RE: [SWCollect] Hee hee...
I dont think hes confused... maybe a tad delusional though... This item is apparently the rarest game in existence Steve From: Freddie Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Hee hee... It sells for $10 - $25 now. The original non-Infocom version of the game just sold for $250+ on eBay and this seller is a bit confused as to what he has. Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org
RE: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming
Ive only ever played the SMS version... how does it compare to the originals? Parker Bros did do a good job with the SMS conversion of Kings Quest (except that Graham seemed to only move one of his legs...). Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming In a message dated 06/03/2004 9:18:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to chime in on this one too. I've played it for at least 3 different platforms (Apple, Atari and C64 I believe). I love all of them :) Though I find myself playing the C64 version (emulated) these days (along with H.E.R.O.). Suddenly I find all the 2600/5200 carts I loved going through my head (Hall of the Mountain King, Robot Tank, Enduro, H.E.R.O., Dreadnaught Factor). I was going to collect Montezuma for awhile. Stopped after 2600 and SMS versions. I think there is a Colecovision too, and various computer platforms. Some of the releases have more levels I think. Hey Mountain King was a cool game too!! Tom
RE: [SWCollect] Another one?!
He has a few interesting items. Anyone who needs a small box (GTI) Ultima WoA2: Martian Dreams just watch his auction list. Hes posted quite a few of them, all shrinkwrapped. I got one from him and it was in great shape minus some minor corner damage (a result of the very cheap cardboard GTI used). Overall good service and great packaging, but way overpriced for SH. Steve From: MASTER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedro Quaresma Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another one?! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
RE: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming
I loved this one: Kirk: And you can't pick up an AK-47 and go killhey, those aliens on the top row, you use them in EGM for stuff. EGM: Yeah, we use them to end our articles. They do kinda look like they're from Space Invaders, don't they? Tim: They're going to sue you. Kirk: I'm sure everyone who made this game is dead by now. Thats priceless :p From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming Cute ;) http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,2053,1487038,00.asp
RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III
Youre absolutely right. I would have chimed in on this one but you had it covered ;) The three IBM releases were as follows: 1983 Glossy Box / Blue Print Label 1983 Disk (Old Logo / Exodus Face) 1986 Regular Box / Blue Print Label 1983 Disk (Old Logo / Exodus Face) 1987 Regular Box / Black Print Label 1987 Disk (Old Logo / No Face) IBM Trilogy (Both First Second Editions): 1989 - Black Print Label 1989 Disk (New Logo / Exodus Face) There are other content differences, but that will help determine which disk belongs to which release. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 5:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ultima III In a message dated 05/28/2004 8:41:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. I know there were two variations on the 1983 release, and I knew there was the 'Trilogy' release, but I didn't know there was a 1987 re-release. NP. By two 1983 releases I'm assuming you mean the glossy and dull box games? I think the disks/labels are the same in both of those. As for 1987 release I think it was only done for IBM (Steve correct me on this if I'm wrong) The white label disk/87 version is fairly tough to find. The normal tan cluebook for UIII also has 1983 and 1987 release. Lot of UIII cluebook variations, also the orange books. Tom
RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III
Yeah the Japanese are a tad too enthusiastic when it comes to UO... On average there are 5 different versions of every single expansion pack. Steve From: Freddie Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 4:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III Oh I've seen countless different Japanese Ultima Online versions when looking for other items. -freddie Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org From: Stephen Emond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III LOL, I never really stopped :p UO has been the source of many headaches lately... Ive found localized releases in USA, England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Russia, Japan, China, Korea, and Australia... Dont worry, Ill get through it all eventually ;) Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ultima III In a message dated 05/29/2004 3:24:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Youre absolutely right. I would have chimed in on this one but you had it covered ;) Oh crap, here we go again, that was supposed to go to Steve only :( Oh well Steve, hopefully incentive of having book posted here will get you back on it if you can find time :) TTYL!! Tom
RE: [SWCollect] So obviously Mt. Drash is no longer rare....
