t-and-f: [Fwd:Rutto, Koech in Chicago Marathon]
From the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon: Original Message Subject: Evans Rutto Paul Koech Will Compete in 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:04:15 -0500 PRESS RELEASE EVANS RUTTO AND PAUL KOECH RETURN FOR THE 2004 RACE: Last year's first and second place finishers look to challenge world record Evans Rutto signs 2-year agreement to compete in Chicago CHICAGO (April 6, 2004)?Evans Rutto performed in last year's LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon as if he was ready to claim the streets of Chicago from veteran marathoner Khalid Khannouchi. Rutto will look to improve on his world record marathon debut time of 2:05:50 in the 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. Rutto and race officials reached agreement that will bring the 25-year-old Kenyan back to run the streets of Chicago and to chase the marathon world record at the 2004 and 2005 Chicago marathons. Rutto experienced such strong support and encouragement from the spectators that lined the 26.2-mile course that he is eager to defend his title. Last year I was overwhelmed by the support of the people of Chicago and very much enjoyed the beautiful city and the fast course, said Rutto. All of these things encourage me to be at the starting line again this year and I am more than happy to return to Chicago to defend my title. Having achieved great results last year in my debut marathon has inspired me to work hard to keep this tradition alive. Rutto was an underdog coming into last year's marathon. His longest distance prior to his debut was the half-marathon. But Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski, who has a long track-record for discovering and developing athletes, saw amazing potential in Rutto and convinced him to make his marathon debut in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon last year. Evans' victory in the 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon follows in the tradition of other great Chicago Champions, Steve Jones, Ondoro Osoro, and Khalid Khannouchi, commented Pinkowski. These athletes converted great track credentials and pure athletic ability into world leading performances in the marathon. Evans just scratched the surface of the marathon in 2003. Pinkowski feels Rutto could challenge the world record, especially with the new design of the 26.2-mile route. He ran well within himself, defeated a strong field, and made the marathon distance look easy last year. I believe he could have gone a minute faster if he needed too. His 2:05:50 effort illustrates that the redesigned LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon route is designed to host a world record attempt on October 10 this year. Rutto ran the eight fastest 10,000m in the world in June, 2000 (27:31:32), setting a personal record. He continued his outstanding performance at the 2001 Peoples Beach to Beacon 10K where he surged ahead of the lead group near the finish to win in 28:30, ahead of James Koskei (28:32) and defending champion Joseph Kimani (28:35). Rutto also won the 2001 Wharf to Wharf 6 mile and finished second in the Clarksburg 10K. He took third in the 2001 Cherry Blossom 10 Mile (46:26) and the Lisbon Half-Marathon (1:01:30). He also has run well in 2003. Also returning to compete in the 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is second-place finisher and fellow Kenyan Paul Koech. Koech, 34, who also made his marathon debut at last year's race finished just over a minute behind Rutto with a 2:07:07 performance, Koech has had a successful career and he will look to improve on his debut time in this year's race. Early in Paul Koech's career, he won a bronze medal at the 1995 All-African Games 10,000m. His career continued to excel, and in 1997, he set a personal best in the 3000m at the IAAF Grand Prix in Monaco and a personal best in the 10,000m at the IASF Grand Prix in Brussels. He went on to win the Dam to Dam 10 miles in 44:45. In 1998, he won the World Half-Marathon in 1:00:01, achieving a personal best for 13.1 miles. Koech's prestigious record continues. He took first in the 2002 Kenyan Armed Forces 12K Cross Country Championships. He finished third at the 2002 Crescent City 10K and won the Military Cross Country Championships in Rwanda. This past July, Koech finished fourth at the Utica Boilermaker 15K and second at the Falmouth 7.1-miler. Paul is another very talented athlete who has potential to be one of best in the business. As fellow Kenyan's, Paul and Evans have a friendly rivalry that will certainly make this year's LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon very exciting. Since Evans and Paul both now have marathon experience, I look for even stronger performances from both of them at this year's race, added Pinkowski. The 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon The 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon takes place Sunday, October 10 starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park. The race will be broadcast live on CBS 2 CHICAGO and ESPN 1000. Last year's race attracted the maximum 40,000 participants. Runners may
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: posts
No, he did: Subject: Re: t-and-f: posts Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:30:54 - From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Martin J. Dixon wrote: Ok now John's message is getting duplicated and it didn't get posted to the postmaster so I don't know what is going on. John Lunn wrote: What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Randall Northam wrote: Why am I getting so many repeats of yesterday and today's postings? Surely even Malmo can't be that thrilled with his question Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? for it to be repeated five or six times. Randall Northam
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: posts
No, he did: Subject: Re: t-and-f: posts Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:30:54 - From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Martin J. Dixon wrote: Ok now John's message is getting duplicated and it didn't get posted to the postmaster so I don't know what is going on. John Lunn wrote: What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Randall Northam wrote: Why am I getting so many repeats of yesterday and today's postings? Surely even Malmo can't be that thrilled with his question Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? for it to be repeated five or six times. Randall Northam
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: posts
No, he did: Subject: Re: t-and-f: posts Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:30:54 - From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Martin J. Dixon wrote: Ok now John's message is getting duplicated and it didn't get posted to the postmaster so I don't know what is going on. John Lunn wrote: What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Randall Northam wrote: Why am I getting so many repeats of yesterday and today's postings? Surely even Malmo can't be that thrilled with his question Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? for it to be repeated five or six times. Randall Northam
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: posts
No, he did: Subject: Re: t-and-f: posts Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:30:54 - From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Martin J. Dixon wrote: Ok now John's message is getting duplicated and it didn't get posted to the postmaster so I don't know what is going on. John Lunn wrote: What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Randall Northam wrote: Why am I getting so many repeats of yesterday and today's postings? Surely even Malmo can't be that thrilled with his question Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? for it to be repeated five or six times. Randall Northam
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: posts
No, he did: Subject: Re: t-and-f: posts Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:30:54 - From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Martin J. Dixon wrote: Ok now John's message is getting duplicated and it didn't get posted to the postmaster so I don't know what is going on. John Lunn wrote: What happens when Darkwing is on Viagra? Randall Northam wrote: Why am I getting so many repeats of yesterday and today's postings? Surely even Malmo can't be that thrilled with his question Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? for it to be repeated five or six times. Randall Northam
t-and-f: [Fwd: LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle Elite Field]
Spangler set to run as tune up for Olympic Marathon Trials; Creighton, Liss try to four-peat Original Message Subject: LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle Elite Field Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:56:50 -0600 THE 25th Anniversary LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle 8K SET FOR SUNDAY, MARCH 28 Field Includes Past Champions Chasing Four-Peats, Olympians and 20,000 Runners CHICAGO (March 9, 2004) ? The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle, the world's largest 8K race (4.97 miles), is set to take place Sunday, March 28 in Grant Park. This year marks the 25th Anniversary of this event that traditionally kicks off Chicago's running season. More than 20,000 runners are expected to witness two possible four-peat champions and a group of former and future Olympians. Ten-time Australian champion and two-time Olympian Shaun Creighton is making the trek from Australia to Chicago in order to defend the Men's title and take another stride towards history with a four-peat effort. For the past three years, Creighton, 36, has made Chicago a special place in March. Shaun has been phenomenal for our race and Chicago's reputation as a great city for runners, said Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski. This race could be extremely special for us with the possibility of crowning two four-time champions and our 25th Anniversary celebration happening in the same year. Three-time champion and Indiana-born Collette Liss, 31, is attempting to become the first four-time female champion. Liss won the 1999, 2000 and 2003 races. Course record holder (with a time of 25:25) Kathy Butler, 30, showed good form in her recent victory at The Reebok UK Intercounties held in Nottingham, England on March 6. Butler interrupted Liss' consecutive titles with her only LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle championship in 2001. Local running star from Lake Villa, Ill. and 1996 Olympic Marathon Trials winner, Jenny Spangler, 40, will use The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle as her final tune-up for this year's Olympic Trials being held the following weekend in St. Louis (Saturday, April 3). We are thrilled to have Jenny join us this year because her return to competitive racing is an inspiration to all of us in the Chicago area, added Pinkowski. This is a great opportunity for all her fans to see her before she goes to the Trials and hopefully on to her second appearance at the Summer Olympic Games in Athens. Coming off break-through performances at the U.S. Men's Olympic Marathon Trials, Hansons-Brooks Olympic Distance Project team members Trent Briney, 25, and Clint Verran, 28, look to upset Creighton in his quest for the four-peat. Brian Sell, 24, (also with the Hansons-Brooks team) fell short of stealing the Olympic Marathon Trials held in Birmingham, Ala. earlier this year, will attempt to change the finishing order of the race from a year ago when he finished second to Creighton. Race packet pick-up and race-weekend registration takes place at the Health Fitness Expo in the lower level Northwest exhibition halls of the Hilton Chicago located at 720 S. Michigan Ave. on Friday, March 26 from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. and Saturday, March 27 from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Admission to the Health Fitness Expo is free. There is no race-day packet pick-up or registration for the 8K race or the 5K walk. For the second consecutive year, The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle 8K Post-Race party will take place under a tent from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. in Grant Park (on the east side of Columbus Drive on Balbo). Poi Dog Pondering, who adopted Chicago as its home town in 1992, will rock the crowd during the Post-Race party. The Post-Race party is open for all registered participants and one guest per registered race participant. For more information on The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle 8K visit www.shamrockshuffle.com or call (312) 904-9814. # # #
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries?
