[swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Jon Martin
Hello,

I'm not able to use my registration for Swinog as a business meeting has 
come up on the 29th September.  I know that registration is already 
filled up so this is your opportunity to attend if you weren't able to 
sign up.  Under the new rules I have 5 days (I certainly assume 5 
business days) to pay for this registration or it will be forfeited.  
This would mean payment is due and this ticket scalping deal has to be 
closed by Wednesday.  You pay the fee and I edit my inscription with 
your name and organization.

It seems that after five days I'm going to be responsible to pay my 50 
bucks weather I can come or not.  So I'm going to pay on time (unless 
someone else would like to take over the registration) because I'm 
responsible for it.  That means that if someone doesn't take me up on my 
offer the seat will stay empty.  That seems really unfortunate to me and 
I'm not sure that is what the new rules are meant to accomplish, but 
that looks like the way this could shake out.

If you are interested send me a mail off-list.  The first response will 
get it.  So please, take this thing off my hand.  It would be better 
that there are 99 at the social event than 100.  ;-)

Jon



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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 31.08.2009 17:56 Jon Martin wrote

 If you are interested send me a mail ...

Can't find it on eBay yet!



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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Jon Martin
Believe me, I though about it. ;-)

Arnold Nipper wrote:
 On 31.08.2009 17:56 Jon Martin wrote

   
 If you are interested send me a mail ...
 

 Can't find it on eBay yet!



 SCNR, Arnold
   
 


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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger
hi jon, 

yes, but this will work until i press the 'Delete Registration' button in
our admin interface.
after this magic button the registration is defintive expired and cannot be
undone.

normally we press this button, after we receive emails from people, that
they cannot attend, and then it's not possible to change anything, because
the registration disappears but the invoice remains.
but since you registered AND sent us THE SAME DAY the email that you cannot
attend, i've left your place until we start reminding the people that the
invoice is open.. ,-)

-steven

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 [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Jon Martin
 Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:52 PM
 To: Arnold Nipper
 Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available
 
 Believe me, I though about it. ;-)
 
 Arnold Nipper wrote:
  On 31.08.2009 17:56 Jon Martin wrote
 

  If you are interested send me a mail ...
  
 
  Can't find it on eBay yet!
 
 
 
  SCNR, Arnold

  
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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Jon Martin
To be honest, that sounds exactly like what should have happened here.  
But in that case, I should no longer be responsible to pay.  I'm sorry 
but that really would be the fair way to handle this situation.  Fair to 
me and fair to the list.  Your delete button could also send an email to 
the list to inform everyone that a registration slot is open.

Jon


Steven Glogger wrote:
 hi jon, 

 yes, but this will work until i press the 'Delete Registration' button in
 our admin interface.
 after this magic button the registration is defintive expired and cannot be
 undone.

 normally we press this button, after we receive emails from people, that
 they cannot attend, and then it's not possible to change anything, because
 the registration disappears but the invoice remains.
 but since you registered AND sent us THE SAME DAY the email that you cannot
 attend, i've left your place until we start reminding the people that the
 invoice is open.. ,-)

 -steven

   
 -Original Message-
 From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch 
 [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Jon Martin
 Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:52 PM
 To: Arnold Nipper
 Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

 Believe me, I though about it. ;-)

 Arnold Nipper wrote:
 
 On 31.08.2009 17:56 Jon Martin wrote

   
   
 If you are interested send me a mail ...
 
 
 Can't find it on eBay yet!



 SCNR, Arnold
   

   
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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Jon Martin
I read the terms and then clicked submit and you are within your rights 
but as a self-governed, self-policed, non-profit organization I would 
think that Swinog would be a little bit cooler than an airline or a 
hotel chain. 

Jon

Steven Glogger wrote:
 jon, 

 yes, i halfway agree with you. 

   
 To be honest, that sounds exactly like what should have 
 happened here.  
 

 thats right.

   
 But in that case, I should no longer be responsible to pay.  
 

 nope, see registration terms.
 if you reserve a hotel room / buy flight tickets there's also a non-refund
 policy.
 i think we've clearly enough stated for the policies in our mails /
 registration.

   
 I'm sorry but that really would be the fair way to handle 
 this situation.  Fair to me and fair to the list.  Your 
 delete button could also send an email to the list to inform 
 everyone that a registration slot is open.
 

 there's alway space for improvement.
 but we're performing a cleanup and when there's space we will inform via
 list.
 we've having a waiting list, in case you really want to sign up, you can
 drop an email to swinog-core [at] swinog[dot]ch and we're putting you on the
 list. as I said: there's always space for improvement...

 -steven

   


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Re: [swinog] Swinog 19 registration available

2009-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger
jon, 

yes, i halfway agree with you. 

 To be honest, that sounds exactly like what should have 
 happened here.  

thats right.

 But in that case, I should no longer be responsible to pay.  

nope, see registration terms.
if you reserve a hotel room / buy flight tickets there's also a non-refund
policy.
i think we've clearly enough stated for the policies in our mails /
registration.

 I'm sorry but that really would be the fair way to handle 
 this situation.  Fair to me and fair to the list.  Your 
 delete button could also send an email to the list to inform 
 everyone that a registration slot is open.

there's alway space for improvement.
but we're performing a cleanup and when there's space we will inform via
list.
we've having a waiting list, in case you really want to sign up, you can
drop an email to swinog-core [at] swinog[dot]ch and we're putting you on the
list. as I said: there's always space for improvement...

-steven


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