Re: t-and-f: Re: Irish Team for Edmonton

2001-07-24 Thread Eamonn Condon

I think that should read 4 x 400 metres relay. Caulfield and Nolan will
probably be non-running reserves on the team. I do not know their PB's for
100m or 400m.

Eamonn Condon
www.RunnersGoal.com


- Original Message -
From: Ralf Linnemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: t-and-f: Re: Irish Team for Edmonton


Mike Casey wrote:

 Daniel Caulfield 800 metres
 James Nolan 1,500 metres
[...]
 Daniel Caulfield 4 x 100 metres replay
 James Nolan 4 x 100 metres replay

 Now, that's amazing. Does somebody
 know their PBs for the 100 metres?

 Ralf






t-and-f: Irish team replay

2001-07-24 Thread Ed Gordon

I think that Coman, Nolan and Caulfield will most certainly be running the
long relay.  And since that would only leave three on the list for the
short relay, I'm assuming all are on the 4x400, and not the 4x100 listed.



t-and-f: Fast Track success at Palace/ Ma to coach at Edmonton

2001-07-24 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Tuesday 24 July 2001
Tom Knight




SUCH was the success of Sunday night's British Grand Prix at Crystal Palace,
it was no surprise yesterday to find Fast Track, the promoters, still cooing
about a job well done.

So they should have been. This was a meeting which truly lived up to all the
hype and expectation, unlike so many others on the circuit.

The Crystal Palace extravaganza cost a whopping £1 million to stage and
boasted most of the biggest names in athletics. But the reason the meeting
sparkled so brightly in the cool night air of a south London summer was
because the star athletes performed well and, with the selection deadline
for the World Championships looming, every event mattered. The 17,000
capacity crowd were on their feet from the moment the athletes entered the
home straight in the first track race of the night.

In world terms, the 800 metres would have ranked no higher than a B-race,
but the key element was that it contained three Britons desperately trying
to run quicker than 1min 46sec in order to be included in Britain's team for
the championships, which start on Friday week.

For Simon Lees, James McIlroy and Neil Speaight, the attempt failed. In the
women's 5,000m, however, as Paula Radcliffe romped to victory, the normally
unheralded Hayley Yelling found herself the focus of the crowd's enthusiasm
as she improved her personal best by more than three seconds to finish 10th
with the time needed for the trip to Canada.

The pity for Fast Track and UK Athletics is that the International Amateur
Athletic Federation rank their meetings with a points system based on the
number of Grand Prix-qualified athletes on the start line.

It may well be, therefore, that at the end of the season a Golden League
meeting like Monte Carlo might be deemed to have been of higher quality than
London but, despite the discrepancy, the athletes are fast discovering where
they prefer to perform.

Zurich have their Weltklasse - World Class - meeting which has long revelled
in its reputation of staging `the Olympics in one night' but they now have a
serious challenger in London. Alan Pascoe, the seemingly tireless chairman
of Fast Track, said: Athletes thrive on the response of a big crowd and
when they come to London, they know they have to deliver.

When we took over promoting the British meetings, not everyone thought we
were going down the right path, but we've persevered. We know that as well
as having athletes perform well, we need to put on a good show for the fans.
They need to be entertained.

If people left thinking that was a sporting event they needed to be at,
then we've done our job. Maybe it's time to talk about Zurich and London in
the same breath.

Fast Track's next gig should present them with more problems. The company
are handling the bilingual MC duties in Edmonton, where the crowd may not
take kindly to being told which particular world-class athletes they should
be watching.




PASCOE'S achievements were not just confined to the arena. In order to
overcome Crystal Palace's notorious transport problems, Fast Track managed
to get RailTrack to change their weekend engineering schedule and persuade
Connex South Central to lay on extra trains on the night when their contract
was due to expire. No mean feat.

AN EVENING of such unprecedented success could not have been more timely,
coming as it did in the middle of Fast Track's negotiations with Norwich
Union over the renewal of their four-year, £10 million contract with
athletics.

Athletics' gain could be cricket's loss. Norwich Union are reviewing their
entire sponsorship programme, which includes their investment in cricket's
45-over one-day league. Like the contract they have with athletics, the
cricket deal has only a year to run.

With the company understood to be considering consolidating their
sponsorship with a single sport, the fact that the Crystal Palace meeting
coincided with England's abject failure against Australia at Lord's could
mean another massive boost for athletics.




IN CHINA, meanwhile, venue of the 2008 Olympic Games, it has emerged that
the last has not been seen of the controversial coach, Ma Junren.

State media reports claim Ma, whose runners were axed from China's Sydney
Olympics team because of doping concerns, will be in Edmonton as the deputy
head coach.

Ma's unorthodox training regime has provoked criticism and led to rifts with
sports officials and athletes. He shocked the track world at the Stuttgart
World Championships in 1993, when his team of unknown peasant women from the
north-eastern province of Liaoning - the so-called Ma's Army - won five of
six medals at 5,000m and 10,000m. A month later they shattered three world
records at the Chinese national championships.

Ma vigorously denied allegations that his runners 

t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

2001-07-24 Thread Winfried Kramer

The full results of the international meetings at Cottbus and 
Cuxhaven plus those of the decathlon match between Germany 
and USA can be found at www.steeple.de

Jockgrim, 20 Jul
Town Square wPV: Humbert 4.43

Schapach, 21 Jul
SP: R.Sack 19.67

Wipperfürth, 21 Jul
wTJ: Herschmann 13.92, Umlauft 13.91

Malle, ITA, 14 July
110mh (+0.1): Fenner 13.37, Knight USA 13.47
LJ: Marcininszyn POL 8.28
w400m: Ekpo-Umoh 51.66, B.Rockmeier 52.07


Winfried Kramer
Kohlrodweg 12
66539  Neunkirchen/Germany

Association of Track  Field Statisticians
Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS
www.saar.de/~kramer



t-and-f: Germany and doping

2001-07-24 Thread Winfried Kramer

German high jumper Amewu Mensah tested positive for 
Oxandrolon in Rehlingen, 4 June.