Actually Sierra was even worse with recycling Ultima art than that... The UI Original / Mt. Drash cover art was originally used as the back of the Ultima II box. Steve From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] So obviously Mt. Drash is no longer rare The second Drash ended without meeting the reserve. Reserve tends to drive certainprocent of people off which is quite understandable. But the price dropped a bit in any case from former loose cassette auctions once again. And to regard this one was with manual. Though it (probably) wasn't sold now. BTW oddly Drash has SierraVision-logo manual where the game is SierraVenture-series. Maybe they couldn't make their mind which series it belonged to :) (being mainly arcade but has [thin] RPG-elements). (Well, they reused the cover art from Ultima I too for Drash too and it's obvious and known thattoo much attention wasn't given for its production in any case.) Do you know any other games that had this kind of odd mixture of items (Venture/Vision or similar)? Sierra threw leftover material and reprinted what was necessary while selling their titlesduring years, i.e. seems if they had original box and manuals they needed to reprint only the floppies/ref. cards etc. But I'm not referring tothat with the question. Though feel free to make observations from this issue too. - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web: Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI collecting and beyond!
RE: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius
Afraid I cant help on the Aquarius version, but I have a question on the Intellivision version... My copy has a different box (no Mattel Electronics on the front and no UPC on the back). It also has a white label on the cart that says Dungeons Dragons, Treasure of Tarmin but I have seen a blue version of the cart label with ADD instead of just DD. Does the cart that came with the box on your site have the blue label? Any idea which is older / rarer? I also have a bilingual Canadian version of the original ADD on INTV. Steve From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius I was very lucky (at least I think I am; never seen this before here in Finland) to pick ADD Treasure of Tarmin (1983) for the obscure Mattel Aquarius. Here are scans of it: http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_add.html Any idea how rare this really is? Value? (As usual that of course can be anything between zero and infinite depending on buyer/seller, but asking your opinion. Plus I'm not selling, just curious.) This game was originally released for Intellivision as part two of the ADD-games. First part was Cloudy Mountain (as advertisements refered to it; the game itself didn't have an undertitle). So can aynone confirm was the first part ever released for Aquarius? And if it wasn't, what were possible reasons? (Well, Aquarius live a very short life pan but still why did they start with part 2.) At least I haven't seen any pictures/screenshots of that. There was a mentioning in some game list site in addition to Tarmin but they might have just missed the undertitle, or be otherwise false. PS. From the pictures I had thought this Tarmin game box was big (like the usual size), but I suprised how small it was. For some reason the box style resembles some camera box, at least to me :). - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web: Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI collecting and beyond!
RE: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius
Here are links to the scans, feel free to use them on your site if you want to: http://www.falcondesigns.ca/images/add1-canada-b.jpg http://www.falcondesigns.ca/images/add2-alt-f.jpg http://www.falcondesigns.ca/images/add2-alt-b.jpg The Canadian ADD1 is a flip lid box, but Tarmin is not. The Tarmin says Singapore on both the box cart label. (c)1982 TSR / (c)1983 Intellivision. Steve -Original Message- From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius Afraid I can't help on the Aquarius version, but I have a question on the Intellivision version... My copy has a different box (no Mattel Electronics on the front and no UPC on the back). Are you able to scan that one? Front and back. Yours seems to be rarer; all the Tarmin scans I've seen on net are the one I have. Though I suspected there were more versions because the first ADD had several variations too. I'd also be interested to see what the back of the French/Canadian box looks like if you could scan; either style from my page? Is it a flip lid box or a one-piece box? It also has a white label on the cart that says Dungeons Dragons, Treasure of Tarmin Does it say anywhere where this version was printed? It's probably newer release; original ADD has that kind of white label too. My both Tarmin carts are blue Singapore labels. (The other is identical but has kind of square shaped part cut from corners but it's still intact; should show pic, hard to explain. I don't know if this was done by previous owner but it doesn't look quite professionally cut.) The original ADD has at least these box variations (probably even more): - Hong Kong (One-piece Box) - US (Flip Box) - French-Canadian (? Box) - Brazilian (? Box) The labels, manuals and overlays have even more variations. Here is a very good page with pics: http://www.intvfunhouse.com/games/dndc.phtml The Brazilian box front is particularly interesting, because it represents night (check background), where all the other versions are at day. - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web: Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI collecting and beyond! -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius
Thanks for the info... now I just have to hope they still have the original blue label version the next time I go to Cash Converters :p Steve -Original Message- From: Howard Feldman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] ADD Aquarius I think I can answer both questions. Like you, I didnt know Aquarius Tarmin existed until I saw it at CGExpo last summer. Conveniently the Blue Sky Rangers were there, so I asked them about it :) It is not that rare actually, at least not any rarer than Aquarius in general. Anyways, I have searched eBay for it ever since (about 10 months maybe?) and I have seen at least half a dozen complete copies of it (usually with a bunch of other crap though). When it sells on its own, it went for about $20-30 typically if I recall (Id pay about $20 max which is why I dont have it yet... must be patient...) The white label ADD cart, I believe, is released by INTV corp, from the period around 1984 onwards when Mattel was no longer supporting Intellivision. Most INTV games had white cartridge labels. Thus it is just a 'later printing' of the game. Think of it as a Slash re-release :) -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ Visit the Computer and Book RPG Museum at http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com/ Samuel Lunenfeld Research Institute -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Nit-picking at its finest
And that my friends is the exact reason you will never be able to buy a loaf of toast ;) Steve -Original Message- From: Stuart Feldhamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Nit-picking at its finest Let me apply some Talmudic logic here: The general rule is, whensoever A can be converted into B, but B cannot be converted into A, A must be worth at least as much as, if not more than, B. : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Nit-picking at its finest Even with my superior powers of anality, I am unable to answer the following question: Which Wing Commander III filmcan is worth more: With the front circular sticker attached, or not attached (pristine, still on its wax backing, inside the can)? I have the latter, and I'm debating whether or not to attach the sticker to the can (like I found it on my first one). Advice? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say..
Well... if a cassette only Drash averages $800, and a (mostly) complete copy sells for $3605... I'd say the box is worth roughly $2000, and the manual roughly $800. So an imaginary shrinked Drash should fetch at least $50... Put me down for 2 :-P Steve -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say.. I was saving this info for after the Drash sold because I didn't want to ruin things for Edward. I recently picked up a stash of about 50 shrinked Drash's (among other things) from an old Commodore wholesaler. I'll give first dibs to people looking to trade from this list (and you better be offering something impressive). I'm probably going to keep about 5 for myself. The rest will be sold on eBay...one a week until they're gone.* * None of this is true, of course. I just wanted to dramatize Peter's worst nightmare :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. I promise I'll only be such a jerk when a game sells for over 3 grand. :-P Hugh -Original Message- From: Per-Olof Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] I'll be the first to say.. 3605! I'm stunned. I'm happy for Edward of course, but I couldn't dream of it getting that high! In any case, it found a great new home, and most likely it'll be immortalized in print soon.. :) - Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum
The Ultima RPG pen paper project would have used simplified versions of the algorithms used for combat and spell resolution in the Ultima V. It was intended to sell in the same sized box as the computer series and had a projected price of $30. A lot of work was done on the project, but mostly organizational rather than developmental. While it was a project Garriott wanted to do, Origin wasn't willing to schedule it for a release and it eventually got put aside. Do you know anything more about Ultima IV Part II? If you have the article Id love to read it. Steve From: Stephane Racle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum Absolutely right, thanks for catching that! I think it's properly identified on the site. I'm curious about that Ultima pen-and-paper RPG too. Any Ultima collectors have more info? I'm guessing it never went anywhere. That reminds me of another article I read a while ago about an Ultima IV Part II that was supposed to be released prior to Ultima V. Another project that was cancelled? Hugh Falk wrote: Quick correctionthats CGF #1, not CGW #1. I havent read that since 87great stuff! I forgot about the Epyx/Data East Suit. World Karate Championship and Karate Champ are hardly similar. Theyre as similar as any other two karate games. I wonder what became of the suitobviously didnt set much of a precedent for infringement so Im guessing it was dismissed. Also, did that Ultima pen-and-paper RPG ever see the light of day? Hugh
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Yup, $765 is kinda pricey. Anyone have $100 and a time machine? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3064724973category=3544 I'll let you all have a moment of silence to kick yourselves... Steve PS - As for the NEW owner of the Drash I do believe I saw him around here somewhere... - Original Message - From: Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Software Collectibles Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value Urgle. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemitem=3068542018category=3545rd=1 Now we have a whopping two data points ;-) for just the cassette. $865 and $765. Trying to estimate or guesstimate the price of the complete game is making my head hurt. I'm still stuck in the mindset that $250 for a complete game is an insane amount. So, to revisit a discussion, how do the rest of you try to estimate the market value of these types of games? What would, say, the first release of Zork -- the PDP-11 version -- be worth? This is really the hard part of being a dealer of collectibles. What is your thought process in determining the market value of a collectible? -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
Don't worry Tom, I saved a copy (just too funny not to). It's saved as a Web Archive (MHT) file, which includes all pictures, etc. Speaking of Canadian pennies THEY will be rare soon... They cost 2 cents each to make so the Canadian Mint isgoing to get ridof them in favor of new threenies (or some other horrible name). Three cent coins... not sure what's worse, that or the upcoming $5 coins :( Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: [SWCollect] My RARE!!! auction I ended it a few hours early to avoid joke being played on ME, getting stuck with final value fees ;) If someone has acrobat or some other way of saving the auction for me could you do it please? Would be nice to have a record of it. I did save the actual RARE item for history, if anyone actually wanted it let me know :)By the way Steve, I was going to lower the starting bid to a CANADIAN penny/peso for ya but never got around to it, sorry ;)Thanks,TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] When did you discover ebay?
I beat all of you - Apr 5, 1997 :) I think I signed up to bid on a completeUltima VI. Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:29 AM Subject: [SWCollect] When did you "discover" ebay? Just curious, I first signed up May 17 1997, how about you? :)Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Vintage games w/fatal flaws
Veramocor was the word of passage for the Codex chamber at the bottom of the Abyss. It's right before it asks you the virtue questions and infinity. I had the same problem with veramocor... I completely forgot the clues from the Lycaeum, Empath Abbey Serpent's Hold. I think it gives you three guesses and then kicks you out of the Abyss. That was evil... Steve - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Vintage games w/fatal flaws Jim Leonard wrote: I'd have to throw in my entering the words of "Truth, Love and Courage" in the wrong order after spending 2.5 hours getting to the bottom of a certain 8-level dungeon to get the Codex of Infinite Wisdom just to be kicked back to the surface. Augh! (Its "corveramo" , no "veramocor" :)Which Ultima game was that?OK let's see if my memory doesn't betray me (again!) It was Ultima 4, but "veramocor" was the word used to get into the final dungeon, not the word to be used in the end of it. In the end, the word "infinity" had to be used (after the principles and its virtues), but if you typed the wrong word you'd get kicked back to the surface. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. It's been quite some time since I played Ultima 4.--Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information DivisionAdministração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492)Toyota Prius '01, Verdi Steel, 37K km.ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Onlinehttp://www.toyota.pt
Re: [SWCollect] Electronic Arts Joystick Adapter?
