[svg-developers] Re: status of examotion and Renesis SVG player

2010-08-10 Thread steltenpower
 I'm curious about the status of the Renesis SVG player. Nothing seems
 to be hosted at examotion.com anymore. Does anyone have any
 information about this?

The company Examotion no longer exists.
The people that were behind the company are discussing Renesis ownership.

That vague bit is all i know.





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[svg-developers] Google working on Javascript drop-in enabling SVG on IE

2008-12-28 Thread steltenpower
See
http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/why-did-smil-and-svg-fail/#comment-69986




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[svg-developers] Re: Converting JPG files to SVG

2008-12-09 Thread steltenpower
I guess you already got your answer at
http://kaioa.com/node/42#comment-265


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I create files for Desktop Cutting machines (Wishblade, Pazzles,
Craft Robo,
 etc) and I am adding on files useable with the Cricut machine.  But
it uses
 svg files - hence the need to convert from jpg (or wmf) to svg.
 
 
 Judy
 
  
 
 * * * * * * * * *
 
 Judy Perry from Tracy, CA
 
 Website: http://www.littlebit.com/rubber1.htm
 
 Free Cutter Files: http://tinyurl.com/5wdyo2
 
 -Original Message-
 From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Guy Morton
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:09 PM
 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Converting JPG files to SVG
 
 Just curious...but why are you doing that?
 
 On 09/12/2008, at 3:13 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
 
  I use Inkscape a lot. I've been converting some of my jpg files into
  svg files (opening the jpg file and save as a svg), but with over 1000
  files to convert, it is going to take me quite some time.
 
  What I am looking for is a script that I can run that will convert all
  the jpg files in a given directory to svg files.  I have numerous
  directories of jpg files, so being able to convert them one directory
  at a time would work.
 
  I have tried to create this script, but my coding skills are very
  rusty, so I am asking for assistance,
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Judy
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  
 
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG image with Wikipedia on SVG no great example

2008-10-20 Thread steltenpower
With most editing done by Jeff Schiller and a little by me:
http://steltenpower.com/svg.svg

I've asked Wikipedia admins to use this version, but nothing changed yet.

Feel free to improve on the file, or help Wikipedia make the change.



--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, steltenpower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Lazyweb,
 
 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics it shows the
 PNG version of the SVG image shown and described at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SVG.svg
 
 This is no great example of SVG.
 
 Visually:
 - The code is outlined 'wrong'
 - maybe different code would be better
 
 source-wise:
 - text should be in same order as read in the result
 - The source can be much, much shorter: Less digits in numbers, less
 repetition in code
 
 Please have it replaced by a way shorter file, that has almost the
 same (slightly better) result.






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[svg-developers] SVG image with Wikipedia on SVG no great example

2008-10-16 Thread steltenpower
Dear Lazyweb,

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics it shows the
PNG version of the SVG image shown and described at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SVG.svg

This is no great example of SVG.

Visually:
- The code is outlined 'wrong'
- maybe different code would be better

source-wise:
- text should be in same order as read in the result
- The source can be much, much shorter: Less digits in numbers, less
repetition in code

Please have it replaced by a way shorter file, that has almost the
same (slightly better) result.






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[svg-developers] An i can do that in SVG challenge?

2008-09-18 Thread steltenpower
http://bomvol.com (bomvol means: chock full)




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[svg-developers] a general SVG fallback page? (Re: SVG support detection in browserland)

2008-09-18 Thread steltenpower
 As a final note, I believe that using an HTML fallback with a static
 image (if applicable) or a link+instructions on how to install ASV (or
 any other alternative) plug-in is a simple yet effective approach. :-)


A friendly fallback helping people to install SVG capabilities, maybe
the time is right. Next to that it should be friendly to end users, it
should also be friendly to the many different SVG implementers. End to
make it friendly to the SVG content creators maybe something like
svg.org/IEfix.php?uri=http://myServer.com/myContent.svg (404, read the
URL to catch the idea) is a good idea.
(with cookies or something to 'annoy only once').





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[svg-developers] Re: GDS to SVG

2008-07-11 Thread steltenpower
What's GDS ?


 New this group How do you turn a  GDS file into a SVG file???  
Is there
 a free program out there to use.





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[svg-developers] please test SVG filters on any HTML page with Opera 9.5x (URLs inside)

2008-07-05 Thread steltenpower
Do you get a 'Opera goes green' version of the Opera page when
clicking
http://steltenpower.com/feColorMatrix.svg?uri=http%3A//www.opera.com/values=0%201%200%200%200%201%200%200%200%200%200%200%201%200%200%200%200%200%201%200title=Opera%20browser%3A%20Home%20page
?

In
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/applying-color-tints-to-web-pages-with-s/
i describe how to do this (hope you like it). However for some people
it works, for others it doesn't and for some it acts strange.
Comments or your own recoloring examples are welcome at the bottom of
the article.
Opera bug reports are welcome at http://bugs.opera.com/wizard/





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[svg-developers] Re: xbl 2.0 or sxbl usage for svg rendering

2008-07-04 Thread steltenpower
 I am planning to make use of xbl 2.0 with svg. Wondering if someone
 could point me to some links on the same lines. Also, I don't what is
 Opera take on supporting these standards. In all the examples I have
 seen, it looks like it is catered to Mozilla.  Any input will be
helpful.


Please send your findings to
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xbl-developers/




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[svg-developers] Re: Certification for free software and non-propriatory formats? (A bit off topic)

2008-06-30 Thread steltenpower
http://fronteers.nl is setting up certification for front-side web
technologies


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 I was recently reading a prospectus for a local colledge.  They had 
 courses on thing like Photoshop, Vista and Flash.  I got the distinct 
 feeling that they were charging several hudred dollars to teach stuff I 
 could probably figure out for myself but taking one of these course may 
 help get a job.  It also occured to me that there were no courses on 
 GIMP, Lynux, SVG etc..
 
 If you want to touch up holiday snaps, then GIMP is a lot cheaper than 
 even Photoshop Elements.  Alternatively, if you work for a high powered 
 computer company, or are an unemployed geek, you can modify GIMP or 
 Blender or something and do very complicated things with it.
 
 I suspect that part of the problem with getting acceptance for fee 
 software and non-propriatory formats is that you can't get certified 
 for them (or can you).  Is anything being done about this?  I'm 
 thinking about taking this issue to a lefty group and see if they're 
 interested in setting up courses on using fee computer software.






