RE: t-and-f: It's not fair...
It's nice to see how Princeton University gives back to the community. Truly heartwarming isn't it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Berry,Bruce Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:57 AM To: Robert Kiessling; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Track and Field List Subject: RE: t-and-f: It's not fair... This situation is REALLY BAD, but as Bob said this may be the ONE time that the NJSIAA has tried to do something to help the sport and kids. Being a former Gr. IV Head Coach I know the frustrations of trying to get a team ready to compete early then late of the M of C. One solution could be instead of just switching the groups around time wise (Group IV had a 9am start this year but will start at 1pm next year) switch what groups compete on the early dates and who competes on the late dates (i.e. - next year Gr. I IV have relays on the Jan. 18th weekend and indiv. on the Feb. 2nd weekend). Also, I'm sure someone has looked into it, but what about The Peddie School or Lawrencevill Prep School (they have a 200 meter Mondo banked, but I do not know the seating). Finally, someone may need to CONVINCE Princeton officials of the value and importance of athletics in kids lives and hopefully they will soften their position and let the kids play! It stinks but what else can be done? Bruce Berry Akron Track and Field - Assistant Coach -Original Message- From: Robert Kiessling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Track and Field List Subject: Re: t-and-f: It's not fair... Larry: I can tell you, based on inside knowledge, that this situation is not one that the NJSIAA has chosen voluntarily. They and the Winter Track Committee know the whole scenario is unfair. But they have to deal with whatever dates Princeton gives them. Each year those dates are less and less desirable. Years ago, we had a better choice and the setup was State Relay Championships on the first Weekend in February ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - State Individual Championship Meets two weekends later, all on the same weekend ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - and the weekend after that was the Meet of Champions. It was great, but impossible to do now. Because of the number of Athletes and Spectators involved, there is no other place in the State to hold the meet. Princeton almost through out the whole program a few years ago and Boyd Sands and to do a lot of negotiating just to keep us in - and this is while we pay them $1100 an hour. I am now coaching at a Group IV school and am not happy about the situation, but I also know that the powers that be did not DO this to us. They know that no one is happy, but unless a place an be found to run that can also hold a couple of thousand people ( spectators and runners) we are stuck. One of these years Princeton is going to give us dates in December and tell the NJSIAA to take it or leave it. Guess what, we will be having State Meets in December. There just is no choice. The other thing is that is if we are out of Princeton, which can happen, there will be NO State Meets and watch as schools all over the State use that as an excuse to cancel Winter Track. You can complain all that you want, but what everyone needs is another AVAILABLE Site. The 168th Street Armory is out as they are booked every minute during the winter. And remember, it has to be available for two weekends all day Saturday Sunday and another weekend day for half a day, all of this in February. It has to sit a few thousand people and have a 200 meter track. There is no place in New Jersey that can meet the physical requirements not to mention the dates. In South Jersey, we run ALL of our meets in Pennsylvania. I know that even in North Jersey, which does have number of tracks that some conference meets are run at the Armory in New York City ( Out of State). If you can solve all of these problems, you will be the hero in New Jersey among the track people forever. You have no idea how many people have tried to address your concerns every year. But if you have the solution, we are willing to take it. The NJSIAA Committee has said that for years. In South Jersey we have tried to solve our smaller scale problems for years. We have no viable indoor tracks for very large scale competitions. that is the problem. What is the answer unless someone contacts Bill Gates to build and maintain one for us? Bob Kiessling New Jersey High School Track Coach
t-and-f: re: It's not fair...
Here on Long Island, the kids in Nassau County have been told by the facility operators that they can go to hell, literally. This season, they were forced to schedule meets outdoors for the 1st time in almost 20 years. Thankfully, the weather being so miserable, the meets got cancelled, but that leaves another problem - that being not enough competition for all but the top kids. What makes it worse is that every facility on LI was build with 100% taxpayer monies and is owned by public institutions of higher education. Yet, those same taxpayers can't use them at all. You know you've been screwed royally when it hurts to sit down! MJR mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: t-and-f: It's not fair...
