[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
To close the loop on this, back in December 2008 I did write a Webkit Bugzilla report and just today I got the word that they fixed the bug, 25 months later! https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14242 I haven't downloaded the lastest nightly build yet, so haven't confirmed it. Ken Nellis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@... wrote: Thanx to Andreas and Frank for their helpful responses and apologies for my second post appealing for help on the same subject. Frank, I followed up on your idea that applying font-size directly as text element attributes rather than in style attributes. This worked to a point: I could control the text size in Safari down to 0.3pt (if I recall correctly), but this was still too big, but if I made the size any smaller, Safari would ignore my specification and generate the huge text. Andreas, your JavaScript solution is creativeand works in all browsers I tested, even Mac/IE 5.2.3but I think it points out that the real solution is for the program that generates these SVG files to specify the coordinates on a higher-resolution grid so that I can specify font-size in a higher unit count. Do you think this is worthy of a Webkit Bugzilla report? Ken - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:49:18 +0100, Frank Bruder redu...@yahoo.de wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: I wonder if a 2nd pair of eyes might see a problem with my SVG code in this page: http://mysite.verizon.net/nellisks/svg/kakuro/wp.07-10-28.svg Safari 3.2.1 with ASV3 and Firefox 3.0.4 and Camino 1.6.5 render the Kakuro puzzle as desired, but Safari w/out ASV3 renders impossibly large text, just as did Opera 9.25. The current version of Opera (9.62) renders no text at all, unless its positioned outside the window. (This is the one worse thing that I've identified so far about Safari's SVG rendering over ASV's.) —Ken Nellis I've tested it in Squiggle, Apache Batik 1.7, and that looked okay too. There seems nothing to be wrong with your code. I was able to make it work in Opera 9.62 by removing the style element and adding font-size=0.275px fill=white to the containing g element instead. This also is a shorter notation. Using very small fontsizes (1px) is usually troublesome in my experience, in most viewers. I've seen similar problems with pattern when the width or height is small. ... I've encountered the similar problem that setting the font family in a CSS stylesheet didn't work in Opera, whereas using the presentation attribute worked. If you have a testcase showing that please file a bug here: http://bugs.opera.com/wizard. Cheers /Erik -- Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
Thanx to Andreas and Frank for their helpful responses and apologies for my second post appealing for help on the same subject. Frank, I followed up on your idea that applying font-size directly as text element attributes rather than in style attributes. This worked to a point: I could control the text size in Safari down to 0.3pt (if I recall correctly), but this was still too big, but if I made the size any smaller, Safari would ignore my specification and generate the huge text. Andreas, your JavaScript solution is creative—and works in all browsers I tested, even Mac/IE 5.2.3—but I think it points out that the real solution is for the program that generates these SVG files to specify the coordinates on a higher-resolution grid so that I can specify font-size in a higher unit count. Do you think this is worthy of a Webkit Bugzilla report? —Ken - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: I wonder if a 2nd pair of eyes might see a problem with my SVG code in this page: http://mysite.verizon.net/nellisks/svg/kakuro/wp.07-10-28.svg Safari 3.2.1 with ASV3 and Firefox 3.0.4 and Camino 1.6.5 render the Kakuro puzzle as desired, but Safari w/out ASV3 renders impossibly large text, just as did Opera 9.25. The current version of Opera (9.62) renders no text at all, unless its positioned outside the window. (This is the one worse thing that I've identified so far about Safari's SVG rendering over ASV's.) Ken Nellis I've tested it in Squiggle, Apache Batik 1.7, and that looked okay too. There seems nothing to be wrong with your code. I was able to make it work in Opera 9.62 by removing the style element and adding font-size=0.275px fill=white to the containing g element instead. This also is a shorter notation. Interestingly, when instead of using the font-size attribue I declare the font size in the style attribute of the g element, it does not work. So the problem occurs when CSS is used to set the font size, but not with the presentation attribute. I don't see any reason why both notations should not be equivalent in this case. This seems to be a bug in Opera. I've encountered the similar problem that setting the font family in a CSS stylesheet didn't work in Opera, whereas using the presentation attribute worked. Now I'm curious if removing the CSS and using presentation attributes would also make it work in Safari. When CSS is applied to SGML or XML text it