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[svg-developers] SVG Open 2008 site on-line

2008-01-26 Thread steltenpower
SVG Open 2008 site on-line

6th International Conference on Scalable Vector Graphics
26th to 28th August
Nuremberg | Germany

The world conference on SVG, the versatile 'HTML of graphics'
standard, this year takes place in the beautiful city center of
Nuremberg. That is in the south of Germany, a country in which many
people watch Football through SVG-enabled phones, or maybe pick the
seat for their flights on SVG-enabled websites. Nueremberg does even
have its own SVG Logo that can be seen here!

On this conference you can learn about subjects varying from
specialized technical visualizations to interactive multimedia art. On
the program there are presentations, beginner and advanced level
workshops, a technical exhibition, and the opportunity to meet people
from the SVG community, industry and the W3C SVG Working Group.

SVG Open 2008 is organised by examotion in affiliation with W3C.

Excited to contribute and participate? Click
http://svgopen.org/2008/index.php?section=participate

The above is all copied shamelessly of the http://svgopen.org website



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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Open 2008

2007-10-04 Thread steltenpower
http://svgopen.org/2008


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 Does anyone yet know when or where this is likely to happen?
 
 The cycle of funding here makes it easier to start planning early.
 
 regards,
 David





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[svg-developers] Re: Is svg still promising?

2007-09-10 Thread steltenpower
 it doesn't really matter if IE ever 
 supports this stuff or not.

Plus for those people that still use IE at THIS moment, if the
upgrade to Opera, Firefox, whatever! doesn't work yet, there are now
very real alternatives to ASV. New ones are the viewer of Satoru
Takagi, KDDI  (i'll look it up and add it to the viewer matrix on
wiki.svg.org) and maybe soon next to Mozilla  in IE, also a Batik in
IE to do the SVG rendering.


 a 1 meter by two meter interactive, 
 zoomable map done in SVG.

I have a link to a picture of this bad boy on
http://svg.startpagina.nl since ages, but forgot to go look, though i
might have even walked by (as i've been through Shibuya station a
couple of times.) Does anybody know exact coordinates or description
of its location (so i can point a friend who lives in Shibuya towards it)?
The image is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/bopuc/345243277/




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[svg-developers] Re: MSIE and the Future of SVG

2007-08-24 Thread steltenpower
 I would love to see SVG support in IE, we've been telling them to do 
 that since IE 4... but I stopped holding my breath at about 5.5.

Actually i'd love SVG support in most people's browsers.
Therefore i advise people to upgrade, no longer use IE.
MSIE and the Future, don't think so.

However
There are multiple options for viewing SVG in IE, next to the ASV and
Renesis plugins there's also Mozilla-in-IE, SVG-through-Flash,
Batik-handles-SVG, but those are not a double-click away solutions
yet. Anybody feels like putting some time in for the cause?





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[svg-developers] Re: Sites That Utilize SVG

2007-06-08 Thread steltenpower
Many listed on http://svg.startpagina.nl


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 Hi.. does anyone know of any websites or webapps out there that
 utilize SVG, besides Google spreadsheets?





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[svg-developers] Re: To draw an object on an image

2007-02-21 Thread steltenpower
topleft=x,y
bottomright=(x+width),(y+height)

so higher y is lower on your screen, for the root element.
transforms can change this.

Without a code example or name of the editor it's hard to help

Cheers,

Ruud
http://svg.startpagina.nl (SVG links resource)



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 Hi i'm working with a svg editor but i have a problem, when i draw an
 object like a rect or a circle on the canvas there is no problem, but
 when i insert a image on the canvas and then i want to draw a rect or
 something in the image, it draws upside-down  mmm as if it was
 inverting the coordinates, I hope someone could explain why it happens
 and how i can resolve it





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[svg-developers] brainstorming about an improved(?) SVG.org (IMHO)

2007-02-13 Thread steltenpower
read the short bit on http://svg.org/story/2007/1/31/23811/0350

and repeating the last sentence there:
 Just comment below if you want ideas explained, explain me why my
ideas suck, or TAKE ON any of the tasks (maybe fitting in a student
assignment).

I'd be surprised if Antoine Graouts, the guy behind (loads of work on)
svg.org , wouldn't like some help

Ruud
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[svg-developers] Re: brainstorming about an improved(?) SVG.org (IMHO)

2007-02-13 Thread steltenpower
 I'd be surprised if Antoine Graouts

It's Antoine Quint, aka graouts

sorry




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[svg-developers] What do you love and hate about Inkscape ? (getting coders and clickers to coop

2007-02-05 Thread steltenpower
Inkscape is a rather popular tool.
Many artists use it a lot. Coders (of SVG webapplications) are not
that much of fans, many rather handcode everything.

Is Inkscape wrong for you?
Why?
When?

Do you have problems with SVG that someone obviously created with
Inkscape? 
Why?
When?

Could things be improved?
Do you have specific suggestions?
Ideas for implementation strategies?

That would be helpful information for the Inkscape community.
You could also go the LibreGraphicsMeeting and meet up, present about
what SVG is used for apart from 'just pretty pictures' and show what
problems Inkscape raises to SVGcoders, solve some things

And of course coders are welcome to help improve through coding





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[svg-developers] Re: Firefox problems

2007-01-29 Thread steltenpower
Try these:

http://wiki.svg.org/SVG_FAQ
http://wiki.svg.org/SVGZ
http://wiki.svg.org/MIME_Type


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay I have a circle that works both in IE7 and Opera, but does not
work in FireFox.
 
 There are two levels that it does not work.
 
 Firstly I do not have my server SVG MIME type set correctly. I am
using Apache and have the following in the httpd.conf file :-
 
 AddType image/svg+xml svg
 AddType image/svg+xml svgz
 
 But it does not work causing FF to display SVG source code.
 
 Secondly when envoked from a file the content does not display the
circle.
 
 I am obvously doing some basic things wrong.
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 
 Aaron
 
 
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[svg-developers] easily create your own Sweet Valentine Greetings

2007-01-27 Thread steltenpower
Put names and a few lovely words into the form to create your own
nicely animated SVG Hearts at http://svghearts.com

Spread the love.



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[svg-developers] approach Adobe (Re: target in IE 7)

2007-01-10 Thread steltenpower
 This is really something that Adobe should fix. At least they claim 
 that they support ASV3 until Jan. 2008.
 
 They really should fix the open problems around IE7. I will compile a 
 list and approach Adobe to see if they can do anything about it.
 
 Andreas

Make sure to have fixing adobe.com's  settings for serving .svg and
.svgz files on your list.
http://wiki.svg.org/MIME_Type and http://wiki.svg.org/SVGZ just in
case they need it



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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Assistance with mapinfo

2006-12-29 Thread steltenpower
If you fix the MIME-type setting and namespace declarations a lot more
people will see an image, that they can start helping you with...