Sounds like the EA Sports 4-Way Play adaptor for Sega Genesis. It was sold separately and was used for most of their sports games from about 1994 on. Stephen - Original Message - From: C.E. Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Software Collectibles Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Electronic Arts Joystick Adapter? Hey gang, I have a small black device here, sort of hexagonal, that has two female 9-pin joystick ports on the back, and four male 9-pins on the front. In the middle of the male ports are the Electronic Arts name and logo (cube, sphere, pyramid). I found it connects to my Commodore 64. Tried Atari 2600 which uses the same kind of connector but the ports on the console are too far apart. Guessing it's either a joystick coupler (for dual-stick games like Robotron) or a four-player adapter. Anybody know if this was sold individually or with a particular game? Worth anything? I can try making a scan if that will help. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Drash in Droves
Well I know of yours (complete), Tom's (missing box reg card), Edward's (missing reg card), the one from the auction (cassette only), one that was the source for a cassette image that popped up a few months back, two I can't really discuss, and another two that are quite possible but unconfirmed. I'm sure there are more out there somewhere but they certainly don't turn up very often - it's been a big week :) Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Drash in Droves Rarities seem to pull each other out of hiding, especially if the first gets a high bid on eBay. :-D Jeez I hope it ends here.though I am curious just how many Drashs are out there. What are we talking now? 3 confirmed including mine? Perhaps the guy will sell it privately, though I have my doubts since he claims to be conducting research with auction results. Pt! -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Hello!
Josh, All I have to say is welcome and... drool... I know it goes without saying but AMAZING find! Congratulations :) Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Hello! I just subscribed (thank you Chris for making me aware of this group). Just wanted to extend a Hello to all the members and introduce the latest addition to my collection. Enjoy! Best regards, Josh
Re: [SWCollect] Hello!
I can actually answer this one... If you look at the unfolded card on Tom's page you can see the discoloration at the top of the light side (where the title is). When the card is closed along the horizontal fold the top section overhangs, leaving that sectionexposed. Steve - Original Message - From: C.E. Forman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Hello! Welcome aboard, Josh! Now that all the confirmedDrash owners are in one place, I was curious about something. I notice from the pics on Tom's page -- http://members.aol.com/barbgame/Drash/drash.html-- your instruction cover (with "The Game" on it) doesn't have the Ultima: EFMD title above it.Josh, is yoursa different type of card, or is it the white card shown on Tom's page tucked inside it? (God, I can't imagine there'd be any Mt Drash *variations*!) Fortran, feel free to chime in, we all know you've got one too. B-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Hello! I just subscribed (thank you Chris for making me aware of this group). Just wanted to extend a Hello to all the members and introduce the latest addition to my collection. Enjoy! Best regards, Josh
Re: [SWCollect] Dang, is the book something special?
OMG! I'm hoping it's the book since I have it (and the second edition... and two versions of the third edition...). I DON'T however have that particular KQ Collection. I'm glad the Sierra collections are valuable, I just wish they'd refrain from hitting insane prices until *after* I get them all :) Steve - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Dang, is the book something special? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3045965082category=27251 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ebay trader experiences
I bought from them once (not on eBay but from their website). It was a *supposedly* new shrinkwrapped FM-Towns Ultima VI. I opened it up only to find the CD was missing :( To their credit they offered a refund or to send me another game that I was interested in. Not the worst buying experience I've had, but I wouldn't count on any of their shrinkwrapped stuff being new or even complete. Steve - Original Message - From: Stefan Lindblom To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ebay trader experiences Thanks for all the feedback guys, highly appreciated. I guess I was expecting to hear just positive things about them but I guess I feel a bit relieved now that I know they aren't any saints. This whole reshrinking thing is a very nasty business. I mean, I am not as great as some of you are in spotting differences in the wrap. Looking to the left of me at my bookshelf however, I do notice that the wrap on my goldbox games seems to differ from each other. I assume that is a bad sign. And... the last thing I would do with a game is to unwrap it. Maybe stupid but.. I am sorry to hear about your bad experiences with them Tom, had