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Re: [svg-developers] Using symbols effectively
On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, 12:32:51 AM, mchua1980 wrote: m> Hi all m> I am new to svg so pardon my rather elementary question. I am using m> currently using another program to draw my svg graphics (WebDwarf V2). m> However, whenever I try to use the svg codes genereated by the program m> on my svg file, the graphics will appear too big due differing m> coordinate system. How should I rectify this problem? Same problem m> occurs if I use codes from other svg files with different coordinate m> system. This is why the use element establishes a new viewport. You decide how big you want this particular use of the symbol to be. You can re-use the same symbol multiple times at different sizes. m> Do I manually re-adjust each parameter so that it appears as m> the right size in my svg document. No, that would defeat the point of reusable symbols. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Ligature Support for Arabic in SVG
On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, 4:00:07 PM, jdperkins1 wrote: j> Has anyone cracked the code on how to properly do the glyph j> substitution for arabic characters that should be joined with j> ligatures in SVG ? You just type the unicode characters for arabic and the contextual shaping and ligature formation happens automatically. There is no "code" to crack. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, 6:59:08 PM, Richard wrote: RP> Thanks for the advice. However my hosting company claim that RP> they've corrected the content type for svgz but I still can't see RP> any displayed by Firefox. As well as the content-type, they also need to set the content-encoding. RP> From: T Rowley RP> Your server isn't sending the Content-Encoding header for svgz files: -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Ligature Support for Arabic in SVG
On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, 8:59:20 PM, Jeff wrote: JP> Thanx Chris but we are passing UTF-8 characters to SVG from C# and the JP> ligatures are not showing up. In which implementation? -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 2:29:19 PM, Robin wrote: RB> On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: >> ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For >> example, there is also the Corel SVG Viewer. RB> Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. Well, there is: I still have it, for example, and it still runs and can still be installed. It hasn't been updated in quite some time and is unlikely to ever be updated, I agree. What difference were you trying to draw here? RB> But there's Mozzie, which is a fine option as well: RB>http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozzie RB> But I surely agree that SVG doesn't need either of MS or Adobe to do RB> fine. Ronan made a good point that content developers should examine their dependencies and avoid assumptions (eg sniffing specifically for ASV, or using techniques that are specific to ASV extensions like the right-click menu stuff, or taking advantage of looseness that ASV allows for historical reasons (eg defaulting the SVG namespace). But that is good advice in any case; content that looks specifically for ASV will fail when someone accesses that content with any other of the increasing number of SVG implementations. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF> At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any JF> ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out JF> with new viewing technology which includes SVG support, we will be JF> highly sensitive towards the needs of SVG applications that are JF> installed in the field today. I also want to say that Adobe's primary JF> attitude towards SVG is fully positive: it represents a market JF> opportunity for our products and a technology opportunity when we are JF> looking for an XML representation of 2D graphics. Although the FAQ only JF> mentioned SVG on mobile devices, that was meant solely as a positive JF> acknowledgement of SVG momentum in the mobile space and was *not* meant JF> to imply anything negative about SVG in the desktop space. Thanks for the positive statement, Jon. Now that the merger is finalized I'm sure the SVG developer community will be looking for authoritative information on how Adobe positions itself wrt SVG; clear statements are much better than a lack of information. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 3:21:02 PM, jeff_schiller wrote: j> Here's my take : j> http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2005/12/06/the-svg-roller-coaster/ You note there that Opera "plans to support CDF in a big way, which is fantastic news.". It is, I agree; part of the point of SVG being in XMLis that it can be used as a graphical namespace - something that knows how to draw itself - in compound documents. I put together a quick test, used in a recent CDF WG meeting; it serves a compound document as a bogus unregistered media type, application/foobar+xml with an unknown/unsniffable filename extension of .foobar Thus the only thing that is known about it, per RFC 3023, is that it is in XML. Opera 9 happily renders it, finding both the XHTML and SVG namespaces in there. http://www.w3.org/2005/10/SVGinXHTML.foobar -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Using symbols effectively
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 1:03:03 AM, mchua1980 wrote: m> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> m> wrote: >> >> >> This is why the use element establishes a new viewport. You decide m> how >> big you want this particular use of the symbol to be. You can re- m> use the >> same symbol multiple times at different sizes. m> I can only reposition the symbol using the tag. When I tried m> to set the width and height, the size doesn't change. m> Here is sample symbol created using the Web Dwarf v2. I placed it m> inside the defs tag and group it with an id called "Test" That isn't a symbol . Its a group . It doesn't have a viewBox. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] CDF MIME (was Re: Adobe/Macromedia)
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 8:29:30 PM, jeff_schiller wrote: j> Not to take this topic too far off, but this is both good and bad, j> correct? I believe the whole "identification of CDF documents" is j> being debated within the CDF WG still (guess I need to complete my j> reviews of the latest docs). A server just sending any document to a j> user agent without knowing whether the user agent can handle it is j> prone to lots of failure scenarios - so how does the user agent j> identify that it can handle both the individual chunks of content j> (XHTML, SVG) and the mixture of the two types? Yes. This sample was presented as a test, not as good practice. A WICD media type is going to be a much more sure way for the compound document by inclusion case. The client can put it in its accept header,for example. j> If you want, we can j> continue this via email (or in my blog post)... -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 8:33:46 PM, Jon wrote: JF> Chris, JF> Adobe does talk about general technology vision (e.g., the Apollo JF> version of combining PDF, Flash and HTML), but unfortunately we still JF> often hold back information about specific product releases. Yes,I understand about the product-specific rule regarding pre-announcements. I was just congratulating you on providing a shaft of light into the gloom and speculation regarding the general technology vision. Please feel free to share more general technology vision, especially regarding XML and compound documents. JF> This is partly because we aren't always sure ourselves about what JF> features will ship with particular product releases until the very JF> end of the product cycle. I have seen many features, indeed some JF> products, yanked late in product cycles. Because of this, my JF> statement from earlier today might end us as the most complete JF> expression of Adobe's product plans with regard to SVG until JF> specific product announcements appear. JF> But one little bit of information I can share is that I have JF> verified what I expected and seems so obvious - Illustrator's plans JF> regarding SVG have not changed as a result of the acquisition. There JF> will be enhancements to its SVG support in its next release (but I JF> can't say which ones) and no SVG features will be dropped. Thanks, that is useful to know. Its what I would expect, but I am sure others might wonder if things would be pulled to focus on a different corporate vision regarding open vs proprietary formats. Statements such as the one you made will therefore be helpful for companies planning their product purchases for the year ahead. JF> Jon JF> -Original Message- JF> From: Chris Lilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JF> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:58 AM JF> To: Jon Ferraiolo JF> Cc: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com JF> Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia JF> On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF>> At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt JF> any JF>> ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out JF>> with new viewing technology which includes SVG support, we will be JF>> highly sensitive towards the needs of SVG applications that are JF>> installed in the field today. I also want to say that Adobe's JF> primary JF>> attitude towards SVG is fully positive: it represents a market JF>> opportunity for our products and a technology opportunity when we JF> are JF>> looking for an XML representation of 2D graphics. Although the FAQ JF> only JF>> mentioned SVG on mobile devices, that was meant solely as a positive JF>> acknowledgement of SVG momentum in the mobile space and was *not* JF> meant JF>> to imply anything negative about SVG in the desktop space. JF> Thanks for the positive statement, Jon. Now that the merger is finalized JF> I'm sure the SVG developer community will be looking for authoritative JF> information on how Adobe positions itself wrt SVG; clear statements are JF> much better than a lack of information. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 10:15:56 PM, Garry wrote: GH> It's good to know that the baby is still in the bath and so is the GH> water... GH> Hopefully at Adobe you'll be considering that, with the integration GH> straight-forward SVG parser, the Flash engine is already capable of GH> dispalying dynamic 2d graphics. Like Flash-Lite did in version 1.1, where to get any traction in the market at all it had to add at least optional support for SVGT. Its not clear that the Flash underlying engine is capable enough to do SVG Full, but it could do a subset. GH> Real business applications on the web are just maturing and GH> vectorised graphics will be a key aspect. A trustable 'reader' from GH> Adobe is essential. I agree they are a key aspect, and that there is a need for a good reader. Which companies end up providing that is not something that can be predicted at this stage. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
VG valid enough to give FF a fighting chance to render it, and JW> the fact that we were going to release our SVG implementation, I JW> hoped that awareness was high enough for people to make their own JW> decisions to test their content or not. I have been discouraging people from making ASV-specific content for years. Some people just don't get it, presumably the same people that make Win IE x.y-specific content. JW> I'm keen to hear feedback (on or off list) from all sides to get a JW> better idea of how much demand exists for different features. JW> Although, as I said, that won't change what's in FF 1.5 now, it JW> gives us a focus for the next release. I mentioned that animation and fonts are the two big issues that stick out for me. However, having seen other static-only implementations add scripting and then attempt to add declarative animation and then decide a big rewrite is needed to get decent animation performance, I can understand if developer builds take a while to get animation. JW> We don't hear too much from people regarding this, perhaps because JW> people don't want to use up our time and they assume we know what's JW> missing. Well we do know what's missing, but we could certainly do JW> with a better idea of how much demand there is for specific features JW> to help us focus on what to implement/fix next. Right. >> Those sound like rather nasty problems. Bug reports with testcases >> would be helpful. >> >> Are you serious??? I'm a human, can you please talk in a way other >> than binary logic? I mean... SMIL is missing in the implementation >> and you ask for bug report? What would be the point? You call them >> nasty problems, that is what they are, not bugs. JW> The descriptions you gave sounded like they were most likely the result of JW> bugs to me, not missing functuality. I agree there is no point sending in a bug like "there is no smil animations support". They know, and there already is such a bug. Bug reports on detailed areas are helpful though. For example I sent in some in the beta phase (Deerpark 1 and onwards) on problems with gradients (repeat and reflect on radial gradients,and problems with degenerate gradients). The former turned out to be a GDI bug that does not affect Cairo builds, and the latter they fixed; both were dealt with very promptly. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Using symbols effectively
On Thursday, December 8, 2005, 3:42:46 PM, mchua1980 wrote: m> Does it mean to resize it to my desired size, I need to apply m> transformation like scaling? Can I set it through the height and m> width? No. Set it through a viewBox and use a symbol element not a g element for symbols. Then you will have scalable symbols. m> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> m> wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 1:03:03 AM, mchua1980 wrote: >> >> m> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lilley m> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> m> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is why the use element establishes a new viewport. You m> decide >> m> how >> >> big you want this particular use of the symbol to be. You can m> re- >> m> use the >> >> same symbol multiple times at different sizes. >> >> m> I can only reposition the symbol using the tag. When I m> tried >> m> to set the width and height, the size doesn't change. >> >> m> Here is sample symbol created using the Web Dwarf v2. I m> placed it >> m> inside the defs tag and group it with an id called "Test" >> >> That isn't a symbol . Its a group . It doesn't have a >> viewBox. >> >> >> -- >> Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Chair, W3C SVG Working Group >> W3C Graphics Activity Lead >> Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG >> m> - m> To unsubscribe send a message to: m> [EMAIL PROTECTED] m> -or- m> visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" m> m> Yahoo! Groups Links m> -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] accessing anchors inside a svg
On Friday, December 9, 2005, 5:37:27 PM, Doug wrote: DS> Problem 1: Fragment identifiers (myurl.ext#fragmentID) in IE+ASV get DS> lost when you are working locally. So, you can link to a Web-based DS> resource, but not a local one. This problem doesn't exist in DS> Firefox. Its a limitation of the Win IE plugin architecture - fragment identifiers are stripped from the URI before sending to the server (this is correct) and the fetched local copy of the content is given the stripped, fragment-less URI instead of the real one (this is broken). Its been reported since IE4 and has been promised to be fixed several times but never is. I would be very surprised if IE7 fixes it. DS> Problem 2: There is no specified behavior for how fragment IDs are DS> to be treated in SVG. There are many options (it might translate the DS> view so that the element is in the top left of the screen, or the DS> exact center of the screen, or just enough so that it is visible, or DS> it might even change the viewBox so that the element fills up the DS> screen). Right. It just has to make the linked-to object visible. DS> All of these behaviors are specified for the 'SVG view DS> specification' [2], using syntax like DS> MyDrawing.svg#svgView(viewBox(0,200,1000,1000)), but as far as I DS> know, no viewer has yet imlemented that. Its implemented by Batik and by CSIRO. (Of course, it could have been implemented by ASV and Corel too, in theory, but we wouldn't know because of the browser those are hosted in). DS> This is a real pity, because that rocks. Man... No, instead, all DS> viewers I know about simply ignore the fragment-id. Yes, it is. (I would have thought you would be familiar with Batik) DS> Problem 3: This is minor, and isn't the source of your woes, but an ID DS> attribute cannot start with a number; it must start with an alphabetic DS> character. Yes (this is something XML specifies, its not specific to SVG) DS> That being said, you don't need the elaborate XPointer syntax: DS> DS> is equivalent to: DS> At the time we specified that, it seemed that XPointer would become the standard fragment syntax for XML in general. That turned out not to happen. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Why is being in XML better? (was Re: Adobe/Macromedia)
On Friday, December 9, 2005, 7:32:48 PM, Jim wrote: JL> "ayrton_senna_lives_ok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message JL> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Leonard Rosenthol" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 6. It is relaxing for humans to write. So orderly. >> >> 7. It is easy for humans to edit. So free of overheads. JL> The majority of XML on the internet is neither well-formed or valid, I can't JL> see how the easy to author or produce is a good argument, because all JL> evidence is that people do an absolutely lousy job of authoring it. If its not well formed it isn't XML. I agree that the majority of stuff that looks lie XML on the Web is not well formed - its HTML, mostly, or 'save as web' html-like wordprocessor excretions. If its not valid, though, well, valid to what? As Michael Sperberg-McQueen said at his talk at XML 2005 this year, being valid is not like being married. censeo DTDem esse delendam -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG with apologies to Cato Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] CE, CEF files, what are they and how do you extract them?