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 I am currently using SVGmapmaker to generate a series of svg files. The 
 appearance of the maps I require is the option where the svg has all 
 the controls embeded into it rather than as hmtl. When I use this 
 option, the legend is not embeded but is produced as a SVG output. 
 
 I have placed an example at 
 
 http://www.freewebs.com/brianadr/QLDTEST.htm
  
 http://www.freewebs.com/brianadr/index.htm
 
 I have tried several editors and none seem to be able to do the tasks 
 required without altering the original code nor do they indicate in the 
 xml where the legend is.
 
 Is it more effective to have the various theamatics as raster files 
 rather than as vector images. What are the pro and cons both approaches?
 
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[svg-developers] Merry XML !

2006-12-24 Thread steltenpower
http://svglogo.com/xmlmas-tree.svg



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[svg-developers] fixing Adobe SVG Zone (Re: Adobe extends ASV download availability indefinitely)

2006-12-15 Thread steltenpower
 I also think it would a great help if
 the SVGZone examples were updated to better conform to standards and
 work in more browsers.


Get MIME and namespace declarations correct for a starter.



BTW: Weren't there 2 or 3 more examples before ?



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[svg-developers] SVG Wiki changes (stay informed (feed available))

2006-12-12 Thread steltenpower
And of course help update, answer questions on this list with wiki
URLs, etc:

http://wiki.svg.org/Special:Recentchanges?title=Special:Recentchangesdays=30limit=500





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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Slideshow maker

2006-12-08 Thread steltenpower
Or Slidy, or one of the few presented at svgopen(.org)

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, tbone58x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try S5 - http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
 
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Julien Reichel 
 julien.reichel@ wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  
  I'm looking for a software/application/or anything else, that could 
 help
  creating slideshow in SVG format. The purpose is to be able to 
 provide a
  PowerPoint like application to edit slideshows by non-computer
  specialist witch generate slides that can be viewed on many 
 different
  platforms. Simply printing PPT slides into a svg or pdf files is not
  sufficient as all animations would be lost.
  
  I found some links to JackSVG on the web, but I couldn't find the
  software anywhere. Does anybody have an updated link to this tools ?
  
  Does any of you knows about application (libraries, projects, ...) 
 that
  could help me. 
  
  Thank you in advance, and best regards
  
  Julien
 





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[svg-developers] speed up fixing of SVG's loose ends and IE=broken (...stinking standards....)

2006-12-01 Thread steltenpower
Just like we managed to get Adobe to postpone the End-Of-Life of ASV,
there's more we can do:


On HTML: First everybody blamed 'other' browsers (but it works in
IE), now even the broader public is starting to understand it's
usually broken HTML (or just broken websites) being the cause,
though you now also sometimes hear IE is broken or more often IE
sucks.

The broader public has mostly never heard of SVG, that's no problem.
If something doesn't seem to work they first blame the things visible
to them (the vehicles of SVG), a product name like for example
Inkscape or Firefox or Google Maps. These might be bad examples
though, as these are considered to offer significant added value or to
be just COOL, mostly because they seem to just work.

Improving the general it just works factor of SVG with some easy
community effort (can start with just a few minutes) would speed up
both the growth of SVG and IE is broken:


- Fixing the MIME-type:

Some content that is meant to result in an image on screen, shows up
code or a saveAs dialog because it is not served as image/svg+xml
This problem is definitely shrinking (and goes away once IANA adds it
to THE list), but could shrink faster. Especially content that is
linked to a lot, could use a polite report of needing a simple fix to
stop it from being invisible to many (customers). Send along
http://wiki.svg.org/MIME_Type You'll  get thanked.


- Not forgetting the namespace declarations:

similar


- Updating SVG Wiki:

Join in. Use Wiki URLs in answering on this list


- pimp SVG

Visually of course !!
clipart of the week on http://openclipart.org/cchost is a nice
little example. Looking forward to many more, addicting (mobile) games
maybe, screensaver pieces of art, etc.
When you blog about them, also be visual, just use SVG (possible
fallback: your browser can't handle SVG directly; see it indirectly
through Java (Batik Squiggle WebStarted)) 


- report bugs:

On viewers, editors, generators, content, documentation


- ask for SVG as a feature:

This is often covered already, if not: just ask


- help Xbrowser projects:

There are useful validators and Xbrowser scripting libraries that can
use some help or promotion


I'm sure the small minority already doing lots or all of these would
very much appreciate your bit of help, as will you yourself.


Just some ideas
Ruud
http://svg.startpagina.nl (SVG links resource)



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[svg-developers] SVG developers on IRC (chat)

2006-12-01 Thread steltenpower
For those who didn't know yet: irc://irc.freenode.net/svg



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[svg-developers] Re: Does Adobe’s SVG Plug in works in Firefox

2006-11-18 Thread steltenpower
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#iasv


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 Does Adobe's SVG Plug in works in Firefox 1.5? I have been using ASV in 
 IE, but I have not been able to make it work in Firefox. 
 
 Is it possible to make ASV3 work in Firefox? If possible, is there any 
 exception.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 Akil






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[svg-developers] Re: Will IE 7.5 or IE8 offer a browser with built-in SVG support?

2006-11-17 Thread steltenpower
 Since Adobe will discontinue support for their SVG viewer, I am 
 wondering if I should abandon SVGs for Flash?

ASV is not the only SVG viewing option for IE. Not now and certainly
not in the future.


 Why is Adobe discontinuing support for the SVG viewer?

Only the decision makers know. Here 2 (extreme?) thoughts :-)
short term:
-Adobe owns Flash. Income. vendor lock-in.
long run:
-Adobe thinks it needs the open format SVG is, to be able to stand
Microsoft competition. As more and more people understand the
advantage of a real open format, but too many people think SVG is an
Adobe(-only) format, Adobe is taking a lower profile to give room to
other implementations. And after all it's editors that are Adobe's
business, editors that still have significant SVG support.


 Will they release that code as open source?

They said they won't


 ASV, in my opinion, is a fantastic viewer for SVGs.

For its time it was. Some bugs of both the forgiving and non-forgiving
type are rather annoying though. Creating cross-viewer
multi-namespaced SVG full off event-handling is no picknick with ASV
being one of the viewers.


 I like Opera's native support of SVGs, but right now, I have 
 to focus on what my customers will use and they are using IE.

As i said ASV is not the only solution with IE. Other IE-solutions are
premature for technical or availability reasons at this moment. That
is changing quickly enough, in time for when ASV is no longer to be
downloaded form adobe.com more than 2 years away.

There's a difference in what your customers use now and what they use
more than 2 years from now. Some gentle education can make a
difference, make sure to at least mention it. Talk money: the develop
to standards, adjust for IE-way, the mobile web soon to explode
(maybe your customers already have phones running Opera), semantic
content making sure your customers can find you through Google, etc.
And well, even Microsoft uses SVG, for example in a big product like
Virtual Earth.

