Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Jim Leonard wrote: >I plan on sniping: [snip] >Origin Times of Lore BRAND NEW Ready to Bid >Origin Tangled Tales BRAND NEW NEVER OPENED! Ready to Bid And you said you weren't to bid on RPGs? :) Anyway, I won't be bidding on anything from him for the two reasons I mentioned in the other mail. Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] "So long, and thanks for all the fish" Jim Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/11/01 19:02 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices I plan on sniping: Sirtech Seven Spirits of Ra BRAND NEW Ready to Bid Cinemaware Rocket Ranger NEW Ready to Bid Sierra Dynamix Willy Beamish RARE CD VERSION Ready to Bid Sierra King's Quest 2 - RARE ORIGINAL BOX Ready to Bid Sierra Championship Boxing BRAND NEW Ready to Bid Access Martian Memorandum BRAND NEW Ready to Bid Access Mean Streets BRAND NEW Ready to Bid Electronic Arts Marble Madness Ready to Bid Origin Times of Lore BRAND NEW Ready to Bid Origin Tangled Tales BRAND NEW NEVER OPENED! Ready to Bid Broderbund Operation Clean Streets BRAND NEW I will be bidding very seriously for the Access and Sierra Boxing titles; the rest I am only so-so on. You all have been warned! :-) "C.E. Forman" wrote: > > Watch for my snipes on some of his Infocom and Sierra items... but please > don't let that stop you from bidding yourself! > > - Original Message - > From: Jim Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:12 AM > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices > > Excellent, excellent info, thank you!!! > > Of course, what code of honor do we follow here? :-) As a courtesy, I > am going to set up some snipes and I'll tell you guys what I'm sniping. > It's probably nothing you guys are interested in, as I am a non-RPG nut. > > Alexander Zöller wrote: > > > > BadBen has caved in, currently lists most of his inventory on eBay for > $9.99 > > apiece (badben1), mostly RPGs, some interesting. Guess he didn't exactly > > sell a lot of items for the prices he initially asked ;-) > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.o
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Alexander, if you win the shrinked copy of Silver Seed and decide to "get rid" of one unshrinked one, please let me know. (Also, OT, Tom, mail mails aren't getting through to you again) Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] "So long, and thanks for all the fish" Alexander Zoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/11/01 21:14 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices >> Was the CD version of Willy Beamish a talkie? If so you may have just >> gotten some competitiion and no lying now! :-) > > Well, the last time I saw this on eBay it fetched something like $250. > That's wayyy higher than it's worth, but this is still highly sought > after. True, but the actual 'going rate' seems to be lower (spotted a boxed talkie that went for $45 a couple of months ago). Adventures seem to react even more strongly to sudden demand than RPGs. The best example is probably Duckman, which peaked at an incredible $275,... and then a bunch of people became aware of this gold mine and flooded the market, so we're down to about $30 at the moment (I know one guy on the GameTZ that made a small fortune that way; he was _the_ source before others caught up). Playing Games Interactive still has a few copies left: http://www.playinggamesinteractive.com/item.html?PRID=988178 BadBen: I'm considering to snipe The Silver Seed, and also the GT Software release of U6, as I need shrinked copies of both. /Alexander -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
I'd like to, but the only copy I have is a European slipcased version in BAD shape. Will let you know when I find a better one. /Alexander -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Pedro Quaresma boldly stated: > >Jim Leonard wrote: > >>I plan on sniping: >[snip] >>Origin Times of Lore BRAND NEW Ready to Bid >>Origin Tangled Tales BRAND NEW NEVER OPENED! Ready to Bid Why did you guys have to go do this? I have *no* money to spend, but now I'm interested in his UFO, Global Conquest, and Modem Wars. Argh! I suspect they'll go for more than I want to pay, so don't worry about bidding against me, if I do bid. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > Jim Leonard wrote: > > >I plan on sniping: > [snip] > >Origin Times of Lore BRAND NEW Ready to Bid > >Origin Tangled Tales BRAND NEW NEVER OPENED! Ready to Bid > > And you said you weren't to bid on RPGs? :) I'm not bidding on these too seriously. The Times of Lore I'm bidding on more seriously than the Tangled Tales. > Anyway, I won't be bidding on anything from him for the two reasons I > mentioned in the other mail. Go ahead!! Geez -- I have my own price for these things so it's not like I'm going to be mad if you outbid me. I'm not claiming "dibs" on these, just letting you guys know what I'm planning on sniping on. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] New SKUs
I went to my local Wal-Mart today and dropped by the software aisle. My internal reaction went something like this: Gah!!! What are these?!? Are these PC games??? [Picks one up.] Yeah, I guess they are. They shrank! The boxes are about the size of DVD movies, but two or three times thicker. They're still cardboard boxes, though, not DVD-style plastic cases. I presume they still have the same ol', plastic CD cases inside. I'd heard some talk about the software game industry standardizing their boxes a year or two ago, but didn't realize a decision had been made. So will I start seeing all games coming out in this packaging from now on? (If it's not a budget, bare CD case, that is.) Or is this primarily some new requirement that some of the big stores (like Wal-Mart) are imposing on companies if they want them to stock their games? Regardless, I'd guess the effect would be for all companies to start selling all their games in these boxes because it would be prohibitive to print two different styles of each box. So, now the Infogrames and Hasbro Interactive releases of the same (Atari) games are different for more than just the HI logo changing to Infogrames. Do I have to collect both versions? 8) On the bright side, the smaller versions of Pac-Man: Adventures in Time and Revenge of Arcade are about $5-10 cheaper. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Instant messaging skillz
