[swinog] SwiNOG-BE85 - Beer Event 85 - 3rd of May 2010 @ Outback / ZH
hi everybody here's the announcement for the next beer event. the facts for the next event: - Date: 3rd of May 2010 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 02.05.2010 16:00 (Sunday) Registration: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35). -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Geolocating IP's
Hi, one of the most sophisticated Country to IP Databases i know of is at http://ip.ludost.net It even allows you to download the lists pre-formated in Cisco-ACLs, Iptables, apache .htaccess and a lot of other differerent formats. Afaik it's updated daily. Hope this helps. Cheers, Phippu ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:58:07 +0200, "Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst" said: > Solution: > Routing to 138.190.0.0/16 was broken (blackholed at upstream), so both > (dns[12].swisscom.com) were not reachable. Ok, but I'd still say that you have a problem with your IPv6 connectivity. > I will have to spend some time on the inner workings of dig... Yes. Think about it. If you do a "dig swisscom.ch. ns @a.nic.ch", you're only asking, well, a.nic.ch. The Swisscom name servers are not involved at all. Therefore, your issue with 138.190.0.0/16 has *nothing* to do with the problems you've described in your first message (but everything with your customer's problem :) So, let me elaborate a bit on your dig output. On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:50:17 +0200, "Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst" said: > (820)[r...@svn /tmp]# sh ch > dig swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch > ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.1.80, trying next server > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > dig swisscom.ch ns @B.nic.ch > ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.211.10, trying next server This is not standard behaviour of dig. It appears that RedHat has applied a patch that makes dig skip to the next server in its search list if it encounters a referral, which is totally bogus. In particular, it appears to only be in effect if the search list contains multiple entries (otherwise, it wouldn't display anything in the IPv4-only case either). Please use a regular version of dig for diagnostics. It also appears that your dig is not strictly preferring IPv6 over IPv4. That's why, for dual-stacked servers, you sometimes see the "Got referral reply" message (IPv4 first then IPv6, which then times out) and sometimes "connection timed out". In the latter case, the initial IPv6 query will time out. There should be a retry with IPv4, which should actually succeed, but maybe the RedHat patch breaks this, too (the result is still a referral, of course; maybe because the stupid patch even has a bug when the search list has more than one entry and falls off the end of the list). -- Alex ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
Hi there! Maybe a client resolver issue. Have a look at: http://weblogs.asp.net/owscott/archive/2009/09/15/windows-server-2008-r2-dns-issues.aspx - that helped some clients already when they complained about unresolvable domains. Best wishes, Matthias - Original Message - From: "Benoit Panizzon" To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains... No Problems here.. From a to f all according: $ dig NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch. ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P3 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch. ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6710 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 Mit freundlichen GrĂ¼ssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G-Leiter IT Customer Care __ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 PrattelnFax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch __ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
Solution: Routing to 138.190.0.0/16 was broken (blackholed at upstream), so both (dns[12].swisscom.com) were not reachable. I will have to spend some time on the inner workings of dig... Thanks for the suggestions... wiwi ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
i too see this . But only on debian lenny bind9 installations, not on every host and only since a few days. Maybe some security update introduced a bug. as a workaround i configured forwarders. - Thomas On 29.04.2010 10:50, Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst wrote: I got some reports from customers that some CH domains no not resolve... While testing if found: Only two of the [a-f].nic.ch seem to give replies... The ones that answer are exactly the ones that do not have IPv6 addresses... Happens at least for ksz.ch and swisscom.ch. Anyone else sees this? Any ideas? (820)[r...@svn /tmp]# sh ch dig swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.1.80, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.211.10, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 147.28.0.39, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @D.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @D.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24625 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 218 msec ;; SERVER: 200.160.0.5#53(200.160.0.5) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:41:36 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 dig swisscom.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 204.61.216.47, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @F.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @F.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61901 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 24 msec ;; SERVER: 194.146.106.10#53(194.146.106.10) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:41:51 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 dig ksz.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.1.80, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.211.10, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 147.28.0.39, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @D.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @D.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59974 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ksz.ch.IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ksz.ch. 3600IN NS zug.ch.ns.progon.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns1.ultradns.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns2.ultradns.net. ;; Query time: 228 msec ;; SERVER: 200.160.0.5#53(200.160.0.5) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:44:25 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 107 dig ksz.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 204.61.216.47, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @F.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @F.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1256 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ksz.ch.IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ksz.ch. 3600IN NS zug.ch.ns.progon.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns2.ultradns.net. ksz.ch.