On Saturday, December 10, 2005, 2:40:24 AM, gee_whiz_bang wrote: g> The files section of this group and another website use CE or CEF files g> for examples without any explanation of what format this is. g> It seems to be a compressed format of some sort, but what in the heck g> is it? I have not heard of this before, and I'm far from a newbie. g> Since it is so non-standard from zip, gzip, stuffit, and so on why g> isn't a link provided for the decompressing utility? Its not a compression format, so a decompressor won't help you. But I can see why yu think it might be compressed data. Its actually expanded data :) is base64 encoded. If you were to decode it you would get a binary font format called CEF, which is a subset of OpenType promoted by Adobe. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Ligature Support for Arabic in SVG
On Saturday, December 10, 2005, 10:10:50 PM, A.M.Shourbagui wrote: AMS> hey mate...it is not done through code it is done AMS> through certain procedures: AMS> 1- The text wrote in arabic must be wrote under the AMS> arabic chracter set coding nametag. That is not necessary (or even desirable) AMS> 2-the operating system used in authoring should at AMS> least support arabic like xp arabic enabled or AMS> mandriva installed with arabic support etc... that depends on how much os support the svg implementation uses AMS> 3- the typeface too is an issue some arabic fonts wont AMS> work .. Yes, some sort of font is needed. Oddly some fonts, that use advanced opentype features, do not seem to work well. I am not sure why. AMS> finally ofcourse a browser with arabic encoding... ?meaning what? AMS> hope i helped..in one way or the other...good luck AMS> kojo.. AMS> --- jdperkins1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Has anyone cracked the code on how to properly do >> the glyph >> substitution for arabic characters that should be >> joined with >> ligatures in SVG ? >> >> A code sample would be awesome if anyone has figured >> out how to do this >> >> thanx >> JP >> >> >> >> AMS> __ AMS> Do You Yahoo!? AMS> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around AMS> http://mail.yahoo.com AMS> - AMS> To unsubscribe send a message to: AMS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMS> -or- AMS> visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" AMS> AMS> Yahoo! Groups Links AMS> -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
On Thursday, December 1, 2005, 10:07:11 PM, Richard wrote: RP> Hi, RP> Firefox doesn't correctly display any of the SVG's on my site, including RP> ones I'm pretty sure have the Kosha namespace declarations etc. Also, as RP> far as I can tell, the server uses the correct mime type for SVGZ. Can RP> anyone please tell me what the problem is? RP> Richard Pearman http://www.pixelpalaces.com/ http://www.pixelpalaces.com/svg+ve.svg missing namespace declarations [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet www.pixelpalaces.com 80 Trying 216.19.71.229... Connected to pixelpalaces.com. Escape character is '^]'. HEAD /zardoz.svgz HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:54:47 GMT Content-Type: image/svg+xml Accept-Ranges: bytes Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:03:23 GMT ETag: "b0286c6779e5c51:c20" Content-Length: 10781 Connection closed by foreign host. The content-type is right but there is a missing Content-Encoding: gzip see http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/conform.html#ConformingSVGServers for options on gzip encoding with IIS, see for example http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/18/18-1.html http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/18/18-2.html http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/18/ http://www.vigos.com/manuals/iis-accelerator/ http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/compress/ -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] RE: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 6:01:52 PM, Geoffrey wrote: GS> Your post on this just sounds like you hope that Adobe will see the need to GS> restart work on SVG, but in some way confirms that they have set it aside at GS> the moment. GS> I certainly didn't find the wishy-washy statements by the Adobe people here GS> to be very encouraging at all. And the long-in-the-tooth 2.5 year-old beta GS> also speaks volumes about where this is headed. GS> My take on it is that the app I have just written will probably have to be GS> modified later to use XAML or whatever actually becomes the standard. Please differentiate between standards and implementations. SVG is the standard. GS> It GS> looks like there are a lot of contenders for this sort of functionality, and GS> SVG is only one of them. Yes. But the other contenders seem to be non-open, single-vendor ones. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SMIL questions
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 3:34:44 PM, Peter wrote: PT> Are there currently SVG implementations other than PT> Adobe that support SMIL? The SVG implementations from - Bitflash - CSIRO - Ikivo - Intesis - Openwave - Opera - KDDI - Nokia Research - Sun - TinyLine support SMIL animation. There may be others (does WebKit support it?). LXViewer had partial support when last tested not sure of current status. PT> Does anyone want to share their opinion about whether PT> SVG animations should be coded using Javascript or PT> SMIL? Over the past 6 months, I have waffled from PT> Javascript to SMIL, and am leaning back toward PT> Javascript (because of lack of support for SMIL). -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SMIL questions
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 4:26:23 PM, david wrote: dd> At 09:34 AM 12/16/2005, Peter wrote: >>Does anyone want to share their opinion about whether >>SVG animations should be coded using Javascript or >>SMIL? Over the past 6 months, I have waffled from >>Javascript to SMIL, and am leaning back toward >>Javascript (because of lack of support for SMIL). dd> I've had similar sentiments. The Opera SMIL implementation seems dd> fine, but I really need the scripting. Opera 9 has both. dd> SMIL is so darn friendly and dd> easy that I underwent a couple of months of seeing just how much dd> JavaScript I could eliminate -- I was pleasantly surprised. I miss it dd> in Firefox. Yes, so do I. dd> SMIL is more machine independent since you don't have to calibrate dd> your setTimeout loops and your delta-x's and delta-y's and so forth dd> for machines with differing horsepower, :) and you don't have to decide on a 'frame rate' either. dd> but I have done some dd> comparisons which suggest (at least in ASV) the JavaScript animations dd> run a bit faster and smoother. See dd> http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/svg_filter_play.htm for dd> some experiments. Interesting. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] firefix svg support
Hi, Does anybody know were to find the *complete* implemented features of firefire 1.5.0.1? Thanks, Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] firefox svg support
Sorry, that was *complete* implemented features of FireFox 1.5.0.1's svg? -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Peto Sent: Montag, 6. März 2006 22:40 To: Svg-Developers Subject: [svg-developers] firefix svg support Hi, Does anybody know were to find the *complete* implemented features of firefire 1.5.0.1? Thanks, Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group "svg-developers <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers> " on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] firefox svg support
I guess I found it: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Peto Sent: Montag, 6. März 2006 22:47 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [svg-developers] firefox svg support Sorry, that was *complete* implemented features of FireFox 1.5.0.1's svg? -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Peto Sent: Montag, 6. März 2006 22:40 To: Svg-Developers Subject: [svg-developers] firefix svg support Hi, Does anybody know were to find the *complete* implemented features of firefire 1.5.0.1? Thanks, Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "svg-developers <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" SPONSORED LINKS Xml <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Xml+format&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Data &c=3&s=35&.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA> format Svg <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Svg&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Data&c=3&s= 35&.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw> Data <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Data&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Data&c=3&s =35&.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA> _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group "svg-developers <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers> " on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] FireFox native SVG, Hats Off!!!
Hi All, I have been recently working on a large project that must run in FireFox native SVG and IE (ASV). And, I just wanted to say that FireFox native SVG has come a long way and is really great to work with. There may be some small quirks, but all-in-all, Hats off!!! To the developers that have made it possible. Keep up the great work! Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Access denied in FireFox
Hi,
I am trying to use another frame from svg in FireFox ans IE 7, but I get
access denied:
var woWin = open("",'woFrame'); //ok, get window
if(woWin) woWin.sendRequest('planeInfo','type=all', true); //get access
denied
parent.frames['woFrame'].sendRequest('planeInfo','type=all', true); //get
access denied
Can I do anything about this?
Thanks,
Chris
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RE: [svg-developers] Access denied in FireFox
Hi,
Nevermind, FireFox's was because the frames were in different domains. IE 7
won't allow either, different or same domain frames to talk (at least SVG to
HTML).
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi,
I am trying to use another frame from svg in FireFox ans IE 7, but I get
access denied:
var woWin = open("",'woFrame'); //ok, get window
if(woWin) woWin.sendRequest('planeInfo','type=all', true); //get access
denied
parent.frames['woFrame'].sendRequest('planeInfo','type=all', true); //get
access denied
Can I do anything about this?
Thanks,
Chris
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG dying?