Winfried Kramer
Kohlrodweg 12
66539  Neunkirchen/Germany

Association of Track  Field Statisticians
Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS
www.saar.de/~kramer



t-and-f: stanford results

2001-07-24 Thread John N. Friedman

The results from Stanford thie evening are now at

http://gostanford.fansonly.com/sports/c-track/spec-rel/072301aac.html

Does anyone know how this race progressed?  Why was Lane the only finisher,
and so slow?




Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread Randall Northam

on 24/7/01 4:56 AM, David Andersen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who needs who? 
If the athletes who earn money and competed in a new competition that paid
more than the Olympics or worlds arrived fully fledged as stars you would
have a point.
But who is going to nuture the athlete when he or she starts out? I'm
talking pre-college age for those of you who live in the world's greatest
polluter! Who runs the little leagues, the kids' competitions?
The IAAF and Federations do many things other than run the top competitions
for the top athletes. And if they don't make money from those top
competitions they can't pay to develop the sport, so the whole thing would
collapse and a 
successful professional
track and field league that pays better than they can make now
would rapidly go out of business once the present stars had retired.
Randall Northam




t-and-f: Change of colours

2001-07-24 Thread Winfried Kramer

Yvonne Harrison and Ricardo Etheridge represented Puerto Rico 
for the first time at the CAC championships in Guatemala. Harrison 
won the 400mh in 55.86s, whereas Etheridge was 4th over 800m 
in 1:48.35.



Winfried Kramer
Kohlrodweg 12
66539  Neunkirchen/Germany

Association of Track  Field Statisticians
Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS
www.saar.de/~kramer



t-and-f: Swedish Relay

2001-07-24 Thread Mats Åkerlind

A while back we had a discussion on the net over the rules of the
Swedish Relay. I couldn't reply, since I was on vacation. Neither could
Mr. A Lennart Julin of the ATFS. He is (as many of you know) a lading
international statistics and rules expert. He foloows the list, but
cannot enter the discussion himself. He has asked me to post the
following message concerning the Swedish Relay:


SWEDISH RELAY - THE FACTS

Recently there has on the mailing list been a slightly confused
discussion concerning the Swedish relay
that Michael Johnson was going to participate in at a couple of stops on
his international farewell tour.

It was somewhat bemusing to see so many Americans being so consternated
by this concept. Because while
the strange medley relays have become almost completely extint in
other countries the US - alone - is still
promoting such events even for senior elite athletes, at least on the
collegiate scene.

Furthermore there is no apparent hesitancy in claiming world record
status for performances - indoors or
outdoors - in the sprint and distance medley events that don’t exist (or
even have been heard about)
anywhere outside of the US borders.

Now for the facts about the Swedish relay:

Origin

It was invented around 1910 in Sweden.

Name

It has more or less from the start been known in Sweden as Svensk
stafett, which is the exact equivalent of
the English expression Swedish relay. (So the assumed parallel to
expressions like French fries is not
correct.)

History

It immediately became popular in our country, especially in matches
(club as well as international) and
youth competitions.

It never received official championship status for seniors but official
national records were registered from
1910 until 1980 when it was decided to restrict official Swedish
records to events where there were world
records. The final Swedish record was an 1:53.6 run in 1973 by the KA 2
IF club.

However, Svensk stafett is still today an official national
championship event for girls age 17/18 and it is
run quite a lot in other youth competitions as well as in local club
matches for seniors.

In the old days the Swedish relay also was a popular event for
finishing off international meets by
showing off the exotic foreigners one more time.

Here it should be pointed out that the international scene actually was
VERY different from the current one
until quite recently. The Grand Prix circuit started as late as in 1985
and way into 1970’s there was nothing
even remotely resembling a circuit. E.g. when Jim Ryun was in his
prime in 1967 his European
competitions were a couple of international matches.

However, there was a tradition (at least since the 1920’s) that small
groups of US athletes were selected by
the AAU and sent to Europe - mostly Scandinavia - to compete for a month
or so on mostly small local tracks
spread around the countryside.

Such a US group normally was some kind of All Star Team composed of
perhaps a high jumper, a shot
putter, a hurdler, an 800m-runner and a couple of sprinters - most of
them world leaders in their respective
events.

Despite being so diverse it was still possible to from such a group
create a decent team for a medley relay like
the Swedish relay where they could face perhaps a couple of local
teams and a pick-up team of other
foreigners. This was something the fans loved.

Outside of Sweden the event caught on somewhat in the rest of
Scandinavia (especially Norway and
Denmark) as well as in Germany where it was called Schwedenstaffel
(also a direct translation).

That the concept still has some spark in it was very recently proven by
the fact that the IAAF decided to have
the Swedish relay as the only relay on the programme of the World
Youth Championships.

Records

Of course it has never been an official world record event, but that
doesn’t mean that not some very good
times have been run. The best time (pre-DN Galan 2001) a quick search
could reveal was a 1:50.0 run in
Basel (Switzerland) on 20 August 1949 by a US team consisting of Jim
Fuchs, Craig Dixon, Andy Stanfield
and Mal Whitfield.

That was an all-star team if there ever was one:
Jim Fuchs - shot put world record one month earlier

Craig Dixon - world leader in the 110m Hurdles

Andy Stanfield - world leader in the 200m (and World record holder and
Olympic champion to be)

Mal Whitfield - world leader in the 400m and 800m (and twice Olympic
800m champion)

The quality of the performance could also be understood if you realise
that 11+21+33+45 equals 1:50! And
we are talking about something that happened over half a century ago in
a world still recuperating from
WWII!

