[svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Jim Ley

"Vernari-Corami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> I don't remember exactly but the loop:
>
> for (var k in MyObject)
>alert(k + "=" MyObject[k]);
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> doesn't work everytime in JScript, while in Rhino does...

What's myObject?  if it's a script created one, they're identical, if it's a 
Host Object - all bets are off, if you like that for debugging - just use 
mozilla as your dev platform and it'll work just fine, no need to have the 
extra attributes.

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread ronan
This is all really starting to illustrate how competing patchy
approaches... How does kde handle it? What about ksvg2png? What about
ImageMagick? What about Zoomon and Bitflash???

What will we do when we start to try to render to desktop AND mobile with
the same content? and are we satisfied building content around a plugin
that can't generate paper output to save its life?

For now, the solution is probably to build towards the one main target
client we choose, and to grab those great signs from our past...

"Sorry, this website only runs on Internet Explorer 3, and you appear to
be using Mozilla 7. We recommend you upgrade to Internet Explorer 3 if you
want to use this site"

...It brings back fond memories...

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>> Hi Ronan,
>> it's true and not...
>> In fact I declare the Adobe's ext just to be sure to have the Rhino
>> engine...
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> but there's no point doing this (although it does no harm) what it
> actually
> achieves is that your IE users are getting a slower experience than they
> could be.
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Vernari-Corami
Interesting the performance on IE
I guess we had in the past a short chat about it...I only like very very much the 
Object treatment that Rhino does...As far I know it's the only thing I've found 
heavily different between JScript and "Javascript" (Rhino)...
Nothing more...
Cheers
Mario
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  > Hi Ronan,
  > it's true and not...
  > In fact I declare the Adobe's ext just to be sure to have the Rhino 
  > engine...

  but there's no point doing this (although it does no harm) what it actually 
  achieves is that your IE users are getting a slower experience than they 
  could be.

  Jim. 





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[svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Jim Ley

"Vernari-Corami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Hi Ronan,
> it's true and not...
> In fact I declare the Adobe's ext just to be sure to have the Rhino 
> engine...

but there's no point doing this (although it does no harm) what it actually 
achieves is that your IE users are getting a slower experience than they 
could be.

Jim. 





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[svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Jim Ley

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> But you are limiting yourself to Adobe:
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> xmlns:a3="http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/3.0/

That actuslly does absolutely nothing at all...

> It does not render on mozilla 0.8 with native SVG.

Well it does use SMIL and parseXML, so it's not too surprising.I spent 5 
minutes with my parseXML proxy and some other bits and I couldn't get it to 
obviously work, the biggest problems appear to be with the ID handling - it 
can't find the ID of foreign namespace elements (correctly) but it seems to 
not be finding it of SVG ones created from parse XML either, I've not looked 
further than that though.

I'm sure it'd could be got to work without the SMIL.

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Robin Berjon
Jim Ley wrote:
> "vernarim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>>I've posted a small demo of a photo-album...
>>Feedbacks are appreciated, of course!
>>http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg
> 
> Interesting, looks good, nice use of custom namespace'd XML for easy 
> authoring.

It is indeed very nice (and could be made nicer if there were a way to 
put it on automatic mode).

A few technical problems:

  - you're using an old DTD, just delete the entire DOCTYPE and you'll 
be much better off.

  - you haven't declared the SVG namespace or the XLink namespace: you 
really should, some viewers will (rightly) reject the document otherwise.

  - when you create your own vocabulary, you can just put the elements 
in your namespace, you don't have to put the attributes on them in the 
namespace as well. I suggest just dropping the namespace on them.

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Vernari-Corami

Hi Jim, thanks for your comments...
I didn't about the jpeg rendering in ASV...to tell the truth, I usually prefer PNG 
'cos it's lossless but small at sametime...(and supports transparency)

No, the photos aren't rendered correctly if they aren't at the correct size...that's 
because I've just posted a malfunction(?) or some unexpected behavior...
I've tried to call a SVG file (as image) from the album and within this one there is 
the real image...in that case I may scale, fit and whatever else not thinking how the 
album are instantiated...

MmmmI may try to embed the raster pic as base64 instead a external link to a 
file...

Cheers
Mario

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  > Hi everybody...
  > I've posted a small demo of a photo-album...
  > Feedbacks are appreciated, of course!
  >http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg

  Interesting, looks good, nice use of custom namespace'd XML for easy 
  authoring.  It looks though that each photo needs to be the same size?

  This reminds me of something Jerold Maddox talked about - why SVG wasn't 
  used more for photo albums, ASV's jpeg rendering is many orders of magnitude 
  better than the normal HTML user agents.

  Cheers,

  Jim. 





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[svg-developers] Re: Photoalbum demo

2004-09-29 Thread Jim Ley

"vernarim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Hi everybody...
> I've posted a small demo of a photo-album...
> Feedbacks are appreciated, of course!
>http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg

Interesting, looks good, nice use of custom namespace'd XML for easy 
authoring.  It looks though that each photo needs to be the same size?

This reminds me of something Jerold Maddox talked about - why SVG wasn't 
used more for photo albums, ASV's jpeg rendering is many orders of magnitude 
better than the normal HTML user agents.

Cheers,

Jim. 





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