[sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[domcox]

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
Berean Standard Bible

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This a new module. Version: 1.4

## What's new:
First public release

Many thanks to Timothy_Allen for the hard work.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

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[sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[domcox]

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
en

## Description:
Berean Standard Bible

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This is an update. Version: 1.5.1

## What's new:
Much improved reference-linking in footnotes, fixed an issue causing footnotes 
in headers to be empty in some apps.

Many thanks to Timothy_Allen for the hard work.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

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[sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[domcox]

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
Berean Standard Bible

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This is an update. Version: 1.6

## What's new:
- Translation updates
- Better footnote formatting.

Many thanks to Timothy_Allen for the hard work.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

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[sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[domcox]

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
Berean Standard Bible

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This is an update. Version: 1.7

## What's new:
Add annotations for Strong's numbers, original language text, and 
transliterations into the Latin alphabet.

Many thanks to Timothy_Allen for the hard work.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 12/4/23 03:27, dom...@crosswire.org wrote:

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB


I wanted to mention that the updated BSB has become effectively also 
BIB, the Berean Interlinear Bible, when viewed in Xiphos with lemmas 
enabled, where stacked display provides the interlinear view.
Screenshot of 1Tim.3 with lemmas enabled: 
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../bsb-interlinear.png


The only downside is that lemmas don't link to numeric Strong's entries. 
But you can enable Strong's as well to get that.


Several years ago, I had done initial work to create "draft" Berean 
Bible modules (BSBdraft, BIBdraft) -- "draft" because the *.xlsx weren't 
finalized at the time -- but this BSB is much superior, a fine end product.___
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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Timothy Allen]

Thank you for the kind words! My hope is that the BSB module would be 
useful enough and complete enough to be recommended by SWORD apps, or 
even (due to its liberal licensing) installed by default.


Xiphos should know what Strongs number is associated with each lemma (it 
draws them in the right place, after all), so in theory it should be 
possible for clicking on the lemma to look up the associated Strongs 
number with no change to the module. I'm rather fond of AndBible's 
approach where clicking a word looks up all the associated metadata 
(lemmas, Strongs numbers, grammar codes, etc.) in all available 
dictionaries, since the odds of a Strongs number being a valid grammar 
code or a grammar code being a valid lemma are extremely low - but that 
would probably be a bigger change.


There's one other piece of data included in the translation table 
spreadsheet that isn't yet included in the BSB module - grammar codes. 
The BSB is marked up with somewhat proprietary codes for Hebrew and 
Greek, while the SWORD Project ecosystem seems to have settled on Open 
Scriptures Hebrew Bible codes for Hebrew, and Robinson codes for Greek. 
Since both kinds of Hebrew codes model the same rules of Hebrew grammar, 
and both kinds of Greek codes model the same rules of Greek grammar, it 
should be possible to translate between them, it's just a lot of work 
and although I've had some ideas about how to help automate the process, 
I've been distracted by other things.


The other thing that occurred to me is the possibility of creating a 
more straightforward interlinear Bible, with the source text as the base 
and the English as the "gloss". That would allow the source text to be 
presented in its natural order (instead of following the order of 
English grammar), but it would *also* be a lot of work and I'm not sure 
if it would actually be very useful.



Timothy.

On 8/12/23 08:25, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:

On 12/4/23 03:27, dom...@crosswire.org wrote:

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB


I wanted to mention that the updated BSB has become effectively also 
BIB, the Berean Interlinear Bible, when viewed in Xiphos with lemmas 
enabled, where stacked display provides the interlinear view.
Screenshot of 1Tim.3 with lemmas enabled: 
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../bsb-interlinear.png


The only downside is that lemmas don't link to numeric Strong's 
entries. But you can enable Strong's as well to get that.


Several years ago, I had done initial work to create "draft" Berean 
Bible modules (BSBdraft, BIBdraft) -- "draft" because the *.xlsx 
weren't finalized at the time -- but this BSB is much superior, a fine 
end product.


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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Fr Cyrille]

Le 08/12/2023 à 06:09, Timothy Allen a écrit :


The other thing that occurred to me is the possibility of creating a 
more straightforward interlinear Bible, with the source text as the 
base and the English as the "gloss". That would allow the source text 
to be presented in its natural order (instead of following the order 
of English grammar), but it would *also* be a lot of work and I'm not 
sure if it would actually be very useful.



Personally, I find it useful to have a Greek-based interlinear. After 
all, you have the text as it really exists.


Timothy.

On 8/12/23 08:25, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:

On 12/4/23 03:27, dom...@crosswire.org wrote:

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB


I wanted to mention that the updated BSB has become effectively also 
BIB, the Berean Interlinear Bible, when viewed in Xiphos with lemmas 
enabled, where stacked display provides the interlinear view.
Screenshot of 1Tim.3 with lemmas enabled: 
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../bsb-interlinear.png


The only downside is that lemmas don't link to numeric Strong's 
entries. But you can enable Strong's as well to get that.


Several years ago, I had done initial work to create "draft" Berean 
Bible modules (BSBdraft, BIBdraft) -- "draft" because the *.xlsx 
weren't finalized at the time -- but this BSB is much superior, a 
fine end product.


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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 12/8/23 00:09, Timothy Allen wrote:
The other thing that occurred to me is the possibility of creating a 
more straightforward interlinear Bible, with the source text as the 
base and the English as the "gloss". That would allow the source text 
to be presented in its natural order (instead of following the order 
of English grammar), but it would *also* be a lot of work and I'm not 
sure if it would actually be very useful.


This is in fact what my BIBdraft module does. It wasn't a lot of work, 
really. But I was working from *.xslx, not USFM, so perhaps what's 
available or accessible in USFM is harder to work with.

http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../bibdraft.png

The view is more problematic in Hebrew than Greek due to the RtoL issue. 
And the module as a whole has to be given a specific RtoL nature, you 
can't configure that OT is RtoL and NT is LtoR. This means that the 
Hebrew is technically backward.___
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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 12/8/23 00:09, Timothy Allen wrote:
Xiphos should know what Strongs number is associated with each lemma 
(it draws them in the right place, after all), so in theory it should 
be possible for clicking on the lemma to look up the associated 
Strongs number with no change to the module.


The problem is that the filters provide auto-linkage to Strong's off the 
lemma gloss, which is meaningless since Strong's wants the number, not 
the word.___
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Re: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 12/8/23 00:09, Timothy Allen wrote:
My hope is that the BSB module would be useful enough and complete 
enough to be recommended by SWORD apps, or even (due to its liberal 
licensing) installed by default.


It would be good if their links.htm page 
(https://berean.bible/links.htm) would include a Sword Project reference 
in "BSB for Software."___
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