Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG in SVG - external CSS styling problem - Roberts response
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 09:28:20PM -, jamesd wrote: . . . > SVG-as-an-image shouldn't be able to load external resources (which might > come from other domains) > > Emphasis on might. What about local access? It too must be denied? Seems to > be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I just checked, there is not a > terrorist hiding under every bed. . . . Me, too; that is, I'd like to be a little more precise about what we're saying in this thread. There's no standard, correct, that invalidates SVG-within-SVG? I welcome the report that the Firefoxers determined this is a security risk, and blocked it, but I also agree that the local-resource question deserves more investi- gation. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG in SVG - external CSS styling problem
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 06:51:29AM -, Robert Longson wrote: . . . > For security reasons images must be self-contained. . . . Where is this documented? I think there's more to the story. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG still being developed?
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:52:59AM -0400, David Dailey wrote: . . . > others. A lot of developers are still using instead of SVG in > contexts where SVG would be more appropriate (like when a UI is needed). > > By way of half-hearted speculation, I think that misplaced zeal has a lot to > do with the fact that a) they are programmers and declarative approaches > don't provide quite the same level of job-security and b) Apple's halo (and > to some extent Google's as well) has made appeal to many of the > hormone-driven youngsters who are slurping their Red Bull and programming at > 02:30 am. Web GL provides, perhaps, some of the same testosterone rush. We > older folks have gotten lazier and prefer fewer keystrokes. Maybe it is fear > of arthritis. . . . "SVG: Visualization for Oldsters"? - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG still being developed?
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:46:30PM -, cremnosedum wrote: . . . > A while back I mentioned SVG to a friend who knows a lot about computers. He > said it was no longer beind developed, rather dismisively, and didn't seem > willing to elaborate on what he meant by that. I was doubtful about that as > it seemed that all the major browsers were improving their SVG support. > > In the last couple of months, there have been a number of browser updates > with little or no improvement to SVG that I've been able to detect. I use > Windows XP so I don't know about IE 9. > > Have the browser developers basically given up on SVG or are they waiting for > something or is this a statistical blip or what? . . . This is a stupid conversation. I don't mean that *you*, cremnosedum, are in any way defective; I'm trying to express that there's something dysfunctional about our culture that we'd ever get to the point that the browser maintainers other than cheerfully and with utter clarity make it quite public how and how much they're improving their offerings. It *is* real, though: browsers are released, and utterly miss out on the opportunity to advertise all their benefits. I expect a few representatives of major browsers will follow up shortly with explicit lists of recent advances. If not, others of us will doubtless pull them together. cremnosedum, SVG *is* advancing. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG developer wanted to make Online Graphic edit app for printing website
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:42:41PM -, philsvg wrote: . . . > I'm agree with you. At this point, we don't know what are robin's needs. He > wants to embed an svg module inside his site and we know nothing about his > site or the functionalities of this module. I asked him details about his > requirements and invited him to look in my site if he can find information > to fulfill his needs, but for now, no news. . . . > And don't forget one thing : svg is an old technology (10 years) which is > emerging right now. We will find more and more people mastering svg and more > and more people wanted for anything with svg, sometime with requirements but > always by people without knowledge of svg (i counted 3 posts last year). So, > a new market is born! > > This technology is simple to acquire but it needs time to learn how to use it > in different contexts. People who are here since many years are expert in > their domains. My playground is printing with svg and generating > php/html/javascript/svg with my own language to fulfill my needs. Am i an > expert? i think i will have always something to learn (and this is why we > love svg and computer sciences) but after 10 years of SVG and 20 years of > computer engineering, i think i am near to be an expert in my domain, enough > to give training about these subjects, that is a part of my job. > > Hurray for SVG and his community! . . . Philippe and I are indeed in agreement. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG developer wanted to make Online Graphic edit app for printing website
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 10:20:24PM +0100, honyk wrote: . . . > > My small company is looking for a SVG developers who can create a custom > SVG editing app to embed into our website. > > Personally I'd prefer selecting prepared templates. I think there is only > small amount of creative creators on the planet willing to create something > from the scratch in your super app. > > There are many web2print solutions on the web already, e.g. > http://www.lead-print.com/de/web-to-print.php - this one you can just rent. > > I rather discourage anyone from relying on single person for such a crucial > project for you future business. You'll become strongly dependent on him > with all cons. You should also think of connection to your backoffice, > planning & accounting systems... . . . I suspect there's a bit of confusion in this conversation. robin might well choose to hire someone to help select, configure and "connect ... to [his] backoffice, planning & accounting ..." exactly the "prepared templates" that we know are available--but impractical for a non-programmer to wrangle. That doesn't make him reliant on a "single person"--certainly no more so than with some of the atrocities that have been committed by "power users" of "standard software". My summary: Jan is right to note certain risks. robin should expect to provide more detail about his requirements. I see nothing inherently incoherent or infeasible in what robin has presented to this point. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Communication with windows app