Rules

This is how the Swedish relay always (?) has been run in Sweden:

First: Run in lanes.

Second: Athlete allowed 10m acceleration, run in lanes.

   Third: Exchange still in lanes, no
acceleration, after having passed both the
   end of the exchange zone and the break line
(which is the normal 

Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread Bruce Lehane

Man does not exist as a lone figure.  The guiding concept  that a man can take
without giving, that he/she owes nothing to those who came before, are now, or
will come after, leads neither man, nor sport, nor nation to well being, much
less to happiness.

Ngeny is freely pursuing what he judges his first priority - collecting as much
money this summer as traffic will allow.  Competing at the world championships
is of secondary importance to him, apparently.  How light the hand of tyranny
has become.


David Andersen wrote:

 By the grace of reality and the and the nature of life, man - every man -
 is an end in himself, he exists for his own sake, and the achievement of his
 own happiness is his highest moral purpose.

 - John Galt from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged

 Who needs who?  Do the athletes need the federations or do the federations
 need the athletes?  Who does the Kenyan Federation serve by punishing Ngeny?
 They serve their own sense of power. And they ultimately serve up their end
 because the day is coming when the athletes, the people who give the
 federations a reason to exist, say enough is enough and walk away.


 What does everyone else think?






t-and-f: U.S. 800 A Qualifier Attempts at Cuxhaven

2001-07-24 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL

Cuxhaven, Saturday, July 21:

Men's 800:

Floyd Thompson - NO
2nd/1:48.65 (needed 1:46.00)

Women's 800:

Jen Toomey - NO
1st/2:00.38 (needed 2:00.00)
Nicole Teter - NO
3rd/2:01.32 (ditto)


Chris Kuykendall
Austin, Texas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread David Andersen

Development programs are a legitimate activity of an association, but hardly
essential. Many athletes find their way to success without the benefit of an
association.  Individuals, acting in their own best interest (for love of
the sport, for money, for whatever turns them on) are self-motivated to
coach, create meets, practice medicine, perform research, and compete. Since
when was the presence of a world or national bureaucracy necessary to
motivate individuals - coaches, athletes - to be their best?  It is a
fallacy to assume that if not for the IAAF we would not have a sport.  Do
you not love this sport?  Are you not self-motivated to participate in it?

Wouldn't an organization that runs a professional track and field league
have a vested interest in promoting the sport at all levels, much like the
PGA, etc.?  Of course.  But their promotion and development efforts would
not be necessary to insure new athletes.  Motivated people will show up on
their doorstep.

What is the driver of a sport, or anything?  Individuals, always.
Individuals will always find a way to do something regardless of the
presence of an institution.



  Who needs who?
 If the athletes who earn money and competed in a new competition that paid
 more than the Olympics or worlds arrived fully fledged as stars you would
 have a point.
 But who is going to nuture the athlete when he or she starts out? I'm
 talking pre-college age for those of you who live in the world's greatest
 polluter! Who runs the little leagues, the kids' competitions?
 The IAAF and Federations do many things other than run the top
competitions
 for the top athletes. And if they don't make money from those top
 competitions they can't pay to develop the sport, so the whole thing would
 collapse and a
 successful professional
 track and field league that pays better than they can make now
 would rapidly go out of business once the present stars had retired.
 Randall Northam





t-and-f: Re: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread DLTFNedit

The Kenyan federation seems to believe agents have no other motive than to squeeze as 
much money out of their athletes as possible. While every agent would like to earn as 
much money as possible, they know that the best way to do so is to have athletes that 
win medals (especially gold) at the big championships. Those who win the big meets get 
bigger bonuses, shoe contracts and appearance fees.

Let's applaud Ngeny for choosing to run against El G and not ducking until the big 
meet!
sideshow



Re: t-and-f: Funny?

2001-07-24 Thread WMurphy25


In a message dated 7/23/01 11:04:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know how she feels.  When I ran in high school, the
400 was the equivalent of a marathon for me. 

Try running the 220y on a straightaway when you're a freshman in high school. 
I thought I was gonna die!

Walt Murphy



t-and-f: Alan Webb is good, but what about Grace Momanyi?

2001-07-24 Thread E. Murdock

The results of the 2001 Wharf to Wharf 10K in Santa Cruz California have
been posted at http://www.wharftowharf.com/top100.htm.  Male Kenyans
took the top 5 spots (won by Evans Rutto in 27:16), but I think the most
impressive result was for the women.  Kenyan Grace Momanyi, who is only
18-years old (local TV says she is still attending high school in
Albuquerque, New Mexico) beat Jane Omoro and all the other women to win
the race in 31.23!  When I spoke to Grace the night before the race she
said she thought she was ready to run close to 31 minutes. Somewhat shy,
but quite poised for an 18-year old, she said she hoped it would be
enough to win.  At the post-race party she carried the big silver
winner's cup around as if she didn't quite know what to do with it.  I
asked her if she was satisfied with her race.  She said she was and said
the cool, foggy weather had helped.  I got the feeling she could go even
faster.  I agree that Alan Webb was a great high school distance runner,
but let's keep an eye on this great high schooler who is running with
the best in the world.



t-and-f: Re: tryanny

2001-07-24 Thread Ed Grant




Netters:
 It 
was Santayana, I believe, who said Those do do not read history are 
condemned to repeat it.

 A 
hundred years ago or so, athletes decided to run their own show in amateur 
track. The experiment didn't last very long and collapsed in a welter of the 
problems of that day: riingers, for example.

