Re: [svg-developers] Re: What alternatives to ASV for IE6/7 ?
Hi With TinyLine to web, you will define your website to use TinyLine applet when showing the SVG. The sample code is here: I found it most easyest way to deliver SVG content over the web. On mobiles, it's will be more complicated. My problem was, that most of the SVG players didn't played my animation clips anyway. Even TinyLine ones, but Andrew finally fixed the bug in positioning and sizing calculations for me, so I'm ready to go with his drivers. My actual article about my experiences testing my animations against different players: http://veikoh.wordpress.com/2007/04/21/svg-animated-movies/ Veiko --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Veiko, > > svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote on 06/08/2007 > 02:42:34 PM: > > > Many thaanks for the suggestion...I hadn't > considered a Java > > applet...however, because our SVG is generated on > the client-side > > using XML data islands and JavaScript, I'm going > to assume that would > > require quite a lot of re-work for our existing > SVG-based applications. > >How do your SVG applications access the local > XML? Are they > local SVG files? > > > I guess what I'm looking / hoping for was a > straight plugin > > switch...from ASV to some other. But maybe there > really isn't a > > viable alternative. > >If you just need a container to run the SVG with > JavaScript, > Batik (also Java) might be considered. It wouldn't > run in a > Browser it would be a separate app (you actually > could run > Batik in a browser as an applet but it's a bit big > for that). > >Batik is a bit stricter on what it accepts for > SVG/EcmaScript > but I think it implements just about everything ASV > did. > > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, veiko herne > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > As I didn't find Renesis yet working properly, > maybe > > > you should test Tinyline www.tinyline.com ones? > Those > > > are Java applets and should work with any Java > enabled > > > browser. > > > > > > Veiko > > > http://veikoh.wordpress.com > > > > > > --- Paul Wirdnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I work for a large multi-national corporation > that > > > > has standardized on > > > > a IE-based desktop, so switching browers to > one with > > > > native SVG > > > > support is not an option. > > > > > > > > But we also have to mitigate ourselves from > the > > > > Adobe SVG Viewer going > > > > out of support from 1-Jan-2008. We've looked > at the > > > > Renesis plug-in, > > > > but what other options do we have if we want > to stay > > > > with SVG and IE? > > > > > > > > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side > XML data > > > > islands...in case > > > > that makes any difference to available > options. > > > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -or- > > > > visit > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers > > > > and click "edit my membership" > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > > > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with > AutoCheck > > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers > and click "edit my membership" > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: What alternatives to ASV for IE6/7 ?
Paul, Check out the possibility of using the Mozilla ActiveX control in IE to display SVG. The ActiveX control uses the full Mozilla/Firefox rendering engine, so it supports the same level of SVG as Firefox does. The control is packaged as part of the Mozilla XUL Runner project and can be downloaded from here: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/1.8.1.3/contrib/win32/ Note, that currently, the control is not enabled to work "out-of-the-box" with IE, but I have a small patch on my website that enables it: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2006/12/xule-what-if/ More here: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/01/mozilla-activex-control/ In the Firefox3 timeframe, the ActiveX control will be enabled for use in IE by default and, if registered, will automatically handle displaying SVG resources in IE. Just click on an SVG link or navigate to an SVG URL and the Mozilla control will take over rendering the content. XULRunner Alpha6 (end of June 07) should be the first version with the IE/SVG support turned on (no patches needed). If you decide to take a look, let me know how things go, Mark Finkle --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wirdnam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I work for a large multi-national corporation that has standardized on > a IE-based desktop, so switching browers to one with native SVG > support is not an option. > > But we also have to mitigate ourselves from the Adobe SVG Viewer going > out of support from 1-Jan-2008. We've looked at the Renesis plug-in, > but what other options do we have if we want to stay with SVG and IE? > > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side XML data islands...in case > that makes any difference to available options. > > Please help! > - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: What alternatives to ASV for IE6/7 ?
Hi Veiko, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote on 06/08/2007 02:42:34 PM: > Many thaanks for the suggestion...I hadn't considered a Java > applet...however, because our SVG is generated on the client-side > using XML data islands and JavaScript, I'm going to assume that would > require quite a lot of re-work for our existing SVG-based applications. How do your SVG applications access the local XML? Are they local SVG files? > I guess what I'm looking / hoping for was a straight plugin > switch...from ASV to some other. But maybe there really isn't a > viable alternative. If you just need a container to run the SVG with JavaScript, Batik (also Java) might be considered. It wouldn't run in a Browser it would be a separate app (you actually could run Batik in a browser as an applet but it's a bit big for that). Batik is a bit stricter on what it accepts for SVG/EcmaScript but I think it implements just about everything ASV did. > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, veiko herne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Paul > > > > As I didn't find Renesis yet working properly, maybe > > you should test Tinyline www.tinyline.com ones? Those > > are Java applets and should work with any Java enabled > > browser. > > > > Veiko > > http://veikoh.wordpress.com > > > > --- Paul Wirdnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I work for a large multi-national corporation that > > > has standardized on > > > a IE-based desktop, so switching browers to one with > > > native SVG > > > support is not an option. > > > > > > But we also have to mitigate ourselves from the > > > Adobe SVG Viewer going > > > out of support from 1-Jan-2008. We've looked at the > > > Renesis plug-in, > > > but what other options do we have if we want to stay > > > with SVG and IE? > > > > > > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side XML data > > > islands...in case > > > that makes any difference to available options. > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -or- > > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers > > > and click "edit my membership" > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html > > > - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: What alternatives to ASV for IE6/7 ?
Hi Veiko, Many thaanks for the suggestion...I hadn't considered a Java applet...however, because our SVG is generated on the client-side using XML data islands and JavaScript, I'm going to assume that would require quite a lot of re-work for our existing SVG-based applications. I guess what I'm looking / hoping for was a straight plugin switch...from ASV to some other. But maybe there really isn't a viable alternative. Thanks Paul UK --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, veiko herne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Paul > > As I didn't find Renesis yet working properly, maybe > you should test Tinyline www.tinyline.com ones? Those > are Java applets and should work with any Java enabled > browser. > > Veiko > http://veikoh.wordpress.com > > --- Paul Wirdnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I work for a large multi-national corporation that > > has standardized on > > a IE-based desktop, so switching browers to one with > > native SVG > > support is not an option. > > > > But we also have to mitigate ourselves from the > > Adobe SVG Viewer going > > out of support from 1-Jan-2008. We've looked at the > > Renesis plug-in, > > but what other options do we have if we want to stay > > with SVG and IE? > > > > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side XML data > > islands...in case > > that makes any difference to available options. > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers > > and click "edit my membership" > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > ___ > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html > - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: What alternatives to ASV for IE6/7 ?
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wirdnam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side XML data islands...in case > that makes any difference to available options. If this is true, you seem to be pretty fluent with SVG and from the first three points you make, you seem to be well aware of the rendering engines/platform situation. Working for a large multi-national corporation, It would seem natural to address Microsoft direclty urging for a native SVG implementation, but in turn Microsoft could respond to that request by the magic word "Why not use Silverlight?". Is this what you wanted to hear? One thing is certain, you do work for a large multi-national corporation... Domenico Strazzullo. > > I work for a large multi-national corporation that has standardized on > a IE-based desktop, so switching browers to one with native SVG > support is not an option. > > But we also have to mitigate ourselves from the Adobe SVG Viewer going > out of support from 1-Jan-2008. We've looked at the Renesis plug-in, > but what other options do we have if we want to stay with SVG and IE? > > BTW: we're generating SVG using client-side XML data islands...in case > that makes any difference to available options. > > Please help! > - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
