Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE65 - Gva? + HELP-ME PLs !

2008-08-26 Thread Eric Serra
Hello Steven, The drink is certainly a good idea - once in a while you might 
get one organise in Geneva... Could you pls let me know if I should post the 
sort of question below to all user in purpose to get help? I'm not yet too sure 
of what swinog is made for... Question: I have a lot of difficulties for 
sending e-mails nowaday as my private e-mail account is considered as being a 
spam. I can't write to yahoo.com, to bluewin.ch or vtxnet.ch for example, as 
most of the time, my e-mails are rejected. I have never issue any spams in my 
life, but maybe someone as been using my account in this purpose me knowing? Is 
this possible? Anyhow, how can I get out of the spammers central list ? Thanks, 
Eric PS: we can talk on the phone if necessary - 0763766945


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE65 - Gva? + HELP-ME PLs !

2008-08-26 Thread Steven Glogger
hi eric

well...it's not up to me to organize stuff in geneva ,-) unfortunately 
i'm not that often in geneva...
everyone can organize a beer event. it's not me having that 
beer-event(TM)(C)(R)-label attached to my shirt ,-)
just organize one and send out a mail to the mailing list.
as far as i remember some guys from geneva and region have organized 
some beer events ... but i would have to crawl into the deep of my 
mail-archive to seek for those who've organized this.

for you second thing: the mail-spam-blacklist-filter-whatever-thing 
you've mentioned i have to tell you that i'm not doing any mail support 
,-) this is pure 1st level customercare troubleshooting stuff which 
somehow does not belongs to this mailinglist (my opinion?).
specially if there are just too few informations (typical 1st level 
problem).
but to help you a little bit:
- examine you mail infrastructure
- check the headers of the mail WHY it was blacklisted/filtered 
out/tagged/whatever (you'll notice that sometimes there are very useful 
informations in such a mail header. if you don't know what is a mail 
header.. well..you're on the wrong list ,-))
- check the ip address of your MTA if it's blacklisted and why (it might 
be that you MTA is abused for spamming... then putting that into a black 
list is for me ok ;-))
- if you don't operate your own mail infrastructure then contact the 
support dpt. of your provider providing this wonderful mail service
- etc...

greetings

-steven

Eric Serra wrote:
> Hello Steven, The drink is certainly a good idea - once in a while you might 
> get one organise in Geneva... Could you pls let me know if I should post the 
> sort of question below to all user in purpose to get help? I'm not yet too 
> sure of what swinog is made for... Question: I have a lot of difficulties for 
> sending e-mails nowaday as my private e-mail account is considered as being a 
> spam. I can't write to yahoo.com, to bluewin.ch or vtxnet.ch for example, as 
> most of the time, my e-mails are rejected. I have never issue any spams in my 
> life, but maybe someone as been using my account in this purpose me knowing? 
> Is this possible? Anyhow, how can I get out of the spammers central list ? 
> Thanks, Eric PS: we can talk on the phone if necessary - 0763766945
>
>
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE65 - Gva? + HELP-ME PLs !

2008-08-26 Thread Steven Glogger
sorry, forgot something ,-)

"I'm not yet too sure of what swinog is made for..."

well.. have you checked out the wonderful website providing this 
information? check out http://www.swinog.ch

* The purpose of SwiNOG is to further improve the quality of
  Internet and other IP-based services available in Switzerland.
* SwiNOG fosters the exchange of ideas and information between
  technical personnel involved with designing or operating parts of
  the Swiss Internet.
* SwiNOG is non-political, and is not a lobby group. But it may
  serve as a focus for discussion on technical aspects of political,
  legal or commercial issues that effect the Swiss Internet.
* SwiNOG is aimed at technical personnel working for Service
  Providers active in Switzerland, but it is open to anyone
  interested in furthering the SwiNOG goals. Subscription to the
  mailing list constitutes 'membership' of SwiNOG.
* SwiNOG is not a legal entity. There is no formal membership or
  organisation, and no fees.
* The principle channels for information exchange are the mailing
  list, web sites, and regular meetings every 3-4 months.
* SwiNOG is a communal effort. Resources such as mailing lists, web
  sites, meeting organisation and so on are very welcome from any
  persons or companies kind enough to offer them.
* The working languages are any official Swiss language plus English

greetings

-steven


Eric Serra wrote:
> Hello Steven, The drink is certainly a good idea - once in a while you might 
> get one organise in Geneva... Could you pls let me know if I should post the 
> sort of question below to all user in purpose to get help? I'm not yet too 
> sure of what swinog is made for... Question: I have a lot of difficulties for 
> sending e-mails nowaday as my private e-mail account is considered as being a 
> spam. I can't write to yahoo.com, to bluewin.ch or vtxnet.ch for example, as 
> most of the time, my e-mails are rejected. I have never issue any spams in my 
> life, but maybe someone as been using my account in this purpose me knowing? 
> Is this possible? Anyhow, how can I get out of the spammers central list ? 
> Thanks, Eric PS: we can talk on the phone if necessary - 0763766945
>
>
>   
> 
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[swinog] xDSL sandbox?

