Re: [sword-devel] Please update the link here if you have migrated your project
Jack, OK - I understand - I just updated the link for you. Blessings! David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Please-update-the-link-here-if-you-have-migrated-your-project-tp4656032p4656070.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Please update the link here if you have migrated your project
Link just added for xulsword issues. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Please-update-the-link-here-if-you-have-migrated-your-project-tp4656032p4656071.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] FYI new TLD
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Re: [sword-devel] FYI new TLD
Thanks for the heads-up. Were we to register and use, we'd end up having to use 6 more keys to type the URL. One thing for sure, the new TLD will be blocked by regimes hostile to the Gospel of Christ. Having such a TLD makes it easier to block than by examining content. That could be a huge disadvantage should too many organisations jump on this particular bandwagon. Even so, it will have its uses. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/FYI-new-TLD-tp4656072p4656073.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
See http://crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:Modules#IMP_Format For daily devotionals, you must encode the key as "$$$mm.dd". Question: Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? And is a general introduction feasible under the key $$$00.00 ? i.e. By analogy with the way IMP format works for Bibles, etc. Moreover, even if both are valid, does SWORD have the ability to display them? Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/IMP-format-for-Daily-Devotionals-tp4656074.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
On 02/10/2016 08:27 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? A daily.dev is a dictionary module with odd keys. You can encode $$$mm.00 if you wish, and if you display that daily.dev in an app's usual dictionary pane, you can surely navigate to mm.00. But I'm completely sure that no Sword app has any sensitivity to looking for mm.00 in any automated use, such as Xiphos' startup display, or detection of daily.dev status on dictionary module open; in both cases, Xiphos simply keys today's date. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > > On 02/10/2016 08:27 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? > A daily.dev is a dictionary module with odd keys. You can encode $$$mm.00 if > you wish, and if you display that daily.dev in an app's usual dictionary > pane, you can surely navigate to mm.00. But I'm completely sure that no > Sword app has any sensitivity to looking for mm.00 in any automated use, such > as Xiphos' startup display, or detection of daily.dev status on dictionary > module open; in both cases, Xiphos simply keys today's date. Regarding JSword: I’m pretty sure that using a value other than 01-12 for mm will break. It takes that value and converts it to a localized month. Having a value 00 will be treated the same as any other DD value. 99 will work, too. It show without 0 padding. Like Karl said, you can only browse to it. There is no semantic meaning otherwise.___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
So would the solution to include month headings (etc.) be to go to a proper OSIS XML source file, rather than to use IMP with either ThML or OSIS fragments? I'm thinking of the original twelve subtitles, such as JANUARY THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED. HEAR YE HIM. (M'Cheyne's Daily Bread). How might one ensure that such titles be displayed? Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/IMP-format-for-Daily-Devotionals-tp4656074p4656077.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
David is right though, a intro would be a suitable thing in so many way and many use it. E.g. the Herrnhuther Losungen come with a year's losung and a month's one and a monthly psalm., So using the chapter/verses 0 logic from bibles does make sense. Sent from my phone. Apologies for brevity and typos.On 10 Feb 2016 14:31, DM Smith wrote: > > >> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: >> > On 02/10/2016 08:27 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? > > A daily.dev is a dictionary module with odd keys. You can encode $$$mm.00 if > you wish, and if you display that daily.dev in an app's usual dictionary > pane, you can surely navigate to mm.00. But I'm completely sure that no > Sword app has any sensitivity to looking for mm.00 in any automated use, such > as Xiphos' startup display, or detection of daily.dev status on dictionary > module open; in both cases, Xiphos simply keys today's date. > > Regarding JSword: > > I’m pretty sure that using a value other than 01-12 for mm will break. It > takes that value and converts it to a localized month. > > Having a value 00 will be treated the same as any other DD value. 99 will > work, too. It show without 0 padding. > > Like Karl said, you can only browse to it. There is no semantic meaning > otherwise. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