Just make sure to now start adjusting (mostly only small changes) your
SVG code so it conforms to the standard and where possible (the
popular Firefox for example doesn't do all of SVG yet) also works in
other viewers.

Cheers,

Ruud
http://svg.startpagina.nl (loads of SVG links)

PS: what about Adobe putting out a new version of the Flash player on
01/01/09, that also does SVG (only as a fall-back for lousy browsers)
through a deal with Renesis or one of the companies delivering mobile
viewers, not making any fuss about it ? Unless it's really good i'm
not so sure i want SVG support natively in IE actually




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[svg-developers] Re: OpenGL SVG rendering engine

2006-11-16 Thread steltenpower
What about Amanith? (Google result #2)


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, aneurin.price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings,
 I'm looking for an (Open Source) SVG rendering engine that can 
 render natively to OpenGL; using OpenGL drawing commands rather than 
 doing software rasterization and then converting the result to a 
 texture or such.
 
 So far I've not found such a thing - all I've found are software 
 like librsvg which uses Cairo as its canvas then converts the 
 resulting image buffer to a texture. Possibly Glitz could be used 
 here, but the documentation seems sparse and I think librsvg does a 
 lot of its rendering internally. Other software I've looked into 
 seems to be similar in this respect.
 
 So is there actually any software that does what I want? I can't 
 really see any reason why it wouldn't be possible, though I imagine 
 it would require rendering each element to an offscreen buffer, such 
 as a texture, before compositing. The difference here is that the 
 rendering would still be hardware accelerated as all the drawing and 
 compositing would be done by the graphics hardware, rather than 
 simply the final compositing.
 
 If I've missed something that makes this impossible/impractical, I'd 
 appreciate being put right :). Similarly if there's already 
 something out there that does that and I've somehow missed it.
 
 I hope that all made sense; I'm desperately tired so if I've missed 
 some crucial point of the explanation, let me know.
 
 Thanks for reading, and if anybody can enlighten me in any way I'd 
 be grateful,
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[svg-developers] W3C validator now has valid ... icons in SVG (where ... can be a SVG flavor)

2006-11-14 Thread steltenpower
See http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/Icons and notice ... all available in
PNG, GIF, SVG and EPS. To link to a specific version directly, add
.png, .gif, .svg or .eps  to the generic URI.




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[svg-developers] Re: SVGs, JavaScript and Adobe Illustrator CS2 and SVG RoboHelp

2006-11-09 Thread steltenpower
 1.  Adobe SVG Viewer will discontinue support as of Jan 2007.

After complaints from the world, Adobe postponed this to Jan 2008.
You can download it from adobe.com till Jan 2009
You can still use it after that, you can't spread it outside your
company however.


 2.  Both IE7 and Netscape 8.1 do NOT support SVGs natively.

Netscape 9 will, IE 7.x might
And next to whisperget rid of IE/whisper there are indirect
options like the Renesis plug-in, or Batik either as an applet or Web
Started on its own. Good would be to make sure your content is really
SVG up to the standard and test it in different viewers.



 If a customer only uses IE or Netscape and they require SVGs, then a 
 work-around is the only course of action.

A gentle remark about other options like for example Opera or Firefox
never hurts, if only to weaken the stubbornness :-)


 Let's hope that Netscape and Microsoft will join Opera and Firefox, 
 in support of native SVG (within their browsers).  From a business 
 standpoint, I think it makes sense to fully support SVGs.

Netscape is based on Firefox these days.
If Internet Explorer shows up with good XHTML+SVG more (contrary to
the continous dropping marketshare of now) people might use it for
other reasons than it came with the machine, plus Microsoft might
not mind putting a dent in Adobe's Flash.




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[svg-developers] Re: ASV Replacement for IE

2006-11-07 Thread steltenpower
 Since Adobe SVG Viewer won't be supported in the near future I would
 like to replace it.

Adobe
stops supporting it 1/1/8
stops offering the download 1/1/9
still allows you to use it (not spread it outside your company) after that

It is wise to make sure your content is at least valid SVG to start with.


 Currently we've developed our application with IE and ASV.
 So I'm looking for any viewer compatible with IE:

For plugins there's the Corel one (which is old and not being
improved) and the Renesis one (which is new and being improved)
You can also use Batik in an applet setting.
A new version of IE might support it natively, as SVG is growing
steadily. Plus you can of course gently let people know there's a
world outside IE.. Opera, Firefox, basically anything but IE within a
few months


 http://wiki.svg.org/Viewer_Implementations
 But none of those above are free.

There ARE a few mentioned there that you don't have to pay for.


 Did anyone found something?

The links at the bottom of the page you looked at (and at the top of
http://svg.startpagina.nl) have some more, for example:
http://wiki.svg.org/Viewer_Matrix


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[svg-developers] Adobe and Mozilla working together on future Javascript/Actionscript

2006-11-07 Thread steltenpower
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/press/mozilla-2006-11-07.html




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[svg-developers] Re: Insert Image into SVG document

2006-11-01 Thread steltenpower
 Hi!, i have a question, is it possible insert a image into svg
 document when for example I do click in a link?

Yes


 I tried with a java script function like this

javascript is correct and makes the chance of confusing with Java
smaller.


 im= svgDocument.createElementNS(svgNS,image);
 im.setAttributeNS(null,id,imagen+con[7]);

So now you have a javascript object named im referring to an image
element with the id image+con[7]


 im.setAttributeNS(null,xlink:href,mapa.png);

I think you should change this to ..(xlinkNS,href,mapa.png);
where you first define xlinkNS=http:// ... ; (look it up)


 svgRoot.appendChild(imagen);

I think you meant ..(im);


I think this quick reaction and maybe some Googling will get this
sorted out.

Cheers,

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[svg-developers] viewBox/transform bug in ASV3 ?

2006-10-16 Thread steltenpower
I've built something without any script, that renders as expected on
ASV6, Opera, Batik and Firefox, but is rendered off-screen at a
different size in ASV3.

See http://svg.org/story/2006/10/4/15516/6685

I'd love to find out what the problem (and the solution or workaround) is.







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[svg-developers] SVG links page updated, just in time for 20,000th hit

2006-10-15 Thread steltenpower
http://svg.startpagina.nl

The primary idea of the site is showing that SVG is used all over the
place, secondarily it's so you don't need to maintain SVG bookmarks.

It's part of the startpagina.nl for traffic reasons; layout is not
great, HTML source is awful

If you have any ideas on how to improve it, please let me know.
Maybe i should write something to make it part of the SVG Wiki, the
content is in a custom XML format after all.