 Much 
as they may sometimes seem to be over-officious, dictatorial, etc. governing 
bodies are necessary. The request of the Kenyan Federation did not seem to me to 
be that unreasonable. 

 
Ed Grant


Re: t-and-f: Alan Webb is good, but what about Grace Momanyi?

2001-07-24 Thread Steve DiNatale

 I,m not knocking the performances at Wharf to Wharf but I believe that it is 6 miles 
not 10K. Still good running anyway.

Dina.
--

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:44:48  
 E. Murdock wrote:
The results of the 2001 Wharf to Wharf 10K in Santa Cruz California have
been posted at http://www.wharftowharf.com/top100.htm.  Male Kenyans
took the top 5 spots (won by Evans Rutto in 27:16), but I think the most
impressive result was for the women.  Kenyan Grace Momanyi, who is only
18-years old (local TV says she is still attending high school in
Albuquerque, New Mexico) beat Jane Omoro and all the other women to win
the race in 31.23!  When I spoke to Grace the night before the race she
said she thought she was ready to run close to 31 minutes. Somewhat shy,
but quite poised for an 18-year old, she said she hoped it would be
enough to win.  At the post-race party she carried the big silver
winner's cup around as if she didn't quite know what to do with it.  I
asked her if she was satisfied with her race.  She said she was and said
the cool, foggy weather had helped.  I got the feeling she could go even
faster.  I agree that Alan Webb was a great high school distance runner,
but let's keep an eye on this great high schooler who is running with
the best in the world.



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Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread Kurt Bray

It is possible to argue that if, say, Maurice Greene beat
everybody before the trials but was sick and had to miss them that he
deserved a place. Of course everyone knows the rules in the US's case but
what's the betting soon that this happens with someone and because track 
and
is now professional that someone tries to sue because of restraint of 
trade?


I'm betting against such a lawsuit.  The US is a lawsuit-happy place to be 
sure, but we'd have seen this kind of suit before now if it were going to 
happen.  Lots of top-ranked US athletes have had a bad day and failed to 
make the Olympic team by finishing out of the top three (potential gold 
medalists Dan O'Brien in '92 and Jeff Hartwig in 2000 come prominently to 
mind) yet none has sued.  Why?  Because everyone knows and understands the 
rules going in, and especially because the athletes themselves believe in 
and support the first-three-past-the-post rule.

Kurt Bray


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t-and-f: Greene on ESPN Wednesday

2001-07-24 Thread Tom Borish

Maurice Greene will appear on ESPN's Up Close on Wednesday, July 25 at 
5:30pm EST.  Of course, they spelled his last name wrong in the promo

http://espn.go.com/page2/tvlistings/programs/upclose.html?qt=up+close


Tom Borish
www.mactrack.net




Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited

2001-07-24 Thread Conway

Without the IAAF there would still be sport, but perhaps there would be no
World Championships .. It seems to me that the purpose of
organizations/federations/et al should be in great part to bring the
individuals together .. A national federation to bring it's
athletes/coaches/clubs/et al together .. A global body (like IAAF) to bring
the nations together .. And in this sense both the individuals and the
body are important .. OR at least should be ..

Instead of federations trying to strong arm the individuals .. Or the
individuals trying to exert their sense of strength over the federations, I
would think that BOTH would be best served working in some type of symbiotic
harmony .. And in order to do that they have to at some point be able to sit
at the table together to set up a set of rules/guidelines to determine how
they are going to function ..  For example both groups should have viable
representation sitting at the table to determine exactly what the rules will
be to determine a national team .. And then everyone live with the result
(i.e. no politicizing to try to gain individual change) ..

I'm probably over simplifying it .. But seems far to many times that
federations want to dictate while individuals run around crying about under
representation .. I think this happens often because federations/bodies tend
to be run by very old people who are a step or two behind what the
individuals see as progress .. And those old boy networks are usually very
hard to break into .. Perhaps there would be the place to start if we think
we need change within the larger/older bodies ..

Guys like Masback, Coe, Moorcroft getting involved in the sport after
retirement I think is the way to take the sport to the next phase .. And to
fix some of the inherent problems that exist within the federations ..
Problem is there aren't enough of them involved .. Carl Lewis should still
be in the sport ..Evelyn Ashford should still be in the sport .. MJ upon
retirement should be in or close to the sport .. Edwin Moses should still be
around .. Successful, intelligent people like these is where the future of
track and field should be ..

Just one rambling opinion ...

Conway Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: David Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: RE: Tyranny, revisited


 Development programs are a legitimate activity of an association, but
hardly
 essential. Many athletes find their way to success without the benefit of
an
 association.  Individuals, acting in their own best interest (for love of
 the sport, for money, for whatever turns them on) are self-motivated to
 coach, create meets, practice medicine, perform research, and compete.
Since
 when was the presence of a world or national bureaucracy necessary to
 motivate individuals - coaches, athletes - to be their best?  It is a
 fallacy to assume that if not for the IAAF we would not have a sport.  Do
 you not love this sport?  Are you not self-motivated to participate in it?

 Wouldn't an organization that runs a professional track and field league
 have a vested interest in promoting the sport at all levels, much like the
 PGA, etc.?  Of course.  But their promotion and development efforts would
 not be necessary to insure new athletes.  Motivated people will show up on
 their doorstep.

 What is the driver of a sport, or anything?  Individuals, always.
 Individuals will always find a way to do something regardless of the
 presence of an institution.