For those who care, I've just added myself to ICQ, AIM, and Yahoo IM. You should be able to look me up via email address or via "MobyGamer". Sorry for the global email, but it seems as if everyone has been trying to instant-message me lately. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it with a passion. I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html "Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > I went to my local Wal-Mart today and dropped by the software aisle. > My internal reaction went something like this: > > Gah!!! What are these?!? Are these PC games??? [Picks one > up.] Yeah, I guess they are. They shrank! > > The boxes are about the size of DVD movies, but two or three times > thicker. They're still cardboard boxes, though, not DVD-style plastic > cases. I presume they still have the same ol', plastic CD cases > inside. > > I'd heard some talk about the software game industry standardizing > their boxes a year or two ago, but didn't realize a decision had been > made. So will I start seeing all games coming out in this packaging > from now on? (If it's not a budget, bare CD case, that is.) Or is > this primarily some new requirement that some of the big stores (like > Wal-Mart) are imposing on companies if they want them to stock their > games? Regardless, I'd guess the effect would be for all companies to > start selling all their games in these boxes because it would be > prohibitive to print two different styles of each box. > > So, now the Infogrames and Hasbro Interactive releases of the same > (Atari) games are different for more than just the HI logo changing to > Infogrames. Do I have to collect both versions? 8) On the bright > side, the smaller versions of Pac-Man: Adventures in Time and Revenge > of Arcade are about $5-10 cheaper. > > -- > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it >with a passion. > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short (comparatively). 8) I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came out. But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a game just to have both box "variations"? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Yes, but that speaks more to the pathetic lack of physical media that comes with today's games. I no longer have the same anticipation when picking up a title these days. All but gone are the neat extras, the elaborate manuals, the cool maps, the trinkets, the stack of advertising, the catalogs. Case in point -- Thief I came bundled with my former video card. It included the manual in electronic format. I liked the game so much that I bought a retail version just so I could support the company and get the extras. Aside from a trapezoidal box the "extras" consisted of a 3 by 5" keyboard map and a 15 page manual inserted into the jewel case. Oh yes, there was a registration card and a 4 page "catalog". I HATE THAT! "Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > Jim Leonard boldly stated: > > > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it > >with a passion. > > > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html > > I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short > (comparatively). 8) > > I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. > Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box > with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big > waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten > the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came > out. > > But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a > game just to have both box "variations"? > > -- > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. I don't have a problem with smaller boxes, but it's the lack of extra materials that depresses me. No more will we find anything inside a package except a CD case. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
I will buy a couple just to have a personal record of when the switch to standarized boxes took place. However, I'll probably buy them once they hit the bargain bins. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it >with a passion. > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short (comparatively). 8) I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came out. But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a game just to have both box "variations"? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
There's always the special collector's editions of games that come out fairly regularly now. Diablo II, Ultima IX and Civ III (just picked that one up) all had one. Hugh -Original Message- From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Yes, but that speaks more to the pathetic lack of physical media that comes with today's games. I no longer have the same anticipation when picking up a title these days. All but gone are the neat extras, the elaborate manuals, the cool maps, the trinkets, the stack of advertising, the catalogs. Case in point -- Thief I came bundled with my former video card. It included the manual in electronic format. I liked the game so much that I bought a retail version just so I could support the company and get the extras. Aside from a trapezoidal box the "extras" consisted of a 3 by 5" keyboard map and a 15 page manual inserted into the jewel case. Oh yes, there was a registration card and a 4 page "catalog". I HATE THAT! "Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > Jim Leonard boldly stated: > > > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it > >with a passion. > > > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html > > I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short > (comparatively). 