Enjoy! (and comment!)

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[svg-developers] Re: SVG authoring - web based applications

2006-10-10 Thread steltenpower
Hi Jonathan,

Please make sure the SVG code output is useable for coders to build
webapplications or animations from. Inkscape, an absolutely great tool
if a static image is your final endproduct, its SVG output for example
is rather useless in that respect.

Doesn't Google have an on-line editor ?
Can you send me a complete list of on-line editors when you have found
a few more?  I'll put it on http://svg.startpagina.nl

Cheers,

Ruud


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 Doug,
 
 given the underwhelming response, so far 0 yes nill null nix online  
 SVG editors, it might be as well to draw a team together to work on a  
 web2.0 version, for which I have some excellent proposals
 
 had hoped we might be able to start from somewhere other than ground  
 zero ~:
 
 cheers
 
 Jonathan Chetwynd
 
 
 
 On 8 Oct 2006, at 23:26, Doug Schepers wrote:
 
 Hi, Ronan-
 
 How embarrassing! I didn't realize that there was still a copy of that
 on my site. It was one of the first things I wrote in SVG, 5 years ago
 or more, and it only works in ASV. To the extent that it does function,
 it is buggy and poorly written (although a neat idea to this day).
 
 It took me months to write, and would be a nightmare to fix or to
 support. My intent is to rewrite it from scratch One Of These Days, but
 in the meantime, I'm afraid I've had to shoot that horse.
 
 Ronan Oger wrote:
   There's Doug Schepers's example:
  
   http://www.svg-whiz.com/current/svg-whiz.html
  
 
 Regards-
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[svg-developers] What viewers are there...?

2006-09-13 Thread steltenpower
With all the discussion on the ASV EOL, i guess lot's of people are
interested in what ('alternative') viewers there are.

Therefore i started http://wiki.svg.org/Viewer_Matrix

Not nearly finished or complete, so feel free to improve, please do

No category excluded up front, so HTML+SVG viewers, SVG-only browsers,
static SVG only, DHTML based renderers, plug-ins, Web Started viewers,
nightly builds, releases, free and non-free, Tiny, Full

Could Batik be wrapped up into a plug-in? And Amanith?

Give the SVG Wiki some love








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[svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread steltenpower
 I cannot find the announcement at adobe's website. Care to direct me
to the right URL?


  http://www.adobe.com/svg

A link from there brought me to http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html





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[svg-developers] now is the time for requests for FireBug, javascript debugger

2006-09-03 Thread steltenpower
See http://www.joehewitt.com/blog/next_firebug.php





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[svg-developers] Re: Absolute path to Relative path

2006-08-25 Thread steltenpower
 Does anyone know if there is a utility out there which can take
 absolute path co-ordinates and convert them to a relative path
 instruction set?

 I'm sure there must be a nice algorithm out there for this.

How i would go about (after having Googled without success):

Regexp to build an array containing all steps
Regexp to build an array containing all components of a step
(commandcharacter and numbers, no whitespace, no commas)

For all commandcharacters define a series stating whether a component
changes going from absolute to relative say c,x,y (constant,
changing with x, changing with y)

Now go through the steps array, keep a previous_stop_x and
previous_stop_y, for every step change the components where necessary.

Then turn it all into a string

Good luck and don't forget to share your algorithm when it's done :-)






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[svg-developers] Re: Translate and scale on mouse click

2006-08-16 Thread steltenpower
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Marc Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a SVG with a viewBox of 600X800 that references an image file 
 (PNG) that is larger than that size. Only the top left portion of the 
 image is visible. 
 
 I'd like to write some javascript that will allow clicking on the 
 image at any point in the viewBox, centering the image on that point, 
 and scaling it by 2. It would emulate a zoom-in by single clicking.
 
 I'm doing this by translating the group around the image based on the 
 coordinates of the mouse click. The centering of the image is working, 
 but when I apply the scale transform, the centering is thrown off. The 
 previously centered part of the image is usually up and to the left. 
 I'm assuming this has to do with either different coordinate spaces, 
 the order of the transforms, or scaling performed at (0,0), but I'm 
 not sure which.

going from mouse coordinate to target coordinate in some viewers needs
some scripting, see Holger Will's script on http://wiki.svg.org/Starter

scaling works from the current (0,0) origin

transforms are read right to left, upwards, for example:
g transform=scale(9)g transform=translate(7,8)scale(5,6)
stroke=none fill=redrect x=1 y=2 width=3 height=4 //g/g
renders as
g transform=scale(9)g transform=translate(7,8)rect x=5
y=12 width=15 height=24 stroke=none fill=red //g/g
renders as
g transform=scale(9)rect x=12 y=20 width=15 height=24
stroke=none fill=red //g
renders as
rect x=108 y=180 width=135 height=216 stroke=none fill=red /

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[svg-developers] DOM inspector features to vote or code on

2006-08-08 Thread steltenpower
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347718
a table with DOM elements versus eventhandlers

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347717
allow namespace related background colors on elements and attributes
(starting version 3.0 of Firefox namespaces are shown (in text) for
attributes, as they are already for elements)

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347723
non-XBL variant of a document





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[svg-developers] SVG-developers bookmarklets updated

2006-07-30 Thread steltenpower
http://steltenpower.com/svgbookmarklets.html :

Some 1-click features:
- W3C validator that doesn't 'nag' about DOCTYPE, or stuff you added
in other than SVG or Xlink namespace
- JSlint analysis of your Javascript
- your content checked for compatibility with different viewers

Some ideas for future improvement i wouldn't mind help on:
-implement the rest
- add SVG show-off kiosk mode
-move all script into bookmarklets (maybe with technique mentioned on
http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/2005/08/ajax-creating-huge-bookmarklets.html
)
- 1-click to export it from my bookmarkbar onto both the URL mentioned
at the top and a Firefox extension (including a ASV/native switch?) on
a different URL (or parts of that scheme)
- debug





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[svg-developers] Re: cross-viewer SVG development and debugging from within the browser

2006-07-26 Thread steltenpower
updated it a bit:

http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2004/svgproxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsteltenpower.com%2Fstarter.svg

Ideas to add? (except for:actually implement all bookmarklets :-) )



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[svg-developers] cross-viewer SVG development and debugging from within the browser

2006-07-15 Thread steltenpower
Just started development.
I want your ideas too.
Some ideas for inspiration and a tidbit of code i hope to soon expand:
source: http://steltenpower.com/starter.svg (bad MIME for now)






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[svg-developers] How do you debug your Javascript(+SVG) code?

2006-07-07 Thread steltenpower
Please read http://svg.org/user/stelt/diary and react there





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[svg-developers] Re: How to make SVGZ from a SVG file?