It's a cyber stutter. malmo wrote: Now WHAT was that thing about the appeals process? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Scholarships and Injuries? Most Universities have an appeals process which athletes can invoke when scholarships are withdrawn unilaterally. I believe the NCAA requires the schools to have such a process and it is to be conducted by personnel not connected with the athletic department. Anyone else? Floyd Highfill New Mexico State University Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard of an instance of a U.S. collegiate vaulter whose athletics scholarship has been withdrawn because injuries sustained in practice and competition prevent her from vaulting. Obviously, this is a pretty sleazy move on the part of her coach and university, but I'm wondering how usual it is for this to happen. Does anyone know of other examples? Cheers? I think not. :-(
t-and-f: [Fwd:Chicago Marathon Increases Prize Purse to $650,000]
Original Message Subject: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Increases Prize Purse to $650,000 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:19:12 -0600 From: marathon.office LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON INCREASES PRIZE PURSE TO $650,000 Purse includes $125,000 to Top Finishers and $80,000 to Top Americans CHICAGO (February 5, 2004)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon will increase its guaranteed prize purse for the 2004 race to $650,000, which will include a $125,000 payout to the top male and female finisher. This is the highest guaranteed first place payout in the history of the sport. The 2004 prize purse also includes an increase in the American athlete bonus pool to $80,000. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has added more than $150,000 to the guaranteed purse the past two years. Nearly $1 million, which included the guaranteed purse, special time bonuses, and the American incentive pool, was paid out to the top performers in the 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. Although the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon continues to reward top performing athletes through its handsome prize purse, it has never swayed from its commitment to developing American athletes in the sport. Keeping with this tradition, the event's American Development Bonus purse increases to $80,000 this year and will reward the top 5 male and female finishers. Last year's purse totaled $55,000 and rewarded only the top 3 male and female finishers. The top American male and female finisher will receive $10,000 each. The payout then descends by $1,000 for the second, third, fourth, and fifth place, with the fifth place finisher receiving $6,000. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is pleased to continue its tradition of rewarding top performing athletes and we are confident that this year's purse will once again attract world-class athletes, remarked Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski. We have always had a strong commitment to supporting and developing American athletes. We are building off the success of past bonus programs and are pleased to further our commitment to American athletes by providing more breadth and depth to the American Development pool this year. Chicago has been and will continue to be the foundation for many U.S. athletes for years to come. In 2003, more than $120,000 was paid out to 42 American athletes who met the U.S. Olympic qualifying standard time at the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. The race announced a special bonus pool shortly before last year's event designed to help fund the cost of competing in the U.S. Olympic Trials (which take place this weekend) to American athletes who met either the A-standard or B-standard qualifying times in Chicago. Seventy American athletes who met the qualifying standards and who will compete in the Olympic trials achieved the qualifying standard time in Chicago. More impressively, 7 of the top 15 eligible American men competing in the trials qualified for them in Chicago, including Alan Culpepper with a time of 2:09:41 at the 2002 race and Meb Keflezighi with a time of 2:09:41 at the 2003 race. Similarly, 2 of 3 top American women qualified in Chicago at the 2003 race: Colleen De Reuck with a time of 2:28:01 and Deeja Youngquist with a time of 2:29:01. Other notable American performances in Chicago include Khalid Khannouchi's American Record of 2:05:56 set in 2002 and Joan Benoit-Samuelson's former American Record holding win of 2:20:21 set in 1985. There is a very talented pool of American athletes that will be competing in the U.S. Olympic Trials and I'm very proud that some of them have participated in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, said Pinkowski. It is important for our event and the sport to provide opportunities for and support to American athletes to help them achieve their full athletic potential. By continually furthering our commitment to both the American and open divisions, the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon will draw the best American and international athletes in the sport. The 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon The 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon takes place Sunday, October 10 starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park. The race will be broadcast live on CBS 2 CHICAGO and ESPN 1000. Last year's race attracted the maximum 40,000 participants. Runners may register online at www.chicagomarathon.com until September 2, 2004, or when the participation capacity has been reached (whichever comes first). Race weekend entries will not be accepted. Printed entry forms for mail-in registration will be available in the spring of this year. The entrance fee for the Marathon is $80 for U.S. runners and $90 for international runners; the registration fee for the International Fun Run 5K, held during race weekend, is $15 for both U.S. and international participants. Senior citizens, ages 60 and older, receive a $5 discount. In addition, a $5 discount will be offered to participants who register using their MasterCard credit
t-and-f: Girly boys at Footlocker???
From Footlocker winner Matt Withrow's journal: When we got back to the hotel we had a lot of free time before the banquet. A lot of the girls went shopping with their parents, while a lot of the guys decided to stay back and pursue other activities. We actually ended up having a bunch of guys packed in one room watching Suzy Favor-Hamilton and Scott MacPherson pierce a bunch of guys' ears with a safety pin. They did Brian Sullivan and Kyle Miller (who screamed like a girl). http://www.illinoisrunner.com/04trackwithrowjournal.html
t-and-f: Interesting match ups at national XC
The USA Track Field Cross Country Championships has some interesting match ups, doubles, and Gabriel Jennings. http://usatf.org/events/2004/USAXCChampionships/entry/status.asp
t-and-f: Shot put returns to the Garden
A PRO SPORTS Entertainment Inc. Event 97th annual VERIZON MILLROSE GAMES Madison Square Garden, New York, NY Friday, Feb. 6, 2004 VERIZON MILLROSE GAMES SHOT PUT COMPETITION RETURNS TO MADISON SQUARE GARDEN IN 2004 FOR FIRST TIME IN 15 YEARS NEW YORK, N.Y., Jan. 26, 2004 -- After a 15-year absence, the Men's Shot Put will return to the friendly confines of Madison Square Garden for the 97th annual Verizon Millrose Games on Friday, Feb. 6. Since 1990, the Millrose Games shot put competition has been held at Manhattan College. This year's field consists of 2000 Olympic silver medalist Adam Nelson, America's newest 70-footer, Christian Cantwell, the New York Athletic Club's Reese Hoffa, and 68'10 putter Jamie Beyer. Since 2000, Nelson has added the 2001 World Championships indoor/outdoor silver medals and a 2003 World Championships silver medal to his collection. Cantwell, a six-time All-American at Missouri, beat the world's best last summer in winning the 2003 IAAF Grand Prix Final. Hoffa is the 2003 Pan American Games Champion and record holder. Iowa State grad Beyer has added almost 7-feet to his personal best since 2000. In order, they have personal bests of 73' 10 1/4, 70' 11 1/4, 68' 8 3/4, and 68' 10 3/4. These four athletes rank among the top ten shot putters in the world, so we thought it was the right time to bring track field's most explosive event back to the Garden, says meet organizer Skip Stolley. It's going to be an exciting competition that will showcase some of our best prospects for Olympic medals next summer in Athens. Held annually since 1908, the Verizon Millrose Games is the nation's longest running invitational track meet, the Garden's longest running sporting event, and a highlight of USA Track Field's annual Golden Spike Tour. This year's Verizon Millrose Games will also feature several new events, including the first-ever Fastest Kid in New York City dashes for 8 and 9 year olds, Public School Athletic League Mayor's Cup relays, and special invitational college relays. Other innovations include ramped-up in-arena music and entertainment. In addition, fans will be closer than ever to the stars as, for the first time, athletes will be taking their victory laps on the second- and third-floor concourses within the arena. The Verizon Millrose Games features men's and women's sprints, hurdles, middle-distance races, the pole vault, high jump, and men's shot put. The meet's most celebrated event-the Wanamaker Mile-is named for meet founder Rodman Wanamaker who gave the first trophy for the once popular 1 * mile race in 1916. In 1926, the event became the Wanamaker Mile and the signature event of the Verizon Millrose Games. Recent Verizon Millrose Games participants include 2000 Olympic gold medalists Maurice Greene, Jon Drummond, Nick Hysong, Stacy Dragila, and Chandra Sturrup. Other notable athletes who have participated in past Millrose Games include Jesse Owens, Mary Decker-Slaney, Renaldo Nehemiah, Carl Lewis, and Jackie Joyner-Kersee. The Garden faithful have witnessed 87 world indoor records, 117 Millrose winners who have been Olympic Champions, and 89 sub-4 minute miles. Tickets can be purchased by: · Visiting the Madison Square Garden Box Office or calling (212) 465-6741 · Calling the following local Ticketmaster outlets and charge-by-phone numbers: (212) 307-7171, (201) 507-8900, (914) 454-3388 and (203) 624-0033 · Logging-on to www.verizonmillrosegames.com Ticket prices are $15, $30, $40, $50, $70 and $90. Ticket prices in excess of $15 include a $4.50 facility surcharge. Ticketmaster purchases are subject to a Ticketmaster Service Charge. Pro Sports Entertainment Inc., an owner/operator of live entertainment events with offices in Santa Barbara and Los Angeles, California, acquired ownership of the Verizon Millrose Games in September 2003. Verizon, a leader in telecommunication services around the world, has been title sponsor of the event since 2001. For more information about the Verizon Millrose Games log-on to www.verizonmillrosegames.com. # # #
Re: t-and-f: Distance and Sprint Dominance
Modern African proverb not yet plagiarized by Sen. Clinton: It takes a whole village to moderate a track list. malmo wrote: Dan, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean we're still not out to get you. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaplan Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Distance and Sprint Dominance Well, the t-and-f list has officially gone to shit. Apparently no one can read anymore, let alone conduct themselves politely. I don't particuarly agree with the ol' adage, but I don't think that's exactly what it is saying. The gist of the argument is... Very first thing I said. If it's unclear to anyone that I was clarifying the argument, not stating my own position, then I suggest you enroll in remedial preschool classes. --- edndana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is a load of crap. --- Steve Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliantly naive. My guess is that you've never seen a sprinter train. A couple of strides, a high knee or two and some stretching right? --- malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy Steve, Dan's a novice fan. Morons (with the possible exception of Ed, who I can't tell if he was disagreeing with me or not). I expect it from Malmo, but anyone else sinking to that level of stupidity should be ashamed of themselves. Steve, try thinking before opening your mouth. I coached sprinters for 4 years, which should answer your idiotic question. And no, Malmo, you can't just delete threads here that disagree with you like on letsrun.com. Your attitude is on record for everyone to see. G'day. Dan = http://AbleDesign.com - Web Design Custom Programming http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy TF @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Re: t-and-f: This is reasonably big-Jerome Young fallout
I am waiting for a reply to this question from someone who might know the answer to this, but what does the following mean? Was there not a B sample positive on Young? Or, does this mean only one athlete from the U.S. 2000 OT tested positive for nandrolone? * A review of documents related to the case indicates that only one sample from the USATF championships on June 26, 1999 came back positive for nandrolone, at levels at least 30 times greater than the legal limit, perhaps as high as 50 times greater. A definitive reading has not surfaced. * Martin J. Dixon wrote: Walt Murphy shipped this around apparently: The USOC has handed down a three-part series of sanctions, including the suspension of about $3 million that flows annually from the USOC to USATF. http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/la-sp-track17jan17,1,5590302.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-olympics
t-and-f: [Fwd: LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON NEWS RELEASE]
Original Message Subject: LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON NEWS RELEASE Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:08:50 -0600 From: THE LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON THE LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON PARTNERS WITH ACTIVE.COM FOR ONLINE REGISTRATION Five-Year Deal Gives Top U.S. Marathon New Services For its Participants and Spectators; Services Extend to The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle CHICAGO ? LA JOLLA, CA ? January 7, 2004 ? The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, Chicago's premier 26.2 mile road race and one of the largest and most popular marathons in the world, has partnered with Active.com. Through a five-year agreement, Active.com ? one of the largest providers of online registration for participatory sports ? will provide online registration, electronic marketing and data management services for The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle. Online registration for both events is open now and can be accessed through the race Web sites (www.chicagomarathon.com, www.shamrockshuffle.com). The LaSalle Bank Shamrock Shuffle is March 28, 2004 and The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is October 10, 2004. We're looking forward to working with Active.com to not only bring technology innovations to our participants, but also provide the reliability, stability and technology infrastructure that comes with being a leader in the endurance sports market, said Event Chairman and Chief Marketing Officer of LaSalle Bank Mark A. Nystuen. One innovation for the nearly one million spectators and fans who will follow The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is Active.com's Runner Update Network (RUN) service. Customized for LaSalle Bank, the new service will include better ways for friends, family and fans to track runners' progress during the race. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon will utilize other Active.com services, including customized online registration; e-mail communications and list management for ongoing electronic marketing; virtual training; and race results. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is entrusting us to provide the highest quality data management services so participants and spectators can fully enjoy the race experience. This isn't an easy decision for any race organizer and we are truly excited for this opportunity, said Jon Belmonte, chief operating officer for Active.com's parent company, The Active Network. The LaSalle Bank races are known for their great community spirit and every participant, sponsor, volunteer and city official receives first-class treatment. We're looking forward to continuing this commitment, while taking these services to a new level. About Active.com Event organizers in multiple sports use Active.com's services for online registration and donation processing, data management, and event promotion. Active.com Event Services (www.active.com/myevent) currently works with hundreds of events in the Chicago area and has recently added such Chicago favorites as the 7th Annual Chicago Race for the Cure, Chicago Distance Classic, Chicago Half Marathon, and Chicago Quarter Marathon. For participants, Active.com offers one of the Web's best resources to find, learn about and register online for participatory sports and recreational activities nationwide. This service is highlighted at ChicagoWorksOut.com, where Active.com provides a searchable calendar of Chicago-area participatory events and activities. Part of The Active Network, Active.com (www.active.com) has deep ties in the industry and a solid history in participatory sports and event management. For more information about The Active Network, visit www.theactivenetwork.com. About The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon The 2004 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon begins Sunday, October 10 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park. CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. race day. For more information, go to www.chicagomarathon.com. # # #
Re: t-and-f: National Depth Trivial Pursuits?