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:30:53AM -, Narcis wrote: . . . > What i wanted to ask is how can I communicate to my windows app something > from svg document. How can I tell to my windows app "Hello"? . . . Help me understand the question, please: are you saying you're in a Windows environment, and want a built-in method for reaching an arbitrary executable from an SVG document displayed in any browser? That's a tall order--infeasible, in fact, as it stands. Would it be enough to script COM from your SVG document? - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Any Maor Advantages of SVG over CSS3 animation
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:33:26PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: . . . > I use SVG exclusively at the moment for technical drawing, to do what > most people probably do in a clumsy and unfathomable CAD program. . . . > On the Mac at least, an SVG image can be printed direct to a vector > PDF from either Safari or Firefox (not Opera, which creates a raster > PDF) and this can be converted to DXF to take to the machinist, the > laser cutter, the water-jet cutter etc. to produce whatever object is > being drawn. There is also a UNIX program svg2pdf which uses Cairo > to produce a vector PDF but it is not reliable or fully developed. > > I look forward to the day when the profile of SVG is raised to a > point where it is generally recognised as a serious tool for serious > work rather than a toy to produce useless cartoons etc. It ought to > be possible to take an SVG file to a machine shop in the morning and > collect a finished product in the evening. . . . Mr. Delacour, I judge that a modest hope, one that deserves to be fulfilled in the next few years. While I'm in no position to guarantee it, I think it's a reasonable bet. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Any Maor Advantages of SVG over CSS3 animation
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0400, Marty Sullivan wrote: . . . > I don't know what business you're working with but it sounds like their > logic is pretty flawed if they don't see the advantage of my examples. The > main point I would like to get across are the SEO capabilities of SVG, and > businesses are *definitely* interested in SEO. . . . These businesses claim to comprehend *your* logic, and regard *it* as flawed. On the other hand, I strongly, STRONGLY agree that we've only seen the beginning of SEO with SVG. I'm working myself on a couple of articles on the subject. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Any Maor Advantages of SVG over CSS3 animation
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 01:14:12PM -0400, Marty Sullivan wrote: . . . > Imagine a business logo. Instead of being a static image, it could be a > scalable graphic that can be used in any context, mobile or otherwise, and > any text within the logo could be both human and machine readable. If the > SVG logo is used on other pages it can easily be identified as the same logo > elsewhere. > > Also imagine a 2D game. All graphics are scalable. This means a mobile user > and a traditional user will both be able to use the game and it will be > scaled to be viewable on their screen without having to change the program > at all. > > Those are just two quick examples.. . . . Indeed; and what I get from business people is along the lines of, "So? We already have dev teams to tune our graphics and apps for each of the delivery platforms. Now you're telling me *some* of the graphics carry over automatically--big deal!" If it were just for the vector graphics, I doubt that SVG would have attracted *me* enough to make the jump. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Any Maor Advantages of SVG over CSS3 animation
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 08:31:55AM +0100, John Delacour wrote: > At 10:17 +0530 20/10/11, Raks A wrote: > > >...But the more I read about CSS3 animations it seems to be able to do almost > >everything that SVG is capable of And its been hard to convince > >people to use SVG > > To me the whole point of SVG is that it is what it says -- SCALABLE, > VECTOR graphics. The fact that you can perform certain animations on > raster images within SVG is beside the point. > > SVG is uniquely powerful for the purposes for which I have always > presumed it was devised, namely to enable the production of > (infinitely) scalable vector images. The ability to include raster > elements within SVG is a feature hardly worth noting. > > The more I read of other people's uses of SVG, mainly generated by a > variety of "painting" programmes, the more I think SVG will go > nowhere until power users begin to harness its real power as a vector > drafting tool. . . . Please say a few words more, Mr. Delacour. I mildly agree with you--but I suspect we might see different pictures when we use the same words. What, for you, is the significance among end-users of scalable images? What's the "business case" you see for vector, as opposed to raster, graphics? For me, SVG has already gone more-than-nowhere. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG - marketing efforts
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:21:09PM -0700, Doc wrote: . . . > Often when someone tells me they want "something like this", > they in the same breath give the wrong technology attribution > for the effect. . . . Oh, yes. I have nothing to contribute to marketing. That's not where *my* comparative advantage lies. I'll just keep trying to pass on accurate information about SVG's wonderful capabilities. http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.text.xml/SVG.html - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] national flags for use in db? perhaps ip-to-country.csv