Simple enough: One would put a month heading in mm.01 as a heading using the proper markup for the module whether ThML, TEI, OSIS, … Every dictionary supports a module introduction. It is an unsorted first entry. I have no idea how one specifies that the first key of the module is an intro. But many have it. DM > On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:20 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > So would the solution to include month headings (etc.) be to go to a proper > OSIS XML source file, rather than to use IMP with either ThML or OSIS > fragments? > > I'm thinking of the original twelve subtitles, such as > > JANUARY > THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED. HEAR YE HIM. > > (M'Cheyne's Daily Bread). > > How might one ensure that such titles be displayed? > > Best regards, > > David > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/IMP-format-for-Daily-Devotionals-tp4656074p4656077.html > Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
If it is added, how would the front-end use it? Bible Desktop automatically goes to the current date in the user’s default daily devotional upon startup. Would it show the intro on the first of the month? With every day of the month? Having it in the first day entry ensures that it is seen. In Him, DM > On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > David is right though, a intro would be a suitable thing in so many way and > many use it. E.g. the Herrnhuther Losungen come with a year's losung and a > month's one and a monthly psalm., So using the chapter/verses 0 logic from > bibles does make sense. > > Sent from my phone. Apologies for brevity and typos.On 10 Feb 2016 14:31, DM > Smith wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: >>> >> On 02/10/2016 08:27 AM, David Haslam wrote: >>> >>> Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? >> >> A daily.dev is a dictionary module with odd keys. You can encode $$$mm.00 >> if you wish, and if you display that daily.dev in an app's usual dictionary >> pane, you can surely navigate to mm.00. But I'm completely sure that no >> Sword app has any sensitivity to looking for mm.00 in any automated use, >> such as Xiphos' startup display, or detection of daily.dev status on >> dictionary module open; in both cases, Xiphos simply keys today's date. >> >> Regarding JSword: >> >> I’m pretty sure that using a value other than 01-12 for mm will break. It >> takes that value and converts it to a localized month. >> >> Having a value 00 will be treated the same as any other DD value. 99 will >> work, too. It show without 0 padding. >> >> Like Karl said, you can only browse to it. There is no semantic meaning >> otherwise. > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Unicode and the lack of
What type of unicode are they? I assume UTF-8. Are there modules having other types (chinese, japan, etc.)? Manfred > Am 09.02.2016 um 22:06 schrieb Peter von Kaehne : > > Re the first question, i would treat any report re a new module not being > unicode as a bug report > > On 9 February 2016 20:43:45 GMT+00:00, Manfred Bergmann > wrote: > Hi. > > Now many of the new modules are unicode encoded. > What if on a platform is no ICU available? Can SWORD deal with unicode texts > itself, without ICU? > What are the compile options available for this? > What if a custom unicode library must be used on some platform. How would > this be done? > > > Manfred > > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Unicode and the lack of
Yes. UTF-8. SWORD modules are either CP1252 (MS Windows extended version of Latin-1) or UTF-8. 7-bit ASCII is both of these. But going forward should be marked as UTF-8. > On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann > wrote: > > What type of unicode are they? > I assume UTF-8. Are there modules having other types (chinese, japan, etc.)? > > > Manfred > >> Am 09.02.2016 um 22:06 schrieb Peter von Kaehne : >> >> Re the first question, i would treat any report re a new module not being >> unicode as a bug report >> >> On 9 February 2016 20:43:45 GMT+00:00, Manfred Bergmann >> wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Now many of the new modules are unicode encoded. >> What if on a platform is no ICU available? Can SWORD deal with unicode texts >> itself, without ICU? >> What are the compile options available for this? >> What if a custom unicode library must be used on some platform. How would >> this be done? >> >> >> Manfred >> >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> ___ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Please update the link here if you have migrated your project
Jaak, I don’t understand your HTTP-only comment regarding the wiki. It works just fine under HTTPS. Is your objection the self-signed certificate? In Him, DM > On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: > > On 08.02.2016 13:35, David Haslam wrote: >> http://crosswire.org/wiki/Help:Contents#Front-end_applications > > I propose to change the BibleTime issue tracker URL to > > https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues > > To be honest, besides my lack free of time etc, HTTP-only demotivated me > enough to stop me from trying to find my Crosswire wiki login > credentials (if I ever had them in the first place). > > God bless! > Jaak > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Unicode and the lack of
