[swinog] A fake online shop ?
Hello Swinog, Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. Thank you Greg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
Hi Gregor I have never had any contact with them, but seen them on toppreise since a long(er) time. Have you checked the rating? http://www.toppreise.ch/shop_306.html Cheers Günti From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Gregoire Huet Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:39 AM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] A fake online shop ? Hello Swinog, Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. Thank you Greg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
hi greg i've ordered 2-3 things in the past ~2 years - never had any issue. -steven Gregoire Huet wrote: Hello Swinog, Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. Thank you Greg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
Careful. The ratings on toppreise aren't always up-to-date. A while back, I bought some networking gear from the Speicher-Shop. They were also well-rated, but somehow the fact that the owner was going bankrupt and didn't have any money to pay his employees was overlooked. I chose payment in advance -- the usual conditions in Switzerland are such that it is much more expensive if you don't. When my goods didn't arrive, and e-mail exchanges with the shop asking for either the goods or a refund after a while didn't get answered, I started calling around. I spoke to an employee of the shop who told me the situation. While he was happy to give me the handy number of the owner, he told me that I would only be lied to. So I made use of the prosecution office (Betreibungsamt) for the first time, other than to get an extract of my own clean record. The referred me to the corresponding office in Rorschach, to whom I wrote a letter. (Annoying thing is, everytime you write those people, they want Fr. 30 from you to do anything.) About that time, all mention of Speicher-Shop mysteriously disappeared from toppreise. Apparently my letter made it to the Attorney General of St Gallen, along with complaints from others. They prosecuted and convicted the owner, and sent me a list of several hundered plaintiffs with the amountd they were awarded. My award covered the cost of what I ordered, the Betreibungskosten, and a bit more, but nowhere near enough to cover the lost revenue from the project I could not start on time because the device never arrived. And of course, the bankrupt owner never paid me anything back. I bet the only costs that got recovered out of that operation are around Fr. 3'500 in court costs. So one should definitely beware of these online places on toppreise. Perhaps the rating service could be expanded to cover financial soundness of the offerors on a voluntary basis? -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 09:59 To: Gregoire Huet Cc: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? hi greg i've ordered 2-3 things in the past ~2 years - never had any issue. -steven Gregoire Huet wrote: > Hello Swinog, > > Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? > > I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite > good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some > thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering > the goods. > > I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give > me one. > > Thank you > > Greg > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
Hi Charles I agree that the ratings may not be up-to-date. But it's a a good indicator. As far as possible I buy on invoice. Or by credit card. There are too many criminals in the internet. So paying in advance is not an option for me. Cheers Günti -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Charles Buckley Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:41 AM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? Careful. The ratings on toppreise aren't always up-to-date. A while back, I bought some networking gear from the Speicher-Shop. They were also well-rated, but somehow the fact that the owner was going bankrupt and didn't have any money to pay his employees was overlooked. I chose payment in advance -- the usual conditions in Switzerland are such that it is much more expensive if you don't. When my goods didn't arrive, and e-mail exchanges with the shop asking for either the goods or a refund after a while didn't get answered, I started calling around. I spoke to an employee of the shop who told me the situation. While he was happy to give me the handy number of the owner, he told me that I would only be lied to. So I made use of the prosecution office (Betreibungsamt) for the first time, other than to get an extract of my own clean record. The referred me to the corresponding office in Rorschach, to whom I wrote a letter. (Annoying thing is, everytime you write those people, they want Fr. 30 from you to do anything.) About that time, all mention of Speicher-Shop mysteriously disappeared from toppreise. Apparently my letter made it to the Attorney General of St Gallen, along with complaints from others. They prosecuted and convicted the owner, and sent me a list of several hundered plaintiffs with the amountd they were awarded. My award covered the cost of what I ordered, the Betreibungskosten, and a bit more, but nowhere near enough to cover the lost revenue from the project I could not start on time because the device never arrived. And of course, the bankrupt owner never paid me anything back. I bet the only costs that got recovered out of that operation are around Fr. 3'500 in court costs. So one should definitely beware of these online places on toppreise. Perhaps the rating service could be expanded to cover financial soundness of the offerors on a voluntary basis? -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 09:59 To: Gregoire Huet Cc: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? hi greg i've ordered 2-3 things in the past ~2 years - never had any issue. -steven Gregoire Huet wrote: > Hello Swinog, > > Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? > > I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good > notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves > association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. > > I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. > > Thank you > > Greg > -- > -- > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
