Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
There are also places with someone operating shop from their truck.

They would travel on assigned times through valleys and stop in from of each 
house.

They would sell (at very slight markup) products, allowing people to travel 
just 50m-200m
from their house rather than getting kilometres to shop in the village center.

In both cases I would be dubious about mapping their presence as it is 
extremely short
(and mapping such selling location in front of every single house in valleys 
would
be quite silly and misleading, I think)


Nov 7, 2022, 22:58 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

> Another version of sort of a street-vendor that I was wondering about is 
> mobile food vans.
>
> They drive into a site (building site, warehouse complex etc) at morning tea 
> time, blow their horn, stay for 15-20 minutes, then leave & come back at 
> lunch time.
>
> Are they a street vendor?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 05:57, Volker Schmidt <> vosc...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>> Just to make the list complete:
>> Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open 
>> air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls.
>> Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't 
>> find one).
>> If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to map 
>> stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities.  
>> I do part of my shopping in such markets, and I go to specific stalls for 
>> specific goods.
>>
>> Il giorno lun 7 nov 2022 alle ore 17:03 Joseph Eisenberg <>> 
>> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> > ha scritto:
>>
>>> I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature.
>>>
>>> This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where 
>>> shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions.
>>>
>>> In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never cold, 
>>> so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not very 
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage which 
>>> stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards it is 
>>> similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night, making it 
>>> poorly visible except during opening hours.
>>>
>>> But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands on 
>>> a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells 
>>> newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind 
>>> of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better 
>>> to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead 
>>> uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead?
>>>
>>> In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call street 
>>> vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like amenity=fast_food - 
>>> and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen indoors, with 
>>> customers eating outside under a canopy.
>>>
>>> Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants which 
>>> are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they are 
>>> small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching 
>>> them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented 
>>> private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and 
>>> water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So 
>>> while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own 
>>> engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more 
>>> permanent.
>>>
>>> Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of property 
>>> tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but building=no 
>>> is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is not a 
>>> building. 
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no
>>>
>>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM >>> map...@t-online.de>>>  <>>> 
>>> map...@t-online.de>>> > wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,


  


 I  propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street 
 vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.





 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors





 Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.


  


 Cheers,


  


 Freetz


  




 
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Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Nov 7, 2022, 23:05 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

>
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 20:03, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" 
>> fitting there?
>>
>
> That one's easily covered by definition, as in the original marine-rescue 
> proposal:
>
> "the base areas or buildings of groups, sometimes Government operated, but 
> also frequently volunteer only, dedicated to the rescue of vessels / sailors 
> in distress, usually in Open or Coastal waters, but also possibly in inland 
> waters. They may also be involved in rescue operations on coastal cliffs, mud 
> flats etc."
>
Having tag name that clearly excludes freshwater water rescue and changing it
in description is highly confusing and I would prefer to avoid it if at all 
possible.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Nov 7, 2022, 23:43 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:57, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to map 
>> stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities.
>>
>
>
> I mapped some of them with shop tags, e.g. shop=butcher shop=greengrocer 
> shop=florist shop=seafood
>
I mapped some of similar shop=greengrocer (assigned space on tables) with
shop=greengrocer street_vendor=yes

Outside their operating hours you will just see empty tables with roofs over 
them

See 
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.0577089,19.9489765,3a,34.3y,256.07h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn2XHi-4s_3Wj04dLfs4MJg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6723283136#map=19/50.05763/19.94947 


(I wanted to map each seller with constant presence with their name and exact
location, and exact opening hours, but I had no time for that. 
For now it kind of approximates situation but at leat gives approximate info

nearby famous food truck is better mapped:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2910306864#map=19/50.05859/19.94949 


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kie%C5%82baski+z+Ro%C5%BCna+Pod+Hal%C4%85+Targow%C4%85/@50.0579891,19.9487817,19z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x47165b15ba6d6e31:0xa3f63eac8bf35f1d!2sMarket+Hall!8m2!3d50.0579727!4d19.9486499!3m4!1s0x47165b15c9b031b7:0x4e4bb61683d84a0a!8m2!3d50.0584563!4d19.9485406?hl=en
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer



sent from a phone

> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:57, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to map 
> stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities. 