With the exception of Roger, has everyone gone into a lurking mode? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this will bring the board alive. Where's Martin Dan K? happy new year
t-and-f: O'Sullivan wants to run for Australia
Interesting. Will Ireland get a kick back like Kenya gets with its transfers? ... Sonia O'Sullivan wants to run for Australia in the Melbourne 2006 Commonwealth Games. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/08/1070732143117.html
Re: t-and-f: Billy Mills's Video
I am sure that when non track fans - could there be such a thing? - see the Billy Mills movie, they probably think it is a made-for-TV, work of fiction. JD, a high school XC teammate of mine from the 70s who now works for the U.S. Geological Survey, sent me the web site. Yes, when ever I see the clip, I still get the chills, too. What a great recruiting tool the movie would be at the jr. high school level. Gerald Woodward wrote: Mike,It still gives me chills and thrills to watch Billy Mills win this race again as I watched it on TV back then. To see one of America's greatest distance runners meet the challenges and road blocks thrown in his way to win America's ONLY Olympic gold medal in the 10K!I know many will challenge that he is not the "greatest" from the standpoint of time, but he clearly stepped out of the box and performed at his very best in the greatest test he faced on the track, the Olympic Finals against the very best in the world at 10K! That in itself is the standard of greatness!Woody
t-and-f: [Fwd: USATF Release: Sullivan named Athlete of the Week]
Congrats to Brian Sullivan's dad and a t-and-f lister, a.k.a. the "Other Sully" on this list. This makes (at least) two of the four Foot Locker Regionals with Chicago South Side connections. Midwest FL Regional winner Matt Withrow is from Andrew H.S. (Tinley Park, Ill.) on the South Side. Brian Sullivan's dad was a teammate of mine at Thornridge H.S. (Dolton, Ill.) also on the South Side and not far from Tinley Park. A job transfer moved the Other Sully to Texas, a bad trade for Illinois;) Original Message Subject: USATF Release: Sullivan named Athlete of the Week Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:40:53 -0500 From: "USATF Communications" Organization: USA Track Field To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact: />USA Track Field http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Tuesday, December 2, 2003 Sullivan named Athlete of the Week INDIANAPOLIS Brian Sullivan has been named USA Track Fields Athlete of the Week after winning the Foot Locker Cross Country Championships South Regional Saturday, November 29 atMcAlpineGreenwayPark inCharlotte,North Carolina. Sullivan, a senior at The Woodlands High School (Texas) and one of the top returning entrants, dominated the race from start to finish in 14 minutes, 46 seconds.His performance was three seconds behind the course record of14:43 set in 2000 by Alan Webb.Sullivan placed sixth in last year's Regional. Now in its third year, USATFs Athlete of the Week program is designed to recognize outstanding performers at all levels of the sport.USATF names a new honoree each week and features the athlete on the USATF website. Selections are based on top performances and results from the previous week. 2003 USATF Athlete of the Week Winners: January 7, J-Mee Samuels; January 14, Kevin Toth; January 21, Michelle Collins; January 28, Natasha Hastings; February 4, Regina Jacobs; February 11, Gail Devers; February 18, Terrence Trammell; February 25, James Davis; March 4, Stacy Dragila; March 11,Deena Drossin; March 18, Michelle Collins; March 25, Brenda Taylor; April 1,Deena Drossin; April 8,Shawn Crawford; April 15,Deena Drossin; April 22, Kevin Toth; April 29, Torri Edwards; May 6, Allyson Felix; May 13,Matt Hemingway; May 20, Bershawn Jackson; May 27, Tisha Waller; June 3, Sanya Richards; June 10, Tim Seaman; June 17, Daniel Lincoln; June 25, Kelli White; July 1, Grace Upshaw; July 8, Allen Johnson; July 15, Jason Richardson; July 22, Shalonda Solomon; July 30, Jamie Nieto; August 5, Bianca Knight; August 12, Kim Kreiner; August 19, Chryste Gaines; August 27, Kelli White; September 3, Allen Johnson; September 9, Sandra Glover; September 16, Gail Devers; September 22, Justin Gatlin; September 30, Eddy Hellbuyck; October 7, Blake Russell; October 14, Elva Dryer; October 21, Nick Bdera; October 28, Bradley Harkrader; November 4, Sean P. Diddy Combs; November 11, Bob Kennedy; November 18, Joshua McDougal; November 25, Shalane Flanagan; December 2, Brian Sullivan. # # #
t-and-f: [Fwd: Pappas, Drossin Kastor win Jesse Owens Awards]
Original Message Subject: USATF Teleconference Excerpts - 2003 Jesse Owens Awards Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:49:45 -0500 From: "USATF Communications" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003 Jesse Owens Awards teleconference excerpts USA Track Field on Monday announced Tom Pappas andDeena DrossinKastor as winners of the 2003 Jesse Owens Awards. Pappas and DrossinKastor appeared Monday afternoon on a USATF media teleconference. Below are excerpts from the teleconference. A full, digital audio replay also will be posted online at www.usatf.org. Also visit www.usatf.org for the full press release announcing the awards. TOM PAPPAS Q: What is your reaction to winning the Jesse Owens Award? Tom Pappas: This is quite an honor. I was looking at the previous winners, and to have my name put up alongside those guys is definitely exciting for me. I noticed I was the first decathlete to win it, which was a nice feeling. This is a huge award. For me, this is as big as it gets, to win the Jesse Owens Award and be named the male athlete of the year in theU.S. There were many great performances Allen Johnson, Dwight Phillips winning World Indoor and Outdoor. I thought I had a chance, but to be voted the athlete of the year was a huge achievement for me. Q: Will you compete again at the World Indoor Championships in 2004? Tom Pappas: I will compete in the World Indoors. I think thats definitely a meet that gets me ready for the outdoor season. I wouldnt want to change anything. Last year at World Indoors was a great meet. I felt like I still left a lot of points out there. Q: Other decathletes have become multimedia superstars. Youre a humble guy; what kind of opportunities do you think might come your way? Tom Pappas: Ive already had a lot of things come my way. I am of Greek descent, and I think thats the biggest thing on everyones mind. Its always been my goal to the win the Olympics, and I think some good things would be in store if I could pull it off. Q: Have you gotten inquiries from the Greek media? A: Through my web site, about 75 percent of my emails are from Greeks media or fans. They are mostly fromGreece, but I get several from Greek Americans as well. Ive never been there (to Greece). Q: What event is there the most room for improvement? A: Definitely the 1,500. My shoulder was bothering me in the javelin last year. If I can get my shoulder better so I can practice, that should be a huge event for me. I think my biggest improvements will come in the technical, second-day events. Q: Did you have shoulder surgery afterParis? Tom Pappas: Yes I did. It was bothering me all of 2003. I had an MRI and they decided nothing was really wrong. They went in and scoped it. The rotator cuff and tendons were fine. There was some fraying of cartilage they cleaned up, and that was about it. Its been about 8 weeks since the surgery, and Im back to pretty much all of the normal lifts. Q: Does being the reigning World Champion affect how you approach the Olympics? Tom Pappas: To end the season with the confidence I have right now is a good thing, but it wont change the way I compete. DEENA DROSSIN KASTOR Q: What is your reaction to winning the Jesse Owens Award? Deena Drossin Kastor: To win this award is very flattering. Its the greatest honor in track and field, so its extraordinary to think of my name joining that list. Its extremely humbling. It was an incredible year that I was able to reach some of my goals. Q: What have you learned from the marathon distance? Deena Drossin Kastor: The marathon is extremely humbling. I dont think anybody can say theyve conquered it completely. Theres always something in that race to lessen the perfection of it, to keep you coming back for more thinking you can do better next time. Q: When you were running in high school, could you imagine yourself winning these honors? Deena Drossin Kastor: I guess not. What keeps me coming back year after year is hat my goals keep elevating and escalating. Thats what athletics is all about. Any athlete on any level will admit that the Olympics are always in the back of their mind, even at the young age of 11, when I started. Q: What will you focus on at the Olympic Trials? Deena Drossin Kastor: As of right now, the marathon is my main focus, but I plan on running the 10 and 5 km on the track. I will definitely go in the marathon if I get in the top 3 at the Trials. If I feel good after the Olympic marathon, I would like to run a fall marathon as well. Q: What is your thinking in making the marathon your emphasis right now. Deena Drossin Kastor: I think its my strongest chance at earning a medal for theUnited States. I wrote out a list of pros and cons, and at the top of the list of pros is that its my best chance for a medal. Q: Where will your biggest improvements come? Deena Drossin Kastor: The
Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules
Yea, but MLB will have to start using a Chicago-style softball to keep the ball from being hit into orbit. Jorma Kurry wrote: The good news is, if the steroid usage keeps up, there may soon be no more juiced balls in MLB. - Original Message - Even after the first test - what is the punishment - TREATMENT? MLB is a joke and the constant work stoppages are just one problem. The balls may be juiced, but no more so than the players!
Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules
And this was mainly Spring Training testing, pre-THG. What would the avg. number per team be if MLB retested for THG? Michael Bartolina wrote: 7% of 1438 athletes tested is 100 athletes! They had 100 positives and they were not trying to catch anyone! Imagine how many guys have used in the past and just happened to be clean for the test! I feel unable to use any other punctuation than 's 100 positives! 100 positives! 100 positives! That averages out to 3 or 4 positives per team.
t-and-f: [Fwd: Marathon World Ranking System]
Original Message Subject: Marathon World Ranking System Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:29:07 -0600 From: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Chooses Not to Support the Proposed World Marathon Ranking System London, Berlin and Boston Marathons Share Decision CHICAGO (November 12, 2003)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, along with the London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons, has chosen to not support the new world marathon ranking point system proposed by a major marathon title sponsor last week. The Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons believe such a ranking system could raise the profile of the sport, but must be organized and administered by an independent organization rather than an event title sponsor. We value the importance and critical component of sponsor involvement in the sport of marathoning and we have worked very hard to get to this level through the years, said Carey Pinkowski, executive race director for the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. Using an independent body is the only way to fairly and systematically implement such a ranking system. Furthermore, this will allow all major marathons to participate without infringing upon title sponsor's commitments. Another challenge to this proposed world ranking system is that the Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons were not included in any preliminary planning discussions. Each marathon's race director was asked to make an on-the-spot decision as to their support, involvement, and participation in the system. It was frustrating for me not to have been involved in the development of this concept or asked to participate in the planning process, added Pinkowski. If all the race directors were involved in the initial discussions, we could have added more value to the proposed system and perhaps reached a more favorable outcome for the entire sport, which is precisely what this world-class sport deserves. The Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons hope with added discussion a collective decision-making process can be developed that will allow all major marathons to participate in such a system. If organized and implemented properly, a system like this would bring the sport together throughout the world and be a welcomed advancement. # # #
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
My kids' school district has been using a math curriculum developed by the University of Chicago. Apparently none of the UC nor UCTC people on this list were consulted. Jim Gerweck wrote: Mike, ya gotta follow the word problem - place the decimal point. 41.3 km comes up a little more than half a mile short of the requisite distance - but then, maybe the same folks writing it think the marathon is exactly 26 miles. Jim ...I don't know about that Jim...seems to me that 413 kilos is an awfully long marathon2:32...what pace does that work out to for 413 kilometers?? MF -Original Message- From: Jim Gerweck To: Track List Sent: 11/12/2003 4:24 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math on 11/11/03 10:21 PM, Mike Prizy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 seconds. She ran a distance of 413 kilometers. Well, I guess the Russians are known for cutting the course ;-) -- Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
If these questions are for my son's third grade class, I would like to omit No. 3 until after they have their family living lecture in the sixth grade. sprintfinish wrote: The questions seem a little outdated. A more pertinent test might read as follows: 1. A test is conducted for a previously undetectable designer drug. What percentage of World Championship competitors will test positive? 2. A 40 year old woman runs 1500m in under 4 minutes. How much tetrahydrogestrinone will accidentally find its way into her urine sample? 3. A man wishes to run 100 metres in under 10 seconds. How many litres of beer should he drink on the previous night? (Answer may also be expressed in quantity of sexual partners)
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
The lactate query might be more of a group project for him and his buds. But he takes his math with the fourth graders. Maybe someone there knows;) malmo wrote: Wow, that's pretty tough for a nine year old. Would require a little research on the internet. I still haven't found one student of exercise physiology who could tell me how many milligrams of lactate is 4.0 millimoles/liter. So much for advanced science. I'll bet your kid could? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:21 PM To: Track List Subject: t-and-f: My third grader's math My 9-year-old son asked me to help him with his third-grade math. He is studying decimals. This particular section asked the students to correctly place the decimal in each word problem. Of the 23 possible answers, three were about track and field, one was on auto racing, and no other sports were included. Our sport still has hope in the United States! Part A No. 2 - Linford Christie ran the 100-meter dash in 996 seconds in the 1992 Olympics. No. 3 - In the Same Olympics, Jan Zelezny threw the javelin 294166 feet. No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 seconds. She ran a distance of 413 kilometers.