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:28:01 -0600, Bill Thoen wrote: > If somebody sets up an alternative SVG discussion > forum using something like GNU mailman and doesn't require a lot of > marketing demograpohics information, I'd be there like a shot and would > never go back to a Yahoo forum again. Perhaps you already know this, but you can also read and post to this group via a mirrored Gmane newsgroup, which also has an web archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.svg.devel Chris - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] About REX, AJAX and SVG
On Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 10:13:03 PM, Jean-Claude wrote: JCM> Hello JCM> I've published a note about using REX, AJAX and SVG on: JCM> http://svgmpeg4.blogspot.com/2006/06/taste-of-rex-ajax-and-svg.html JCM> Here is the abstract: JCM> The purpose of this note is to present my implementation of REX to JCM> dynamically modify SVG documents with the help of XMLHttpRequest, JCM> popularized by AJAX. Interesting. I will have a look at it tomorrow. One comment: JCM> REX is a simple XML grammar - proposed by the W3C in February 2006 JCM> - which allows us to describe modifications that we want to bring JCM> to an XML document: insertion, replacement or deletion of a JCM> sub-document, and attribute's change. Well, no. I'm sure there are system like that, with a small number of op-codes like insert, delete, replace etc. REX is not one of them. its a much more general system to transfer DOM 3 Events originating in one tree, usually but not always to a copy of that tree stored somewhere else. If the events are mutation events then the effect of insertion and deletion (or more generally, holding the second tree in synchronization with the first) can be obtained. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] About REX, AJAX and SVG
On Thursday, July 13, 2006, 12:08:15 AM, Chris wrote: CL> On Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 10:13:03 PM, Jean-Claude wrote: JCM>> Hello JCM>> I've published a note about using REX, AJAX and SVG on: JCM>> http://svgmpeg4.blogspot.com/2006/06/taste-of-rex-ajax-and-svg.html JCM>> Here is the abstract: JCM>> The purpose of this note is to present my implementation of REX to JCM>> dynamically modify SVG documents with the help of XMLHttpRequest, JCM>> popularized by AJAX. CL> Interesting. I will have a look at it tomorrow. Well okay, i had a look at it today. CL> One comment: JCM>> REX is a simple XML grammar - proposed by the W3C in February 2006 JCM>> - which allows us to describe modifications that we want to bring JCM>> to an XML document: insertion, replacement or deletion of a JCM>> sub-document, and attribute's change. CL> Well, no. I'm sure there are system like that, with a small number of CL> op-codes like insert, delete, replace etc. REX is not one of them. its a CL> much more general system to transfer DOM 3 Events originating in one CL> tree, usually but not always to a copy of that tree stored somewhere CL> else. CL> If the events are mutation events then the effect of insertion and CL> deletion (or more generally, holding the second tree in synchronization CL> with the first) can be obtained. And a particular reason to note that difference is that the France Telecom patent is specific to a graphical scene representation and to a system with four op-codes (amongst other specificities which make it unlikely that it is essential to REX). I therefore find your implementation interesting but your warning to be premature. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] DXF to SVG conversion
On Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 9:01:57 AM, bblcld wrote: b> I try to evaluate a DXF2SVG converter but I found a problem. I need b> to convert DXF files in SVG format mantaining dimensions. If in DXF b> format I have 100mm diameter circle with 0,0 center coordinates b> position, I would like to have an SVG draw with the same b> situation.This because, after ina 2nd phase of process, I have to b> merge 2 or 3 SVG files and they must preserve reciprocal position b> and dimension. All converters seems to scale every dxf draw to b> fill all the pixmap fixed (ie 800x600).Where is the real poblem? Sounds like the converter is doing a bad job. Which ones did you test? -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
On Wednesday, September 6, 2006, 7:00:38 PM, Doug wrote: DS> That said, we will need to transition to a non-ASV SVG environment, DS> which stresses even more the need to code to standards rather than to a DS> particular implementation. Thats always been true, but hopefully as a result of this announcement we will see less viewer-specific content out there. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Can SVG be used with XML 1.1
On Friday, October 6, 2006, 6:10:19 PM, Christoph wrote: . CAM> Does the SVG standard allow to use it with XML 1.1? Yes. Is well-formed according to the version of XML used (either the XML 1.0 [XML10] or XML 1.1 [XML11]) and conforms to the corresponding Namespaces in XML specification (Namespaces in XML 1.0 [XML-NS10] or Namespaces in XML 1.1 [XML-NS11]). http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/conform.html#ConformingSVGContent CAM> i.e. sth. like this: CAM> CAM> "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd";> CAM> CAM> ... CAM> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";> ... -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Adobe extends ASV customer support and download availability
On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:47:18 AM, Paton wrote: PJL> In response to customer feedback, Adobe has extended customer support PJL> and download availability for Adobe SVG Viewer. Customer support for PJL> Adobe SVG Viewer will now cease on January 1, 2008; downloads of PJL> Adobe SVG Viewer will cease on January 1, 2009. PJL> For details, please see http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html Thanks for that, Paton. I think those are much more realistic timescales for those with heavy investments in ASV-specific solutions to transition to an alternative SVG solution. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Renesis Player 0.2 Release
On Monday, October 9, 2006, 4:00:06 PM, Jeff wrote: JS> 4) http://www.codedread.com/svgtest.svg also says that no SVG 1.0 or JS> 1.1 feature strings are implemented. Are you planning to support SVG JS> 1.1 at all? I think that more likely means that the 'feature strings' feature is not implemented. JS> Seems like all other plugins and native implementations JS> in the desktop browser space are currently targetting SVG 1.1 and JS> none yet support SVG 1.2. I am aware of four SVGT 1.2 implementations, three of them publicly announced, and (a different) three of them also running on the desktop as well as mobile devices. JS> If you support some of SVG 1.1 then it JS> will really ease your adoption into the IE plugin space. (I JS> certainly would like to experiment with SVG 1.2 Tiny in the desktop JS> too, but for practical purposes, SVG 1.1 Full is where the browsers JS> are at the moment). I agree that for the desktop, supporting Full 1.1 as well as Tiny 1.2 is needed. JS> 5) The document http://www.codedread.com/svghead.svg doesn't have a JS> gradient fill in the word "CodeDread" and is completely missing my JS> email address text. Please compare to Firefox 1.5/2.0 and Opera 9. Aside - the font family should be 'Copperplate Gothic' not 'Copperplate Gothic Bold', no? -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVGT 1.2 implementations (was: Renesis Player 0.2 Release)
On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 4:35:05 PM, Jeff wrote: JS> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am aware of four SVGT 1.2 implementations, three of them publicly >> announced, and (a different) three of them also running on the >> desktop as well as mobile devices. JS> Chris, thanks for this - can you share the publicly announced ones JS> here? Ikivo Multimedia SVG Player http://www.ikivo.com/02player.html Commercial, oem license. BitFlash SVG Tiny 1.2 player http://www.bitflash.com/prod_playerMain.html Commercial, oem license. Osmo4/GPAC, from ENST http://gpac.sourceforge.net/index.php Open source. Must be compiled, binaries not redistributable for MPEG license reasons 1.1 results available http://gpac.sourceforge.net/feat_n_svg.php All three implementors are represented in the SVG WG. Besides Renesis, already mentioned in the subject of this thread, are there any others? I'm happy to hear on-list for announced ones and privately <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - will be kept w3c team confidential) for others. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVGT 1.2 implementations (was: Renesis Player 0.2 Release)
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 4:33:01 PM, andrewgirow wrote: a> Chris, a> You have mentioned that there are three (four) SVGT 1.2 a> implementations. I would like to ask a couple of questions about it. a> Question 1: a> Have the SVGT 1.2 Test Suite been published? No, it has not been published.The WG is busy constructing it. Sofar the tests come from three sources: a) 1.1 test suite (ne version about tobe published) b) test contributions fromimplementors c) tests we are writing to fill the gaps a> Is it a> ready/appoved/composed? Not yet. a> I've read at the a> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.2/Tiny/ImpReport.html dated a> 2006/08/10 that: a> "The SVG Tiny 1.2 testsuite will be composed of: a> SVG 1.1 tests, converted to SVG Tiny 1.2 a> Test contributions from implementors,converted to the SVG WG test a> format a> Additional tests created as required based on an analysis of test a> coverage of the specification." a> You wrote that "I am aware of four SVGT 1.2 implementations" a> Question 2: a> Does it mean that there is some closed (private) SVGT 1.2 Test Suite a> matrix Not currently a> and W3C group can check any given SVG engine against it and a> annonce the engine as "SVGT 1.2 implementation"? I said there were implementations. I didn't state they were tested as 100% compliant. Several of those implementations have been tested against individual 1.2 tests during WG discussions. a> Iam just curious how it works... Once we have an initial 1.2 testsuite, we will release those tests that have been reviewed (ie,thatwe think are reasonable tests witha reasonable test description and a correct reference image). -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: AT: Capture animateTransform in real time
On Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 8:43:02 AM, Jonathan wrote: JC> Capture animateTransform in real time JC> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? JC> func=detail&aid=1584206&group_id=93438&atid=604306 JC> I've filed this bug at Inkscape, however if anybody can provide a web JC> based or other method, I'd be grateful ~:" JC> I'd like to be able to draw, and whilst JC> capturing the path, also capture the speed and JC> acceleration. Have a look at InkML http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-InkML-20061023/ which does exactly that. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Using SVG as background