8) > > I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. > Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box > with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big > waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten > the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came > out. > > But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a > game just to have both box "variations"? > > -- > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Yes, but why should this be restricted to limited editions? I think it should be the norm, as it once was. I think this paucity of physical components falls under the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). It's another way to generate revenue. Am I being too harsh here? Hugh Falk wrote: > There's always the special collector's editions of games that come out > fairly regularly now. Diablo II, Ultima IX and Civ III (just picked that > one up) all had one. > > Hugh > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs > > Yes, but that speaks more to the pathetic lack of physical media that comes > with > today's games. I no longer have the same anticipation when picking up a > title > these days. All but gone are the neat extras, the elaborate manuals, the > cool > maps, the trinkets, the stack of advertising, the catalogs. > > Case in point -- Thief I came bundled with my former video card. It included > the > manual in electronic format. I liked the game so much that I bought a retail > version just so I could support the company and get the extras. Aside from a > trapezoidal box the "extras" consisted of a 3 by 5" keyboard map and a 15 > page > manual inserted into the jewel case. Oh yes, there was a registration card > and a 4 > page "catalog". > > I HATE THAT! > > "Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > > Jim Leonard boldly stated: > > > > > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it > > >with a passion. > > > > > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: > > >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html > > > > I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short > > (comparatively). 8) > > > > I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. > > Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box > > with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big > > waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten > > the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came > > out. > > > > But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a > > game just to have both box "variations"? > > > > -- > > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ > >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie > >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > > > -- > > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Yeah, I hate when you HAVE to buy a strategy guide to get what should be in the manual in the first place...that is really lame and not right. However, I generally find that the best strategy guides are available for free on the net...so I don't buy the official ones any more. As for saving all the doo-dads for limited editionsI'm okay with that. Not thrilled, but okay. Sure, I'd like it more if they came standard. But I also understand that most people aren't like me (that is Joe Consumer). When faced with the choice of paying $10 more for doodads, Joe Consumer usually buys the cheaper version. The game companies have to make money or the games won't get produced. If this strategy works and keeps the games coming, I'm for it. I still get the goodies...when I'm willing to pay for them. Again, kind of like a toll road. Hugh -Original Message- From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Yes, but why should this be restricted to limited editions? I think it should be the norm, as it once was. I think this paucity of physical components falls under the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). It's another way to generate revenue. Am I being too harsh here? Hugh Falk wrote: > There's always the special collector's editions of games that come out > fairly regularly now. Diablo II, Ultima IX and Civ III (just picked that > one up) all had one. > > Hugh > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs > > Yes, but that speaks more to the pathetic lack of physical media that comes > with > today's games. I no longer have the same anticipation when picking up a > title > these days. All but gone are the neat extras, the elaborate manuals, the > cool > maps, the trinkets, the stack of advertising, the catalogs. > > Case in point -- Thief I came bundled with my former video card. It included > the > manual in electronic format. I liked the game so much that I bought a retail > version just so I could support the company and get the extras. Aside from a > trapezoidal box the "extras" consisted of a 3 by 5" keyboard map and a 15 > page > manual inserted into the jewel case. Oh yes, there was a registration card > and a 4 > page "catalog". > > I HATE THAT! > > "Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > > Jim Leonard boldly stated: > > > > > >Welcome to the wonderful world of new packaging standards. I hate it > > >with a passion. > > > > > >I started a thread on this as soon as I heard about it last year: > > >http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/msg00258.html > > > > I'd forgotten about that discussion. I guess 'cause it was so short > > (comparatively). 8) > > > > I'm not fond of the standardization, but I do welcome smaller boxes. > > Let's face it, so many software titles today are nothing but a big box > > with nothing but a CD case and maybe a manual in it. That's a big > > waste of resources. I'm suprised the software industry hasn't gotten > > the flack the recording industry did with CD boxes when CDs first came > > out. > > > > But I'm curious, how many of you guys are going to buy two copies of a > > game just to have both box "variations"? > > > > -- > > Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ > >Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie > >(The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search > > results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) > > > > -- > > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Chris Newman wrote: > > Yes, but why should this be restricted to limited editions? I think it should be > the norm, as it once was. I think this paucity of physical components falls under > the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually > require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). It's another > way to generate revenue. > > Am I being too harsh here? No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a puzzle so "out there" that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the game (my memory is fuzzy, but IIRC you have to catch an elf with a feather and honey, but nowhere is it suggested you even need to capture him in the first place, nor how to do it!). -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