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 09:37:38PM +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: . . . > has anyone already created, or is anyone interested to help create a > tight** svgz file of national flags searchable by id of country > eg with ip-to-country.csv . . . I like the idea. Phaseit might be able to assign an Inkscape adept to such a project over the next month or so. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Open Question: HTML5, How is it?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 01:51:09PM -, dark3251 wrote: . . . > HTML5 is very nice! It is still not 100% but ... . . . Me, too. The one thing I'd emphasize is that HTML5 is no monolith: it's a bag full of goodies. Different parts work (and sometimes fail) differently. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Drawing Tool - Simplified
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 05:31:55PM -0400, Jacob Beard wrote: . . . > Just out of curiosity, in what way would you say that this project is "ahead > of its time", compared to other projects such as Inkscape and svg-edit? > > Jake > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Francis Hemsher wrote: > > > > > > > A few years ago, I built an SVG drawing app that worked in a Cloud, and > > created SVG symbols and symbol libraries. Alas, it was, and remains, abit > > ahead of the times. Therefore, I've simplified it, and am calling it > > SVGDiscovery_Lite. > > > > This creates basic SVG drawings whose source can be copy/pasted into your > > project. The application loads into IE9/10, and creates SVG drawings for the > > HTML5 environment. > > > > See: http://www.svgDiscovery.com/ . . . I'll gratuitously speculate that Francis had in mind that cloud-iness was ... less practical a few years ago. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to get and set from one object to another?
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 01:02:58PM -0400, David Dailey wrote: . . . > What struck me, though, was the different ways that browsers handle the > sizing of my proportionally sized elements inside the s. Webkit > seems to have quite different expectations about how to size an unsized > tag than the other browsers. See > http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/SVGtoSVGinHTML2.htm by way of > comparison. > > > > Three questions: > > > > is the differing treatment of by webkit a webkit bug, an HTML5 bug > or an SVG bug? . . . Indeed; I hope representatives of the different browser and/or specification teams speak up. I certainly don't know. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to get and set from one object to another?
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 01:02:58PM -0400, David Dailey wrote: . . . > What does defaultView do exactly and where is it documented? I don't see it > in SVG1.1 . . . . The Tiny 1.2 specification http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/svgudom.html > leads eventually to http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-20080610/web-browsers.html#default3 >. In casual language, I know it as necessary to reach any SVG scripting (actually, only the *first* scripting block, I think) from the outside; that is, if A.html embeds B.svg, and B.svg has scripts A.html needs to invoke/update/..., A.html must navigate by way of defaultView to reach the space of embedded scripts. I haven't found an authoritative description or explanation; I've just imitated other artisans I've noticed. My rough understanding is that most browsers implement defaultView for SVG, even though, as you observe, 1.1 doesn't appear to include it. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to get and set from one object to another?
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 01:02:58PM -0400, David Dailey wrote: . . . > Do getSVGDocument() and contentDocument do exactly the same thing? It would > appear that they do. I used to avoid the latter since it seemed to only work > in Firefox (which it seems didn't support getSVGDocument() in some contexts > in olden days), but browsers seem happy with either now (though I didn't try > ASV). . . . Me, too. I don't know the answer. Google has code which uses one, and refers to the other in an accompanying comment. On the whole, right now I feel slightly more inclined to use contentDocument--note, though, that I would have given a differ- ent answer yesterday. I have *not* found a rigorous comparison of the two. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: eventing between SVG and its parent
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:45:34PM -0400, David Dailey wrote: . . . > Ultimately, it might be cooler to be able to sprinkle HTML into SVG than the > other way around, since who really needs HTML except on the rare occasion > that it has a form element or a table to borrow? . . . David, please elaborate on this. My first reaction is that HTML solves a *lot* of problems in the world, in the sense that Web applications exist and do valuable work. Are you saying something like, "the front page of Google doesn't *need* HTML; except for the searchbox, we could do everything in SVG"? I hope not--I hope you're making some different point that I'm missing. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to get and set from one object to another?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 05:20:26PM +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: . . . > thought doug had an example but cant find it... > > 2 svg objects in an html5 document > > ie svg button object and svg result object > > how to click the button and get the result? . . . Jonathan and I have been chatting; http://phaseit.net/examples/SVG4/c1.html > seems to be in the vicinity of what he's after. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to get and set from one object to another?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 05:20:26PM +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: . . . > thought doug had an example but cant find it... > > 2 svg objects in an html5 document > > ie svg button object and svg result object > > how to click the button and get the result? . . . Is this really published nowhere? If no one else speaks up, I'll circulate an example over the weekend. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Calling SVG From HTML