2006-06-12 Thread steltenpower
try http://wiki.svg.org/Server_Configuration:Apache



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 I have an web application where we have to pass a large SVG but the
 bandwidth is your Bottleneck. For that, i´m think about using Gzip
 libraries to make an SVGZ file, that can be opened in ASV3.0. Is
there any
 Borland C++ libraries and/or Java libraries to implement Gzip
algorithms?
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[svg-developers] Build an SVG Developer extension for Firefox?

2006-05-06 Thread steltenpower
A 99% copy of my http://svg.org/story/2006/5/6/102519/5869 :

SVG Webdeveloper extension or shiny donkey ?

As with any technology, developing SVG content can too easily go wrong
on little things in multiple places. I believe it's a small number of
exactly those little things that many people creating their (first)
pieces of SVG keep encountering. Though there are lots of helpful bits
in tools and documentation around they are too scattered for
especially the novice SVG developer. Therefore i think it would be
incredibly useful if, just as the widely popular Web Developer
extension for HTML, CSS, etc., a SVG Developers Firefox extension
would come into existance. There's already the nice SVG Switcher
extension that allows you to choose between 2 renderers. But what
about the following functionality? Check/overrule MIME. Validate SVG.
Check browsers compatibility. Advise workarounds for bugs. WebStart
Batik. save raster. detect common coding errors. specialized search.
links to spec(s), svg.org, wiki and svg.startpagina.nl. and we can
probably think of much more functionality. Maybe cooperate with Chris
Pederick of the award-winning Web Developer extension? 

If you're the one to start this off, ask for the mythical
shiny donkey on #svg for some help.






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[svg-developers] new xbl-developers list (XBL = XML Binding Language(s))

2006-04-17 Thread steltenpower
the description on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbl-developers/ reads:

XBL, or XML Binding Language(s). An XML language for coding-shortcuts
to more Model-View-Controller separation in building visualisations in
for example XHTML or SVG.

This is a mailing list and web forum for anyone who is (interested in)
developing something that uses XBL technology.

Primarily it is meant as a learning and helping experience for
beginner to expert developers, no matter which of the similar, but
different 'flavours' of XBL you're targeting.

Secondarily, it might also give writers and implementors of those
different XBL specifications useful feedback on use cases,
misinterpretations, valuable examples, missing documentation, etc.

Because often whatever works for me now is what counts this list is
meant to be a valuable adddition to what is already on the web for the
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[svg-developers] dutch/flemish people going to Libre Graphics Meeting March17-19, Lyon, France?

2006-02-07 Thread steltenpower
http://www.livre.nl would be interested in a report about the meeting, 
see http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/

You can also contact livre.nl through me if that's easier.

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[svg-developers] SVG Open 2005 video streams live NOW !

2005-08-16 Thread steltenpower
Check http://www.svgopen.org/2005




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[svg-developers] [SVG Open] get your choices of registration in (courses, dinner, lunches, etc.)

2005-07-21 Thread steltenpower
Because it takes some time to make arrangments we want to know your 
choices for SVG Open before the end of the month.

-lunch: make sure to register quickly so we can guarantee you lunches.
-diner: select it among your options in the on-line registration
system.
-courses: make your preferences known in the same on-line system to 
make sure you'll get the course(s) you want.

Looking forward to meeting you all pretty soon,

(for options of adding something to the event there's several 
commercial options still available)

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SVG Open 2005 team
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[svg-developers] possible customer for specialized CAD or DXF to SVG

2005-07-20 Thread steltenpower
I know a company that uses a specialized CAD that can also output to 
DXF to have it in a bit more mainstream format. This company uses DXF 
to PDF conversion to get the result in an even more mainstream format.
However the files created in this way are really BIG, this together 
with the possibilities SVG can offer that i told them about, has them 
very interested whether SVG can be a better (including smaller 
filesize) option.

I have a sample DXF file to work with at 
http://steltenpower.com/SVGioPDF.dxf

With this company having many subcontracters and more than a million 
customers a year i guess it could be an interesting customer

Anybody interested? Show me an example.




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[svg-developers] commercial opportunities at SVG Open: commercial track, exhibition, sponsoring

2005-06-21 Thread steltenpower
Vectoreal is sponsoring and helping organize the commercial 
presentation track. The aim is to provide a venue for companies to 
promote their services to the appropriate audience with a focus on 
product introduction and demonstration and on offers of services. The 
commercial track will run parallel to the 'normal' parallel sessions 
of the conference, using the available conference facilities. 

Vectoreal invites all commercial vendors who wish to participate to 
register at 
http://www.vectoreal.com/svgopen2005/commercialtrack/comtrack.html 



information about the exhibition and sponsorship are found on our 
website http://www.svgopen.org/2005

Does your business scale?

See you in August,

Ruud Steltenpool
SVG Open 2005 team





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[svg-developers] Re: SVG catalogue on the net??

2005-06-17 Thread steltenpower
linkcollection: http://svg.pagina.nl




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[svg-developers] Apply for being a sponsored presenter at SVG Open 2005 !

2005-06-17 Thread steltenpower
Together with our main sponsor Vectoreal student awards are made
available for 1-3 students or other worthy candidates, who have a
financial need for funding.
Vectoreal will sponsor travel and accommodations costs. Application
handling and awarding will be by Vectoreal, applications can come from
already accepted speakers or other candidates that are found of
appropriate quality by Vectoreal.

Go to http://www.vectoreal.com/svgopen2005/sponsorship/students.html
to apply.

SVGopen2005 will provide free conference access and a conference
dinner ticket, to a maximum of 3 receivers of a Vectoreal student
sponsorship.


Looking forward to August,
meeting many of you,

Ruud Steltenpool
SVG Open 2005 team
http://www.svgopen.org/2005




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[svg-developers] [SVG Open] This friday last day for early-bird rate of worldevent

2005-06-16 Thread steltenpower
This friday is the last day at which you can save yourself 50 euros,
so go register at http://www.svgopen.org/2005/registration.html

If you don't yet know why you should go:
- Check our on-line schedule for all the interesting presentations and
workshops
- Know you can meet up with the W3C workgroup, major implementors,
vendors, expert developers, graphic artists, customers, etc. from
around the world
- Look through our website http://www.svgopen.org/2005
- You also want to try our campus-wide Wifi-based Location-Based
Services that we will launch then, have diner in a museum with the
dutch masters and more, etc.

Hope to see you in Enschede, the Netherlands, August 15-18.

Ruud Steltenpool
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG wiki at Wikipedia?

2005-05-31 Thread steltenpower
I spoke with Wikipedia developers yesterday !! (at Holland Open conf.
in Amsterdam) to get them to allow SVG as content.