2008-08-26 Thread Beat Vontobel
Hi everybody on Swinog,

some time ago I once again had to help out some friends with the setup  
of their new ADSL connection (the kind of private support favour  
probably most of you on this list also get asked for over and over  
again by relatives and friends). Just after I connected a laptop to  
the LAN-port of their router that needed to be set up, I got this mail  
in the inbox:

> Received: from Sandbox Mail Server
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: *
> Precedence: bulk
> Message-ID: *
> Subject: Support Information
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Date: Thu, ** ***  **:**:** -
>
> Lieber Kunde
>
> Der Benutzername (Beispiel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ihres Internet-Anschlusses  
> ist nicht korrekt.
> Bitte überprüfen Sie den eingegebenen Benutzernamen im Router/Modem  
> oder wenden Sie sich an Ihren Internetanbieter.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> Ihr Internetanbieter

[* used to overwrite some info from the original mail, containing user  
names and other things I don't want to share]

Now, this seems like a helpful feature at first - but the thing that  
bothers me is that the provider of the sandbox actually "hijacks" (I  
didn't check it out in detail, but maybe through a DNS server with a  
wildcard entry or directly on the TCP/IP level, it doesn't matter how)  
outgoing connections for various services and redirects them to their  
servers.

While I think this is okay maybe for HTTP to display a helpful message  
in the browser, I don't like somebody to "provide" other services (as  
POP3, SMTP, FTP, HTTPS, whatever) and be able to happily log provided  
user/password information (yes, I know, everybody should just use  
encrypted connections, always check certificates and never supply a  
password in plain-text to any service -- but we all know that's not  
the reality).

Admittedly, I may seem a little bit too paranoid here, but still I'd  
just like to know who operates these sandbox machines: Is it the  
individual providers or Swisscom? What's the policy for this service?  
What protocols/services are hijacked? Do the connections get logged  
somehow?

What do you think? Or is there somebody on the list who's responsible  
for or at least knows more about these sandbox machines? Just  
wonder... :)

Regards,
Beat Vontobel
MeteoNews AG



P.S.: This is my first post to the list. I was following it for quite  
some time now, mostly to stay up-to-date on Swiss network issues, as I  
too often had to debug issues outside of our own network, when our  
customers (we provide weather data and services) had connectivity  
issues. But things are really much more relaxed now, since we finally  
operate our own AS44238 and are no longer dependent on one single  
provider... of course, now it might just be me and myself who mess  
things up -- but then I should also be able to fix it myself instead  
of just have to wait until a NOC somewhere fixes a stupid routing  
issue... So much for a short introduction. :)
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[swinog] Cisco HWIC-3G-GSM

2008-08-26 Thread Chris Gravell
Hoi,

Does anyone have any direct experience with this WIC with any GSM provider's 
(Sunrise, Orange, Swisscom et al.) in Switzerland?

I want to use this card as dial-backup to a WAN connection (Serial, DSL 
etc). So far I have it working with Sunrise and Orange depending on the 
(APN) Access Point Name and Profile.

However, none of the APN provisioned by the GSM Providers'/ available for 
their SIM's feature what I really require. Those being:

1. Publically assigned IP

2. Static IP (Dynamic will work too - intend to create a DMVPN tunnel to 
backhaul one providers' IP range over the GSM providers' IP network and 
DMVPN will do this even where the "spoke" or GSM interface is dynamically 
assigned)

3. No NAT/PAT in the GSM provider's network (i.e. some APN assign a private 
IP to the GSM interface and NAT this at the edge of the GSM provider's 
network)

4. Permit ALL IP protocols (NO firewalling along the path - some GSM 
provider's permit only http, ftp etc)

Sunrise and Orange support similar options but not all. Does anyone know if 
Swisscom or another provider might offer an APN product that accommodates 
all requirements as a solution?

This cisco WIC only came out last year so info is relatively thin on the 
ground. The configuration is trivial but the hard part is finding a GSM 
Provider that will treat this as a viable backup solution for business' and 
not just a cut down version/ poor man's IP connectivity for mobile phones.

Any ideas, tips or tricks welcomed.

Thanks,

Chris Gravell


 

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Re: [swinog] Cisco HWIC-3G-GSM

2008-08-26 Thread Silvan Gebhardt

as far as I remember,

try using sunrise with, what I preferred, is the takeway offer as this  
charges you only if you're dialed in so if you need it one month only  
for lets say 2 days, it costs you only these days + base fee


for the APN use "remote" and let me know if you find a firewall, I was  
able to use everything. it gives you a public IP where I think it was  
dynamic.




Silvan

Am 26.08.2008 um 15:03 schrieb Chris Gravell:


Hoi,

Does anyone have any direct experience with this WIC with any GSM  
provider's

(Sunrise, Orange, Swisscom et al.) in Switzerland?

I want to use this card as dial-backup to a WAN connection (Serial,  
DSL
etc). So far I have it working with Sunrise and Orange depending on  
the

(APN) Access Point Name and Profile.

However, none of the APN provisioned by the GSM Providers'/  
available for

their SIM's feature what I really require. Those being:

1. Publically assigned IP

2. Static IP (Dynamic will work too - intend to create a DMVPN  
tunnel to
backhaul one providers' IP range over the GSM providers' IP network  
and
DMVPN will do this even where the "spoke" or GSM interface is  
dynamically

assigned)

3. No NAT/PAT in the GSM provider's network (i.e. some APN assign a  
private

IP to the GSM interface and NAT this at the edge of the GSM provider's
network)

4. Permit ALL IP protocols (NO firewalling along the path - some GSM
provider's permit only http, ftp etc)

Sunrise and Orange support similar options but not all. Does anyone  
know if
Swisscom or another provider might offer an APN product that  
accommodates

all requirements as a solution?

This cisco WIC only came out last year so info is relatively thin on  
the
ground. The configuration is trivial but the hard part is finding a  
GSM
Provider that will treat this as a viable backup solution for  
business' and
not just a cut down version/ poor man's IP connectivity for mobile  
phones.


Any ideas, tips or tricks welcomed.

Thanks,

Chris Gravell




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[swinog] job @ vienna

2008-08-26 Thread Spiess Bernd

fyi: if someone know´s a technician who is available
at vienna/austria please see our job-offer at:

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