Rich Harrington wrote: It's nice to see how Princeton University gives back to the community. Truly heartwarming isn't it? Well, you have to remember that Jadwin Gym isn't just a track - it's also Princeton's home venue for Basketball: Home games on Saturdays: 2/1 (men) 2/8 (women) 2/15(men) 2/22(women) 3/8 (men) Varsity Track 1/25 Princeton Relays 2/8 Penn State/Penn Triangular Meet (Women's) So, it's already got a pretty crowded schedule. I think that in the past, the Women's team used to play up in Dillon Gym, which alleviated some of that schedule crunch, though I'm not sure when the switch occurred. Phil Larry: I can tell you, based on inside knowledge, that this situation is not one that the NJSIAA has chosen voluntarily. They and the Winter Track Committee know the whole scenario is unfair. But they have to deal with whatever dates Princeton gives them. Each year those dates are less and less desirable. Years ago, we had a better choice and the setup was State Relay Championships on the first Weekend in February ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - State Individual Championship Meets two weekends later, all on the same weekend ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - and the weekend after that was the Meet of Champions.
Re: t-and-f: re: It's not fair...
MJR - Maybe you could contact everybody's favorite senator from New York :) Certainly this is a major problem in cold weather states around the country. The USATF associations committee regularly discusses this issue as it relates to access for youth clubs. As bad as facility access is for high schools, it is worse for youth clubs. And we have not come up with an answer. And in some places, getting outdoor facilities is no picnic, either. - Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: t-and-f: re: It's not fair... Here on Long Island, the kids in Nassau County have been told by the facility operators that they can go to hell, literally. This season, they were forced to schedule meets outdoors for the 1st time in almost 20 years. Thankfully, the weather being so miserable, the meets got cancelled, but that leaves another problem - that being not enough competition for all but the top kids. What makes it worse is that every facility on LI was build with 100% taxpayer monies and is owned by public institutions of higher education. Yet, those same taxpayers can't use them at all. You know you've been screwed royally when it hurts to sit down! MJR mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: t-and-f: It's not fair...
I seem recall running there on Sundays and weeknights at Jadwin when I was in H.S., though my memory could be getting foggy 15 years later. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: It's not fair... Rich Harrington wrote: It's nice to see how Princeton University gives back to the community. Truly heartwarming isn't it? Well, you have to remember that Jadwin Gym isn't just a track - it's also Princeton's home venue for Basketball: Home games on Saturdays: 2/1 (men) 2/8 (women) 2/15(men) 2/22(women) 3/8 (men) Varsity Track 1/25 Princeton Relays 2/8 Penn State/Penn Triangular Meet (Women's) So, it's already got a pretty crowded schedule. I think that in the past, the Women's team used to play up in Dillon Gym, which alleviated some of that schedule crunch, though I'm not sure when the switch occurred. Phil Larry: I can tell you, based on inside knowledge, that this situation is not one that the NJSIAA has chosen voluntarily. They and the Winter Track Committee know the whole scenario is unfair. But they have to deal with whatever dates Princeton gives them. Each year those dates are less and less desirable. Years ago, we had a better choice and the setup was State Relay Championships on the first Weekend in February ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - State Individual Championship Meets two weekends later, all on the same weekend ( Two Groups Saturday, Two Groups Sunday) - and the weekend after that was the Meet of Champions.
Re: t-and-f: old long jump stat question
If memory serves, that Coleman mark was subsequently found to be bogus which is why we removed it from the ATFS Annuals. Scott Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently working on progressive all-time lists for various events and have come upon something weird. Does anyone remember an American long jumper Ron Coleman from the early 70's? He appears in the ATFS 1972 all-time list as the #5 performer of all-time, having jumped 8.25m (I'm sure it was actually measured at 27'0 3/4) at Irvine on June 16 1971. This performance is listed also in the 1975 ATFS annual, but not in the 1976 ATFS annual and not in any subsequent ATFS or FAST publications that I have. I was two in 1971 so my memory of the performance is a little shaky. But I know there are people on this list who were actually keeping stats at the time, and a 27-footer would not have passed unnoticed - why would Ron Coleman appear in the stats books immediately after his jump and then disappear four years later? Apologies to anyone offended by the subject line OLD long jump stat question in reference to something from the 70's. david [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: One down . . .