> Am 09.02.2016 um 22:52 schrieb David Haslam : > > Having ICU, but lacking a suitable Unicode font for aspects of a writing > system is another thing. AFAIK TrueType fonts are available. > Having a source text supplied in a non-Unicode font is a challenge. > Suppose [say] you had to convert Times Roman Armenian to Unicode? > Reverse engineering the character mapping table, and scripting the > conversion, yes, it’s feasible. Na, I wouldn’t do that. The amount of effort involved should be manageable. > What platform does Manfred have in mind? or is the answer still hush hush? > Does „Amiga" still ring a bell? I thought I’d open up another platform for the NG Amiga systems. That is: - MorphOS: http://www.morphos.de - AmigaOS 4: http://www.amigaos.net - AROS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AROS_Research_Operating_System All have become pretty neat, considering the resources available. With a user base of 10s of thousands still. There is also still new hardware for MorphOS and AmigaOS 4. Both are (still) PPC based. MorphOS managed to support all the old PPC Apple hardware (iBook, PowerBook, G4 and G5 desktop systems). There is some Unicode support in either of them. I’m currently figuring out what options there are for displaying text. The SWORD library I’ve already compiled OK with a manually hacked makefile. Manfred ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/IMP-format-for-Daily-Devotionals-tp4656074p4656085.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
On 02/10/2016 12:23 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. > In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. It seems to me that this is a sort of semantic gap between original paper publication and how the content is seen in our apps. Paper version had a single table for the whole month, at the top of which was a heading. But our devotionals are single-day displays. Forcing a month-representative heading into every day seems...very odd. The fundamental change is just that the unit of display is different. I'm not sure that asking all apps to look for and prepend mm.00's content onto every single mm.dd's content is a good solution. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
I think, Karl, this depends very much on the set of devotions - some of the more liturgical churches will have probably run one aspect in a daily repeated way. I mentioned the Losungen and I think having the monthly one appear the whole month, the yearly one the whole year does make sense. For others, it clearly would not. Maybe the whole thing needs more thought Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 um 18:03 Uhr Von: "Karl Kleinpaste" An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals? On 02/10/2016 12:23 PM, David Haslam wrote: Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. It seems to me that this is a sort of semantic gap between original paper publication and how the content is seen in our apps. Paper version had a single table for the whole month, at the top of which was a heading. But our devotionals are single-day displays. Forcing a month-representative heading into every day seems...very odd. The fundamental change is just that the unit of display is different. I'm not sure that asking all apps to look for and prepend mm.00's content onto every single mm.dd's content is a good solution. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
Structurally it sounds very akin to the idea that has occasionally been asked for, to allow commentaries in a gen-book layout. Within the commentary you might have a nesting such as New Testament - Gospels -- Luke --- Birth of Christ Magnificat - Luke 1:50 The commentary might include text at all of those levels that someone scrolling directly to Luke 1:50 might be interested in. Currently there is no way to display all of that text to the user, as commentaries are - like Bibles - a flat array of verses. By the same token, it might be nice to have a daily devotional that is structured in a similar way. Then you could have 2016 - February -- Lent --- 02.10 as an entry for today, and all of the parents would be displayed together. This would obviously require significantly different tooling, but having a hierarchical arrangement of keys in all of our modules could give this sort of flexibility when a module creator wanted it. --Greg P.S. The above example reminds me to wish everyone on the list a blessed Ash Wednesday On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > I think, Karl, this depends very much on the set of devotions - some of the > more liturgical churches will have probably run one aspect in a daily > repeated way. I mentioned the Losungen and I think having the monthly one > appear the whole month, the yearly one the whole year does make sense. For > others, it clearly would not. > > Maybe the whole thing needs more thought > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 um 18:03 Uhr > Von: "Karl Kleinpaste" > An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" > Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals? > On 02/10/2016 12:23 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. > In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. > > It seems to me that this is a sort of semantic gap between original paper > publication and how the content is seen in our apps. > > Paper version had a single table for the whole month, at the top of which > was a heading. But our devotionals are single-day displays. Forcing a > month-representative heading into every day seems...very odd. The > fundamental change is just that the unit of display is different. > > I'm not sure that asking all apps to look for and prepend mm.00's content > onto every single mm.dd's content is a good solution. > ___ sword-devel mailing list: > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to > unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?