I known about them before this I dont think I would have bought anything from them. Oh well, at least I know better now and wont trade with them again. But tell me Tom, I didn't see you among their bad feedbacks, I checked them before today. I assume you got a refund or something and some kind of apology from them? Isnt reshrinking and selling things claiming them to be new fraud? They could of course claim they didn't know anything about it.. but still... sounds like serious fraud to me. /Stefan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ebay trader experiences SWM have been around for a long time. They are two people, Tony and Paula. They run a small shop out in CA and apparently have a warehouse of older software. They also get some of it fromat least one supplier, though I've never gotten them to divulge any details. For awhile the biggest problem with them was the question of whether their shrinked items were original or rewraps. One of their suppliers put reshrinks on used games, and SWM at the time didn't fully understand the collector market.And they were in a bit of a position, they couldn't just ask their supplier to stop reshrinking because known originals were more valuable, or they'd get their prices raised. They weren't alwaysterribly good at identifying reshrinks and I think disappointed a lot of collectors, though, to be fair, they did take the reshrinks back and offer refunds. They still use a system of "rating" the wrap: D=definitely new, P=probably new, something like that, which I've never understood: If you're not certain, open it and take the loss if there is one. I did a column article on them (just explaining allthis so collectors would know, nothing like my counterfeiter pieces) which got them a bit upset, but I also gave them advice on how to spot reshrinks, and I still buy from them today occasionally. I've always had good service, never rude responses from them. I was kind of surprised to hear they'd been rude to you. - Original Message - From: Stefan Lindblom To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Ebay trader experiences Ahoy mates! Just curious about a certain trader on Ebay who seems to be alot into vintage games, with over a 1000 feedbacks. The traders Ebay name and mailadress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I was just wondering if any of you have had any experiences with him/her/them.. and if so, what they are? The reason I ask.. well, I won a few of their auctions, including a high prized SSI one. I was outbid on one however, but was approached later by them asking if I wanted to pay my highest bid for another copy they had. My highest bid was more than double the listed starting price so I asked if we could come an agreement with would mean a 7$(from 32$ to 25$)cut in my offer. Listing price was 15$ so I thought that was a fair offer. No risks for them, no time waiting, and no ebay fees. I got a very short and rude reply. Surely more than one of you guys have dealt with them before.. what have your experiences been? /Stefan, wearing out the hangover in front of comp
Re: [SWCollect] Software collecting videos
RG is on the Ultima Collection CD. There are also other RG / U9 related movies that were included with various magazine cover discs. If anyone's dying to know which I'll flip through them... Steve - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Software collecting videos - There's a VHS tape in the game Daemonsgate, no idea if it has any promotional video or not. - I believe there are some Richard Garriott videos in the Ultima 9 Dragon Edition CDs? At least one of him explaining the Virtues --Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information DivisionAdministração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492)"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." - Albert Einstein Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: [SWCollect] Software collecting videos Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-02-2003 23:39 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Origin Museum wrote: 1. Direct Sale from EA--This was the FULL package, obtainable only via mail-order. This included the game (in the film canister), the music CD, the VHS video, the T-Shirt, the 'Behind The Screens' CD, and the 1995 Wing Commander calendar. This version came in a BROWN Cardboard Mailing Box, with the extras packaged OUTSIDE the canister...there was NO 'game box' for this version.Small change of subject: Does anyone here have this VHS tape? I am not goingto beg for a copy, but I wanted to tell you guys that in the next few months Iam going to finally start another DVD video project, this one an effort topreserve video relevant to software collectors, and I have contacts who arewilling to lend me their copies of the Sierra promotional tapes of the late1980s for it. Also scheduled was the "making of" Wing Commander VHS tape,which is why I bring it up because I don't have a copy.The DVD produced by the project would be sold a few bucks above cost (probablythrough CustomFlix so that I don't have to deal with fullfillment). The goalof the project would be to:- Professionally dump the video in 4:2:2 for proper mastering to DVD's 4:2:0(no cheap DV conversions)- Clean up the video (remove noise, color correction, exposure/white levelcorrection)- Clean up the audio (remove noise, remaster audio (game soundtracks) whereappropriate)- Author to DVD with simple menu and chapter points- Professional-grade MPEG-2 encodingAll of this was done for MindCandy so I already have the tools and knowledge. The scope of this project was "behind the scenes" and/or "making-of" videos --inside trivia stuff that any collector would drool over. So, so far, I canonly think of four:- Sierra promo videos (1989 and 1990 I believe I have contacts for, were thereany more?)