 
   Who needs who?
  If the athletes who earn money and competed in a new competition that
paid
  more than the Olympics or worlds arrived fully fledged as stars you
would
  have a point.
  But who is going to nuture the athlete when he or she starts out? I'm
  talking pre-college age for those of you who live in the world's
greatest
  polluter! Who runs the little leagues, the kids' competitions?
  The IAAF and Federations do many things other than run the top
 competitions
  for the top athletes. And if they don't make money from those top
  competitions they can't pay to develop the sport, so the whole thing
would
  collapse and a
  successful professional
  track and field league that pays better than they can make now
  would rapidly go out of business once the present stars had retired.
  Randall Northam
 







Re: t-and-f: Re: tryanny

2001-07-24 Thread Tom Fleming
Title: Re: t-and-f: Re: tryanny



on 7/24/01 7:05 PM, Ed Grant at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Netters:
 It was Santayana, I believe, who said Those do do not read history are condemned to repeat it.
 
 A hundred years ago or so, athletes decided to run their own show in amateur track. 
 
 Ed Grant


Ed,
 I must agree with you amateur track and field is run very well by our national federation and the IAAF! 
 NASCAR #1 for TV viewing in America , followed by golf!!
 But come on, do you believe that the Kenyan AA is NOT a corrupt group? I have spoken to many athletes and met some officials ... they would be in indicted here in USA!
 I would like to know hat does John Manners thinks about this?
 TF
 





Re: t-and-f: Funny?

2001-07-24 Thread vincent duncan

must of been on Randalls Island NY..I ran it all so seemed like a mile
back then.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 7/23/01 11:04:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I know how she feels.  When I ran in high school, the
 400 was the equivalent of a marathon for me. 

 Try running the 220y on a straightaway when you're a freshman in high school.
 I thought I was gonna die!

 Walt Murphy




Re: t-and-f: Funny?

2001-07-24 Thread WMurphy25


In a message dated 7/24/01 7:17:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 must of been on Randalls Island NY

It was! 

Walt Murphy



t-and-f: USATF Release: Stringfellow named Athlete of the Week

2001-07-24 Thread Usatfcom99

Contact:Jill M. Geer
Director of Communications
317-261-0478
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usatf.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, July 24, 2001

Stringfellow named USATF Athlete of the Week

INDIANAPOLIS - U.S. champion Savante Stringfellow turned in a 
personal-best and U.S.-leading mark of 8.38 meters (27 feet, 6 inches) in the 
long jump Sunday at USA Track  Field's Mid-Summer Jumps Classic to earn 
USATF Athlete of the Week honors for the week ending July 22.

Stringfellow's jump at Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex in Orlando, 
Florida, puts the two-time NCAA Outdoor champion and 2000 Olympian in solid 
position entering the IAAF World Outdoor Track  Field Championships August 
3-12 in Edmonton, Canada. NCAA indoor and outdoor triple jump champion Walter 
Davis also had an impressive effort at Orlando with a wind-aided mark of 
17.18m/56-4.5.

Having perhaps the strongest week of his career was middle distance 
runner Paul McMullen. The 1996 Olympic Trials champion and new father 
continued his inspiring international comeback in 2001 with a 1,500m  
personal record and U.S.-leading time of 3:33.89 at the Monaco Grand Prix. He 
also set a personal best last week in the mile, running 3:54.94 in London.

Other athletes posting U.S. leaders last week were Adam Goucher in the 
3,000m (7:34.96, personal record), U.S. champion Breaux Greer in the men's 
javelin (85.91m/281-10, personal record) and Suzy Favor Hamilton in the 
women's 1,500m (4:00.38).

USATF's Athlete of the Week program is designed to recognize outstanding 
performers at all levels of the sport. USATF names a new honoree each Tuesday 
and features the athlete on the USATF Web site. Selections are based on top 
performances and results from the previous week.

2001 USATF Athlete of the Week Winners: January 22, Alan Webb; January 29, 
Terrence Trammell; February 5, Stacy Dragila; February 12, Seneca Lassiter; 
February 20, Stacy Dragila; February 27, Andrew Pierce; March 6, Maurice 
Greene; March 14, Dawn Burrell: March 20, Ja'Warren Hooker; March 27, Dathan 
Ritzenhein; April 3, Phillip Dunn; April 10, Relay Team of Maurice Greene, 
Jon Drummond, Bernard Williams and Curtis Johnson; April 17, Rod DeHaven; 
April 24, Elizabeth Jackson; May 1, Stacy Dragila; May 8, Meb Keflezighi; May 
15, Tyree Washington; May 22, Charles Clinger; May 29, Alan Webb; June 5, 
Justin Gatlin; June 12, Stacy Dragila; June 19, Amy Linnen; June 26, Regina 
Jacobs; July 3, Willie Banks; July 10, Michelle Carter; July 17, Tim 
Montgomery; July 24, Savante Stringfellow.


TOP OUTDOOR PERFORMANCES, WEEK OF  JULY 23

MEN'S 100 METERS
9.98Maurice Greene at London Grand Prix

MEN'S 200 METERS
20.45Kevin Little at London Grand Prix  

MEN'S 400 METERS
45.45   Jerome Young at London Grand Prix

MEN'S 800 METERS
1:45.89   David Krummenacker at Stockholm Grand Prix   

MEN'S 1,500 METERS
3:33.89   Paul McMullen at Monaco Grand Prix (national leader)

MEN'S ONE MILE
3:54.94   Paul McMullen at London Grand Prix 

MEN'S 3,000 METERS
7:34.96   Adam Goucher  at Monaco Grand Prix (national leader)

MEN'S 3,000 METERS STEEPLECHASE
8:21.00Anthony Famiglietti at Stockholm Grand Prix 

MEN'S 110-METERS HURDLES
13.18   Allen Johnson at Monaco Grand Prix  

MEN'S 400-METERS HURDLES
48.36   Angelo Taylor at London Grand Prix

MEN'S HIGH JUMP
7-5.(2.26m)  Charles Clinger at Stockholm Grand Prix 

MEN'S POLE VAULT
19-0.25 (5.80m) Nick Hysong at Monaco Grand Prix  
   Jeff Hartwig at Monaco Grand Prix