I mapped some of them with shop tags, e.g. shop=butcher shop=greengrocer 
shop=florist shop=seafood
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Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:07, Tom Pfeifer  wrote:

>
> Not really.  emergency=lifeboat_station  implies the presence of a boat.
> Not all water rescue
> related infrastructure has a boat, and not all is located directly at the
> coast line or river bank.
> "marine" implies salt water.
>

Yes, marine-rescue / lifeboat-station does imply the use of a boat, as they
are primarily involved in "the saving of life at sea" (borrowing from at
least one motto). Safety / rescue of swimmers at a beach or similar
location, is usually the responsibilty of lifeguards, although both groups
can, & do, cross-over on occasion.

Maybe emergency=water_rescue ?
>

Again, that seems closer to a lifeguard

 Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 20:03, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine"
> fitting there?
>

That one's easily covered by definition, as in the original marine-rescue
proposal:

"the base areas or buildings of groups, sometimes Government operated, but
also frequently volunteer only, dedicated to the rescue of vessels /
sailors in distress, usually in Open or Coastal waters, but also possibly
in inland waters. They may also be involved in rescue operations on coastal
cliffs, mud flats etc."

Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-07 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 07.11.2022 10:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

> Favoring emergency=marine_rescue seems sensible to me
> 
> 
> What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" 
> fitting there?

Not really.  emergency=lifeboat_station  implies the presence of a boat. Not 
all water rescue
related infrastructure has a boat, and not all is located directly at the coast 
line or river bank.
"marine" implies salt water.

Maybe emergency=water_rescue ?

Having a boat, a diving department, or being located at the shore can all be 
expressed in sub-tags.

tom

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Another version of sort of a street-vendor that I was wondering about is
mobile food vans.

They drive into a site (building site, warehouse complex etc) at morning
tea time, blow their horn, stay for 15-20 minutes, then leave & come back
at lunch time.

Are they a street vendor?

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 05:57, Volker Schmidt  wrote:

> Just to make the list complete:
> Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open
> air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls.
> Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't
> find one).
> If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to
> map stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities.
> I do part of my shopping in such markets, and I go to specific stalls for
> specific goods.
>
> Il giorno lun 7 nov 2022 alle ore 17:03 Joseph Eisenberg <
> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature.
>>
>> This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where
>> shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions.
>>
>> In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never
>> cold, so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not
>> very necessary.
>>
>> In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage
>> which stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards
>> it is similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night,
>> making it poorly visible except during opening hours.
>>
>> But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands
>> on a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells
>> newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind
>> of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better
>> to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead
>> uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead?
>>
>> In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call
>> street vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like
>> amenity=fast_food - and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen
>> indoors, with customers eating outside under a canopy.
>>
>> Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants
>> which are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they
>> are small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching
>> them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented
>> private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and
>> water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So
>> while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own
>> engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more
>> permanent.
>>
>> Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of
>> property tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but
>> building=no is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is
>> not a building.
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no
>>
>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM map...@t-online.de 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street
>>> vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Freetz
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
Just to make the list complete:
Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open
air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls.
Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't
find one).
If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to
map stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities.
I do part of my shopping in such markets, and I go to specific stalls for
specific goods.

Il giorno lun 7 nov 2022 alle ore 17:03 Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature.
>
> This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where
> shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions.
>
> In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never
> cold, so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not
> very necessary.
>
> In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage which
> stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards it is
> similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night, making it
> poorly visible except during opening hours.
>
> But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands on
> a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells
> newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind
> of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better
> to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead
> uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead?
>
> In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call
> street vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like
> amenity=fast_food - and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen
> indoors, with customers eating outside under a canopy.
>
> Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants which
> are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they are
> small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching
> them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented
> private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and
> water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So
> while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own
> engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more
> permanent.
>
> Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of property
> tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but building=no
> is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is not a
> building.
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM map...@t-online.de 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street
>> vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
>>
>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Freetz
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature.