Re: t-and-f: 2004 Club XC Championships
Isn't it where the 2004 national convention - Portland, Ore. - is? Tony Banovich wrote: Question for anyone out there who may know. Has the location/date/etc. of the 2004 Club XC Champs been set? Or, will that not be determined until the annual meeting in December. Thanks Tony Tony Banovich Billings, Montana
Re: t-and-f: Track v other sports
But does the Easter Bloc occur at the same time in the northern and southern hemispheres? malmo wrote: The Easter Bloc occurs on the first Sunday after the first full on or after the Spring Equinox. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randall Northam Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:10 AM To: Dan Kaplan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Track v other sports Dan I think this discussion has gone far enough without bringing religion into it. Some of don't even know when Easter is next year so we are at a disadvantage - guilty until proven inoccent you might say - when it comes to the dissolution of what I understand is an important Christian festival. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 19:25 Europe/London, Dan Kaplan wrote: I've always felt the plateau of various events' marks is easily explained by the dissolution of the Easter Bloc.
t-and-f: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Olympic Payout
Release from the LBCM: Original Message Subject: The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Olympic Payout Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:23:33 -0600 LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON PAYS OUT $115,000 TO AMERICAN OLYMPIC HOPEFULS Nearly 40 Athletes Earned U.S. Olympic Marathon Qualifying Standard CHICAGO (October 29, 2003)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon helped many American runners continue their Olympic dreams by providing a cash bonus for U.S. Olympic Standard qualifying times. A total payout of $115,000 was given to 39 American runners who met the required times for the 2004 U.S. Olympic Trials at The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. We focused on supporting our male and female American marathon runners with this incentive program because we knew this year was a special year with the U.S. Olympic Trials coming up, said Carey Pinkowski, executive race director. It's financially challenging for these athletes to properly train for these Trials and pay their bills, so we hope this money will offer them assistance to achieve their Olympic goals. The Marathon paid $3,500 to every American male who had a sub 2:20:00 effort (the A U.S. Trials Standard), $2,500 to every American male who had a sub 2:22:00 effort (the B U.S. Trials Standard), $3,500 to every American female who had a sub 2:40:00 effort (the A U.S. Trials Standard) and $2,500 to every American female who had a sub 2:48:00 effort (the B U.S. Trials Standard). There were 22 men (10 A standard and 12 B standard) who received a payout and 18 women (five A standard and 13 B standard). The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon had the most qualifying times for any 2003 marathon for both men (36) and women (33). (Some runners qualify more than once.) The American runners who achieved their Olympic Standard were pleased with the outcome of the race and seemed grateful for the added bonus. The Chicago Marathon has always been extremely supportive of all its runners, regardless of ability and this is one more example, said Brian Sell who is a part of the HANSONS-Brooks Distance Project based in Rochester Hills, Mich. I just wanted to remain competitive throughout the entire race and I was able to achieve my Olympic Standard. The next step is the Trials and the Marathon is helping me get there. There were a lot of American women who finished in a pack for the 'B' Standard. I think there were about 15 of us right around the 2:48:00 mark, said Lucie Mays from Carmel, Ind. It was an overwhelming experience for all us to celebrate right after the finish line knowing we were all going to the Trials and even better we got some extra money. The men and women U.S. Olympic Standard qualifiers are all listed below. Male A Standard Qualifiers Male B Standard Qualifiers Dan Browne, Portland, Ore. Paul Aufdemberge, Redford, Mich. Josh Cox, El Cajon, Calif Trent Briney, Utica, Mich. Peter Clusener, Arcata, Calif. Edmund Burke, Burtonville, Md. Mike Donnelley, Portland, Ore. Nick Cordes, Utica, Mich. Peter Gilmore, Menlo Park, Calif. Rod DeHaven, Madison, Wisc. Jason Lehmkuhle, St. Paul, Minn.Nick Gramsky, McLean, Va. Mebrahtom Keflezighi, Mamoth Lakes, Calif. Mark Manz, Kiel, Wisc. Steven Moreno, Oakland, Calif. Matthew Marcini, NY Todd Reeser, Rochester, NYTom McGlynn, Burlingame, Calif. Brian Sell, Utica, Mich. Terrance Shea, Somerville, Mass. Kevin Taylor, Raleigh, NC Female A Standard Qualifiers Female B Standard Qualifiers Colleen DeReuck, Boulder, Colo. Mina Caron, Andover, Mass. Kimberly Fitchen-Young, Santa Cruz, Calif. Mimi Fallon, Walpole, Mass. Rachel Sauder-Kinsman, Archbold, Ohio Katy Hollbacher, San Francisco, Calif. Jenny Spangler, Gurnee, Ill.Heather Hunt, Englewood, Colo. Deeja Youngquist, Alburquerque, NMNicole Kulikov, Fort Collins, Colo. Michelle Lafleur, Savannah, Ga. Erica Larson, Los Alamos, NM Susan Loken, Phoenix, Ariz. Lucie Mays, Carmel, Ind. Doreen McCoubie, Malvern, Penn. Zika Palmer, Blowing Rock, NC Julia Stamps, NY Jennifer Tonkin, Seattle, Wash. # # #
t-and-f: ACSM on steroid use
From ACSM: October 23, 2003 For immediate release STEROIDS THREATEN HEALTH OF ATHLETES AND INTEGRITY OF SPORTS PERFORMANCE American College of Sports Medicine Calls for Increased Vigilance in Identifying and Eradicating Steroid Use INDIANAPOLIS ? The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) today condemned the development and use of new designer steroids. ACSM considers chemicals, such as the recently identified Tetrahydrogestrinone, or THG, developed and cloaked to avoid detection by doping tests, as serious threats to the health and safety of athletes, as well as detriments to the principle of fair play in sports. Any effort to veil or disguise steroid use in sports through stealth, designer, or precursor means, puts elite, amateur and even recreational athletes at risk. The health risks associated with steroid use are severe. Anabolic steroid use has been implicated in early heart disease, including sudden death, the increase of bad cholesterol profiles (increased LDL, lower HDL), an increase in tendon injuries, liver tumors, testicular atrophy, gynecomastia (abnormal enlargement of breasts in males), male pattern baldness, severe acne, premature closure of growth plates in adolescents, emotional disturbances and other significant health risks. The health risks of designer steroids compared to or beyond symptoms of anabolic steroid use are currently unknown. No one knows the extent of this yet, said Gary I. Wadler, M.D., FACSM. If there is one great concern that THG has exposed, its the potential that other non-detectable anabolic steroids may be in the pipeline. The scientific and public health implications of this issue are quite disconcerting. Wadler, an ACSM sports medicine physician who serves on the Health, Medical and Research Committee of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and is a leading international authority on doping in sports, says the appearance of these new drugs and their use models dangerous behavior, potentially causing physical and psychological damage to young athletes. ACSM calls for national compliance with the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) regulations and to the World Anti-doping Code. Further, the College stresses the need for clean athletes, those not taking performance-enhancing drugs or supplements, to publicly deplore the use of steroids among their teammates and peers. ACSM underscores the critical leadership role clean athletes can take in disavowing performance-enhancing drug use and advocating fair play to protect the integrity of sports competition. Other individuals who influence young athletes, such as parents and coaches, should establish a no-tolerance policy for performance-enhancing substances, and intervene whenever necessary. In the past 20 years, sports governing bodies have made substantial efforts to eradicate steroid use. Drug testing implemented by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, for example, has been instrumental in decreasing the use of steroids among college athletes. Last year, ACSM called for mandatory testing for steroid use in Major League Baseball. (ACSMs Position Stand, The Use of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids in Sports, ACSM condemns the use of these drugs among athletes. To read a copy of this Position Stand, please visit http://www.acsm-msse.org). Yet, information gathered very recently, over just the past few years, indicates an upward trend in steroid use among amateur athletes at the college and even high school levels. ACSM will conduct a national news teleconference, Friday, October 24, 2003 at 1:00 p.m. EDT to address the issues of athlete health, the importance of fair play, and the call for increased vigilance on the part of athletes, coaches, parents, and others. Participants will include Wadler, ACSM President-elect William O. Roberts, M.D., FACSM, and Andrew Pipe, M.D., FACSM, Chairman of the Canadian Center for Ethics in Sport. The American College of Sports Medicine is the largest sports medicine and exercise science organization in the world. More than 20,000 International, National, and Regional members are dedicated to advancing and integrating scientific research to provide educational and practical applications of exercise science and sports medicine. -30-
Re: t-and-f: more or less cheating
Hey! Hey! I resemble that remark! No one got hurt - yet. Besides, it was Sox fans that attacked the umpire. We are still waiting on the results of the B sample from the designer brats. Martin J. Dixon wrote: Oh come on Randy. We aren't neanderthal Cubs' fans. Randy Treadway wrote: Looking at the darker side of recent developments, I wonder if UCLA (or USADA) is providing a security guard for Catlin and his team? When large amounts of money are at stake, snakes tend to come out of their holes ...see the recent unsolicited offer by some Russian emigre to Kobe Bryant to knock off the Colorado woman for a healthy fee... RT
Re: t-and-f: Chambers positive
Get ready for the Stone Age or BC Olympics, as in nothing but B and C teams in Greece. Martin J. Dixon wrote: Dwain Chambers, the fastest man in Europe and one of Britain's main hopes for an Olympic gold medal next year, has tested positive for a new banned designer... http://sport.guardian.co.uk/athletics/story/0,10082,1068204,00.html
Re: t-and-f: Chambers positive
Yea, typical overreaction, because this is just another typical lab raid. But, I don't overreact for every lab raid, just the raids that involve multi government agencies, NGBs and other agencies secretly collaborating, when possibly a few thousand drug screens will be retested, and only when 40 or more athletes get subpoenaed to testify. Other than that, I didn't overreact for any of the lab raids we had last month. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get ready for the Stone Age or BC Olympics, as in nothing but B and C teams in Greece. Typical overreaction. So far no names have been kicked around that weren't involved with Conte. So who all is a member of that club that Conte and Chambers were involved with? Even if we lose Montgomery, Toth, Marion, Chambers and some others, why wouldn't it still be an exciting Olympics? I don't need them. I'd rather watch a bunch of honest athletes producing circa-1958 performances than a bunch of cheatin' suicidal 'roid-heads going ape-wild setting the bar up in the stratosphere far out of reach of honest play-by-the-rules folks. Send Chambers, Toth their like to the NFL where they'll be welcome among their fellow chemical addicts. RT
Re: t-and-f: Chambers positive
In a telepress conference Wednesday morning, Craig Masback, USATF CEO, said there were four THG A sample positives from the U.S. Track Championships last June. He added that only three of these athletes advanced to the World Championships and none were medalists. Martin J. Dixon wrote: Dwain Chambers, the fastest man in Europe and one of Britain's main hopes for an Olympic gold medal next year, has tested positive for a new banned designer... http://sport.guardian.co.uk/athletics/story/0,10082,1068204,00.html
Re: t-and-f: Chambers positive
I believe that question came up, but I am not sure of the answer. The teleconference lasted about one hour and is on the USATF website: The digital audio replay of todays USATF teleconference on its new Zero Tolerance anti-doping plan is now posted at www.usatf.org The link is under the Featured Items section of the home page. You can access it by going to www.usatf.org or clicking on:Listen to the "Zero Tolerance" teleconference "Martin J. Dixon" wrote: Wasn't the original rumour 20. Maybe that included the modafinil positives? Mike Prizy wrote: > In a telepress conference Wednesday morning, Craig Masback, USATF CEO, said there were four THG A > sample positives from the U.S. Track Championships last June. He added that only three of these > athletes advanced to the World Championships and none were medalists. > > "Martin J. Dixon" wrote: > > > "Dwain Chambers, the fastest man in Europe and one of Britain's main > > hopes for an Olympic gold medal next year, has tested positive for a new > > banned designer..." > > > > http://sport.guardian.co.uk/athletics/story/0,10082,1068204,00.html -- Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Millard Financial Consulting Inc. P.O. Box 367 96 Nelson Street Brantford, Ontario N3T 5N3 Direct Dial: (519) 759-3708 Ext. 231 Telephone: (519) 759-3511 Private Facsimile: (519) 759-8548 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: www.millards.com Practice Areas: http://www.millards.com/profs/mjd.htm IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email may be confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender.