Though they liked the idea they had a (security)problem with, but no
solution implemented yet for, javascript possibly being contained in
the SVG.

If there's more people asking them for it (which would be the case
when we want 'our' wiki to go there), or maybe even SVG people helping
them out, that of course could help.

And when the option is there, it means extra exposure for SVG.
So i like your idea.

Ruud



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 Since the SVG wiki is offline for a while, due to spamming and
security problems:
 
 I wonder if it would be better to have the SVG wiki content moved to
the main wikipedia 
 website? Is that safer against spammers? What do you think?
 
 There is already a SVG topic at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
 
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[svg-developers] early bird rate deadline for SVG Open 2005 nearing

2005-05-17 Thread steltenpower
As you can see on http://www.svgopen.org/2005/registration.html you
can save 50 euros when completing registration before June 1st. Do it now.

The schedule is nicely taking shape. We're happy to have received a
very nice collection of abstracts, of which the best were accepted.

On behalf of the SVG Open 2005 team:

greetings, see you in August

Ruud Steltenpool
http://www.svgopen.org/2005




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[svg-developers] SVG screensavers (IE-based)

2005-03-29 Thread steltenpower


http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/djmclean/htmlscreensaver.html

The screensaver uses Internet Explorer full-screen with the URL you
configure it with. So when you have a SVG viewer installed under IE,
you can make SVG screensavers.

If only there was a similar thing for FireFox






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[svg-developers] SVG Open abstract deadline shifted to March 1st.

2005-02-01 Thread steltenpower


abstracts are still welcome for
* presenting a paper,
* organising a panel discussion,
* teaching a course or a workshop,

Most people wait till the last moment obviously :-)
The last few days interesting abstracts for paper presentations have
been coming in, but more are welcome. To give everybody a little more
time, we shifted the abstract deadline towards March 1st.


promotion (you can help):
=
With the extra month there's also more opportunity to bring new people
to SVG Open. We're busy with that. Maybe you can personally motivate
some people from your network to submit an abstract. And remember,
next to paper presentations also proposals for organising a panel
discussion or teaching a course or workshop are very welcome. Explain
people what SVG can mean for their line of work, write a specific
story on it, or just hang up the poster
(http://www.svgopen.org/2005/images/SVG_StandBanner.pdf).


Looking forward to meeting you all in August,

greetings, Ruud (on behalf of the SVG Open 2005 team)

http://www.svgopen.org/2005 (with the new logo)


my SVG.org diary: http://svg.org/user/stelt/diary






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[svg-developers] Re: animating a clipPath?

2004-12-31 Thread steltenpower


With your help i now have this nice effect:
http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2005_2.svg

thanks.

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Stelt
 
 Its not the animation that causes the problems, but rather there seems 
 to be a problem with groups inside clipPath?!
 as a workaround you can use a mask. ive changed your file to use mask 
 and uploaded it here:
 http://www.treebuilder.de/svg/2005.svg
 
 hope it helps
 holger
 
 steltenpower wrote:
 
 
  In http://steltenpower.com/2005.svg i try to animate a clippath, but
  without success
 
 
  Want i want to accomplish is like
  http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2005.svg
  but then with the (now red) 2005 acting as a clippath for the photo.
 





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[svg-developers] animating a clipPath?

2004-12-30 Thread steltenpower


In http://steltenpower.com/2005.svg i try to animate a clippath, but
without success


Want i want to accomplish is like
http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2005.svg
but then with the (now red) 2005 acting as a clippath for the photo.





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[svg-developers] S.... V.... G.... 's (alternative meanings for SVG)