On Monday, October 30, 2006, 8:19:59 AM, Charles wrote: CM> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:22:58 +1000, mikh2161 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So, you expect this to be a feature among web browsers at some time >> in the future? CM> Definitely. It is one of the most requested improvements in SVG support. Naturally, since its a great way to get rounded corners, fades, etc with a very small download. >> How much processor slow-down will this cause when dozens of copies of >> an image are tiled across a web page's background? CM> I'll leave that to Erik or another of the SVG developer team to answer, CM> but I suspect very little actually. The background rendering time will consist of the svg rendering time, s, plus the per-image copying or blitting time r, which is proportional to width times height of the image, iw ih,multiplied by the number of horizontal and vertical copies ch cv. s + (r * iw * ih * ch * cv) if you have a 10x10 svg image and your window is 1000 square, then you will have 100 copies horizontally and vertically s + (r * 10 * 10 * 100 * 100) s + 1,000,000r If you have a 500x500 svg image you will have two copies horizontally and vertically s + (r * 500 * 500 * 2 * 2) s + 1,000,000r You may well get some slow down with animated backgrounds, but then you can currently go crazy with animated GIF backgrounds, too. >> What does your >> development build of Opera do with regards to animations or mouse- >> interactivity when an image is used as a background? Hopefully nothing, per: Scalable Child Element, used as a background image, will not provide support for scripting and interaction, such as zooming, panning, linking and user interaction events. http://www.w3.org/2004/CDF/specs/CDR/wp-1/wicd.html#scalable-background-image CM> We turn them off. Background images are just that. Good. CM> There may be a case for CM> non-interactive animated backgrounds (although I shudder to think of what CM> people will mostly do with them), but interactivity isn't part of the CM> background, IMO... Right. An SVG used as a background image will not receive user interface events. if you need an interactive image behind HTML text, make it a foreground image and use CSS positioning. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Chris Lilley
On Friday, November 3, 2006, 11:33:12 PM, David wrote: DN> Hello Chris, DN> How about an update on working group. Been awfully quiet. We are working on a 1.2T test suite. Also working once more on SVG Print which was discussed at the W3C print symposium in Heidelberg last month. Also at that event was the XSL.0 requirements workshop- most SL renderers can also handle SVG,so there was quite a bit of discussion on how to integrate more closely there. We released a first public working draft of Media Access Events last month http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-MediaAccessEvents-20061013/ DN> Remember seeing something about another WG working on user interface DN> standards ( or was it web applications?), how is that going. WebAPI is indeed alive and well http://www.w3.org/2006/webapi/ -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG 1.1 test suite updated
Hello svg-developers, The SVG Working Group is pleased to announce the release of an updated SVG 1.1 Test Suite. This release has more tests - 275 test slides, most with multiple subtests - and a particular focus on improving the number of SVG Tiny 1.1 tests. Also new in this release is an HTML 'object' harness, as well as the legacy 'embed' harness. http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20061213/ Comments, corrections, and implementation reports are welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG 1.1 test suite updated -- Assumption 5 of 5
On Friday, December 15, 2006, 4:34:27 AM, ddailey wrote: d> Assumption 5 of 5: d> 5. The copyright notice (that appears on at least some of these) d> is just to make sure that the stuff doesn't mutate over time. A d> creative commons license would have accomplished much the same d> purpose. That is, no one is likely to challenge divergent national d> treatments of fair use in international courts over use of such d> material in, for example, a classroom setting? I see Antoine covered some of these already so let me address this one. Yes, the intention is to prevent anyone changing the tests and then claiming that the changed test is still the W3C SVG test suite. (As an example, a vendor who altered the tests so that they passed more of them. ) Or, indeed, removing the W3C copyright notice and selling on the modified test suite as their own. (Thats also why each test slide includes the cvs revision number, so we can check the test and the reference PMNG are from the exact same version of the test). Also, the tests themselves (the svg files) and the test harnesses (html or svg files used to navigate between tests, display information about the test, etc) have different licenses. The tests can't be changed. the harnesses can be hacked around as you wish or discarded and a different harness used. For example, an implementor might like a harness that displays their current rendering from todays daily build, the reference PNG, and a third PNG which is their rendering from the last released build (to check for regressions in their code). Or, someone might make a script that loads the tests one by one. Or compares the result bit-by-bit with the last released rendering on the same platform with the same fonts. If someone wants to look at the source of the tests (well, we would expect they would do that) or use the code as an example and modify it to do something similar that they want to do - that's fine, as long as the modified code does not claim to be a W3C SVG test suite test. Note in passing that the way some of the tests are written is non-obvious - they are designed to test a particular feature and in some cases are deliberately fragile, giving multiple opportunities to get the rendering wrong. Its the opposite of 'graceful degradation'. So they are not necessarily good real-world examples. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] DOCTYPE or no DOCTYPE
On Thursday, January 18, 2007, 1:33:33 PM, Tonny wrote: TK> Hi, TK> Recently I came across with this article TK> http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#doctype-declaration which says that TK> authoring tools should not generate DOCTYPE for the SVG file. That article is broadly correct, with the exception of: Unfortunately the SVG DTDs are a source of so many issues that the SVG WG has decided not to write one for the upcoming SVG 1.2 standard. The problems with DTDs are entirely unrelated to whether they are being used to describe SVG or some other grammar. There is in general a transition away from DTDs and towards W3C XML Schema (for data-like, especially database-like XML) and RelaxNG (for document-like XML) which gives greater expressive power for constraints, better typing, can do namespaces without hacks or magic prefixes, and so on. So its certainly true that for SVG 1.2 and on, startng with SVG Tiny 1.2, there is a RelaxNG schema and there is no DTD. Which means a DOCTYPE is only needed if you want to declare your own entities in the document. For SVG 1.1, the important thing is to have namespace declarations in the document; and to have a version number and baseProfile. TK> Is this the correct ways ? So as authoring tools, do we need to TK> still to generate DOCTYPE declaration or not generate anymore ? Its optional. Its not incorrect, and its not required. TK> Any comment on this matter ? what is the WG comment regarding this ? -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ?
Hi, Unfortunetly, all these implementations that you refer to are too slow. I hope these implementations will work on performance soon or are already. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann Sent: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 10:16 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ? Hi, have you tried in another SVG user agent? Opera, Firefox, Batik? You have to be aware that the Adobe SVG viewer 3 is old code (not seriously updated since 2001 or 2002, except for security reasons) and it won't be updated in the future. So the Adobe SVG viewer is a phase-out model. If I were you I would look into the alternatives like Opera, Firefox, Safari and Batik. There is even the possibility to run Batik as an applet inside Internet Explorer, see http://xmlgraphics. <http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/demo.html> apache.org/batik/demo.html Andreas --- In svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "lazers378" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have developed an application in svg in which I am using javascript > to manipulate the svg. The javascript is running in internet explorer > 6.0 scripting engine. After running for about 12+ hours the IE becomes > irresponsive. > The problem only occurs on dual core machines and seems to be only > happening when i am using svg. If i am doing the same thing in some > applet (no svg usage) then it works fine. > > Has anyone encountered any such problem, is there a problem with svg > viewer OR IE on dual core machines. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ?
Hi Chaals, Thanks, for the info. This is very good to know. Keep up the great work. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile Sent: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 12:47 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:29:49 +0100, Antoine Quint <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ml%40graougraou.com> com> wrote: > On 27 févr. 2007, at 11:15, Chris Peto wrote: > >> Unfortunetly, all these implementations that you refer to are too >> slow. >> I hope these implementations will work on performance soon or are >> already. > > There may of course be features which Opera is worse than ASV in > terms of performance, but I generally find Opera equally as fast or > faster than ASV and since it has SVG features implemented natively, I > consider it to be a superior implementation to ASV. (Thanks for the kind words Antoine :) ). In any case, yes we are working on performance (and on even better support overall with stuff like SVG in CSS backgrounds for HTML) cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile, Opera Software: Standards Group hablo español - je parle français - jeg lærer norsk [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:chaals%40opera.com> com Try Opera 9.1 http://opera. <http://opera.com> com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] passing javascript variables to another page
Hi Harvey, What are you using as browser. I remember there was a problem with FF and onload being called to soon. I worked around it by trying get something that I knew was in the svg. If it was not found then I did a timeout and tried until everything was loaded. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rayner Sent: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 13:57 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] passing javascript variables to another page hi, my app uses javascript to change the color attributes of an svg image. after these attributes have been changed by the user i want to be able to send these color variables to another page where they can be used to create another svg. my page is php and i can collect variables from a url or by the POST method and pass these to the svg with an onload function. i'm ok with this last bit. my problem is sending the 'updated' variables from the first page. when i send the variables using window.location or post the original variables got from the svg file 'before' manipulation are sent, not the updated variables. however if i change the function to an alert, the updated values are shown. it seems like the page is being refreshed before the variables are passed into the new page. i've spent the best part of a day trying different things so i guess i missing something fundamental, any ideas anyone? cheers harvey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ?
