through a masked view to simulate DICOM
animation. If you need to extend a viewer for medical imagery you should
probably consider Batik rather than ASV. 
Medical people don't like lossy jpg very much so svg frameworks for
medical applications would probably require using png. Unfortunately the png
rendering is somewhat slower than jpg and can slow down client side
interactions that depend on javascript events in ASV. I don't know if the
same is true of Batik.

Randy

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Is it possible to extend Adobe SVG Viewer to embed medical images to
the SVG environment?

Thanks.

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[svg-developers] Re: Medical images

2005-01-27 Thread sara_j_porter


Shaman,
You need to be more specific.  What are the file formats that the 
medical images are stored in?  Are they raster (tif, jpg, png, gif) 
or vector (svg, eps, dxf).  Are they 2d or 3d?

Sara Porter
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> Is it possible to extend Adobe SVG Viewer to embed medical images to
> the SVG environment?
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> Thanks.
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[svg-developers] Medical images

2005-01-27 Thread shaman_svg


Is it possible to extend Adobe SVG Viewer to embed medical images to
the SVG environment?

Thanks.

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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Whiteboard and SVG Game

2005-01-27 Thread sara_j_porter


Whiteboard 1 crashed my browser. Kept getting the "Unable to fetch 
data from server" error.

Whiteboard 2 -same thing.

IE 6, ASV 3.02, on a pc.
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "m_r_d98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>   check out www.markdawson.org/software,  I have created an SVG 
> whiteboard application and an SVG game called "Catch the astronaut" 
> using some generic game framework I created.
> 
>   Let me know what you all think.
> 
> Thanks
> Mark.





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Re: [svg-developers] Tooltips and zooming

2005-01-27 Thread Philippe Lhoste

hmrupp wrote:
> What is the right way to display tooltips over objects? My problem is 
> that my code (and any example of tooltips I have so far looked at) 
> does only work at zoom-level 0. When you zoom in the toolstips are 
> way of. I have found one example which correctly displays tooltips on 
> different zoomlevels. They use the mousemove event.
> http://svglbc.datenverdrahten.de/?code=tooltip&znr=on
> Somehow I cannot transfer this to mouseover.

I believe your code doesn't take in account the current scale.
If you look at http://svg-whiz.com/svg/Tooltip.svg code, you will see a 
function that corrects the coordinates:

function GetTrueCoords(evt)
{
// find the current zoom level and pan setting, and adjust the reported
//mouse position accordingly
var newScale = SVGRoot.currentScale;
var translation = SVGRoot.currentTranslate;
TrueCoords.x = (evt.clientX - translation.x)/newScale;
TrueCoords.y = (evt.clientY - translation.y)/newScale;
};

All the tooltip samples I saw use mouvemove (and mouseout) and not 
moveover, why do you want to do differently?

The advantage of mousemove is that you can listen to this event on the 
whole document, instead of having to repeat the onmouseover event on 
each element. You can then choose to display a tooltip based on various 
criterions, like a regular expression on the id, the fact the element as 
a desc or title element inside, etc.

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[svg-developers] Tooltips and zooming

2005-01-27 Thread hmrupp


Hallo!
What is the right way to display tooltips over objects? My problem is 
that my code (and any example of tooltips I have so far looked at) 
does only work at zoom-level 0. When you zoom in the toolstips are 
way of. I have found one example which correctly displays tooltips on 
different zoomlevels. They use the mousemove event.
http://svglbc.datenverdrahten.de/?code=tooltip&znr=on
Somehow I cannot transfer this to mouseover.


http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; width="100%" height="100%" 
onload="init(evt)">













bla




What's wrong with this?

Thanks,

Hans





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[svg-developers] RE: Various conversion utilities

2005-01-27 Thread Jeroen Dekker

Hi there zedkineece,

My company makes commercial batch conversion tools that can generate "editable" 
SVG (assuming vector-based input) from PDF, WMF, EPS and PostScript input. It's 
available in desktop, server and developer versions on Windows, Linux and UNIX 
platforms. Vector graphics, raster images and text strings are all converted 
and preserved as such in the SVG output.

Depending on the nature of your files, we might have a custom solution for your 
CGM files as well.

Please contact me off-list with some sample files if interested. More 
information about our software, company and customers is available at the URL 
below. Our graphics conversion tools have been around since 1995. 

Kind regards,


Jeroen Dekker
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Message: 8 
   Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:25:40 -
   From: "zedkineece" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Various conversion utilities


We have a customer that has a mixture of file formats they want 
converted to SVG. PDF, DXF, CGM and WMF make up most of the source 
images. Most of the images do not have a "source", and are basically 
the only copy of the image they have. Most are CGM and PDF. Does any 
one of you know of any utilities that can convert 1000's of images? 
We need to convert to real SVG, not embed. One of the biggest 
requirements is "editable" SVG as a result. So embedding a converted 
version of the image is not an option.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.


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[svg-developers] Re: how to add text in svg map

2005-01-27 Thread Andreas Neumann


Hi,

SVG's text features are very powerful. You can use any text formatting that you 
know from 
DTP (except flow text, but thats not a problem for map labels; flow text is 
however part of 
the coming SVG 1.2).

The trickier problem is how to avoid overlapping text labels.

Whether you do it in SVG or XSL? Well, the final output is in SVG of course, so 
you have to 
do it in SVG, thats clear. Whether you use XSLT to generate the text labels (I 
doubt that 
XSLT is powerful enough to provide an algorithm for avoiding text label 
overlapping) or 
ECMAscript or any other serverside scripting, does not really matter.

Andreas 

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> i have a trouble in adding text in my svg map. my map is converted from GML 
> file, using 
XSL. can we add text on a feature of map. we do it in svg or xsl?
> could you help??
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