- 7th Guest "making-of" bundled with early versions (I have this)- Wing Commander VHS tape (I do not have this)Can anyone think of any more?(Also: There are some CDROM videos that may fall into this scope, like theKen Roberta interview snippets on CDROM bundled with the Robert Williamscollection, and I can remember a Robert Williams promo interview on some CDROMgaming multimedia magazine that was popular in the mid 1990s, but I haven'tdecided on including those yet. I can make crappy AVIs look pretty damn goodthrough motion vectoring tricks, but I was only going to include them if theoriginal sources had been lost.)-- http://www.MobyGames.com/The world's most comprehensive gaming database project.--This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed tothe swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect'Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Onlinehttp://www.toyota.pt
Re: [SWCollect] Software collecting videos
- Original Message - From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have another Origin promotional tape, that was distributed to software stores circa 1989. They are cheaply made advertisements for old Origin games like Windwalker, Knights of Legend, 2400 AD, and another (no Ultima tho.) They were obviously made 'in-house', and they are not the best-produced commercials that I've ever seen, but they are an interesting look at the birth of computer game advertising. Again, if you get the permissions, I'd be glad to contribute! :) Who would I talk to about that? EA or someone else? EA hadn't purchased Origin by that time. -- Unfortunately when EA bought Origin out they also got the rights to all of their older titles. So one way or another you will likely have to deal with EA directly for permission... Steve -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Thanks for the help with LotL
My lips are shrinkwrapped ;) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Thanks for the help with LotL In a message dated 01/29/2003 11:50:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, it's time for the MobyPool! The enigma to be decoded is Tom's age. Hehe, not really fair as two people who post here know the answer. But I DO NOT AUTHORIZE THEM TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION ;)
Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE!
Heehee, I didn't know anyone else here appreciated Wacky Packages ;) I have a whole bunch of them in a box somewhere... Steve - Original Message - From: Chris Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! I live on Long Island actually (New York). I'd REALLY like to go, as I'm very curious to see the faces behind the e-mails (except, of course, for Jim now that he sufficiently scared me by his totally unwarranted appearance on the MindCandy DVD) but I doubt I could make it. I have a new baby, and it's not easy to get a babysitter for an overnight. This get-together idea is a good thing to nurture. I visit the Wacky Packages (another of my hobbies -- remember the 70s phenomenon of Wacky Packages stickers? http://www.wackypacks.net ) forum over on Delphi and they have get togethers constantly. It adds a new level of friendship and allows for a greater scope in the topics of the forum (because they know each other) and it's fun to read the back-and-forth exchanges. Origin Museum wrote: Well, Well, WellThis could be turning into a real party! Philly Classic it IS, then! We've got 4 so far (C.E., Stuart, Joe +Paula)...anyone else wanna meet up? Chris Newman--don't you live in the Jersey area? Paula and I will each bring a few items to show...I hope everyone else does the same! Show and tell in Philadelphia! :) It's not too late! If you want to join us, post soon! Joe C.E. Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE!Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:16:06 -0600 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I could take that Monday off instead. LMK how this works for everyone else. - Original Message - From: Stuart Feldhamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! Um...any chance we can do this on the Sunday of Philly Classic as opposed to Saturday? Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! *snip* If I can get the Friday before off, I'm definitely planning to do Philly Classic this year. Dragon*Con is out, as I've already made plans with a visiting German buddy for the CGE in Vegas that month. If you can make Philly, LMK if there's anything I can bring that you'd like to see. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at:
Re: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE!