Hi Andreas, That is great to here. I have a few clients that I would like to switch over to native svg implementations, but they were just to slow compared to ASV. Plus, little things like getComputedTextLength and getBBox were missing or incoorect implemented, which was not a killer but made for a bad looking UI. I will check out the suspend functions, but again I like to show objects being moved and only ASV did it smooth. The memory does not bother me so much as performance. I will be looking forward to getting rid of ASV and it's non standard implementations. Does anybody have a converter from Adobe font format in svg to SVG standard fonts? That is one of my biggest problems right now. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann Sent: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 17:03 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ? Hi Chris, It is true that for many things ASV is still the fastest SVG implementation. But this is changing. ASV Regarding Opera: it is funny, but performance for Opera on MacOSX is often better than on Windows, and also, people forget to turn on optimizations when developing SVG. As an example, people don't use document.documentElement.suspendRedraw(time); and unsuspendRedraw, simply because this wasn't implemented in ASV. So, if you change a lot in the DOM, it is always better performance wise it is always better to use suspendRedraw()/unsuspendRedraw() because otherwise Opera will draw stuff continuously during script operation, which of course slows it down compared to ASV. I am testing upcoming SVG builds in Firefox, Opera and Safari and can say that all the upcoming versions are faster than the previous ones. Safari on the Mac is f.e. very fast when creating new elements per script, often faster than ASV. But in some cases ASV is still faster. Depends ... Andreas --- In svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "Chris Peto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Unfortunetly, all these implementations that you refer to are too slow. > I hope these implementations will work on performance soon or are already. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > -Original Message- > From: svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:developers%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] > On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann > Sent: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 10:16 > To: svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG on Dual Core Machines ? > > > > Hi, > > have you tried in another SVG user agent? > > Opera, Firefox, Batik? > > You have to be aware that the Adobe SVG viewer 3 is old code (not > seriously updated since 2001 or 2002, except for security reasons) > and it won't be updated in the future. So the Adobe SVG viewer is a > phase-out model. If I were you I would look into the alternatives > like Opera, Firefox, Safari and Batik. > > There is even the possibility to run Batik as an applet inside > Internet Explorer, see http://xmlgraphics. > <http://xmlgraphics. <http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/demo.html> apache.org/batik/demo.html> apache.org/batik/ demo.html > > Andreas > > --- In svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com, > "lazers378" wrote: > > > > I have developed an application in svg in which I am using > javascript > > to manipulate the svg. The javascript is running in internet > explorer > > 6.0 scripting engine. After running for about 12+ hours the IE > becomes > > irresponsive. > > The problem only occurs on dual core machines and seems to be only > > happening when i am using svg. If i am doing the same thing in > some > > applet (no svg usage) then it works fine. > > > > Has anyone encountered any such problem, is there a problem with > svg > > viewer OR IE on dual core machines. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*>
RE: [svg-developers] Re: Consumer price index evaluation tool using svg
Hi, The tool looks ok. To bad they did not use a clipping path so that by zooming the line does not go off the chart. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pilatfr Sent: Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 00:25 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Consumer price index evaluation tool using svg --- In svg-developers@ <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "xof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This tool run fine in Opera 9.1! Michel > Hi, > Today on French TV channel "France 2", there was a report about a new web > tool designed by the National Institute for Statistics and Economic Studies > (INSEE) > Good surprise, the tool is using SVG. It can draw a graphical evolution of a > customized "Consumer price index" by taking into consideration some of the > consumer's habits. > Bad surprise, as often, it works only with IE+ASV. Wrong Content- Type is > send for Firefox, etc. > http://www.insee. <http://www.insee.fr/fr/indicateur/indic_cons/sip/sip.htm> fr/fr/indicateur/indic_cons/sip/sip.htm > > cheers > christophe > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] CGUI
Hi Everybody, Just wanted to let you know I have been working on CGUI again. I have some examples online: Http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets_mac/mac_widgets.svg Opera - 100%, FireFox - 97% (animation by edit), IE 6 + 7 ASV - 100% Http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets/sliderzoom.svg Opera - 100%, FireFox - 95% (animation by edit, problem with use), IE 6 + 7 ASV - 100% Soon, it should be showing up in SourceForge. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de http://www.vectoreal.com SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html (ASV 3.x) SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg (ASV 3.x) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] HTML-SVG in Firefox
Hi,
Why do you even have to use getSVGDocument. The document is the svg
document and root is document.documentElement.
Cheers,
Chris
-Original Message-
From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Olaf Schnabel
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. März 2007 14:47
To: svg-developers
Subject: [svg-developers] HTML-SVG in Firefox
Hi developers
I have a problem with the HTML-to-SVG communication in Firefox. I made a
simple example:
html_svg.html:
From HTML to SVG
<!--
function init()
{
var svgdoc = document.getElementById("mySVG").getSVGDocument();
svgdoc.getElementById("datetext").firstChild.nodeValue = "30";
}
//-->
HTML to SVG Test
Is this test working?
svg.svg:
http://www.w3. <http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd>
org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd">
http://www.w3.
<http://www.w3.org/2000/svg> org/2000/svg">
Firefox 2.0.0.3 (WinXP SP2) says, that getSVGDocument is not a function.
In other browsers like Opera 9.10 and IE 7 the example works.
Can someone of you give me a hint, why the error in Firefox occurs?
Thanks
Olaf
--
Dr. Olaf Schnabel
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[svg-developers] CGUI (CSVGUI in SourceForge) now avaliable
Hi Everybody, CGUI (SourceForge project CSVGUI) now available. http://csvgui.sourceforge.net/ Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Opera key events
Hi All, I CGUI I have an edit that should take numbers and characters, but some of the numbers are shortcuts in Opera, therefore my edit gets the character but Opera also handles the shortcut, i.e. zooming. Is there any way to stop this without have to delete the shortcuts? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Opera key events
Ah!!!, Great, that works. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Dahlström Sent: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 11:07 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Opera key events On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:39:10 +0200, Chris Peto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I CGUI I have an edit that should take numbers and characters, but some > of > the numbers are shortcuts in Opera, therefore my edit gets the character > but > Opera also handles the shortcut, i.e. zooming. > > Is there any way to stop this without have to delete the shortcuts? Yes, evt.preventDefault(). See the table at the bottom of the article[1], and some examples of it being used[2]. Hope this helps /Erik [1] http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/debugging-svg-with-opera/ [2] http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/eventhandling/ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] CGUI applications and examples
Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know I have worked over all CGUI examples to work in ASV and Opera, FF still needs some work. Applications: * SVG Editor <http://resource-solutions.de/svgeditor/main.svg> - From resource-solutions.de (Chris Peto, ASV and Opera) * SVG Editor (Mac-like) <http://resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg> - From resource-solutions.de (Chris Peto, ASV and Opera) * SVG Raiders <http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgraiders/main.svg> - From resource-solutions.de (Chris Peto, ASV and Opera) Widget Examples (source found in project repository) * CGUI Widget Demos <http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets/sliderzoom.svg> (Chris Peto, ASV, FF, and Opera) * CGUI Styled Widgets Mac-like <http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets_mac/mac_widgets.svg> (Chris Peto, ASV, FF, and Opera) You will find all the source and explanations at http://csvgui.sourceforge.net/ Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] ASV6 parseXML Problem
Hi, Make sure that you are loading a document fragment. That would mean you cannot have a DTD. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TheMountainScene Sent: Freitag, 27. April 2007 01:15 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] ASV6 parseXML Problem I have the following: var node = parseXML(data.content, document); var svg = node.firstChild; Works fine with ASV3, but node come up null with ASV6. My search on the issue has turned up nothing. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! Sean [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] SVG editor
Hi, Check the links out before. They work in Opera 9.23, IE (ASV). FF mostly. SVG editor: <http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html> http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: <http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg> http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.resource-solutions.de From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mjvermeulen Sent: Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 16:54 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] SVG editor Hi, Who knows a good online SVG editor that can run on a Apache server. It would be great if it has his own API. Thanks for your time Michael [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] WSIWYG Editor
Check out these links below SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor/main.svg SVG Editor Mac Skins: <http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg> http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.resource-solutions.de <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Sent: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 08:18 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] WSIWYG Editor Long time lurker, first time poster. I must say, the messages in this group has done wonders in bringing me up-to-speed on SVG technology - thanks! I've been a member of this group for probably 9-12 months now. I'm not an SVG developer, but instead a program manager in charge of a team that is working towards migrating raster images to SVG. I'm looking for a WSIWYG SVG editor that can be embedded in a web browser - any suggestions? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] SVG countdown
Hi,
Try:
var obj = document.getElementById("texte");
if(obj && obj.firstChild) obj.firstChild.data = time;
Regrads,
Chris
From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rémi Boulle
Sent: Montag, 8. Oktober 2007 21:32
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] SVG countdown
Hi,
I get a bit confused about modifying the content of a element.