A note yesterday from Carole Fuchs, off-list, told of the French indoor record for the women's pole vault being broken twice at 4.40m on 19 January, by Vanessa Boslak at Liévin and by Agnés Livebardon at Clermont-Ferrand. A follow-up note today says that the French federation won't ratify the Livebardon record, because the pegs on the standards were last year's length (75mm) instead of this year's 55mm. That's the first instance I've heard of the new peg length invalidating a record, but I'd have to predict it won't be the last. I wonder if the federation will also nullify the credentials of the field referee for authorizing use of improper equipment? Other new national records in the event over the weekend were by Mexico's Alejandra Meza, 3.80m and 3.90m at Houston, and Elisabete Tavares tying her own Portugese record of 4.00m at Eaubonne. Thanks to Mike Takaha and Glen McMicken for answering the question I posted about Meza's intermediate height and for again confirming that this list is the best of all resources for track fans. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: tf extinct
Well, we have now ceased to even be listed under other sports at Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com). They have no track coverage at all. I had my My Yahoo! page (which is my home page) set up to include track headlines in my news headlines section, but now the link no longer works (even though tf is still listed in the set-up options). I wrote to them and requested that track coverage be returned. Man, I always thought the other sports designation was embarrassing. Now we just don't exist. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
t-and-f: re It's not fair
Netters: The situation in NJ is more complicated than either Larry Morgan or Bob Kiessling has indicated in their posts What they did not say is that the NJSIAA reaps a huge profit each e=year from track and field entries in the three seasons---CC, indoor and out. The indoor profit is the smallest because of the heavy costs in renting Provecton, but still considerable. The total for the three seasons is well into six figures and tis has been going on for years/. What's wrong with this? Two things. 1) It means that the track and field budgets at state high schools are used to subsidize other state tournaments on which the state loses money; 2) the other profitable sports---football, baseketball, wrestling---earn their money from the gate, not from heavy entry fees. (In football, for example, the NJSIAA takes all the gate from playoff games after expenses have been paid; the schools get nothing). Princeton has no obligation to host the championships. It is a private institution. In fact there would hardly be an indoor season at all in New Jersey were it not for private schools and colleges; the only public facitilites are a 160M track at Red Bank Regional (now used exclusively by Shore area schools; the onetime open invitation meets have disappeared, partly because the NJISIAA does not allow the indoor season to begin util the third week in December, and the totally inadequate 12-lap-to-a-mile board track painted around the basketball court at Elizabeth HS, a facility used only for Union County meets (which several county schools will not enter because ot the facility). A third public facility has recently reopened and will be improved greatly by next winter---the Jersey City Armory where the state program was resuscitated 40 years ago. A 200-meter Mondo track is due to be installed there following this indoor season.In time, it could be suitable again for the state meets. There is no chance that the state meet would ever cross the river to the NY Armory even if dates were available there--this would be too much of an embarrassment, not only for the NJSIAA, but for NJ politicians as well. The press must take part of the responsibility for the present situation. The Star-Ledger, for example, is totally in the lap of the NJSISAA and has been for years. The other papers simply ignore the situation for the most part---most of the sports editors, frankly, would like track and field (particularly the indoor variety, to disappear. And track and field parents, for the most part, do not have the clout to change this situation On another subject which larry Morgan recently raised, New Jersey has had a four-event rule since it was adopted by the national Federation, but until this year, athletes had to divide them between track and field on either a 3-1 or 2-2 ratio. The first athlete to gain four golds in a single meet with largely individual medals was Megs Didario of Berkeley Heights last Friday night in the Mountain Valley Conference meet. Several others had done it in earlier relay meets. It will be a lot more common outdoors for two reasons: more short events and a two-day state meet (as well as several two-day county and league meets). Running four events on a very occasional basis in a two-day meet should pose no problem, but I'm afaraid that some coaches will make a regular thing of it in one-day meets, just as they have overrun athletes in the past when the limit was three events. Ed Grant.