MEN'S LONG JUMP
27-6 (8.38m)   Savante Stringfellow (Mississippi) at Orlando, Florida 
(national leader)

MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP
56-4.5 (17.18m) (wind aided)Walter Davis (LSU) at Orlando, Florida

MEN'S SHOT PUT
68-5.75 (20.87m)   Andy Bloom at Indianapolis 

MEN'S DISCUS THROW
215-4 (65.64m)   Andy Bloom at Indianapolis

MEN'S HAMMER THROW
239-7 (73.02m)   Kevin McMahon at Indianapolis

MEN'S JAVELIN THROW
281-10 (85.91m)Breaux Greer at London Grand Prix (national leader)
278-1 (84.76m)  Breaux Greer at Stockholm Grand Prix

MEN'S DECATHLON
7542   David Lemen (Georgia) at Filderstadt-Bernhausen, Germany

MEN'S 4 x 100-METERS RELAY
37.93HSI team at London Grand Prix 

WOMEN'S 100 METERS
10.98 Chryste Gaines at Monaco at Grand Prix

WOMEN'S 200 METERS
22.86   LaTasha Jenkins at Stockholm Grand Prix 

WOMEN'S 400 METERS
51.32 Monique Hennagan at Monaco Grand Prix

WOMEN'S 800 METERS
2:00.38Jen Toomey at Cuxhaven, Germany  

WOMEN'S 1,500 METERS 
4:00.38   Suzy Favor Hamilton at Monaco Grand Prix (national leader) 

WOMEN'S 3,000 METERS
8:45.77   Deena Drossin at Monaco Grand Prix

WOMEN'S 5,000 METERS
15:05.48   Marla Runyan at London Grand Prix 
15:08.02   Deena Drossin at Stockholm Grand Prix

WOMEN'S 10,000 METERS
32:32.00   Kim Fitchen at Stanford Qualifier

WOMEN'S 100-METERS HURDLES
12.75   Anjanette Kirkland at Monaco Grand Prix

WOMEN'S 400-METERS HURDLES

t-and-f: re: Alan Webb is good, but what about Grace Momanyi?

2001-07-24 Thread Pat Crandall





E. Murdock wrote
 but I think the most impressive 
result was for the women. Kenyan Grace Momanyi, who is only18-years old 
(local TV says she is still attending high school in Albuquerque, New Mexico) 
beat Jane Omoro and all the other women to win the race in 31.23
A quick Google Search reveals 
this:
GENESIS RIVERSIDE 4 MILERPittsburgh, PASept. 
2, 20001 Joseph Ndiritu, 26, Hamilton, Ontario   	18:284:37
2 Julius Githaka, 24, Hamilton, Ontario   	19:014:45
3 Jason Bodnar, 26, Ft Lauderdale, FL   	19:514:58
4 Joseph Mahoney, 28, Pittsburgh, PA   	19:554:59
5 Dan Lesser, 24, Pittsburgh, PA  	19:574:59
6 Michael Scaffardi, 23, Latrobe, PA  	20:085:02
7 John Brockenbrough, 42, Murrysville, 	20:445:11
8 Grace Momanyi, 19*, Hamilton, Ontario  	20:465:11
May 6, 2001
1. Lyudmila Vasilyeva 31 25:31 $1,000* 2. Grace Momanyi 
18 22:53 $500 
***
I doubt she's a high 
schooler.


t-and-f: Australian Team for Edmonton

2001-07-24 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL

http://admin.listbox.com/ath_australia_release/current/0001.html




t-and-f: USATF Release: Team USA roster for World Championships announced

2001-07-24 Thread Usatfcom99

CONTACT:Jill M. Geer
Director of Communications
317-261-0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usatf.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, July 24, 2001

Team USA roster for World Championships announced

INDIANAPOLIS - With 13 current or former Olympic gold medalists leading the 
way, Team USA will enter the IAAF World Outdoor Track  Field Championships 
August 3-12 in Edmonton, Canada, in position to defend its status as the 
World's #1 Track  Field Team.

Olympic gold medalists Marion Jones, Maurice Greene, Stacy Dragila, Angelo 
Taylor, Allen Johnson, Gail Devers, Bernard Williams, Tim Montgomery, Antonio 
Pettigrew, Jerome Young, Jon Drummond, Chryste Gaines and Monique Hennagan 
are on the Team USA roster for Edmonton, announced Tuesday by USA Track  
Field. Sixty-three of the team's athletes were 2000 Olympians.

U.S. athletes who will defend 1999 World titles include Jones, who returns to 
defend her 1999 World Championship in the 100 meters and will go for her 
first 200 title in Edmonton; Greene in the men's 100, 200; Dragila in the 
women's pole vault; Devers in the women's 100m hurdles; and Inger Miller in 
the women's 200. Also entering the meet as a favorite is World Indoor 
champion John Godina in the shot put, Olympic gold medalist Angelo Taylor in 
the 400m hurdles, world record holder Khalid Khannouchi in the men's 
marathon, World Indoor champion Lawrence Johnson in the men's pole vault, and 
Olympic champion Nick Hysong in the men's pole vault.

Also announced Tuesday were the women's relay pools. Listed in the 4x100 pool 
are 1996 Olympic relay gold medalists Chryste Gaines and Inger Miller, 2000 
Olympic relay bronze medalist Torri Edwards; three-time NCAA 100m champion 
Angela Williams, U.S. third-place finisher Kelli White, U.S. Championships 
100m finalist Brianna Glenn, and any other athlete on the Team USA roster.