The more I read, the more I feel confused. :-s
I would like to write a SVG code that will launch a countdown when cliking
on a rectangle (whatever the object).
Here is my code :
begin
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="0 0
400 250" onload="init()">
<![CDATA[
var sec = 20; // set the seconds
var min = 00; // set the minutes
function countDown() {
sec--;
if (sec == -01) {
sec = 59;
min = min - 1; }
else {
min = min; }
if (sec<=9) { sec = "0" + sec; }
<!-- time = (min<=9 ? "0" + min : min) + " min and " + sec + " sec "; -->
time = sec + " sec ";
if (document.getElementById) { document.getElementById("texte").innerHTML =
time; }
SD=window.setTimeout("countDown();", 1000);
if (min == '00' && sec == '00') { sec = "00"; window.clearTimeout(SD); }
}
]]>
Cliquez sur
le rectangle pour lancer le décompte
end**
I think that I need to replace the "innerHTML" by somethnig else like
:objet.getFirstChild().setData(countDown()) (doesn't work).
Any idea ?
Thanks.
Rémi (using FF2)
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RE: [svg-developers] Question about Opening and Saving a SVG file
Hi, It all depends on which database. MySql uses "Blob" for Binary Block Data and SQL Server uses IMAGE. Then you have to create your sql statement and download the binary data with functions like ODBC's SQLPutData (MSCV), should be something similar in ASP.net. Hope this helps. Chris From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matrixinbit94 Sent: Montag, 29. Oktober 2007 13:59 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Question about Opening and Saving a SVG file Hello, Everyone~ :) I have a trouble about saving SVG files to DB, whatever the platform. I've continuosly tried to figure out how it worked, but I didn't get any idea about it. I want to prefer to use ASP.Net but it's no problem even though you use Java or any language. If anybody knows how to make it, plz help me out :( Thank you for your help in advance. Have a great day. Kim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] focusHighlight must be inheritable
Hi, I have over 500 planes that I import into a svg program, because the focusHighlight is not inheritable I would have to go and reedit all 500 planes. Sorry, I will not do this nor my customer pay for such an act. This leads to the fact that none of the browsers that support this new feature can be used, so back to IE and ASV. Not good! Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg OPC Servers: http://www.resource-solutions.de/opc.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] focusHighlight must be inheritable
Hi, I have over 500 svg planes that I import into a svg program over getURL, because the focusHighlight is not inheritable I would have to go and reedit all 500 planes. Sorry, I will not do this nor my customer pay for such an act. This leads to the fact that none of the browsers that support this new feature can be used, so back to IE and ASV. Not good! This also goes for focusable attribute. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html SVG Editor Mac Skins: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor_mac/main.svg OPC Servers: http://www.resource-solutions.de/opc.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Print specification update?
On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 6:56:32 PM, ABQJoe wrote: A> Does anyone know if there has been any further development of the w3c A> SVG Printing specification project? A> Latest update I find is from 2/19/2003. Yes, sorry about that. It was waiting for the SVG 1.2 spec to settle down. We have a much more recent (edited in the last few weeks) internal draft and will release it 'soon'. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] SVG newbie in need of solution
Hi, You need to see up you graph and then fill it from the server? So do you have PHP and would like to change/redesign/create something that works? Maybe a link would be helpful? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development Resource Solutions Frankfurt, Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 Web: http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ Widgets Example: http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets/sliderzoom.svg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 16. September 2004 22:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] SVG newbie in need of solution Hello. I am new to the world of SVG and came to it because of a specific task in mind. I am currently working with a fellow student for a professor on an online database that currently uses javascript and PHP to create a SVG graph of datapoints from the database on the fly. The issue we're currently faced with is that the person who created this script is no longer with us and we're looking to have a clean start after a number of stumbles that has littered our site with unused code. This bring me to the reason I am seeking aid. We would like to adapt an already made (aka currently maintained) SVG script/program to handle our graphing needs and we're wondering what are the top recommendations out there. We have discovered GraPL.Net, but we're currently housed on a Linux server and have more experience with PHP than ASP. Of course if I've misunderstood the flexiblity of GraPL.Net, please inform me. Based on my search there are a number of SVG desktop programs and converter out there, but every little internet/server-side (or psuedo server-side) ones. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Lorraine - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129utn7v6/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1095453220/A=2352667/R=0/SIG=11t4iivpf/*htt p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185359&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2352667/rand=627488981> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] SVG newbie in need of solution
Hi, Was their a specific question somewhere there? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development Resource Solutions Frankfurt, Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 Web: http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ Widgets Example: http://www.resource-solutions.de/cgui_widgets/sliderzoom.svg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 16. September 2004 22:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] SVG newbie in need of solution Hello. I am new to the world of SVG and came to it because of a specific task in mind. I am currently working with a fellow student for a professor on an online database that currently uses javascript and PHP to create a SVG graph of datapoints from the database on the fly. The issue we're currently faced with is that the person who created this script is no longer with us and we're looking to have a clean start after a number of stumbles that has littered our site with unused code. This bring me to the reason I am seeking aid. We would like to adapt an already made (aka currently maintained) SVG script/program to handle our graphing needs and we're wondering what are the top recommendations out there. We have discovered GraPL.Net, but we're currently housed on a Linux server and have more experience with PHP than ASP. Of course if I've misunderstood the flexiblity of GraPL.Net, please inform me. Based on my search there are a number of SVG desktop programs and converter out there, but every little internet/server-side (or psuedo server-side) ones. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Lorraine - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129utn7v6/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1095453220/A=2352667/R=0/SIG=11t4iivpf/*htt p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185359&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2352667/rand=627488981> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Print specification update?
On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 7:19:05 PM, kgordon wrote: kdc> I think the guys at canon are the only ones working on it, for printer kdc> drivers. Printer drivers that take SVG and rasterise at high res for print, or printer drivers that generate SVG (from other inputs) for an SVG printer? -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Print specification update?
On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 4:51:41 PM, Richard wrote: RG> Whats the latest with the SVG 1.2 spec then There is another one under preparation, giving more detail in some previously vague areas and removing the RCC section which is replaced by a 'how to integrte SVG 1.2 and sXBL' section. RG> as the roadmap hasnt been RG> updated for a while? Yeah okay, now I am back from Japan I will get on it. RG> _____ RG> From: Chris Lilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RG> Sent: 15 September 2004 15:22 RG> To: ABQJoe RG> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG> Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG Print specification update? RG> On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 6:56:32 PM, ABQJoe wrote: A>> Does anyone know if there has been any further development of the w3c A>> SVG Printing specification project? A>> Latest update I find is from 2/19/2003. RG> Yes, sorry about that. It was waiting for the SVG 1.2 spec to settle RG> down. RG> We have a much more recent (edited in the last few weeks) internal draft RG> and will release it 'soon'. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: Browser Refresh
Why both? Just use embed. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development Resource Solutions Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 Web: http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: billtudwell69 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 20. September 2004 20:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Browser Refresh Using object and embed Here is the page below - http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1296gv3lm/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1095790720/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=454645400> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] evt and setingt new location after winXP SP2...