Re: t-and-f: tf extinct
Lee Nichols wrote: Well, we have now ceased to even be listed under other sports at Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com). They have no track coverage at all. I had my My Yahoo! page (which is my home page) set up to include track headlines in my news headlines section, but now the link no longer works (even though tf is still listed in the set-up options). I wrote to them and requested that track coverage be returned. Well, you can still get track news through Yahoo-UK http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/athletics/index.html Man, I always thought the other sports designation was embarrassing. Now we just don't exist. At least that's only in the US... I actually noticed the same thing the other day looking at CBS Sportsline - the only track news to be found was coverage of the 2000 Olympics. Phil
t-and-f: UW Indoor Meet Attendance Error
Listers, The report by the UW Sports Information Department that the meet at the Dempsey Center this past weekend was the largest ever in attendance in the state of Washington was laughable at best and terrible reporting at the very least. The long-time mentor of the UW track field program, Stan Hiserman, directed seven consecutive Seattle Indoor Track Field Invitational meets at the then-new Seattle Center Coliseum (now Key Arena) from 1965-71 which all sold out at around 10,900. The meet was cancelled in 1972 due to a scheduling conflict with a boat show, and attempts to bring it back in 1973 and 1974 lost money. A professional tour stop (anyone else remember the old ITA besides me and Garry Hill and Bob Hersh?) reported crowds using a dart board, which obviously weren't connected to reality. Bill Roe [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360/734-8892 voice 734-8820 fax
Re: t-and-f: tf extinct
At least that's only in the US... I actually noticed the same thing theother day looking at CBS Sportsline - the only track news to be found was coverage of the 2000 Olympics. Speaking of CBS, when I contacted them over the summer of trying to use the domain ncaatrack.com for my website, they told me that in partnership with the NCAA and CBS I was not allowed to use it. To their dismay, I still own the rights to the domain (hehe). The other reason CBS stated they did not grant me the rights to the name was because they planned on dedicating a track field page within their college sports coverage on CBS Sportsline. As you stated, all I can still find is coverage of the 2000 Olympics. I'm sure they are working real hard on covering collegiate track field :) On another note -- we were shot down from the NCAA and ESPN to provide a live webcast from the 2003 NCAA Indoor Track Field Championships as a part of Tracksharkmedia.org. Back to the drawing board... Tom Borish www.trackshark.com _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: t-and-f: UW Indoor Meet Attendance Error
(anyone else remember the old ITA besides me and Garry Hill and Bob Hersh?) Absolutely Bring back the rabbit lights! RT
Re: t-and-f: UW Indoor Meet Attendance Error
Bill Roe wrote: A professional tour stop (anyone else remember the old ITA besides me and Garry Hill and Bob Hersh?) reported crowds using a dart board, which obviously weren't connected to reality. Some of the big stars of ITA were Jim Ryun and Ben Jipcho. (Keino Lindgren too, I believe.) As I recall, one of their gimmicks was a series of lights set up around the track which indicated record pace. (Did they even have any outdoor meets?) Some of these meets even got national televised coverage but after the ITA was dissolved, the athletes who were involved had to struggle to get reinstated as amateurs. As far as I'm concerned, all that the ITA ever did was to essentially shorten the careers of some good athletes. I guess the reverse was true of a few of the legends, some of whom seemed really ancient (i.e. well into their 30s!) at the time and must have come out of retirement to compete due to their marquee value.I also recall hearing that many athletes couldn't afford to go professional as they would lose out on their lucrative amateur earnings. bob