Re: t-and-f: Another THG mystery
This is a Buck Q, but not unusual for there to be different forms of a med. Under the tongue would be sublingual, but could be pill or tablet, chewable, liquid, injectable. Generally if something can be produced and taken in different forms, the potency varies because absorption rates will differ. Plus, there are cost and production factors, and maybe the injectable was a first generation and the sublingual is a later version, which would leave little evidence behind, i.e. syringes, maybe less metabolites in the system, etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This THG stuff is said to be placed under the tongue- apparently it's not a pill and it's certainly not injected. So what was it doing in the syringe that was turned in to USADA by the 'mystery coach'. Why would it be in a syringe? This story has as many red herring mysteries as that pair of women's underwear in the Kobe Bryant case. RT
Re: t-and-f: 'Designer' drug scandal looms
There was a segment on this on NBC's Today Show this Saturday morning. Ed Marsha Prytherch wrote: One positive from this is that USADA was able to maintain secrecy as they developed and used tests for the new drug. That alone justifies their existance. Ed Prytherch
Re: t-and-f: rutto
Wow! So, State of the sport... whatever that means ... gives you some right to blame an entity, which then gives you carte blanche to make accusations on any individual your opinion stirs you to, even though you do NOT have a shred of evidence to vilify that person. That reminds me of a book I read in h.s. or college. I think it was called, Salem Witch Trials. P.S. Is this what the list was like in the good old days? alan tobin wrote: If the state of this sport was different I wouldn't be so suspicious. Don't blame me, blame the sport. alan From: peter watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: peter watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: rutto Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc5-f16.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.23]) by mc5-s15.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:08:57 -0700 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([128.223.142.13]) by mc5-f16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:05:47 -0700 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FCnTJf019915for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9FCnSqv019906for t-and-f-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FCnRJf019750for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [152.163.252.196] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:27 PDT X-Message-Info: x4V9WGjv0S9twfp7C5v5wrqAONg8KFxDIrczlQydMTo= Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 13:05:49.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E013280:01C3931D] Alan think how you would feel had you just run the race of your life only to have people suspecting the worst. If you witnessed the training and dedication evans (and paul)went through you would have no questions. Try having 5 hard workouts a week an doing nothing in your life but running, sleeping and eating properly. If it were not for having massage 3 times a week and being completly commited to the marathon buildup they would not have made it. Even so Paul ended up with hamstring problems that did not allow him to race to his fullest potential. Evans life has just changed so much and he is the happiest guy in the world right now. Why to you have to assume drugs in every situation in this sport and belittle such an outstanding run. There were times in my life when people ran fast and i would think like you oh drugs but my eyes have been opened to the natural talent that is in this world. Evans has one of the most efficent and smooth strides i have ever seen he was made to run. One last comment on this long post. We were in the car coming home from training and talking about drug allegations and such when paul said something to the effect had i ever taken drugs i would not have run 26:30 i would have run 24 minutes __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
t-and-f: Q for stat geeks
At the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon yesterday, Jenny Spangler, 40, ran 2:32:38 (missed A standard by 38 seconds) to set U.S. masters best for the marathon (13th/3rd US/1st Masters/1st Illinois - she picked up a lot of bonus cash.) Question: Jenny Spangler currently holds the U.S. best at the junior and masters level for the marathon. Has anyone ever held a junior and a masters best/record at the same time? Junior mark: marathon 2:33:52a JENNY SPANGLER (IL/19) DULUTH, MN (061183) Old Masters' mark: marathon 2:35:08 LAURIE BINDER (CA/44) MINNEAPOLIS, MN (100691)
Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champZakharova win at Chicago
Which record? He missed Chicago's record (2:05:42) by eight seconds. But, Ruttu has the record for the fastest debut. Martin J. Dixon wrote: Alan was talking about the record that was just broken and it was 12 seconds off. Richard McCann wrote: Actually, he's 55 seconds off the WR. At 06:35 PM 10/13/2003 +, alan tobin wrote: When a runner I barely heard of runs his first ever marathon 8 seconds off a record that was just broke I start to wonder.
Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago
She's a tall, good looking blond. Gave up her job as an air traffic controller in Albuquerque so she could train more. I would stake Alan's life on it that she's not taking performance-enhancing drugs;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not barely heard of... U. S. girl debut in sub 2:30. Where is the rant?? In a message dated 10/13/2003 12:47:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When a runner I barely heard of runs his first ever marathon 8 seconds off a record that was just broke I start to wonder. 27:30 10k 2:05:50 marathon. Call me a pessimist if you want. Icing on the cake would be if he's a part of Dr. Rosa's camp. Anyone know? Alan
Re: t-and-f: soul
Hey, Heeey, HY, I got Martin's bookmark: http://www.funky-stuff.com/jamesbrown/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell, Martin has soul I've got too much soul -James Brown In a message dated 10/13/2003 2:57:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where do you suggest people go that are looking for that lost soul? I'm not being facetious. I'd like to know so I can bookmark it. Robert J Howell wrote: Regardless of what Randy says, Kim has it right. This list has no soul, no personality. It is only a shell of what it was. Robbie Howell
Re: t-and-f: The Study was a 1995 poll
But, I guess that proves something. If a guy will give his left and right ones for $2500, surely he'll dope up for $60,000. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Tobin wrote: That is pretty freaked up Malmo. I would give my left and right nut to get $2500 for the male equivalent 2:37 marathon. Thanks for sharing, Alan. Phil
Re: t-and-f: who would use drugs?
I think 85 percent of human parents surveyed said that some times, they would like to eat their young. Martin J. Dixon wrote: Gerald Woodward wrote: Ed, Thanks for the info. I would not think that that high a percentage of athletes would say yes, knowing that they would die in five years, just to win an Olympic gold medal... Well...this doesn't necessarily mean the study took place or that it was scientific if it did and it seems to me that I have heard various versions of this since well prior to 1995. A Scenario, from a 1995 poll of 198 sprinters, swimmers, powerlifters and other assorted athletes, most of them U.S. Olympians of aspiring Olympians: You Are offered a banned performance-enhancing substance, with two guarantees: 1) You will not be caught. 2) You will win. Would you take the substance? One hundred and ninety-five athletes said yes; three said no. Scenario II: You are offered a banned performance-enhancing substance that comes with two guarantees: 1) You will not be caught. 2) You will win every competition you enter for the next five years, and then you will die from the side effects of the substance. Would you take it? More than half the athletes said yes. http://www.horizon-hs.net/~pe/gary%20paulson/wt%20lifting%20II/overtheedge.html Gerald Woodward wrote: Ed, Thanks for the info. I would not think that that high a percentage of athletes would say yes, knowing that they would die in five years, just to win an Olympic gold medal! I would love to have one, but not at that cost! I enjoy life for the most part and have a lot of things that I still want to accomplish. The gold medal is not that important to me that I give up my life in five years, and I hate to lose even if I'm playing tiddlywinks!!! Gerald -- Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Millard Financial Consulting Inc. P.O. Box 367 96 Nelson Street Brantford, Ontario N3T 5N3 Direct Dial: (519) 759-3708 Ext. 231 Telephone: (519) 759-3511 Private Facsimile: (519) 759-8548 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: www.millards.com Practice Areas: http://www.millards.com/profs/mjd.htm IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email may be confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender.
Re: t-and-f: who would use drugs?
Chicago, Boston, or both? Jim Gerweck wrote: on 10/6/03 8:13 PM, Tom Derderian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must be the pitchers are using. Well, not the Sox relievers.
Re: t-and-f: Status of Felix 22.11 as WJR? Word Youth Records?
Do these fit the world best category and sidestep world record? Roger Ruth wrote: Earlier today, Karl Steinhoff made a very good point and raised an interesting question, writing: Also, I notice in this year's ATFS Annual that the records section contains a new category - World Youth (under 18) records. Are these officially recognized by the IAAF? If so, do they require the same testing regimen as other records? It would seem that athletes this age are more likely to compete in meets without a testing protocol, and so we would find more records disallowed. How appropriate is it to require drug testing as a condition of record ratification, when the nature of competition for the U18 group is such that many (probably most) meets in which they are involved will not provide that testing? Would the solution be to recognize that circumstance and *not* require testing for record ratification? Is there any database available that would show how frequently all under-18 athletes who were tested have been found to have used banned substances? For now, the best source I have available for approaching an answer to that question is the one-year data provided in Peter Matthews' 2003 edition of the ATFS Athletics Annual. There, he lists the athletes suspended by the IAAF for drug violations in 1992. The youngest (of 17) men in that list were 23 years old at the time of the suspension. The youngest woman (of 17) was 22 years old. The ages of athletes who have been suspended seem to center around 30 for the men and 25 for the women. Let me propose a theory about age/ranking and drug enhancement: It is that athletes do not resort to drugs during the years when they are improving their accomplishments, but only when they fail to meet their expectations (or that of their coaches/sponsors) or begin to decline in their performances. If that is correct, there may be no need for drug testing of younger athletes. Cheers, Roger
Re: t-and-f: Templeton on Lagat
He even said so: "... I also represented Dieter Baumann (since Munich 2002)." "B. Kunnath" wrote: >From: "alan tobin" :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>", I also represented Dieter Baumann" > >Well, that says it all. > >AlanActually it doesn't. Im pretty certain Templeton became Baumanns manager AFTER the whole drug fiasco.So whats your point?bob Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today!
Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative
Who says he's clean? The European Aristocrats at the IAAF who make the rules say he's clean. NOT U.S. courts. NOT Johnny C. or any other hotshot U.S. attorney. NOT world sports arbitration. No lame defense. No sex, cheap wine, rock N' roll, or toothpaste. Can't blame USATF. Just the IAAF rules in plain black and white say he's clean. Cut and dry. Move on. alan tobin wrote: Who said he was clean? One test said he was dirty, the other said clean. So which is it? Why don't we take a 3rd test? Best two out of three...like rock, paper, scissors... Alan >From: "B. Kunnath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative >Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:17:43 + >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [24.58.161.241] >X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: from 24.58.161.241 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Thu, >02 Oct 2003 00:17:43 GMT > _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:17:43 + From: "B. Kunnath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Alan on Sept 4th re Lagats positive A Sample: Am I the only one not shocked? Once we all realize that most of the top athletes in the sport are on something then we all will cease to be shocked. Track is like Cycling. In order to be a champion you have to be doped on something. Alan Today: >Why would we Mike? It's not like there is a lot of money at stake or>that other sports are filled with cheats. In my world the sky is >always clear and people help old ladies cross the street. > >Alan Alan, Are you just as shocked that hes turned out to be clean after all? Does this negative test make that drugtakers iceberg seem a little smaller now? Too many people want to believe the worst without even waiting for the full facts to come out. bob
Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative
This is why positive A samples should never be released - or leaked - to the public. Now the conspiracy folks are going to have a field day. Michael Contopoulos wrote: http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/general/features/2003/lagat_b_netative_20031001.html www.trackandfieldnews.com _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B sample... now equal chance of being clean or dirty...
How many other A samples have been positive that we don't know about because the B was negative, because the rules were followed by not releasing the results of the A positive before the B test? The rule says: A positive + B positive = Positive A Positive + B negative = Negative If we did not know the A results, we would not be discussing this now, nor would we have to take sides or form opinions. Lagat does not deserve to have this cloud of suspicion following him around. Michael Contopoulos wrote: For all those who will love to write this off as if Lagat is a saint and he never did anything wrong... isn't it just as likely the negative result is wrong as the positive result is wrong? In the eyes of our sport, he is free. In my eyes, he either tested positive for something and then got off on a bad B' test, or, he was unjustly accused after a bad 'A' test and was vindicated with the 'B' test. In no way, in my mind, is he clean based on the B sample. He's just not guilty. Unless someone has more to offer on things done differently with the B, I will actually believe the B sample falsely read a negative. I actually think it would be better for the sport had Lagat been busted. Of course if he truly is clean, I'm glad he's back, but I will hold my judgement. Life aint fair... and I never said it was. Michael _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa
Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative
Conspiracy theories??? For a sport most could careless about??? Collaboration between some or all 200 federations who can't get along with each other??? And, on Page 2 of the supermarket tabloid ... the IAAF and USATF are actually ruled by Ollan Cassell at his double-secret headquarters at Area 51, near the hanger where the alien spaceship is housed, next to Elvis' office. alan tobin wrote: Why would we Mike? It's not like there is a lot of money at stake or that other sports are filled with cheats. In my world the sky is always clear and people help old ladies cross the street. Alan From: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:59:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc9-f25.hotmail.com ([65.54.166.32]) by mc9-s13.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:13:06 -0700 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([128.223.142.13]) by mc9-f25.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:04:53 -0700 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91HuiIK011974for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h91HuiUO011968for t-and-f-outgoing; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91HugIK011530for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comcast.net (12-248-211-198.client.attbi.com[12.248.211.198]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id 20031001175637016005uf3je (Authid: mikeprizy); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:56:37 + X-Message-Info: QY4hSA9XRFMMSePXohvdfHfvte0BQUfJyVk9xOTiDwY= Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2003 18:04:55.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[84BB1FD0:01C38846] This is why positive A samples should never be released - or leaked - to the public. Now the conspiracy folks are going to have a field day. Michael Contopoulos wrote: http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/general/features/2003/lagat_b_netative_20031001.html www.trackandfieldnews.com _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com _
Re: t-and-f: Drugs
The answer might be here: http://www.usantidoping.org/files/USADAmgmtdiagram11_00.pdf For some reason, I can't open these PDF files. I called USADA to ask if both samples go to the same lab. I was told they do, but, I suspect that the athlete may have the option to have the B sample - while it is still sealed in a tamper-evident container along with chain-of-custody forms - sent to another certified/IAAF/IOC approved lab. It probably is standard procedure to have the B sent elsewhere if the A is positive. If the A is negative, the B is not tested. Even if the B sample is tested where the A positive sample was tested, it probably would not be on the same day and maybe not on the same machine or by the same technician. If notification goes out on an A positive and the athlete or federation is given options, there is plenty of time to spring a leak - IMHO. But, the question(s): What is the procedure after an A sample comes up positive; when and where does the B sample get tested? If names are NOT used on the COC forms, who has access to the identification numbers to be able to know who the A sample belongs to? I am more familiar with U.S. employment drug testing. These answers might be in the PDF files or maybe somebody on this list knows. Richard McCann wrote: If its the federations doing the leaking, then the labs should hold the A results until they get the B results. There's really no reason to release the A results beforehand. RMc At 09:18 PM 9/28/2003 -0500, Mike Prizy wrote: I think most of the A leaks have been announcements by the NGBs of the respective countries (I know, not the U.S.) Richard McCann wrote: At 11:15 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, Gerald Woodward wrote: Richard, You and I and just about everyone else on this list knows of instances where leaks of a positive A hit the streets long before the results of the B test were publicized! The labs that leaked this info should be banned from participating in the testing program for life! That will eliminate people from trying to get the scoop on every other lab that is running the same type of testing. Hopefully, it will also eliminate the rumors and innuendos. Gerald I agree this position. There need to be stronger sanctions on these labs. RMc
Re: t-and-f: Latest on White
How about - Let me sleep on it. Kurt Bray wrote: I'm trying to be vague with my answers. That's the most refreshingly (if unintentionally) honest answer I've heard in a long time! Kurt Bray _ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport
My reading skills have nothing to do with it. Maybe I need to brush up on mind reading or telepathy. malmo wrote: Perhaps Mike, you should brush up on your reading skills. I didn't say anything about Reynolds guilt. I said I wouldn't be so sure. As a matter of fact, here on this list in the past, I've noted the Reynolds passed tests both immediately before and after he got popped. Added to this, his demeaner (unlike Slaney's) was that of an innocent man. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:55 PM To: Conway Hill Cc: Richard McCann; Dan Kaplan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport I believe Butch's case was overturned on appeal in a U.S. court on a jurisdiction ruling, negating his $27 million award. Butch got screwed on poor chain-of-custody procedures (regardless of what King George thinks.) Somebody peed a positive. It just wasn't his. Conway Hill wrote: But it is ok to leave the door open for athletes to be wrongly occused and to lose medals and tears of competition to a poor testing system that has only an inherent moral basis And of course the opportunity for litigation thtat that provides ... Is that correct ?? For example Butch Reynolds and his trip down litigation lane ... Now there was a great example of looking out after our athletes !!! Didn'tb he win ?? Oh wat, he never got paid !! Yeah ... Let's base a system on the potntial nature of litigation !!! That works ... - Original Message - From: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport The problem with your proposal is that it does open up the use of drugs which MAY be harmful. Given the litigious nature of our society today, I can already see an athlete suing the IAAF for allowing the use of a harmful substance, which in effect required the athlete to use the substance to be competitive. You only need to look at the actions on electromagnetic radiation from cell phones and electric appliances to realize that this could be a very substantial liability. (And there are many more examples--just look at Superfund litigation.) This situation means that we need to err on the side of caution on this issue. Richard McCann
Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport
Yea, I'll turn the radar off and let your cosmic dust fly by. malmo wrote: Or perhaps you need to stop looking for something that's not there? -Original Message- From: Mike Prizy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:27 PM To: malmo Cc: 'Conway Hill'; 'Richard McCann'; 'Dan Kaplan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport My reading skills have nothing to do with it. Maybe I need to brush up on mind reading or telepathy. malmo wrote: Perhaps Mike, you should brush up on your reading skills. I didn't say anything about Reynolds guilt. I said I wouldn't be so sure. As a matter of fact, here on this list in the past, I've noted the Reynolds passed tests both immediately before and after he got popped. Added to this, his demeaner (unlike Slaney's) was that of an innocent man. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:55 PM To: Conway Hill Cc: Richard McCann; Dan Kaplan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport I believe Butch's case was overturned on appeal in a U.S. court on a jurisdiction ruling, negating his $27 million award. Butch got screwed on poor chain-of-custody procedures (regardless of what King George thinks.) Somebody peed a positive. It just wasn't his. Conway Hill wrote: But it is ok to leave the door open for athletes to be wrongly occused and to lose medals and tears of competition to a poor testing system that has only an inherent moral basis And of course the opportunity for litigation thtat that provides ... Is that correct ?? For example Butch Reynolds and his trip down litigation lane ... Now there was a great example of looking out after our athletes !!! Didn'tb he win ?? Oh wat, he never got paid !! Yeah ... Let's base a system on the potntial nature of litigation !!! That works ... - Original Message - From: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport The problem with your proposal is that it does open up the use of drugs which MAY be harmful. Given the litigious nature of our society today, I can already see an athlete suing the IAAF for allowing the use of a harmful substance, which in effect required the athlete to use the substance to be competitive. You only need to look at the actions on electromagnetic radiation from cell phones and electric appliances to realize that this could be a very substantial liability. (And there are many more examples--just look at Superfund litigation.) This situation means that we need to err on the side of caution on this issue. Richard McCann
Re: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport
Could be that those old East German labs have been leased to the old wives because there's plenty of science out there just on vit. C and zinc. http://www.vitacost.com/science/hn/Concern/Common_Cold.htm However, the key benefit of Vit. C for runners might be as a great antioxidant. When hammering a 20 miler, the body is producing mega ATP. The energy it takes to produce the ATP also produces a lot of waste in the form of free radicals. Antioxidant enzymes help convert free rads to harmles waste. IMHO, vitamin C provides a bigger boost than much of the stuff on the current banned list. malmo wrote: If you are taking vitamins in an attempt to stop an athlete from catching colds, I suspect that you are victim of many more old-wives tales. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew H FraserMoat Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 6:25 AM To: 'Randy Treadway'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport This is the best post I have read on this list for many years. I am in the same camp as you, Randy. The only slight difference is that I think it is OK to take daily doses of multi-vitamins to stop the athlete catching colds etc. Matthew Fraser Moat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Treadway Sent: 05 September 2003 22:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: major philosphy difference for the sport snipped Which camp are YOU in? Anybody who claims that they were caught for stuff like nandro because it was in a mismarked supplement that they were taking (specifically as a compliment to their athletic training)- well it's hard for me to have much sympathy for them, because I think they were violating the spirit of the sport to begin with. If you had any doubt which camp I'm in, it's now obvious.