I'd love to go, just expensive to fly anywhere from Canada :( If I *could* go though I think I know one thing I could bring... http://members.shaw.ca/cmdrfalcon/u3bg.jpg If anyone here can read Japanese we could even play ;) Steve - Original Message - From: Feldhamer, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: RE: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! Yeah, I sort of feel the same way...what could I possibly bring that the people on this list haven't already seen??? Personal Software Zork? IBM King's Quest? Adventure in Serenia? Microsoft Adventure? Large box Ultima 2? I have a lot of rarer newer titles but you guys seem much more interested in the older stuff. Stuart -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! I'll be there for some part of each of the three days. Though I can't imagine what I'd bring. Nothing I have is exceptionally rare or unusual (to the people on this list). I've seen C.E.'s want list and I can honestly say I've never heard of most of them. Come to think of it, how did you come up w/that list? You played most of them? Research? Filling in entire series? -Original Message- From: Origin Museum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! Well, Well, WellThis could be turning into a real party! Philly Classic it IS, then! We've got 4 so far (C.E., Stuart, Joe +Paula)...anyone else wanna meet up? Chris Newman--don't you live in the Jersey area? Paula and I will each bring a few items to show...I hope everyone else does the same! Show and tell in Philadelphia! :) It's not too late! If you want to join us, post soon! Joe C.E. Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE!Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:16:06 -0600 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I could take that Monday off instead. LMK how this works for everyone else. - Original Message - From: Stuart Feldhamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! Um...any chance we can do this on the Sunday of Philly Classic as opposed to Saturday? Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] New topic--Collectors UNITE! *snip* If I can get the Friday before off, I'm definitely planning to do Philly Classic this year. Dragon*Con is out, as I've already made plans with a visiting German buddy for the CGE in Vegas that month. If you can make Philly, LMK if there's anything I can bring that you'd like to see. - - This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ - - This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available
Re: [SWCollect] Obsessions....
Hi everyone, some of you may know me already... for those who don't I'm a huge game fan who's #1 gaming obsession is Ultima :) I've been a member of the group for a little while now but haven't posted yet since I didn't have too much useful insight to add to previous threads. That being said, there were actually 10 Runes of Virtues for Ultima VI... besides the eight virtues there were also Infinity Singularity. As to their fates, I'd love to know as well... If I recall correctly the lucky winners didn't actually have to send them back to Origin, merely submit a photo of themselves with the rune. So some may still be out there... Drawings of them can be found in the "Star in Ultima VII" contest insert with some copies of U6. As for the top of my most wanted listed... that'd have tobe an original Akalabeth for the same reason as you Pedro, it is the origin of an amazing legacy... Although not quiteRG's first game. For that reason I'd also have to add "Number 1" to my list, but hey any of RG's 28 pre-Akalabeth Teletype games would be cool ;) Steve (aka: Falcon) - Original Message - From: Pedro Quaresma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Obsessions Joe Garrity wrote: *Origin Audio CD Volume 1--ACQUIRED! I found this quite by accident in an old used software store. The female-asian manager referrs to me as 'That Origin Guy', and she's nice enough to hold things for me. She handed it to me, and said,"I know this isn't a game, but it said Origin on it--you can have it for 5 dollars."--I searched for this one for well over a year, and sent at least 30 different emails on it, only to have it fall in my lap! :)This is one of mine too, I'd even say top spot. :) Vol. 2 used to be another obsession but I managed to acquire it last year. Others are:*Ultima 6 virtue runestones -- the special trinket on U6 that, if returned to Origin, would grant you the right to star in Ultima 7. Only 8 copies alledgedly exist (one per virtue). As far as I know the location of none is known. Joe, do you have any insight on this matter? :) *Ultima 6 10th anniversary edition -- Being the most special version of my favorite game, it's on my no-hurries-I-will-get-one-eventually list along with U2 big box ;) *Akalabeth -- I have no desire whatsoever of acquiring a Mt Drash (it's not a Lord British game, so not really an Ultima IMHO) but Garriott's first game is on my wanted list. Then there are heaps of other special editions of games I like, like the Compuserve Daggerfall, the Arena Deluxe Edition, the Darklands Master Edition, etcetc--Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information DivisionAdministração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492)"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." - Albert EinsteinToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Onlinehttp://www.toyota.pt