2004-12-30 Thread steltenpower


The logs show #svg (IRC channel) is always very on topic

Scalable Vector Graphics
Stop Viewing Galleries
Special Valuable Gimmicks
Simply Vicious Graphics
So Very Gruesome
Some Vague Grumblings
Strange Vancouver Girls
Scary Vector Groupies
Slightly Variable Globules
Scary Viscious Gnids
Scary Vicious Gnids
Silly Villains Gang
Sticky Velcro Gunk
Sticky Velcro Gecko
Sarcastic Vector Gossip
Starving Vegetarian Graphics
Sleepy Voluble Gnomes
Scary Vicious Gophers
Scandalous Virgin Gropers
Spurn Vector Graphics
Sydney Very Good
Scary Vampiric Group
Salacious Venemous Gimps
Salacious Venomous Gimps
Supa Visual Genie
Scared Virginal Girls
Shiny Vector Gang
Shiny Versatile Gang
Shifty Vicious Gangsters
Soft Vixen Grope
Scientific Virtual Gizmo
Something Very Good
Saint Vitas Gavotte
Seething Volcanic Grotto
Saphenous Vein Graft
Silicon Valley Group
Scrany Venemous Godzillas
Spelling Victim Go
Scrawny Venomous GodzillaÂ's
Super Victorious Gendarmes
Stupid Venal Gripers
Sin Victoria, Golpe
Such Vapid Gunk
So Very Geek
Si Vengo, Guerra
Seriously Verklempt Goyim
Sic Veni Gaullii
So Very Good
Spaghetti Vermicelli Goulash
Simplex Virus Genome
Stunning Voltage Generator
Special Valentine Girls
Some Violins Grate
Simple Vellum Glaze
Spluttering Volcanic Geysers
Splendid Victual Gourmands
Sending Virus Gifts
Spam Vulture Garotted
Stir Vat Goop
Stupid Video Game
Sinister Voodoo Gods
Stop Visiting Grandma
Synchrotron Velocity Gradient
So Very Great
Simple, Vigorous, Gratuitous
South Vietnamese General
Sasquatches Venerate Guns
Spirits Visited Geronimo
Superb Visual Galaxy
Stunning Visual Galaxy
Smooth Viable Gesture
Supposed Visual Geeks
Soft Voiced Girls
Smart Vast Gift
Symbolic Vernacular Gobbledegook
Space Vertigo Gravitol
Shiny Vogue Gang
Spreading Vector Graphics
Showing Veterinarily Grouped
Swedes Veto Germans
Spacemen Vanquish Godzilla
Satan Versus God
Structured Visual Garbage
Some Vague Generalizations
Scripting Visual Glitz
Super Venereal Growth
Somehow Vagely Giggly
Seeking Voyage Goal
Strenuously Vigorous Gymnastics
Soup's Very Goopy
Smelly Velveeta Gratings
Sumptuous Velvetine Gloves
Semantic Visual Guerrilla
Sometimes, Violins Grow
Silly Version Game
Super Versatile Goodie
Scary Visual Goods
Super Vertical Giblets
Sufficiently Vague Guesswork
Slimey Viscous Goop
Sleazy Vapid Gigolos
Simpering Victims Gibber
Student Varsity Games
Studying Vegetates Greymatter
Slideshow Vaudeville Gimmicks
Scintillating Vaporous Gases
Simian Visualization Game
Shit Ventilating Gazette
Scandalous Victorious Graphics
Society's Victory' Graphics
Syllabus Vocabulary Grammars
Sylvan Vale Glades
Such Voonderful Germanz
Swaddled Vitals Girded
Small Viagra Gain
Simplistic Vertex Grinding
SS VEE GEE
Somnambulatory Visitational Ghosts
Shiny-Donkey Virtual Group
Sangria Vino Gustable
Sangria Vino Grappa
Sudden Vicious Gardeners
Sodded Vicious Gardeners
Sexy Virgin Groupies
Salacious Vacuous Gibberings
Sexy Vicious Groupies
Semantics Vanquishing Goodie
Semantics Vehicle Graphics
Scalable Vestor Grphics
Scandalous Vestal Gamines
Stunning Vivacious Gorgious
Schepers Vocal Groanings
Sloppy Verb Generation
Stelts Vocal Gymnastics
Sensibility Versus Gates
Superb Victorious Gurus
Subtly Vixenous Goats
So VAT Galls
Stars Venting Gases
Spinnin' Vector Graphics
Scared Vexed Guys
Super Vexed Guys
Sexy Villified Gremlins
Stultifyingly Vexatious Gameplay
Seems Very Generous
Simply Very Good
Seriously Vexed Grandma
Scabrous Villainous Gerontologists
Serengeti Veldt Gnu
Sap Very Gritty
Sleezy Vixen Groping
Spec Volume: Great
Spec Volume: Gigantic
SUPER VEGETABLISED GOLDMINES
STUNTED VERTICAL GROWTH
Swamp Vermin Gathering
Suitably Vertical Gonads
Seeding Vermin Group
Sucky Vietnamese Girl
Sole Void Geeks
Stupid Voided Guarantee
Smelly Volatile Goodie
Serving Violent Gratiously
Simpering Vidiot Gibberish
Simpering Visual Gibberish
Sticky Visible Gumballs
Squishy Victual Gumbo
Submit Viable Gush
Superfluous Vile Goo
Suicidal Venezuelan Gerbils
Subenigmatic Volcanicized Garrilousarianities
Singing Vegitarian Group
Sleazy Vegan Groupies
Spock Vs Grok'Nar'Har'Bar
Salacious Volunteer Gastroenterologists
Slumbering Vixens Get-together
Sickening Verbal Games
Socially Vacant Geeks
Sleep Voluptuary, Gates
Stunning Victory, Globally
See Vectors Go
See Visualizations Go
Spanish Vehículo Gracias
Superbly Varnished Geegaws
Snooty Venerated Gods
Startling Viscious Glee
Schepers Vanished? Gah
Sex Void Geek
Social Virtue Group
Stopping Vallum Gates
Snowwhite Vigilant Gnome
Snowwhite's Vigilant Gnomes
Solar Venus Gap
Singing Vector Group
So Verily Graphical
Schepers' Voluptuous Girl
Schepers' Voluptuous Giraffe
Syntax Ventilating Gorillas
Super Visionary Guys
Super Visionary GuysGalls
Sharks V. Groupers
Sharks Vundus Groupers
Shiny Violet Goby
Shy Venomous Grouper
Some Veritable Gangsters
Several Vapid Groupies
So Valuable Groove
Sexually Varied GangsterHeroes
Schepers' Voluminous Gasping
Serendipetous Voluminous Glokenspiels
Sumac Victory Garden
Sexy Voluptuous 

[svg-developers] trying to animate scale(x_ratio) ('3D'-rotation around x=0,'z'=0)

2004-12-29 Thread steltenpower


Cause you can write 2005 as something symmetrical i want to 'rotate'
it: http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2005.svg
But it doesn't move at all :-(

What am i overlooking?

Just in case you don't even see the static thing, i'll try some
ASCII-art:

---  ---  ---  ---
  |  | |  | |  |
---  | |  | |  ---
|| |  | ||
---  ---  ---  ---

PS: I know i should change it into SVG Fonts eventually.





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[svg-developers] Re: trying to animate scale(x_ratio) ('3D'-rotation around x=0,'z'=0)

2004-12-29 Thread steltenpower


So all i missed was the semi-colon in between couples of controlpoints
in keySplines=   ;

thanks Heiko


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Niemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Hi Ruud,
 
 if you use keyTimes and keySplines together you need to define a
set 
 of bezier control points for each interval.
 
 - if you have keyTimes=0;.6;1 that's two intervals so keySplines 
 would be e.g. keySplines= .7,.1,.2,.9 ; .5,.7,.3,.3 
 
 - if you don't use keyTimes you can use just one bezier function 
 that controls the pacing for the whole animation
 
 modified sample:
 ...
 values=1,-1; 0,0; 1,-1
 calcMode=spline
 keyTimes=0;.5;1
 keySplines=.7,.3,.2,1;.818,.5,.9,.9
 ...
 
 Regards-
 -Heiko
 
 
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, steltenpower [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
  Cause you can write 2005 as something symmetrical i want 
 to 'rotate'
  it: http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/2005.svg
  But it doesn't move at all :-(
  
  What am i overlooking?
  
  Just in case you don't even see the static thing, i'll try some
  ASCII-art:
  
  ---  ---  ---  ---
|  | |  | |  |
  ---  | |  | |  ---
  || |  | ||
  ---  ---  ---  ---
  
  PS: I know i should change it into SVG Fonts eventually.





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[svg-developers] SVG wallpaper contest (KDE) with prizes

2004-12-19 Thread steltenpower


http://www.kde-look.org/news/index.php?id=145

of course put a subtle you're looking at Scalable Vector Graphics
message in there :-)





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[svg-developers] Re: Anybody seen a dartboard in SVG?

2004-11-07 Thread steltenpower


http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/darts.php has one.

an adapted version at
http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/darts.php?board=points doesn't seem to
work :-(

anybody?





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[svg-developers] Re: Anybody seen a dartboard in SVG?

2004-11-07 Thread steltenpower


I thought the tripple 20 would be almost white rgb(240,240,240), and
the scale (right side of the board) would go from rgb(0,0,0) to rgb
(240,240,240) (maybe but hopefully not with increments of rgb(4,4,4) )

 It still isn't fully what it should be, but now at least i have
visual feedback

 http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/darts.php?board=points





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[svg-developers] digital alarm clock

2004-11-07 Thread steltenpower


http://svgopen.steltenpower.com/countdown.php

dynamic stuff is not working yet, so it's stuck at 88:88 atm :-(

it's build out of LED representations.





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