For GenBook there is DisplayLevel, which addresses the display of the selected key and some number of parents. There are the following modules having it: concord.conf:DisplayLevel=1 fregbm.conf:DisplayLevel=1 geraugustinus.conf:DisplayLevel=2 lawgospel.conf:DisplayLevel=2 phaistos.conf:DisplayLevel=2 — DM > On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > Structurally it sounds very akin to the idea that has occasionally > been asked for, to allow commentaries in a gen-book layout. Within the > commentary you might have a nesting such as > New Testament > - Gospels > -- Luke > --- Birth of Christ > Magnificat > - Luke 1:50 > > The commentary might include text at all of those levels that someone > scrolling directly to Luke 1:50 might be interested in. Currently > there is no way to display all of that text to the user, as > commentaries are - like Bibles - a flat array of verses. > > By the same token, it might be nice to have a daily devotional that is > structured in a similar way. Then you could have > 2016 > - February > -- Lent > --- 02.10 > > as an entry for today, and all of the parents would be displayed together. > > This would obviously require significantly different tooling, but > having a hierarchical arrangement of keys in all of our modules could > give this sort of flexibility when a module creator wanted it. > > --Greg > > P.S. The above example reminds me to wish everyone on the list a > blessed Ash Wednesday > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: >> I think, Karl, this depends very much on the set of devotions - some of the >> more liturgical churches will have probably run one aspect in a daily >> repeated way. I mentioned the Losungen and I think having the monthly one >> appear the whole month, the yearly one the whole year does make sense. For >> others, it clearly would not. >> >> Maybe the whole thing needs more thought >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 um 18:03 Uhr >> Von: "Karl Kleinpaste" >> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" >> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals? >> On 02/10/2016 12:23 PM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. >> In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. >> >> It seems to me that this is a sort of semantic gap between original paper >> publication and how the content is seen in our apps. >> >> Paper version had a single table for the whole month, at the top of which >> was a heading. But our devotionals are single-day displays. Forcing a >> month-representative heading into every day seems...very odd. The >> fundamental change is just that the unit of display is different. >> >> I'm not sure that asking all apps to look for and prepend mm.00's content >> onto every single mm.dd's content is a good solution. >> ___ sword-devel mailing list: >> sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to >> unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >> ___ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Unicode and the lack of
Manfred, I have a local friend who serves as a volunteer for MissionAssist (formerly known as Wycliffe Associates UK). He has experience of recovering Bible translations from Amiga 3" diskettes, that were thought to have been lost forever because the media was no longer supported by hardware or software. The platform is a shrinking one. It's the data that was never migrated that we risk losing. It would be good to share your knowledge in this area. Blessings, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Unicode-and-the-lack-of-tp4656062p4656090.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] FYI new TLD
sword.pw = 8 characters sword.Bible = 11 characters crosswire.org = 13 characters crosswire.Bible = 15 characters See http://www.nic.bible/blog/post/when-can-.bible-domain-names-be-registered#.VruHEnUrKho for registration opening information. You can preregister, now, but actual registration for the general public starts at 10:00 AM EST on March 8, 2016. I'm not too worried about blocks based on the TLD, although that will probably happen in some places, because it is already exceedingly easy to compile lists of Bible sites from search engines, keyword scans, etc. Even Kalaam Media's coy names on minority language Bible sites are but a very thin veil, easily seen through. Some national-level censors are very sophisticated. So, yes, this is an issue, but not a good reason to avoid .Bible domain names, any more than I would avoid domain names like