t-and-f: Tough press: Chambers' final flop turns golden baton to silver
Chambers' final flop turns golden baton to silver http://sport.guardian.co.uk/athletics/story/0,10082,1033215,00.html
t-and-f: [Fwd: Khannouchi Withdraws From Chicago Marathon]
Original Message Subject: Khalid Khannouchi Withdraws From Chicago Marathon Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 15:02:44 -0500 From: LaSalle Bank Chicago marathon PRESS RELEASE KHALID KHANNOUCHI WITHDRAWS FROM CHICAGO MARATHON CHICAGO (September 3, 2003) ? Khalid Khannouchi, 31, who has dominated the streets of Chicago in the past five years has withdrawn from next month's 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. With four first-place feats, including a record setting performance, Khannouchi's dominance in Chicago will have to wait at least one more year. Khannouchi, the fastest marathon runner in history, contacted Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski to personally inform him of his decision. He made the call from Limerick, Ireland where he is currently receiving treatment from Gerard Hartmann, a world-renowned physical therapist. I was truly disappointed that Khalid would not be able to compete this year, said Pinkowski after hearing the unfortunate news. His presence will be missed. He has been a great ambassador for our event, the City of Chicago and marathoning. Khannouchi has a nagging injury that hasn't allowed him to train with the same intensity as in years past. This would have been Khannouchi's sixth LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. Khannouchi will be in town marathon weekend in an entirely unfamiliar role?watching the race as the most experienced spectator from the grandstands rather than from his most familiar position of crossing the finish line tape. I was looking forward to another competitive performance in Chicago, but a minor injury is forcing me to reduce the intensity of my training, stated Khannouchi. As a result I have to withdraw from the 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. This also comes at a unique time for Khannouchi and other athletes knowing the Olympic Trials are fast approaching in Birmingham, Ala. (February 2004) and the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens. Khannouchi's focus is now on the Trials and the Olympics. If I ran the Chicago Marathon I might risk my chances to participate in the Olympic Trials as well as loosing my hope to make the Olympic Team, added Khannouchi. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon will be there every year and I will have another chance to come back and give the performance Chicago deserves. With Khannouchi leaving the field of elite athletes, the 2003 Chicago race will still have another impressive men's field. Top male athletes include Abdelkhader El Mouaziz, Rod Dehaven, Mike Donnelly, Dan Browne and Jeff Schiebler. El Mouaziz, 34, and two-time London Marathon winner, will return to Chicago for a second time, and hopes to challenge the world record held by Khannouchi. Rod DeHaven, 36, a former Olympian from Madison, Wisc., who set his personal best marathon time in Chicago with a 2:11:40 performance in the 2001 race, sees the Marathon as a tune up for the upcoming Trials. Others already have secured the qualifying time and will compete in Chicago to stay competitive leading up to the trials, but like DeHaven, Donnelly, 26, and Schiebler, 30, have Olympic aspirations. Browne, 28, set his personal best in the Twin Cities Marathon with a time of 2:11:35, which coined him the 2002 USA marathon champion and gave him the Olympic A standard qualifying time to compete in the trials for the 2004 Olympics. Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever, $550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest first place payout in the sport. The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park and registration has recently been closed since reaching the cap of 40,000 participants. - 30 -
Re: t-and-f: The unknown positive?
Didn't Ben have a third positive? What was the problem there? Jonas Mureika wrote: This is very interesting, because this is exactly what happened with Ben Johnson's second positive test in 1993 (which in that case was a T:E ratio, which has even vaguer thresholds).
t-and-f: Advantage in 5000? Predicto M/200
Who has the advantage in the WC 5000 final? El G moving up from 1500 or Kenny B moving down from 10,000? What will the last mile and the last 200 be run in?
Re: t-and-f: (The real) TV mystery
The Big TV Mystery as I see it (((NOT))) was why even ESPN2's on-screen cable listing here in Chicago states track and field 9-11 p.m., but instead there is baseball on. The WCs were on 7-9 p.m. I sat down at 8:58 p.m. to see a near empty stadium and hear the closing comments. Baseball NOT berry, berry good to me. Ed Grant wrote: Netters: Having been lavish (quite deserved) criticism of Tursday;s TV offering from Paris, I have to be just as lacish in praise of today;s progtam. My only question is, why such a complete reversal? Today's show opened with full coverage of the two events which were missed the day before because (I guess) a time overrun. Not only were they shown in full, but they were introduced properly as something that had happened the day before, unlike the pitiful Tuesday masquerade that would have had us believe the 100M finals came after the women's 200M trials, not a day or two days later, I can only conclude that different hands were at the controls of the two shows (or that the first-day gaffs were so obvious that something had to be done about it). The Tuesday coverage was typical network-style bilge, treating fans as if they were a bunch of ignorant boobs. Today's show was what we have come to expected from the ESPN international coverage, as good an attempt as U.S. coverage can make to match the kind of TV coverage European fans take for granted---given the limitations of time allotment.I would expect we we will see the same kind of coverage the next two days, It is the weekend that worries me. Because of the wall-to-wall college football coverage on both ESPN channels Saturday, the Parish coverage will begin at midnight here on the East Coast (and maybe elsewhere as well, for all I know.) Then we get the network coverage the next day, which, if past performances give any indication, will simply ignore the fact that ESPN has been covering the meet for five days and waste a lot of the three and a half hours showing events we have already seen. Another indication of a possible difference in the production these past two days was the cutdown today in the number and length of commercials. Fortunately, where was even time left after the closing decathlon 1500M to show a few events which had been earlier neglected: the second semi of the women's 200M, the women's TJ.. Ed Grant
t-and-f: Today's WC results
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?sectionId=23
Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000
Speaking of 1964 and wild 10,000s, the other night on digital cable I stumbled on the movie, Running Brave. And, the tape I used for the Zurich meet Saturday happened to have the 1992 (?) MobilOne Indoor meet on it. It was in Fairfax, Va., the first year with the Martin surface. Noureddine Morceli won the mile. Eamonn Coghlan ran 4:07 in a master's mile (was he 40 yet in early 1992???) with Ken Popejoy second. Two of the announcers were? Frank Shorter and Craig Masback. As a bonus, the last hour of the tape had the 1996 Ill. H.S. state XC meet with Jorge Torres winning as a sophomore, the first of his three state XC titles. There was a pretty good freshman in 24th place named Don Sage. Signed, Track-on-TV starved American Lee Nichols wrote: But if you look at the major championships, going back at least to the 1964 Olympics, the 10K is consistently one of the wildest races. Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
t-and-f: Chicago registration at 39,200
Original Message Subject: News Flash: Last Chance to Register! Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 06:27:52 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon www.chicagomarathon.com October 12, 2003 NEWS FLASH LAST CHANCE TO REGISTER BEFORE CAP IS REACHED 39,200 REGISTERED TO DATE - REGISTRATION WILL CLOSE AT 40,000 Registration for The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has reached 39,200 to date and is expected to reach the cap of 40,000 shortly. Once the cap is reached, registration will be closed and individuals who have not registered will be unable participate in this years Marathon. Online registration is available at http://www.chicagomarathon.com. _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Re: t-and-f: Kenyan Drug Scandel
But, isn't Malmo the name of a tabloid that has an underlying motivation of selling magazines and making a lot of money? Wayne T. Armbrust wrote: B. Kunnath wrote: From: Dan Kaplan If you can enlighten me as to how that is no different from the TF drug accusation situation, then I will be quite impressed. snip Likewise in the drug postings. Every time Ive asked someone to come forward and actually put names, dates and locations, theres some major backpedalling. I have yet to see a single person come on here or any other running page and claim point blank that he/she has witnessed or specifically knows of someone doing the dope. Malmo has. He named the Eugene physician that was providing steroids for AW and even admitted to using Winsterol (sp?) himself. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarxª 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
t-and-f: [Fwd: Chicago Marathon Registration Reaches 35,000]
Original Message Subject: Chicago Marathon Registration Reaches 35,000 -- Last Chance to Registerbefore 40,000 CAP is Reached Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:14:12 -0500 Press Release (From the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon) Last Chance to Register Before Cap is Reached 35,000 Registered to Date ? Registration will Close at 40,000 Chicago (August 11, 2003)?Registration for the 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has reached 35,000 to date and is expected to reach the cap of 40,000 shortly. Once the cap is reached, registration will be closed and there will not be an opportunity to participate in this year's marathon. If you want to run this year's LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, you'll need to register immediately, advised Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski. It's certainly common to have thoughts of running without actually registering, so if you've been training and have made that kind commitment, you need to register today so you can compete in this year's race. The 26.2-mile race takes place on Sunday, October 12. The cap was increased this year to 40,000 from 37,500. The marathon is open to all runners who can complete the course in less than six hours. Registration is $80 ($90 for international participants) and can be completed online at www.chicagomarathon.com. For additional information, call 1-888-243-3344 (U.S. and Canada) or (312) 904-9800. Participation in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has increased dramatically since 1996 when only 10,925 registered. The 2003 marathon has the potential to be largest marathon ever to take place. Pinkowski attests the record participation to the growing popularity of running and the fact that the Chicago race has become engrained into the fabric of Chicago and its sports scene. The marathon has become an integral part of the fabric of the City of Chicago and we see this more and more each year, added Event Chairman and Chief Marketing Officer for LaSalle Bank, Mark A. Nystuen. Not only do 40,000 people run the race, but nearly 1 million spectators line the course, 150,000 people attend the Health Fitness Expo, and the event is broadcast around the world?this has become an International event that Chicagoans have truly embraced. New to this year's race are competitive and preferred start positions for those who meet certain qualifying times based on completion of a marathon or half-marathon since Jan. 1, 2001. The competitive and preferred start positions are staged closer in proximity to the start line and are offered based on registration date and valid proof received. Qualifying times for the remaining 350 competitive start positions are 3:15:00 or less in a full marathon and 1:30:00 or less in a half-marathon. For the remaining 1,500 preferred start positions, the qualifying times are 3:45:00 in a marathon and 1:45:00 in a half-marathon. Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever, $550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest first place payout in the sport. The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of 40,000 participants. CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. race day. # # #
t-and-f: Chicago Registration at 25,000
Original Message Subject: Registration at 25,000 -- 40,000 Cap expected to close by end of August Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:04:53 -0500 From: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon NEWS RELEASE Registered Participants Reach 25,000 at a Record Pace The 40,000 cap expected to be reached by end of August ? Register Now! Chicago (July 17, 2003)?Registration for 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon is approaching the 40,000 cap at a rapid pace. To date, more than 25,000 runners have signed up to run the 26.2-mile race that takes place on Sunday, October 12. The cap was increased this year to 40,000 from 37,500. Registration will close on Sept. 5 or when the registration cap is reached, which is expected by the end of August. We are reaching our registration cap at a record pace this year and I fully expect that we will reach the 40,000 cap as anticipated, stated Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski. If you plan on participating this year, you have to make your decision relatively soon and register. Participation in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has increased dramatically since 1996 when only 10,925 registered. The 2003 marathon has the potential to be largest marathon ever to take place. Pinkowski attests the record participation to the growing popularity of running and the fact that the Chicago race has become engrained into the fabric of Chicago and its sports scene. Running and marathoning have truly been recognized as part of the Chicago sports profile. With a focus on healthy lifestyles and with the extremely talented elite athletes who have produced epic performances in the Chicago Marathon, the sport has become tremendously popular. New to this year's race are competitive and preferred start positions for those who meet certain qualifying times based on completion of a marathon or half-marathon since Jan. 1, 2001. Qualifying times for the 2,500 competitive start positions are 3:15:00 or less in a full marathon and 1:30:00 or less in a half-marathon. For the 5,500 preferred start positions, the qualifying times are 3:45:00 in a marathon and 1:45:00 in a half-marathon. The competitive and preferred start positions are staged closer in proximity to the start line and are offered based on registration date and valid proof received. Less than 1,000 positions remain for the competitive start and 2,500 for the preferred start. The marathon is open to all runners who can complete the course in less than six hours. For information, call 1-888-243-3344 (U.S. and Canada) or (312) 904-9800. Registration is $80 ($90 for international participants) and can be completed online at www.chicagomarathon.com. Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever, $550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest first place payout in the sport. The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of 40,000 participants. CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. race day. # # #
t-and-f: [Fwd: TItle IX fyi]
... OCR hereby clarifies that nothing in Title IX requires the cutting or reduction of teams in order to demonstrate compliance with Title IX ... Original Message Subject: TItle IX fyi Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:10:15 -0500 From: Brenda To: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ed.gov/offices/OCR/title9guidanceFinal.html
Re: t-and-f: Salaries and Sports being cut
(((two items here))) Football coaches cost too much to fire By Ryan Gabrielson Arizona Daily Wildcat Going into the 2001 season, 15 colleges hired new football coaches, including Arizona, which brought on Mackovic, and ASU, which hired Dirk Koetter. The salaries given Mackovic and Koetter made them the state's two highest-paid employees. http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/uwire/112102aae.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debt service and capital expenses are not included in these totals. I'm not an accountant - but there are at least a couple good ones on this list - but I think where the expenses get real fuzzy are in the capital expenses area. I don't see any university football team that could afford to build and pay the overhead and upkeep on a stadium - not without cost shifting to the rest of the university, plus the added benefit of the school's huge tax exemption. And, football insurance premiums alone could probably go far in funding the Olympic-type sports at a university (I could not open the pdf file to see if insurance was listed as a line item.) Eliminate the players' salaries from any NFL team and my guess is it cost more than $10 million to run a high-profile football program. I think the true expense to run a major college football program far exceeds the revenue these college football program takes credit for. You're right that Title IX is not the only reason why sports programs are being cut, and universities are making poor decisions about how to allocate resources to the so-called revenue sports, most of which actually lose money. Anyone have a good study on this? I know that many college football programs are money losers - but I doubt that the elite programs that are paying coaches seven-figure salaries are. From the University of Texas, 2001 http://www.utexas.edu/vp/irla/eada2001.pdf : Revenues Expenses Sport Dollars Percent of Dollars Percent of Grand Total Grand Total (1) Football$25,605,289 47.6% $10,291,08721.7% (2) Men's Basketball $4,461,5418.3% $3,200,723 6.8% (3) Other Men's $1,103,8822.1% $4,050,042 8.6% Revenue includes ticket sales; student activity fees; guarantees and options; contributions from alumni and others; state or government support; institutional support; post-season compensation; concessions; radio and television; special events; program sales and advertising; signage, sponsorships, and royalties; sports camps; and all other revenues intended for intercollegiate sports. Expenses include appearance guarantees and options, athletically-related student aid, contract services, equipment, fund-raising activities, operating expenses, promotional activities, recruiting expenses, salaries and benefits, supplies, travel, and any other expenses attributable to intercollegiate activities. Debt service and capital expenses are not included in these totals. That makes football a nice $15 million a year cash steer that fuels the rest of the athletic department. Elite NCAA football and basketball programs are in the entertainment business - and if you have a coach who helps up the value of your entertainment package, you pay him what it takes to keep him.