Hi Gregoire 2010/1/22 Gregoire Huet : > > I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite > good notation on Toppreise. > I have made several orders over the past few months and had no problems with them. They are one of those "virtual" shops that do not keep their own inventory and directly ship from the large distributors (Ingram Micro, Techdata etc.) which means the only way to stay competitive is to offer lower prices. This can only be achieved by keeping personnel costs to the absolute minimum, unfortunately this also means that they cannot offer customer service over telephone etc. unless you pay a steep premium ( http://www.techmania.ch/versand.aspx ). What payment method and service level did you choose? regards, Flavio ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
full ack on günti. i prefer always credit card or invoice (where possible). CC gives me the possiblity to chargeback - if I don't get aynthing delivered. -steven robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com wrote: Hi Charles I agree that the ratings may not be up-to-date. But it's a a good indicator. As far as possible I buy on invoice. Or by credit card. There are too many criminals in the internet. So paying in advance is not an option for me. Cheers Günti -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Charles Buckley Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:41 AM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? Careful. The ratings on toppreise aren't always up-to-date. A while back, I bought some networking gear from the Speicher-Shop. They were also well-rated, but somehow the fact that the owner was going bankrupt and didn't have any money to pay his employees was overlooked. I chose payment in advance -- the usual conditions in Switzerland are such that it is much more expensive if you don't. When my goods didn't arrive, andd e-mail exchanges with the shop asking for either the goods or a refund after a while didn't get answered, I started calling around. I spoke to an employee of the shop who told me the situation. While he was happy to give me the handy number of the owner, he told me that I would only be lied to. So I made use of the prosecution office (Betreibungsamt) for the first time, other than to get an extract of my own clean record. The referred me to the corresponding office in Rorschach, to whom I wrote a letter. (Annoying thing is, everytime you write those people, they want Fr. 30 from you to do anything.) About that time, all mention of Speicher-Shop mysteriously disappeared from toppreise. Apparently my letter made it to the Attorney General of St Gallen, along with complaints from others. They prosecuted and convicted the owner, and sent me a list of several hundered plaintiffs with the amountd they were awarded. My award covered the cost of what I ordered, the Betreibungskosten, and a bit more, but nowhere near enough to cover the lost revenue from the project I could not start on time because the device never arrived. And of course, the bankrupt owner never paid me anything back. I bet the only costs that got recovered out of that operation are around Fr. 3'500 in court costs. So one should definitely beware of these online places on toppreise. Perhaps the rating service could be expanded to cover financial soundness of the offerors on a voluntary basis? -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 09:59 To: Gregoire Huet Cc: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? hi greg i've ordered 2-3 things in the past ~2 years - never had any issue. -steven Gregoire Huet wrote: Hello Swinog, Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. Thank you Greg -- -- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
Hi all I had two orders in the past with techmania. Both went perfectly well. Normally I use credit card, but for the two orders I used prepayment (which I only make for orders within Switzerland. Gives me the felling I could drive there in the worst case). Cheers Philipp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Flavio Tischhauser Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 11:27 An: SWINOG Betreff: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ? Hi Gregoire 2010/1/22 Gregoire Huet : > > I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite > good notation on Toppreise. > I have made several orders over the past few months and had no problems with them. They are one of those "virtual" shops that do not keep their own inventory and directly ship from the large distributors (Ingram Micro, Techdata etc.) which means the only way to stay competitive is to offer lower prices. This can only be achieved by keeping personnel costs to the absolute minimum, unfortunately this also means that they cannot offer customer service over telephone etc. unless you pay a steep premium ( http://www.techmania.ch/versand.aspx ). What payment method and service level did you choose? regards, Flavio ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Somebody have experience with Cogent ?
Their price plans are pretty low but I didn't got any business experience with them yet. So I thought I'll ask around... Please reply offline. Daniele Guazzoni Network & System Engineer Cisco Certified Network Professional Audatex (Switzerland) LLC A Solera Company Zollstrasse 62 CH-8021 Zürich Phone: +41 1 278 87 54 Fax:+41 1 278 85 15 E-Mail: daniele.guazz...@audatex.ch Web:http://www.audatex.com This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Somebody have experience with Cogent ?
We had cogent for some years, and everything was quite good. I would buy it again. -steven Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: Their price plans are pretty low but I didn't got any business experience with them yet. So I thought I'll ask around... Please reply offline. Daniele Guazzoni Network & System Engineer Cisco Certified Network Professional Audatex (Switzerland) LLC A Solera Company Zollstrasse 62 CH-8021 Zürich Phone: +41 1 278 87 54 Fax:+41 1 278 85 15 E-Mail: daniele.guazz...@audatex.ch Web:http://www.audatex.com This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
,-) as discussed via IRC: lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head for some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been there - so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we can coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) -steven Mario Iseli wrote: Heya, I will come as well :) What about having a swinog-dinner together one evening? (Will be there from Sunday to Friday) See you there! Mario -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:45 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona hi everyone someone joining cisco networkers in barcelona? -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?