makes sense to let the user set a minimum font size, which overwrites author stylesheets, and in a flow layout this would do no harm. Maybe this, in combination with the identification of CSS pixels with current user coordinate units is at the root of Safari's problem. If that's the case, then it might be avoided by using presentation attributes, assuming these are not internally translated to CSS and handled by the CSS engine. Regards Frank - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: I wonder if a 2nd pair of eyes might see a problem with my SVG code in this page: http://mysite.verizon.net/nellisks/svg/kakuro/wp.07-10-28.svg Safari 3.2.1 with ASV3 and Firefox 3.0.4 and Camino 1.6.5 render the Kakuro puzzle as desired, but Safari w/out ASV3 renders impossibly large text, just as did Opera 9.25. The current version of Opera (9.62) renders no text at all, unless its positioned outside the window. (This is the one worse thing that I've identified so far about Safari's SVG rendering over ASV's.) Ken Nellis On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:06 PM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@... neumannandreas Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:15 pm (PST) yes, it is also my impression that some things are better and some are worse. But Webkit is under active development while ASV is dead. Also, all in all, performance in Webkit and browser integration is good. I agree that there are still some bugs. I encourage you to report the bugs at https://bugs.webkit.org/ Webkit is also important since it is also used in Google Chrome, iPhone, Konqueror, Adobe Air (I think they deactivated SVG on purpose) and other browsers/devices. Thanks, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Hi, from my experience the Webkits have a problem rendering sizes which are less then 1 - font-size, image with/height etc. It doesn't matter for them what the final size on the page is, what counts for that problem is the initial declaration. I wrote a small script to do the dirty work for you if you just replace the relevant part of your code with the following code, also note I ad px to the font size or else in most browsers you'll end up with the default font size of the browser. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=yes? !-- Created Sun Dec 21 13:21:04 2008 by make_kakuro_svg -- svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; version=1.1 viewBox=-50 -50 1100 1100 onload=scaleAllNums() script//![CDATA[ function numnum(it) { return /\d/.test(String(it)) it*1==it }; function scaleAllNums(){ var all = document.getElementsByTagName ('*'); for(var i=0, allL=all.length; iallL; i++){ var atts = all.item(i).attributes for(var j=0, attsL=atts.length; jattsL; j++){ var att = atts.item(j) if(numnum(att.value))all.item (i).setAttributeNS(null, att.name, att.value*100) } } } //]]/script titleKakuro Puzzle/title defs style type=text/css text {font-size: 27px; fill: white} /style - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
You forgot Nokia S60 handsets which are the biggest group of devices sold at the moment. http://veikoh.wordpress.com --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net wrote: From: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:15 AM yes, it is also my impression that some things are better and some are worse. But Webkit is under active development while ASV is dead. Also, all in all, performance in Webkit and browser integration is good. I agree that there are still some bugs. I encourage you to report the bugs at https://bugs.webkit.org/ Webkit is also important since it is also used in Google Chrome, iPhone, Konqueror, Adobe Air (I think they deactivated SVG on purpose) and other browsers/devices. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Thanx, Andreas. I did download and play with the latest nightly WebKit build. My few SMIL things worked fine and so does View Source! Compared with ASV3, certain other things work better and certain other things work worse. I seem to have a text problem, that may be my own problem, but it works fine with ASV3 and Firefox3, so I had assumed I had coded it correctly. —Ken On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:48 AM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@... neumannandreas Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:02 pm (PST) Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
I wonder if a 2nd pair of eyes might see a problem with my SVG code in this page: http://mysite.verizon.net/nellisks/svg/kakuro/wp.07-10-28.svg Safari 3.2.1 with ASV3 and Firefox 3.0.4 and Camino 1.6.5 render the Kakuro puzzle as desired, but Safari w/out ASV3 renders impossibly large text, just as did Opera 9.25. The current version of Opera (9.62) renders no text at all, unless its positioned outside the window. (This is the one worse thing that I've identified so far about Safari's SVG rendering over ASV's.) Ken Nellis On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:06 PM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net neumannandreas Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:15 pm (PST) yes, it is also my impression that some things are better and some are worse. But Webkit is under active development while ASV is dead. Also, all in all, performance in Webkit and browser integration is good. I agree that there are still some bugs. I encourage you to report the bugs at https://bugs.webkit.org/ Webkit is also important since it is also used in Google Chrome, iPhone, Konqueror, Adobe Air (I think they deactivated SVG on purpose) and other browsers/devices. Thanks, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