In the women's 4x400 pool are two-time Olympic relay gold medalist Jearl 
Miles-Clark, 2000 relay gold medalist Monique Hennagan, Olympian Michelle 
Collins, 400m team member Demetria Washington, Olympic relay pool member Miki 
Barber and her twin sister, Me'Lisa Barber, two-time U.S. Indoor champion 
Suziann Reid, and any U.S. team member. Marion Jones' relay status has not 
yet been decided.

The announcement of the Team USA World Championships roster carried a few 
changes or clarifications: Regina Jacobs, U.S. champion at 800m and 1,500m, 
has entered those two events. She had  placed second in the 5,000m at the GMC 
Envoy USA Outdoor Championships and was eligible to compete in the longer 
event as well. Jacobs will be replaced in the 5,000 by two-time Olympian Amy 
Rudolph.

Olympic and World Championships relay gold medalist Jon Drummond was added to 
the men's 4x100m relay pool, as well as Mickey Grimes.

Orin Ritchburg of the University of Washington leads the men's team as head 
coach. His staff includes assistants Ron Allice (Southern Cal), Ken Bantum 
(former St. John's coach), Ken Brauman (Seminole HS) and Kelly Sullivan 
(Willamette). Team manager is James Williams (Minnesota State-Moorhead), 
assisted by Scott Davis (Mt SAC Relays).

J.J. Clark of the University of Florida heads the women's coaching staff. 
Joining him on staff as assistants are Beth Alford-Sullivan (Penn State), 
Chandra Cheeseborough (Tennessee State), Ramona Pagel (Ken State) and John 
Rembao (University of Texas). Head manager is Maryanne Torrellas (Connecticut 
Racewalkers Club), assisted by Kim Duyst (Cal State-Stanislaus).

TEAM USA ROSTER, 2001 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
As of July 24, 2001
Subject to change

MEN
100m: Tim Montgomery, Bernard Williams, Curtis Johnson, Maurice Greene 

200m: Shawn Crawford, Ramon Clay, Kevin Little, Maurice Greene

400m: Antonio Pettigrew, Leonard Byrd, Jerome Young

800m: David Krummenacker, Derrick Peterson, Khadevis Robinson 

1500m: Seneca Lassiter, Paul McMullen, Gabriel Jennings

3000m Steeplechase: Thomas Chorny, Anthony Famiglietti, Tim Broe 

5000m: Bob Kennedy, Adam Goucher, Nick Rogers 

10,000m: Abdi Abdirahman, Mebrahtom Keflezighi, Alan Culpepper 

Marathon: Khalid Khannouchi, David Morris, Josh Cox, Eddy Hellebuyck, Mike 
Dudley

110m Hurdles: Allen Johnson, Terrence Trammell, Dawane Wallace 

400m Hurdles: Angelo Taylor, Calvin Davis, James Carter 

20K Walk: Tim Seaman 

50K Walk: Phillip Dunn, Curt Clausen

High Jump: Nathan Leeper, Charles Austin, Dave Furman 

Pole Vault: Lawrence Johnson, Tim Mack, Nick Hysong 

Long Jump: Savante Stringfellow, Miguel Pate, Dwight Phillips 

Triple Jump: LaMark Carter, Robert Howard, Walter Davis 

Shot Put: John Godina, Adam Nelson, John Davis 

Discus: Adam Setliff, John Godina, Andrew Bloom 

Hammer: Kevin McMahon 

Javelin: Breaux Greer, Tom Pukstys 

Decathlon: Kip Janvrin, Phil McMullen, Bryan Clay 

4x100m relay pool (subject to change): Maurice Greene, Bernard Williams, 
Curtis Johnson, J.J. Johnson, Tim Montgomery, Dennis Mitchell, Jonathan 
Carter, Jon 

t-and-f: Turtle blood and caterpillar fungus

2001-07-24 Thread Barbara George Grenier

Press release state that Ma will be in Edmonton with his turtle blood and 
caterpillar fungus.
I think these concoctions should be tried by someone.
The person best qualified to this would be Garry Hill. He has the 
investigative reporter skills, and according to accounts on this list can 
consume large quantities of concoctions such as terminators.

George




(fwd) t-and-f: Turtle blood and caterpillar fungus

2001-07-24 Thread koala

Our good journalist friend Ken, the TrackCEO from San Diego, already
tried this, in an endeavour to beat the competition and win a Pulitzer
prize.
Only, he got the formula mixed up and asked the Chinese bartender for
a turtle fungus and caterpillar blood.

Instead of ending up a superhuman who can run like the wind,
he ended up running like a human while passing super wind.

Oh well...we'll go after the Pulitzer another year...

Come clean Ken, inquiring minds want to know...:-)

RT


On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:16:36 -0700, Barbara  George Grenier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Press release state that Ma will be in Edmonton with his turtle blood and 
caterpillar fungus.
I think these concoctions should be tried by someone.
The person best qualified to this would be Garry Hill. He has the 
investigative reporter skills, and according to accounts on this list can 
consume large quantities of concoctions such as terminators.

George




t-and-f: Ma move may test China's relations with IOC

2001-07-24 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Wednesday 25 July 2001
Tom Knight




CHINA'S decision to appoint Ma Junren as deputy head coach of their team for
the world championships could backfire after the suspension of two of his
athletes for failing drug tests.

Ma's techniques have been under suspicion ever since his army of female
runners swept the board at the 1993 world championships before going on to
smash world records at 3,000m and 10,000m at the Chinese national
championships.

Those performances and others since have been clouded by allegations of drug
abuse though Ma claimed they were the result of training and a diet of
turtle blood and caterpillars.

Last year, six of Ma's runners were among 27 athletes dropped from the
Chinese Olympic team when tests showed they might have taken the banned
blood-boosting drug, erythropoietin (EPO).