What's odd is that Sierra actually started the trend! I was impressed with Sierra's packaging, especially in their Golden Age of the late 80s to early 90s. Then Outpost happened. Outpost was a bad boggle on several fronts. Version 1 was so bug-ridden that Sierra actually advertised "version 1.5" on their game boxes (which supposedly addressed them); add to it the infuriating manual, and gameplay that was far too cumbersome, and you have a product destined for infamy. That's too bad because I liked the concept, and the visuals. No to knock Sierra too badly, but this was the first step into an age of darkness. Jim Leonard wrote: > Chris Newman wrote: > > > > Yes, but why should this be restricted to limited editions? I think it should be > > the norm, as it once was. I think this paucity of physical components falls under > > the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually > > require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). It's another > > way to generate revenue. > > > > Am I being too harsh here? > > No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start > of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that > were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy > guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a > puzzle so "out there" that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the > game (my memory is fuzzy, but IIRC you have to catch an elf with a > feather and honey, but nowhere is it suggested you even need to capture > him in the first place, nor how to do it!). > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >Chris Newman wrote: >> >> I think this paucity of physical components falls under >> the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually >> require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). >> Am I being too harsh here? > >No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start >of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that >were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy >guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a >puzzle so "out there" that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the >game. I don't know. I think the Babel fish in Hitchhiker just about qualifies. 8) I managed to figure out everything except the final step before I got the hint book. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
Yeah...wow...that just brought back an interesting memory for me... Ma Bell had been broken up just long enough that the major competition (Sprint, MCI, ATT) were all giving away whatever they could afford to get your business. They would constantly try to one up each other. I switched a few times just to get the benefits. Shoot...AT&T was giving you $50...not $50 credit...a check for $50 to sign with them with no obligation to stay. Anyway, Sprint had a promotion -- sign with them and get 2 free Sierra games. One game immediately and another after 4 months (I think). The first game I took was Outpost. At least I didn't have to pay for it! I don't remember the second game...I may have switched again by then (and I certainly didn't want another game the quality of Outpost). Hugh -Original Message- From: Chris Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs What's odd is that Sierra actually started the trend! I was impressed with Sierra's packaging, especially in their Golden Age of the late 80s to early 90s. Then Outpost happened. Outpost was a bad boggle on several fronts. Version 1 was so bug-ridden that Sierra actually advertised "version 1.5" on their game boxes (which supposedly addressed them); add to it the infuriating manual, and gameplay that was far too cumbersome, and you have a product destined for infamy. That's too bad because I liked the concept, and the visuals. No to knock Sierra too badly, but this was the first step into an age of darkness. Jim Leonard wrote: > Chris Newman wrote: > > > > Yes, but why should this be restricted to limited editions? I think it should be > > the norm, as it once was. I think this paucity of physical components falls under > > the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually > > require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). It's another > > way to generate revenue. > > > > Am I being too harsh here? > > No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start > of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that > were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy > guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a > puzzle so "out there" that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the > game (my memory is fuzzy, but IIRC you have to catch an elf with a > feather and honey, but nowhere is it suggested you even need to capture > him in the first place, nor how to do it!). > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] New SKUs
That's one I figured out on my own. I didn't find HHGG as difficult as other Infocoms...but plenty of other games stumped me...the first stumper I remember was my first Adventure game...Scott Adams' Pirate Adventure on the TI-99/4a. I couldn't figure out how to get past the alligator without a hint book...wow lots of nostalgia for me today. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New SKUs Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >Chris Newman wrote: >> >> I think this paucity of physical components falls under >> the same category as companies releasing barebones documentation to virtually >> require that the player buys the strategy guide (aka real manual). >> Am I being too harsh here? > >No, you're being quite accurate. Many consider Outpost to be the start >of this downfall; the manual blatantly omits pieces of information that >were necessary to play the game -- only to be included in the strategy >guide. Personally, I consider it to be King's Quest V, which included a >puzzle so "out there" that you *had* to buy the hint book to win the >game. I don't know. I think the Babel fish in Hitchhiker just about qualifies. 8) I managed to figure out everything except the final step before I got the hint book. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an "a", if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