eBible.org or Biblias.me. I just wouldn't go to .Bible names exclusively. Besides, they are kind of pricey. Still, the fees help support the American Bible Society, so I don't feel too bad about that. National firewalls tend to be a bit porous, especially when any sort of serious corporate use is allowed. Small leaks in firewalls become torrents, so to speak, when data that is easy to share comes through, even if it is hand carried. When I registered eBible.org, I could have had eBible.com and eBible.net, too. They were all available. If you preregister sword.Bible and Crosswire.Bible at Epik.com, chances are very good that you will get them on March 8, 2016. I just registered Sword.pw and set it to redirect to crosswire.org. Feel free to use that URL where brevity is at a premium, like on Twitter or in text messages. I think Sword.Bible would be more memorable than Sword.pw, though. On 02/10/2016 01:05 AM, David Haslam wrote: Thanks for the heads-up. Were we to register and use, we'd end up having to use 6 more keys to type the URL. One thing for sure, the new TLD will be blocked by regimes hostile to the Gospel of Christ. Having such a TLD makes it easier to block than by examining content. That could be a huge disadvantage should too many organisations jump on this particular bandwagon. Even so, it will have its uses. David -- Aloha, Kahunapule Michael Johnson MICHAEL JOHNSON PO BOX 881143 PUKALANI HI 96788-1143 USA eBible.org MLJohnson.org Mobile: +1 808-333-6921 Skype: kahunapule ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] FYI new TLD
go.bible = 8 characters! Even so, my inherited project is rather past its peak in terms of market demand. Displaced by apps on smart phones. Notwithstanding, I messaged Jolon Faichney with the idea. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/FYI-new-TLD-tp4656072p4656092.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] FYI new TLD
I think it was hugely important for a while. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 um 20:51 Uhr > Von: "David Haslam" > An: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] FYI new TLD > > go.bible = 8 characters! > > Even so, my inherited project is rather past its peak in terms of market > demand. > Displaced by apps on smart phones. > > Notwithstanding, I messaged Jolon Faichney with the idea. > > David > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/FYI-new-TLD-tp4656072p4656092.html > Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Please update the link here if you have migrated your project
On 10.02.2016 19:00, DM Smith wrote: > I don’t understand your HTTP-only comment regarding the wiki. It works just > fine under HTTPS. Is your objection the self-signed certificate? I object to sending my login credentials over the wire in plain text. Btw, the wiki login form didn't redirect to HTTPS. I don't object to self-signed certificates in general. Its the chain of trust that matters. Currently I don't have any reason to trust the certificate with SHA-256 fingerprint EC:E2:A6:2C:05:CB:1C:34:40:09:DE:87:99:26:16:C4:CA:33:F6:AB:1B:9A:70:D8:17:65:71:DC:E1:6B:94:76 because I have no certainty whatsoever that it indeed belongs to Crosswire. If the login were on HTTPS, a certificate signed by a CA trusted by Firefox trusted by me (for the issue at hand) would have been sufficient. I don't want to start a crypto discussion and fuel people into calling me paranoid. I doubt that further discussion on this matter will do any good. Blessings! Jaak ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Please update the link here if you have migrated your project
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: > > On 10.02.2016 19:00, DM Smith wrote: >> I don’t understand your HTTP-only comment regarding the wiki. It works just >> fine under HTTPS. Is your objection the self-signed certificate? > > I object to sending my login credentials over the wire in plain text. > Btw, the wiki login form didn't redirect to HTTPS. Thanks for the clarification. I’ll be updating the wiki to a newer version. I’ll see about ensuring that all login is done over HTTPS. I hadn’t noticed the problem as I always use https for websites unless they don’t work. — DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Wiki Maintenance
I’ll be working on upgrading the wiki to a more recent version. When I do, it’ll be down and/or locked. I’ll try to keep it to a minimum. Hopefully when it is done, login will require HTTPS. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