Liqing Song was one of them. Yesterday, the International Amateur Athletic
Federation announced that she, along with Lili Yin, the 1998 world junior
champion at 3,000m and 5,000m, had been banned for two years after failing
out-of-competition tests last July.

Earlier this week, senior Chinese officials appeared confused by the alarm
over Ma's appointment. Lou Dapeng, an IAAF vice-president and a member of
Beijing's successful 2008 Olympic bid team, even denied there had been
allegations against Ma.

The Chinese team in Edmonton contain three of Ma's athletes, including Dong
Yanmei and Lan Lixin, who were also dropped from the Olympics. Their
presence is bound to attract the attention of the IAAF's out-of-competition
testing team in Canada.

More controversy for China would mean an early test of their relationship
with the International Olympic Committee, whose new president, Jacques
Rogge, is determined to pursue the war against drug takers.

Speaking in Spain yesterday, Rogge ruled out any reduction in the list of
banned doping substances, a policy proposed by his predecessor Juan Antonio
Samaranch.

Said Rogge: With all due respect, he is not aware of the reality in sports
medicine and doping.

Eamonn Condon
www.RunnersGoal.com




t-and-f: Decision day for Campbell

2001-07-24 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Wednesday 25 July 2001
Tom Knight




DARREN CAMPBELL, whose season has been blighted by injury, will decide today
if he will travel to Edmonton with the Great Britain team for the world
championships.

After failing to recover from a hamstring problem in time to win a place in
the 100m or 200m, Campbell's only option is to go to Canada as part of the
sprint relay squad.

But the Olympic 200m silver medallist may decide to concentrate on getting
fit in time to recover his season in the remainder of the summer grand prix
meetings.

Donna Fraser has delayed her flight to Canada because of her ongoing battle
to recover from an Achilles tendon injury. Determined to avoid surgery, the
400m runner, who finished fourth in Sydney, has raced only four times this
summer and was surprised to have been selected.

Tessa Sanderson, the 1984 Olympic javelin champion who combines her role as
the vice-chair of Sport England with being an agent, has hit out at the
selectors for not picking the AAA champion, Diane Allahgreen, for the 100m
hurdles.

Allahgreen's best this summer is 13.08sec, 0.03sec short of the A standard
qualifying time. Sanderson, who looks after Allahgreen, said the decision
was unfair.

Max Jones, UK Athletics' performance director, said an A standard, achieved
this year or last, was the minimum requirement for track events.

Eamonn Condon
www.RunnersGoal.com




t-and-f: USATF Release: Junior Olympics kick off in Sacramento

2001-07-24 Thread Usatfcom99
Melissa Beasley
Communications Coordinator
USA Track  Field
916-447-1700 (In Sacramento)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usatf.org
 
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Tuesday, July 24, 2001

Junior Olympic National Championships 
Kick Off in California Sun
 
SACRAMENTO – With temperatures soaring in the triple digits, the 35th annual 
USA Track  Field Junior Olympic Championships began preliminary and finals 
action in the multi events as well as finals in the steeplechase and race 
walk for several age divisions on Tuesday. This is the final meet of the 
Verizon Youth Series.
 
The meet, being webcast live by USATF, in cooperation with i2sports 
Trackmeets.com, is taking place at California State University, Sacramento, 
site of the 2000 and 2004 U.S. Olympic Track  Field Trials.
 
Action was hot off and on the track early on Tuesday, with WNY Jets’ Alyissa 
Hasan establishing a new youth girls pentathlon record with 3521 points. 
Hasan broke Jacquelyn Johnson’s mark of 3474 points, set in 1998. In the 
youth boys pentathlon competition, New World Track Club’s Michael Thomas 
(3149) edged out San Diego Athlete’s Glen Woods (3059) to claim the youth 
boys title.
 
In Tuesday’s race walk action, Andrew Adams (Spartanburg) and Victoria 
Dell’Aquila (NJ Striders) both won the bantam division of the 1500m race 
walk. Adams won the boys division (7:16.07), while Dell’Aquila won the girls 
division (8:40.54). While in the midget division, Eric Lawson (Elgin Sharks 
TC) won the boys division (7:32.37), while Allison Snochowski (New Balance) 
won the girls division (7:50.37) of the 1500m race walk.
 
Other finals on Tuesday included the 2000m steeplechase, where David Ryan 
(Havasu Harriers) won the intermediate boys division (6:12.62), while Richie 
Pemberton (Bozeman Trac) won the young men division (6:08.70). 
 
After four events in the young women’s heptathlon, twin sisters Diana (3262) 
and Julie (3055) Pickler lead the competition. The Picklers both compete for 
theTexas Express. World Track Club’s Gayle Hunter leads the intermediate 
girls heptathlon with 2840 points through four events. 
 
Through five events of the intermediate boys decathlon, Pre TC’s Ben Looney 
leads with 3255 points, while Team Idaho’s Donovan Kilmartin, a member of the 
World Youth Championships team that competed last week in Debrecen, Hungary, 
is the day 1 leader with 3893 points.
 
In order to be eligible to compete at the 2001 USA Track  Field Junior 
Olympic Championships, athletes had to advance through association and 
regional competitions. USA Track  Field is comprised of 57 local 
Associations across the country, advancers then moved on to one of the 16 
Regional competitions.
 
Athletes here in Sacramento compete in one of five age divisions, determined 
by birth year. Those age divisions are Bantam (1991 or later), Midget 
(1989-90), Youth (1987-88), Intermediate (1985-86) and Young Men/Women 
(1983-84). 
 
For more information on the 2001 USA Track  Field Junior Olympic 
Championships, all USATF Youth programs and the Verizon Youth Series, 
including complete results, visit the USATF web site at www.usatf.org.
 
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