Hi, I use self.location in IE sp1 to avoid this. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development Resource Solutions Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 Web: http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: andré m. winter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 21. September 2004 12:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] evt and setingt new location after winXP SP2... hi i read about the problems with local files after winXP/SP2 update (<http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005836.cfm>), but now i saw another problem: in many applications i do set links with something similar to onclick="location='/path/term.pl?letter=A&lang='+lang" on or elements. after winXP/SP2 i get "Access denied, line 1 column NN" on all those elements. varying "location" with "window.location.href" the alert may be different but the result stays the same. has anyone a clue to repair this behaviour? other things i observed: - switching winXP firewalls and so on off doesn't change anything. - it makes no difference where the onclick-link goes to - no difference if there's no string joining within the attribute value. thanks andré - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129hcvubl/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1095847457/A=2352667/R=0/SIG=11t4iivpf/*htt p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185359&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2352667/rand=105603801> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] post data from inside the SVG
Hi, Yes, use postURL to send to server and getURL to retrieve from server. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development Resource Solutions Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 Web: http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: Bru, Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 21. September 2004 18:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] post data from inside the SVG hi, I displa a map+IHM in pure SVG to be able to use it on any browser. the user may update data (mainly preferences or already seen info). is it possible to post data to the server from the imbded JS ? TIA, Pierre [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12923fasi/M=257660.5436797.6522921.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1095868897/A=2363294/R=0/id=noscript/SIG=10 snt1au0/*http://www.putitinplay.com> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=257660.5436797.6522921.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2363294/rand=996447350> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: panning SVG with SVG plugin
Hi, I would play with the viewbox. The right click and other features like zooming and panning are viewer specific. See my viewbox example: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svg/viewbox/index.html Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: Samuel Dagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 14:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] Re: panning SVG with SVG plugin Hi Tony, I don't know about such a problem, but you can return to the original view by clicking on the "original view" from the ASV3 pop-up menu. You don't have to reload. You access the pop-up menu by right-clicking on the svg image. Cheers, Samy --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "antonygowland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I have been developing some prototypes for my company using SVG plug- > in 3.01 build 81. They are impressive but one problem I have is when > panning a zoomed image some of the primitives disappear especially > thinner lines and text. The only way to restore the image is to > reload it. Anyone else encountered this problem and is there a fix? > The SVG files are fairly hefty with a mixture of overlaid rasters and > SVG layers under a dynamic SVG layer. > Regards, Tony - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1296ba0fg/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1096028342/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=845712958> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Urgent
On Friday, September 24, 2004, 9:24:09 AM, Helena wrote: HC> People, I received a message that I didn't send! HC> I received a message from me; it seems that I send to the svg developers HC> group but I didn't send it! HC> Helena Its a virus with a forged from and to header. Ignore it. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Urgent
On Friday, September 24, 2004, 11:38:04 AM, ronan wrote: rrc> Peter, Helena, rrc> There is nothing that can be dne about these messages, as they are most rrc> likely being sent by spyware viruses on windows machines owned by other rrc> readers of the mailing list, or worse by unrelated users who parse a log rrc> of mailing lists for content. Yes. rrc> 4. do not enable html viewing. only view raw text emails. You can set your rrc> yahoo groups membership preferences to only send raw text emails. Or use a mailer (such as The Bat!) which does not us the MS HTML engine for rendering HTML mail and does not fetch external images and does not run scripts. rrc> 5. delete any emails with a subject line that is non-descriptive and out rrc> of context. Don't even look at it. This has a secondary effect of rrc> filtering stupid people... Like Re: [svg-developers] Urgent for example :) -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?
On Friday, September 24, 2004, 11:07:05 PM, dellscreek wrote: d> A very candid comment. For so many years, other parts of Web tech d> like Flash, DHTML etc has evolved into popular supports, SVG support d> is still in Stone Age, or should I say Iron Age? That is really d> ironic. d> The spec is growing fatty and fatty, which means fewer tech company d> would be able to come up with a full support (well, I mean at least d> one). Perhaps you could point to the DHTML specification, its associated test suite, and the implementation report on that test suite. We can then examine, on a comparative basis, the interoperability and the 'fattiness'. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Google making browser - SVG?
On Friday, September 24, 2004, 11:04:17 AM, Philippe wrote: PL> andré m. winter wrote: >> however google will build its browser, i fear their verve about >> supporting SVG will be limited. i just remember enqiries to them about >> supporting search and indexing on svg documents. they always argued with >> the too low market impact (not enough SVG files out there *on*line) for >> turning on indexing on svg docs. i got this confirmed in person at >> <http://www2003.org/> by a google representative. PL> That's a pity. Searching for SVG examples, I was wishing Google would be PL> smart enough to index all plaintext files (SVG, XML, source codes), PL> either for those looking for some rarely used tags/keywords or for the PL> comments/textual content. Google does not see the need to index XML content on the grounds that there is none out there. And indeed, if you use Gogle to look for it, there isn't :) nicely circular. Google has been asked to index XML content and W3C staff even showed them how simple that was for any +xml media type, and even volunteered code (which is trivial). But, little response. Maybe they need more customers to ask them. Hint. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo
Hi, Get a timeout on the page. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: vernarim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 11:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo Shame on me!... Here is the link: http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg Mario - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129rs6imb/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1096537502/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=585731359> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo
Sorry, page cannnot be found. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: Vernari-Corami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 12:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo Hi Chris, I don't understand what kind of a timeout you're meaning... Mario - Original Message - From: Chris Peto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo Hi, Get a timeout on the page. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: vernarim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 11:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo Shame on me!... Here is the link: http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg Mario - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129rs6imb/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1096537502/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=585731359> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1293tthr7/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1096538981/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=938582680> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ---
RE: [svg-developers] source for Chris Peto SVG editor/run locally
Hi, What do you want to do with it? You probably did not get all the js files and to work well it also needs php. The currect version only works in IE6 sp1 ASV3/6. I run it locally over apache with php. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 22. Oktober 2004 15:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] source for Chris Peto SVG editor/run locally Hi all, Can anyone (or maybe Chris himself) provide me with the complete source of Chris Peto's web-based SVG Editor please or tell me how to make it work locally? (http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor/main.svg) I've tried to download the .svg file and all the linked .js scripts and run it local, but it runs into many microsoft jscript errors. Thanks Wil - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1294hfr1u/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1098537320/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*htt p://promotions.yahoo.com/ydomains2004/index.html> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2376776/rand=841347741> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: source for Chris Peto SVG editor/run locally
Hi, The php and apache are needed to write/read from the harddrive. If you plan on not read and writing then is will work without the server and php, which is pretty useless. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Chris Peto Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions Founding Partner, Vectoreal - Germany Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource-solutions.de/> http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ -Original Message- From: JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 22. Oktober 2004 15:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [svg-developers] Re: source for Chris Peto SVG editor/run locally Hi Chris, Thanks for replying. I would like to study your example to make a webbased visio-like diagrammer in SVG. I didn't realise that you needed PHP and a webserver too. Is it possible to run it without this? (e.g. by replacing the php actions with local commands) Thx Wil --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Chris Peto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What do you want to do with it? > > You probably did not get all the js files and to work well it also needs > php. > > The currect version only works in IE6 sp1 ASV3/6. > > I run it locally over apache with php. > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards > Chris Peto > Freelance System Development, Resource Solutions > Founding Partner, Vectoreal > - > Germany > Mobile: +49 (0) 173 308 7843 > Tel:+49(0) 6103 80 21 98 > http://www.resource-solutions.de <http://www.resource- solutions.de/> > http://www.vectoreal.com <http://www.vectoreal.com/> > SVG editor: http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor.html > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Member of: SPARK - SVG Programmers' Application Resource Kit > SVG site: http://www.schemasoft.org/svg/main.svg > HTML site: http://www.schemasoft.org/ > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Freitag, 22. Oktober 2004 15:14 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [svg-developers] source for Chris Peto SVG editor/run locally > > > > Hi all, > > Can anyone (or maybe Chris himself) provide me with the complete > source of Chris Peto's web-based SVG Editor please or tell me > how to make it work locally? > (http://www.resource-solutions.de/svgeditor/main.svg) > > I've tried to download the .svg file and all the linked > .js scripts and run it local, but it runs into many > microsoft jscript errors. > > Thanks > > Wil > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1294hfr1u/M=294855.5468653.6549235.300117 6/ > D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1098537320/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*h tt > p://promotions.yahoo.com/ydomains2004/index.html> click here > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=group > s/S=:HM/A=2376776/rand=841347741> > > > _ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe> > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129qkmtav/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/ D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/EXP=1098540014/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*htt p://companion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=388436240> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sv