On 1/22/10 9:38 AM, Gregoire Huet wrote: Hello Swinog, Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ? I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods. I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one. Thank you Greg No issues here, have used them several times in the past. They are (as others have mentioned) a virtual store that simply front many distributors. Thomas ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
Hi there, I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something close to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to 19.15. I will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday afternoon. If you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, text me on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to steal Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech seminar it's probably a good idea. :-) Best regards, Mario -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona ,-) as discussed via IRC: lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head for some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been there - so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we can coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) -steven smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
heheh... great idea ,-) but do 20:30 ... hey, it's spain and you won't find someone eating before 21:00 ,-)) -steven Mario Iseli wrote: Hi there, I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something close to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to 19.15. I will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday afternoon. If you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, text me on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to steal Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech seminar it's probably a good idea. :-) Best regards, Mario -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona ,-) as discussed via IRC: lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head for some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been there - so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we can coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Somebody have experience with Cogent ?
I use them specially because of nice connectivity to south American destinations. Don't expect super support quality. -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Guazzoni Daniele, CH Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 12:28 To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Somebody have experience with Cogent ? Their price plans are pretty low but I didn't got any business experience with them yet. So I thought I'll ask around... Please reply offline. Daniele Guazzoni Network & System Engineer Cisco Certified Network Professional Audatex (Switzerland) LLC A Solera Company Zollstrasse 62 CH-8021 Zürich Phone: +41 1 278 87 54 Fax:+41 1 278 85 15 E-Mail: daniele.guazz...@audatex.ch Web:http://www.audatex.com This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Somebody have experience with Cogent ?
Guazzoni Daniele, CH schrieb: Their price plans are pretty low but I didn't got any business experience with them yet. So I thought I'll ask around... Considering Cogents depeering history I would not use them singlehomed. http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/116-De-Peering-History-von-Cogent-AS174.html http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/779-De-Peering-n-Cogent-AS174-vs.-Sprint-AS1239.html http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/732-Cogent-AS174-und-TeliaSonera-AS1299-de-peeren-sich.html (and about 10 articles more - search for 'cogent' at blogg.ch) F. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
Hi, I would join you, but can't do Monday ... How about some beer Tuesday after the evening event along the Rambla .. Cheers Christoph _ Christoph Schellhammer Tel: +41 44 878 9236 mobile: +41 79 477 77 90 -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 14:32 To: Mario Iseli Cc: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona heheh... great idea ,-) but do 20:30 ... hey, it's spain and you won't find someone eating before 21:00 ,-)) -steven Mario Iseli wrote: > Hi there, > > I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for > sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something close > to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish > habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to 19.15. I > will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday afternoon. If > you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, text me > on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to steal > Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech seminar > it's probably a good idea. :-) > > Best regards, > Mario > > -Original Message- > From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] > On Behalf Of Steven Glogger > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM > To: swi...@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona > > ,-) > as discussed via IRC: > > lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. > if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head for > some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been there - > so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we can > coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) > > -steven > > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
why not ,-) my mobile (in case someone has it not yet: +41 79 277 92 35) (google probably has it already listed for many years ,-)) -steven Christoph Schellhammer (cschellh) wrote: Hi, I would join you, but can't do Monday ... How about some beer Tuesday after the evening event along the Rambla .. Cheers Christoph _ Christoph Schellhammer Tel: +41 44 878 9236 mobile: +41 79 477 77 90 -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 14:32 To: Mario Iseli Cc: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona heheh... great idea ,-) but do 20:30 ... hey, it's spain and you won't find someone eating before 21:00 ,-)) -steven Mario Iseli wrote: Hi there, I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something close to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to 19.15. I will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday afternoon. If you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, text me on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to steal Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech seminar it's probably a good idea. :-) Best regards, Mario -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona ,-) as discussed via IRC: lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head for some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been there - so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we can coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
