Re: [swinog] Environnemental monitoring

2008-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Kirill Ponazdyr
 Hi SwiNOGers !

 We're looking here in my company to do some extra environmental
 monitoring. We're mainly looking for some temperature, air flow and AC
voltage monitoring.

 We don't really want to invest in expensive solutions like APC's one, or
Rittal. The sensorProbe products (from either AKCP or BlackBox) are
quite interesting.

 And you, what do you have in your datacenters ? Any hints to some other
good products ?

 Have a nice day!

 -olivier

Oliver,

For temperature it all depends on how many positions you wish to monitor,
perhaps the cheapest (In terms of time plus cost) is solution which is
offered by Distrelec, look it up on their site, it has article number
866230. For about 420.- CHF you will get a little box capable with 4
sensors which are accesable via SNMP.

If you need more than that, you will ether need a serious appliance or do
it yourself. If you decide to DIY, RS232 is your friend.

With solutions like this: http://www.phanderson.com/ you could monitor
almost unlimited number of temperature and humidity positions but BE
CAREFUL with the bus length, we have run into some serious issues near
high powered cables.

You can also easily monitor any kind of relays based sensors just by
connecting the RX and TX of RS232 to relays ends and periodically checking
port for echos, this way stuff like reading out smoke detectors with
relays modules or water sensor (2 naked cables separated by paper) are
peanuts to do.

It is also possible to check for airflow this way, you could construct the
little relays which bends over and connects while airflow is present and
opens up when it is not. This needs a space with STRONG airflow to be
consistent though.

A/C voltage is an interesting one, I was looking for a while for some kind
of energy meter which would allow readout of info via RS232, so we could
measure real power consumption vs load ratio but I could not find any.
Easiest way to do this stuff is to read out UPS ratios, most smart UPSes
support that in one or another way.

You can read all info and present it via SNMP for later analysis, we use
net-snmp with embeded perl, I can send you sample of our module if you
wish, it is fairly simple.

I would be very interested by ideas regarding detailed airflow readout, it
was always interesting me but I could not find any easy solution, only
those big weather stations which I could not install into any of out
airpipes.

Cheers

-- 
Kirill Ponazdyr
Technical Director
Codeangels Solutions GmbH
Tel: +41 (0)43 844 90 10
Fax: +41 (0)43 844 90 12
http://www.codeangels.ch
http://www.codeangels.com








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Re: [swinog] Environnemental monitoring

2008-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Olivier Beytrison

Thanks all for your inputs.

We're rather looking for some kind of blackbox where you just have to 
plug the sensors, and you can poll the datas over snmp.


We don't really have time for the DIY stuff :)

I think I'll go with the AKCP solution, seems to be the best solution 
with the widest range of sensors, which are extensible up to 300m.


@Kirill

With AKCP products, you have an AC sensor wich monitor the AC voltage. 
Our idea is to check if a power line fails. We already have alarms if 
our PSU fails, but you can't tell if it's a PSU failure, or the whole 
power line which is down.


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Re: [swinog] Environnemental monitoring

2008-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Olivier Beytrison

Actually, there's a sad story :

Last year, while I was a student here, I made a thermal monitoring 
sensor on an embedded micro-processor. It worked like a charm (with snmp 
integration and all the stuff). Unfortunately it's not yet 100% working 
(especially on the hardware side). And the professor who was in charge 
of this project don't want to bring it back to life at the moment.


We went through big troubles last week because of a critical failure of 
our air conditioning installation and we don't want to wait 6 month to 
have some monitoring up and running ;-)


I would love to do it myself, but I just don't have the time for it.

Marc SCHAEFER a écrit :

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:02:46AM +0200, Olivier Beytrison wrote:

We don't really have time for the DIY stuff :)


Ask a student:


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