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
Hello Wiwi, On 04/29/10 10:50, Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst wrote: I got some reports from customers that some CH domains no not resolve... While testing if found: Only two of the [a-f].nic.ch seem to give replies... The ones that answer are exactly the ones that do not have IPv6 addresses... Happens at least for ksz.ch and swisscom.ch. Anyone else sees this? Works fine for me: - tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @a.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @a.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 141 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 130.59.1.80#53(130.59.1.80) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:31:43 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @b.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @b.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2028 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 6 msec ;; SERVER: 130.59.211.10#53(130.59.211.10) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:31:49 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @c.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @c.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 830 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 175 msec ;; SERVER: 147.28.0.39#53(147.28.0.39) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:31:51 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @d.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @d.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1607 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 237 msec ;; SERVER: 200.160.0.5#53(200.160.0.5) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:31:54 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @e.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @e.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1462 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 18 msec ;; SERVER: 204.61.216.47#53(204.61.216.47) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:31:57 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 191 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 6 msec ;; SERVER: 194.146.106.10#53(194.146.106.10) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:32:00 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 tzhdo...@bw121isd:~$ dig NS swisscom.ch @h.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @h.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1800 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 194.42.48.120#53(194.42.48.120) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 11:32:20 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 90 - Are you sure that it's not on your side? Ihsan -- ih...@dogan.ch http://blog.dogan.ch/ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Re: [swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
No Problems here.. >From a to f all according: $ dig NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch. ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P3 <<>> NS swisscom.ch @f.nic.ch. ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6710 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 Mit freundlichen GrĂ¼ssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G-Leiter IT Customer Care __ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 PrattelnFax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch __ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] DNS: Clueless: Strange problems resolving ch domains...
I got some reports from customers that some CH domains no not resolve... While testing if found: Only two of the [a-f].nic.ch seem to give replies... The ones that answer are exactly the ones that do not have IPv6 addresses... Happens at least for ksz.ch and swisscom.ch. Anyone else sees this? Any ideas? (820)[r...@svn /tmp]# sh ch dig swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.1.80, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.211.10, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 147.28.0.39, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @D.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @D.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24625 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 218 msec ;; SERVER: 200.160.0.5#53(200.160.0.5) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:41:36 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 dig swisscom.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 204.61.216.47, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig swisscom.ch ns @F.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> swisscom.ch ns @F.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61901 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swisscom.ch. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns1.swisscom.com. swisscom.ch.3600IN NS dns2.swisscom.com. ;; Query time: 24 msec ;; SERVER: 194.146.106.10#53(194.146.106.10) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:41:51 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 dig ksz.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.1.80, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @A.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 130.59.211.10, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @B.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 147.28.0.39, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @C.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @D.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @D.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59974 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ksz.ch.IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ksz.ch. 3600IN NS zug.ch.ns.progon.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns1.ultradns.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns2.ultradns.net. ;; Query time: 228 msec ;; SERVER: 200.160.0.5#53(200.160.0.5) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:44:25 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 107 dig ksz.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; Got referral reply from 204.61.216.47, trying next server ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @E.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached dig ksz.ch ns @F.nic.ch ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 <<>> ksz.ch ns @F.nic.ch ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1256 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ksz.ch.IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ksz.ch. 3600IN NS zug.ch.ns.progon.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns2.ultradns.net. ksz.ch. 3600IN NS udns1.ultradns.net. ;; Query time: 24 msec ;; SERVER: 194.146.106.10#53(194.146.106.10) ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 29 10:44:41 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 107 (825)[r...@svn /tmp]# dig -d swisscom.ch ns @A.nic.ch main parsing swisscom.ch clo