Thanx, Andreas. I did download and play with the latest nightly WebKit build. My few SMIL things worked fine and so does View Source! Compared with ASV3, certain other things work better and certain other things work worse. I seem to have a text problem, that may be my own problem, but it works fine with ASV3 and Firefox3, so I had assumed I had coded it correctly. Ken On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:48 AM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net neumannandreas Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:02 pm (PST) Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
yes, it is also my impression that some things are better and some are worse. But Webkit is under active development while ASV is dead. Also, all in all, performance in Webkit and browser integration is good. I agree that there are still some bugs. I encourage you to report the bugs at https://bugs.webkit.org/ Webkit is also important since it is also used in Google Chrome, iPhone, Konqueror, Adobe Air (I think they deactivated SVG on purpose) and other browsers/devices. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Thanx, Andreas. I did download and play with the latest nightly WebKit build. My few SMIL things worked fine and so does View Source! Compared with ASV3, certain other things work better and certain other things work worse. I seem to have a text problem, that may be my own problem, but it works fine with ASV3 and Firefox3, so I had assumed I had coded it correctly. Ken On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:48 AM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@... neumannandreas Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:02 pm (PST) Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: In my experiment, I removed ASV and then relaunched Safari to see what worked. SMIL didn't. I reinstalled ASV and SMIL worked again. So, I conclude that Safari doesn't do SMIL. Or is something else going on Ken Nellis On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:09 PM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: hm - why do you want to use ASV with Safari? Safari (Webkit) can do SVG natively. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@ wrote: Since I've updated to Safari 3.2.1 (Macintosh), I can no longer see SVG source through the context-sensitive menu option View Source. I'm using the ASV 3.0 plugin. The menu option is there, but is no longer functional. Wondering if anyone else has this problem. As a workaround, I can select Copy SVG, and then paste the results into a text editor. Ken Nellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
In my experiment, I removed ASV and then relaunched Safari to see what worked. SMIL didn't. I reinstalled ASV and SMIL worked again. So, I conclude that Safari doesn't do SMIL. Or is something else going on Ken Nellis On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:09 PM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: hm - why do you want to use ASV with Safari? Safari (Webkit) can do SVG natively. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Since I've updated to Safari 3.2.1 (Macintosh), I can no longer see SVG source through the context-sensitive menu option View Source. I'm using the ASV 3.0 plugin. The menu option is there, but is no longer functional. Wondering if anyone else has this problem. As a workaround, I can select Copy SVG, and then paste the results into a text editor. Ken Nellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
Kenneth Nellis wrote: In my experiment, I removed ASV and then relaunched Safari to see what worked. SMIL didn't. I reinstalled ASV and SMIL worked again. So, I conclude that Safari doesn't do SMIL. Or is something else going on That is true. Safari does not yet support SMIL. It seems to be on its way fairly soon though. Both Google Chrome and Safari are based, at least in part, on WebKit. WebKit's nightly builds, we are told, now support SMIL, though I'm not sure how fully. David - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
hm - why do you want to use ASV with Safari? Safari (Webkit) can do SVG natively. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Since I've updated to Safari 3.2.1 (Macintosh), I can no longer see SVG source through the context-sensitive menu option View Source. I'm using the ASV 3.0 plugin. The menu option is there, but is no longer functional. Wondering if anyone else has this problem. As a workaround, I can select Copy SVG, and then paste the results into a text editor. Ken Nellis - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/