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:48:50PM -, random_transform wrote: . . . > Ok, I fiddled some more and got it to work if I put init() in the handler for > a button, so it got called after everything was fully rendered, rather than > in . Still got an error with init() called from JQuery > $(document).ready, so that's probably a dead end. > > So I guess it is indeed a timing issue with Chrome. Just for fun I tried to > call init() (as a function defined in the html) from onload in the svg > file...it doesn't find an init function. . . . This thread has confused me. As I haven't kept up with the exact source in play, I can't be certain; I suspect, though, that your JavaScript coding simply is mistaken. The namespace of an embedded SVG instance is distinct from that of the main document. I've been most successful with constructions that look more like: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Create SVG maps from geonames data
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:39:46PM +0530, Pranav Lal wrote: . . . > Are there any programs that convert data from http://www.geonames.org to SVG > maps? I could write one but I do not want to duplicate work that someone has > done already. . . . Me, too: that is, I'd be a consumer *or* producer (and in fact already have my own only-runs-in-my-environment demon- stration) of such an application/utility/product/... - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] I seek a 3D CAD-like development package
An academic with whom I work needs a development package. While I doubt that SVG is part of the best solution at the moment, it might be, and, in any case, this group is likely to know where I can better look. He wants to do what I call hydraulic modeling: he's (effectively) an economist who needs to visualize graphs of connected reservoirs, along with the flows between them. This is fairly routine stuff: networks or graphs of vertices or nodes, which can be edited visually. Crucial with him is that he wants viewers to be able to perform 3D rotations, so they can see the flows and reservoirs "on the back side" of the model. We'll need a little programmability at the nodes, so we can, for example, have a node flash red if its level hits an alarm condition. This is standard stuff. I've done things like this for over twenty years. I'm asking for help, though, because I'd love to re-use some standard, lightweight, Web package, so we can concentrate on the economic content. Is this ringing any bells with anyone? My guess is that there's a JavaScript-Canvas-based product "out there" already, and I just need to find it. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG internal script
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:02:01AM -0500, ddailey wrote: . . . > Take a look at > http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#joint_use -- there > is an example there (look inside a table named "Making SVG functions callable > from HTML "). > > Basically, suppose the is linked from the via , > or . And suppose the function within a
Re: [svg-developers] Is there a library to draw a graph after specifying coordinates?
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 06:32:53PM +0530, Pranav Lal wrote: . . . > Is there a library that can do the following. > 1. Take a list of x y coordinates and draw the resulting graph complete with > axes, color and relevant titles. > > 2. Save the graph as a SVG file. > > 3. Is accessible via com since I need to invoke its routines from Microsoft > Excel. . . . While I know of none, it certainly would be entertaining to build one. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] how to visualise an arbitrary size matrix with svg?
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 02:15:20PM +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: . . . > 2 Queries around the same idea: > > 1:Is there a simple way to visualise an arbitrary size matrix with svg? > ie say: vary opacity or hue, as a gradient over another arbitrary size > rectangle. > > very basic method: fill in a rectangle for each value in the matrix > > one longwinded method: use radial gradient with > one stop 0.24 and another using a 3x3 kernel to give an average value > ~0.2575** > and a radius calculated from the scale of the matrix (19x19) to the > displayed size of the graphic > > > 2:is there a way to input colour or alpha values for an image > directly? > as suggested here: "To illustrate, suppose you have a input image > which is 5 pixels by 5 pixels, whose color values for one of the color > channels are as follows:" > http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/filters.html#feConvolveMatrixElement > > Jonathan > > **using the value at the second row and second column of the matrix > attached: . . . I know mathematics, and SVG, but I truly don't see the connection you're making here. I suspect a lot of it has to do with "simple way"--no, it's a certainty that pathologic cases will break any such scheme you propose, but, yes, if you have information about the matrix that perhaps is obvious to you, but I don't apprehend, then useful visualizations are feasible. I'd love to understand better what you have in mind. What would it take to make a minimal example of "matrix visualization" for you? - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Request for help with Canvas and Flash
I'd welcome help responding to the comment from 'a1programmer' which appears in http://www.dzone.com/links/how_html5_will_change_your_software_development_a.html >. I am too inexperienced in Flash to follow-up with confidence on my own. More detail: the article in question (note that a1programmer seems to have at least one other, unknown to me, in mind) only touches peripherally on SVG. I write to this mailing list, though, because it's the home of the people *I* know who are best with Canvas and Flash. Also, when I write, "... welcome help ...", what I have in mind is that someone more expert than I writes on his own behalf. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