Re: t-and-f: tf extinct
I still have my yahoo home page setup to get track headlines on My Yahoo page. And it works. The latest is from two days ago, but that's not unusual. So I'm not sure where it as been removed from. - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: tf extinct Lee Nichols wrote: Well, we have now ceased to even be listed under other sports at Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com). They have no track coverage at all. I had my My Yahoo! page (which is my home page) set up to include track headlines in my news headlines section, but now the link no longer works (even though tf is still listed in the set-up options). I wrote to them and requested that track coverage be returned. Well, you can still get track news through Yahoo-UK http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/athletics/index.html Man, I always thought the other sports designation was embarrassing. Now we just don't exist. At least that's only in the US... I actually noticed the same thing the other day looking at CBS Sportsline - the only track news to be found was coverage of the 2000 Olympics. Phil
t-and-f: Track Meets in San Francisco Area
Does anyone know of any all-comers track meets (outdoor or indoor) within 50 miles or so of the San Francisco area? I am specifically looking for distance events ranging from 1,500m - 5,000 metres for women/girls. 'Tis for a 5-minute miler, 10.55 2-mile. etc. Thanks. Cheers Timothy Patrick O'Dowd www.irishrunner.com Keeping Track of Ireland
Re: t-and-f: Track Meets in San Francisco Area
Los Gatos, Berkeley, Diablo Valley College all have all comers now, all are within 50 miles of SF. Scroll to the bottom of this link for the current info: http://www.pausatf.org/data/2002/TFMeets2002.html Only indoor meets are in Reno (3+ hour drive) starting 2/1: http://www.pausatf.org/data/2003/TFSchedule2003.html Joe Tim Karen O'Dowd wrote: Does anyone know of any all-comers track meets (outdoor or indoor) within 50 miles or so of the San Francisco area? I am specifically looking for distance events ranging from 1,500m - 5,000 metres for women/girls. 'Tis for a 5-minute miler, 10.55 2-mile. etc. Thanks. Cheers Timothy Patrick O'Dowd www.irishrunner.com Keeping Track of Ireland
t-and-f: USATF News Notes: January 21, 2003
Contact: Melvin Jackson II Communications Coordinator USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 4, Number 7January 21, 2003 In this edition: - Record bonuses announced for adidas Boston Indoor Games - Former Boston Marathon director dies at 91 = Record bonuses announced for adidas Boston Indoor Games Athletes will have plenty of incentive when they take to the track February 1 for the adidas Boston Indoor Games, the first stop on USA Track Field's 2003 Indoor Golden Spike Tour. Any athlete breaking a world record at the meet will receive $25,000 in bonus money, while an American record is worth $10,000. Fans can watch athletes compete as the go for the greenbacks at Boston when the meet is broadcast LIVE February 1 on national television, from 6 to 7 p.m. Eastern Time, on ESPN2. In its seven-year history, the adidas Boston Indoor Games has awarded $140,000 in prize money, with Global Athletics and Marketing, Inc., the meet organizer, backing the bonuses. For more information on the 2003 USATF Indoor Golden Spike Tour, visit the USATF Web site, www.usatf.org Former Boston Marathon director dies at 91 William T. Cloney, who oversaw the growth of the Boston Marathon from a race of 147 men into an international event drawing thousands of male and female runners, died Thursday from a brief illness. He was 91. Under Cloney, the marathon established qualifying times in the early 1970s, and he oversaw the race's rapid growth during the running boom of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Cloney was the race director from 1947 to 1982 and president of the Boston Athletic Association from 1964 to 1982. From 1947 to 1953, Cloney taught English and journalism at Northeastern University while also serving as the school's sports information director. Cloney was a sports writer at the Boston Herald and a sports editor and columnist for the Boston Post. From 1956 until his 1977 retirement, he was a publicist for Keystone Custodian Funds of Boston. Cloney, born Oct. 29, 1911, graduated from Harvard in 1933. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II. The funeral will be held Monday at the Holy Family Church in Duxbury, Mass. # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the Contact person listed at the top of the text of this message. To be removed from this mailing list or to notify us of a change in your e-mail address, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: USATF Release: Collins named Athlete of the Week
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 21, 2002 Collins named Athlete of the Week INDIANAPOLIS - Michelle Collins has been named USA Track Field's Athlete of the Week following her winning 200-meter performance last weekend at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va. Known more for her prowess in the 400 meters, Collins ran a blistering 22.85 seconds in Blacksburg, the fastest women's 200m time in the world this year. Collins, the runner-up in the 400 meters at last year's USA Outdoor Championships, ended the 2002 season ranked #5 in the world and #2 in the U.S by Track Field News at 400 meters. Anna Norgren Mahon also had an impressive, world-leading performance, throwing 22.27 meters/73 feet, 0.75 inches in the weight throw in Boston. Other world-leading performances by Americans included Demetria Washington's 53.40 in the 400 meters and Melissa Morrison's 8.07 seconds performance in the 60m hurdles, both at Bl.acksburg World-leading performances by American men included Derek Miles' clearance of 5.80m/19 feet, 25 inches at the Pole Vault Summit in Reno, Robert Parham's 20.91 in the 200 meters at Fayetteville, Ark., Jerome Young's 47.38 at 400 meters in Houston, Dwight Phillips' leap of 8.02m/26-3.75 in the long jump at Flagstaff, Ariz., and John McEwen's heave of 22.20m/72-10 in the 35lb. weight throw in Seattle. In Masters competition at the Husky Indoor Preview on Saturday, Tony Young of Redmond, Wash., set a pending American masters record in the mile with his time of 4:08.60 at the University of Washington. The previous record of 4:11.00 was set by Bill Steward in January 1983. Young, 40, broke the U.S. masters record for the outdoor mile last June in 4:09.61. Nadine O'Connor broke the Women's 60-64 indoor pole vault record three times last Saturday, with pending marks. She first cleared 2.60m/8 feet, 6.25 inches, breaking the old record by 10 centimeters. She then cleared 2.70m/8-10.25 and 2.80/9-2.25 on consecutive jumps. Now in its third year, USATF's Athlete of the Week program is designed to recognize outstanding performers at all levels of the sport. USATF names a new honoree each week and features the athlete on the USATF Web site. Selections are based on top performances and results from the previous week. 2003 USATF Athlete of the Week Winners: January 7, J-Mee Samuels; January 14, Kevin Toth; January 21, Michelle Collins. BEST U.S. INDOOR MARKS FOR WEEK ENDING JAN. 19, 2003 MEN 55 meters: 6.14 John Capel (adidas) Gainesville - 1/18 60m: 6.58 Tim Harden (Nike) Flagstaff - 1/18 200m: 20.91Robert Parham (LSU) Fayetteville - 1/18 (World leader) 400m: 47.38 Jerome Young (Unattached) Houston - 1/18 (World leader) 46.39 Ja'Warren Hooker, (Asics) Seattle - 1/18 (oversized track) 800m: 1:49.70 Jesse O'Connell (Georgetown) Blacksburg - 1/18 Mile: 3:59.53 (ot) Jason Lunn (Nike) Seattle - 1/18 (World leader; oversized track) 3000m: 8:13.90 Rob Myers (Ohio State) Champaign - 1/18 8:04.42 (ot) Nolan Swanson (Asics) Seattle - 1/18 3000RW: 12:35.54 Adam Staier (Mansfield) Boston - 1/19 60H: 7.50 Allen Johnson (Unattached) Blacksburg - 1/18 High jump: 2.22/7-3.25 Charles Austin (So High) Gainesville - 1/18 Pole vault: 5.80/19-0.25WL Derek Miles - Reno - 1/18 Long jump: 8.02/26-3.75WL Dwight Phillips (Nike) Flagstaff - 1/18 Triple jump: 16.54/54-3.25 Kenta Bell (Unattached) Flagstaff - 1/18 Shot put: 19.45/63-9.75 Dan Taylor (Ohio State) Champaign - 1/18 35 pound Weight