Re: t-and-f: Swoosh! Nike Agrees to Buy Converse for $305 Million
In today's Chicago Tribune vie the Baltimore Sun, is a column about Kobe Bryant. In part, the Baltimore Sun's Mike Preston says the reason kids aren't buying Kobe's shoes is because Converse is now the hip brand to today's kids. Marketing misfits miss point BY MIKE PRESTON. Mike Preston is a sports columnist for the Baltimore Sun, a Tribune newspaper Published July 10, 2003 (long link - might have to be pasted together) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/chi-0307100260jul10,1,2378830.story?coll=chi-printsports-hed Matthew Starr wrote: Search NYTimes.com Thursday, July 10, 2003 Swoosh! Nike Agrees to Buy Converse for $305 Million Nike, known for its shoes and its swoosh, has Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods on its corporate team. Now it is lining up yet another sports legend: for $305 million, Nike is buying Converse, a century-old footwear company and maker of the celebrated Chuck Taylor All Star shoe. The deal announced yesterday, for cash and debt, brings together one of the oldest names in athletic footwear with perhaps the world's best-known sports shoe brand. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: Salaries and Sports being cut
In your scenario - which is a valid one regarding the outrageous salaries for college football and men's basketball coaches - when the decision comes down to cutting either men's track or women's track, which team in almost all cases ends up on the chopping board? The men's team because of Gender Equity quotas. Title IX is a good thing. Football and men's basketball are bad things, and Gender Equity has given universities and the NCAA a cowardly method of turning their backs on one issue to pretend they are doing something righteous. P.S. I think this is rehash from last year? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The premise is that non-revenue sports are cut because of increases in revenue sports spending. Case in point-- St. John's University. According to Guidestar - Mike Jarvis was paid 705,000 in 1998 and 1,171,255 in 2001.I was rather shocked. That is a significant budget increase in an athletic department. Something would have to be cut in order to continue at that pace and they made the decision to cut Men's Track. It goes to prove the point that it is not fair just to point the finger at Title IX for a reduction in men's sports. Catherine Sellers
t-and-f: Pix from USATF Nationals
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t-and-f: [Fwd: Press Release: El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi]
Original Message Subject: Press Release: Abdelkhader El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:42:55 -0500 From: (LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon) Press Release Abdelkhader El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi Win gives El Mouaziz the grand slam?victories in Chicago, London, and New York Chicago (July 8, 2003)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon's elite athlete field grows deeper as two-time London Marathon winner Abdelkhader El Mouaziz (AB-DEL-CATER / EL-MO-ZEEZ) commits to run the 2003 race. El Mouaziz, returning to Chicago for a second time, hopes to challenge world-record holder Khalid Khannouchi for first place in the fall race. El Mouaziz set a personal best in Chicago in 2002 with a time of 2:06:46. A win in Chicago would make El Mouaziz, 34, of Morocco one of a select few to have first place finishes in the top marathons including Chicago, London, and New York. He is determined to achieve what he calls the grand slam of marathoning. I'm excited to return to Chicago and my goal is to win the race because this is the only top-marathon that I have yet to win, stated Mouaziz. After winning London twice and New York once, I need to win Chicago in order to complete the grand slam of victories in marathoning. I hope that 2003 will be the year that I can add Chicago to my list of marathon wins. El Mouaziz is a two-time Olympian from Morocco and one of the most consistent marathon performers over the past seven years. In 2002, he ran his then personal best of 2:06:52 with a fourth place finish in London while staying with Khalid Khannouchi, Paul Tergat and Haile Gebresalassie throughout the race. El Mouaziz won the London Marathon twice (1999, 2001) and also has two second-place finishes in London (2000 and 1998). At the 2002 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, El Mouaziz set a personal record of 2:06:46 for fifth place, the fastest time ever for anyone finishing in that position. In 2000, he won the New York City Marathon after a gutsy surge in the first half of New York's difficult course. He has performed well in international competition as well, finishing sixth at the 2001 World Marathon Championships (2:14:41) and seventh at the 2000 Sydney Olympics Marathon (2:13:49). He is also a three-time winner of the Marrakesh Marathon (1996,1997 and 1999). El Mouaziz is determined to perform strong in Chicago this year, stated Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski. He is a great addition to our field and with his eye on winning this year, he certainly adds a significant degree of competition to the men's field and to Khannouchi. It will certainly be a competitive race all the way to the finish line. World record holder Khannouchi announced that he would run Chicago for a sixth time earlier this year. With Khannouchi, former Olympian Rod DeHaven, who will both compete in the U.S. Olympic trials in February, and El Mouaziz leading the men's field, the LaSalle Bank Chicago will once again have the best athletes in the sport competing against each other. Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever, $550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest first place payout in the sport. The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of 40,000 participants. CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. race day. # # #
Re: t-and-f: Re: Oregon track website
Aside from the Heisman Trophy and the potential that some of its winners may or may not be felons, does anyone know why Rudy Chapa - not a Heisman winner, and to the best of my knowledge, not a felon, but rather a fine upstanding citizen - is apparently wearing his singlet reversed in this pix? (See link below for photo.) Richard McCann wrote: This is a pretty neat website with various pix of historic Oregon runners: http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tandf.html Richard McCann At 10:04 AM 6/19/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. - - Original Message - From: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: t-and-f: Chapa protesting??? What's the deal with this pix? Was Rudy protesting something? http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tf05.html
t-and-f: Top Ill. Qualifiers;
Illinois High School Association 110th running of the Boys' State Track and Field Championships. Charleston, Ill. Eastern Ill. University Class AA LJ 1 Q-Leslie Majors (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) 24' 1 3/4 2 Q-Durrell Williams (Jr.), Aurora (West)23' 7 TJ 1 Q-Steve Daniel (Sr.), Decatur (MacArthur) 49' 4 2 Q-Britt Taylor (Sr.), Darien (Hinsdale South) 48' 6 1/4 3 Q-Stephen Harden (Jr.), East St. Louis (Sr.) 47' 10 400m (juniors dominating) 1 Q-Justin Harrison (Jr.), Wheaton (W. Warrenville South):47.99 1 Q-Matt Leffler (Sr.), Vernon Hills :48.48 2 Q-Lee McGinnis (Jr.), Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South) :48.62 1 Q-Jeremy Johnson (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :48.84 1 Q-Kyle Rose (Jr.), Kankakee (Sr.) :48.91 2 Q-Stephen Taylor (Sr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :48.97 300H 1 Q-Matt Harden (Jr.), O'Fallon :38.61 2 Q-Keith Hopkins (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :39.57 1600 (12 to final from three heats, 4:09, 4:17 to 4:20) 1 Q-Stephen Pifer (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.) 4:09.08 1 Q-Jeremy Williams (Sr.), Lockport (Twp.) 4:17.02 200 1 Q-Jeremy Johnson (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :22.32 1 Q-Stephen Taylor (Sr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :22.22 1 Q-Devon Brooks (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.) :22.02 2 Q-Tyreese Andrews (Sr.), Chicago Heights (Bloom Twp.) :22.07 1 Q-Martece Winston (Sr.), Crete (C.-Monee) :22.06 2 Q-Waylond Ryan (Jr.), Rock Island (H.S.) :22.17 4x800 1 Q-Charleston7:44.23 Clint Coffey (Jr.), Nathan Homann (Jr.), Erik Werden (Sr.), Derek Fasnacht (Sr.) 4x100 1 Q-South Holland (Thornwood) :42.09 Leslie Majors (Jr.), Stephen Taylor (Sr.), Floyd Davis (Jr.), Jeremy Johnson (Jr.)
Re: t-and-f: Chepchumba banned after positive test
Is your next writing assignment for TFN going to be an update to Train Hard, Win Easy? malmo wrote: Actually, there are few sub 26:45s and few sub 12:50s ever. Last year, as you'll remember, produced the greatest mass finish ever in a 10k. Many smiling pastoral people who are afraid of needles in that race too. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Chepchumba banned after positive test Paul relayed: NAIROBI (Reuters) -- Kenya's former national cross-country champion Pamela Chepchumba was suspended from international competition by Athletics Kenya on Wednesday after a positive test for the banned blood-boosting drug EPO. Well, we all know this must be false, having been educated in the past that (a) Kenyans can't afford expensive performance enhancers like EPO, and (b) Kenyan athletes are loathe to take aspirin for a minor strain, much less take a performance enhancing drug. No story here folks. This drug test was obviously ignorant of Kenyan culture and tradition. What happened to all the sub 26:45 10K's and sub 12:50 5K's in recent years, btw? Phil