Cablecom is voting for Monday. Dani, Chris and I would join you on Monday. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Steven Glogger Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 16:29 An: Christoph Schellhammer (cschellh) Cc: swi...@swinog.ch; Mario Iseli Betreff: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona why not ,-) my mobile (in case someone has it not yet: +41 79 277 92 35) (google probably has it already listed for many years ,-)) -steven Christoph Schellhammer (cschellh) wrote: > Hi, > > I would join you, but can't do Monday ... > > How about some beer Tuesday after the evening event along the Rambla .. > > Cheers > Christoph > > _ > Christoph Schellhammer > Tel: +41 44 878 9236 > mobile: +41 79 477 77 90 > > > > -Original Message- > From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger > Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 14:32 > To: Mario Iseli > Cc: swi...@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona > > heheh... great idea ,-) > > but do 20:30 ... hey, it's spain and you won't find someone eating > before 21:00 ,-)) > > -steven > > Mario Iseli wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for >> sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something >> > close > >> to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish >> habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to >> > 19.15. I > >> will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday >> > afternoon. If > >> you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, >> > text me > >> on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to >> > steal > >> Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech >> > seminar > >> it's probably a good idea. :-) >> >> Best regards, >> Mario >> >> -Original Message- >> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch >> > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] > >> On Behalf Of Steven Glogger >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM >> To: swi...@swinog.ch >> Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona >> >> ,-) >> as discussed via IRC: >> >> lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. >> if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head >> > for > >> some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been >> > there - > >> so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we >> > can > >> coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) >> >> -steven >> >> >> > > >> ___ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog@lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >> >> > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona
Hi networkers :) I got a call from Cisco Switzerland yesterday and they will organize a "swiss apero" Tuesday and Wednesday evening. So we will have a BE for us anyway. :) I guess they will contact you too... Otherwise, there's not many bars near the forum and it's better to go near the center (ramblas area) because it's the tourist area so there's a lot of places to drink a beer :) At port Olympic there's also some good bars and it's a very nice place; in front of the beach, very nice lounge bars, etc. For those who where here last year, we made a swiss dinner there at CDLC (carpe diem lounge club) and it was really nice. See you next week :) Jerome Jerome Tissieres - Senior Network Engineer Cisco Certified CCIP & CCNP Tel: +41 21 618 03 77 Fax: +41 21 618 07 07 jerome.tissie...@imd.ch IMD Ch. de Bellerive 23, P.O. Box 915 CH - 1001 Lausanne, Switzerland www.imd.ch -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Mueller, Philipp Sent: vendredi 22 janvier 2010 17:26 To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona Cablecom is voting for Monday. Dani, Chris and I would join you on Monday. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Steven Glogger Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 16:29 An: Christoph Schellhammer (cschellh) Cc: swi...@swinog.ch; Mario Iseli Betreff: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona why not ,-) my mobile (in case someone has it not yet: +41 79 277 92 35) (google probably has it already listed for many years ,-)) -steven Christoph Schellhammer (cschellh) wrote: > Hi, > > I would join you, but can't do Monday ... > > How about some beer Tuesday after the evening event along the Rambla .. > > Cheers > Christoph > > _ > Christoph Schellhammer > Tel: +41 44 878 9236 > mobile: +41 79 477 77 90 > > > > -Original Message- > From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Steven Glogger > Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 14:32 > To: Mario Iseli > Cc: swi...@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona > > heheh... great idea ,-) > > but do 20:30 ... hey, it's spain and you won't find someone eating > before 21:00 ,-)) > > -steven > > Mario Iseli wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I won't visit a tech-seminar on Monday, so I have a little time for >> sightseeing and searching a good restaurant. I will search something >> > close > >> to CCIB and reserve it for 19.30 (maybe a little bit early for spanish >> habits?), since the orientation event will take place from 18.15 to >> > 19.15. I > >> will write the exact location to the list somewhen on Monday >> > afternoon. If > >> you want to join but you don't want to read your mail all the time, >> > text me > >> on Monday on +41 79 573 12 31... Is this ok for you? I don't want to >> > steal > >> Stevens job as CFO (chief food organizer), but since he's on a tech >> > seminar > >> it's probably a good idea. :-) >> >> Best regards, >> Mario >> >> -Original Message- >> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch >> > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] > >> On Behalf Of Steven Glogger >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM >> To: swi...@swinog.ch >> Subject: Re: [swinog] Networkers Barcelona >> >> ,-) >> as discussed via IRC: >> >> lets have some SwiNOG-Spain-BE #1 or something like that. >> if someone wants to join for some beer: lets meet somewhere and head >> > for > >> some beer ,-) and no: no registration, no place... i've never been >> > there - > >> so no planning possible ,-) but you have all my phone number - and we >> > can > >> coordinate hopefully by mail too ,-) >> >> -steven >> >> >> > > >> ___ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog@lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >> >> > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