throw: 22.20/72-10WL John McEwen (Nike) Seattle - 1/18 Heptathlon: 5206 Pat Pyle (Unattached) Manhattan - 1/18 WOMEN 55m: 6.82 Lauryn Williams (Miami) Gainesville - 1/18 60m: 7.33 Sadonna Thornton (HSI) Houston - 1/18 200m: 22.85 Michelle Collins, (GWill) Blacksburg - 1/18 (World leader) 400m: 53.40 Demetria Washington (South Carolina) Blacksburg - 1/18 600m: 1:30.96 Hazel Clark (Nike) Blacksburg - 1/18 800m: 2:06.86 Treniere Clement (Georgetown) Blacksburg - 1/18 2:03.88 (ot) Chantee Earl, Nike Farm Team Seattle - 1/18 Mile: 4:39.73 Tiffany McWilliams (Miss St.) Fayetteville - 1/18 3000m: 9:24.77 Christin Wurth (Arkans) at Fayetteville - 1/18 3000RW: 12:57.52 Michelle Rohl (Moving Comfort) Boston - 1/19 60H: 8.07 Melissa Morrison (Unattached) Blacksburg - 1/18 (World leader) High jump: 1.87/6-1.5 Ifoma Jones (Unattached) Houston - 1/18 Pole vault: 4.46/14-7.5 Stacy Dragila (Nike) Reno - 1/18 Long jump: 6.33/20-9.25 Ola Sesay (Unattached) Blacksburg - 1/18 Triple Jump: 13.77/45-2.25 Yuliana Perez (AztecTrack) Flagstaff - 1/18 Shot put: 17.27/56-8 Rebekah Green (Kansas State) Manhattan - 1/18 20 pound Weight throw: 22.27/73-0.75 Anna Mahon (SoBe) Boston - 1/19 (World leader) # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the Contact person listed
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I'm still getting the headlines too, but have you tried clicking on them? Do they go anywhere? Mine did not. I get a message saying page not found. Lee I still have my yahoo home page setup to get track headlines on My Yahoo page. And it works. The latest is from two days ago, but that's not unusual. So I'm not sure where it as been removed from. - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: tf extinct Lee Nichols wrote: Well, we have now ceased to even be listed under other sports at Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com). They have no track coverage at all. I had my My Yahoo! page (which is my home page) set up to include track headlines in my news headlines section, but now the link no longer works (even though tf is still listed in the set-up options). I wrote to them and requested that track coverage be returned. Well, you can still get track news through Yahoo-UK http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/athletics/index.html Man, I always thought the other sports designation was embarrassing. Now we just don't exist. At least that's only in the US... I actually noticed the same thing the other day looking at CBS Sportsline - the only track news to be found was coverage of the 2000 Olympics. Phil -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
Re: t-and-f: tf extinct
Lee - You are correct - I'm not sure what's going on - Ed - Original Message - From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: tf extinct I'm still getting the headlines too, but have you tried clicking on them? Do they go anywhere? Mine did not. I get a message saying page not found. Lee I still have my yahoo home page setup to get track headlines on My Yahoo page. And it works. The latest is from two days ago, but that's not unusual. So I'm not sure where it as been removed from. - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: tf extinct Lee Nichols wrote: Well, we have now ceased to even be listed under other sports at Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com). They have no track coverage at all. I had my My Yahoo! page (which is my home page) set up to include track headlines in my news headlines section, but now the link no longer works (even though tf is still listed in the set-up options). I wrote to them and requested that track coverage be returned. Well, you can still get track news through Yahoo-UK http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/athletics/index.html Man, I always thought the other sports designation was embarrassing. Now we just don't exist. At least that's only in the US... I actually noticed the same thing the other day looking at CBS Sportsline - the only track news to be found was coverage of the 2000 Olympics. Phil -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