This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where
shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions.

In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never cold,
so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not very
necessary.

In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage which
stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards it is
similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night, making it
poorly visible except during opening hours.

But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands on
a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells
newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind
of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better
to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead
uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead?

In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call street
vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like amenity=fast_food -
and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen indoors, with
customers eating outside under a canopy.

Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants which
are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they are
small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching
them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented
private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and
water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So
while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own
engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more
permanent.

Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of property
tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but building=no
is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is not a
building.
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no

- Joseph Eisenberg



On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM map...@t-online.de 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street vendors
> with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Freetz
>
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Marc_marc

Le 07.11.22 à 11:24, Illia Marchenko a écrit :

(ii) made values of vending=* similar to values if the shop=*.


a vending machine may sell parking_tickets -> vending=parking_tickets
shop=parking_tickets seem very strange.



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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street parking revision

2022-11-07 Thread Alex

Hey all,

over the past few weeks, a group of mappers has been working on a 
proposal to improve the mapping of parking lanes and parking spaces 
along streets. Considerations and discussions about this have already 
arisen in the past among street parking mappers, and now a proposal has 
been prepared.


The goal of this proposal is to deprecate and replace the parking:lane=* 
and parking:condition=* schema for mapping street parking spaces. The 
existing schema has some weaknesses and is unnecessarily complicated and 
therefore unattractive for many mappers. Above all, in many ways it 
differs from today's OSM conventions. The proposed new schema is 
intended to be easier and more logical to apply. The new schema follows 
established OSM conventions more closely. It harmonises tagging of 
parking spaces mapped on the centerline as an attribute of a street with 
parking spaces mapped as a separate feature. It also reflects aspects of 
a data migration process.


For details, see the proposal: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/street_parking_revision
It is quite extensive, as it covers and reforms all aspects of the 
previous schema and closes some further gaps.


Best regards
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - archaeological_site

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Oct 24, 2022, 11:12 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 23 Oct 2022, at 22:15, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> personally it seems to me that it has chance of being a good idea
>>
>
>
> which one, deprecating site_type or ignoring the „rejection“ of the voting?
>

deprecating site_type has chance of being a good idea
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
if street_vendor / vending would mirror shop values rather
than trying to duplicate shop categorisation, just with different values
then it would be much less problematic.

(I still would have major problems with it but it would get better)

Nov 7, 2022, 11:24 by illiamarchenk...@gmail.com:

> As alternative, I would suggest use either
> (i) street_vendor=* with values similar to values of the shop=*, for example 
> amenity=street_vendor & street_vendor=snack; or
> (ii) made values of vending=* similar to values if the shop=*.  
>
> пн, 7 нояб. 2022 г., 13:01 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> >:
>
>> My main problem is that this proposals wants to create vending=* equivalent
>> for every single shop value, with values that are in general different.
>>
>> That alone seems to be not worth all benefits that this proposal can bring.
>>
>> Nov 7, 2022, 06:28 by >> map...@t-online.de>> :
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> I >>> propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street 
>>> vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> Freetz
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Illia Marchenko
As alternative, I would suggest use either
(i) street_vendor=* with values similar to values of the shop=*, for
example amenity=street_vendor & street_vendor=snack; or
(ii) made values of vending=* similar to values if the shop=*.

пн, 7 нояб. 2022 г., 13:01 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

> My main problem is that this proposals wants to create vending=* equivalent
> for every single shop value, with values that are in general different.
>
> That alone seems to be not worth all benefits that this proposal can bring.
>
> Nov 7, 2022, 06:28 by map...@t-online.de:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street vendors
> with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
>
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Freetz
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Nov 7, 2022, 00:27 by jm...@gmx.com:

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> On 11/6/2022 6:18 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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>> I definitely agree that it should be emergency=, ratherthan 
>> amenity=. I must also admit to a slight personalpreference for 
>> =marine_rescue :-), but the vast majority ofusage is in the UK & 
>> Western Europe, where =lifeboatseems to be the most popular, so 
>> I'm happy to go along withthat.
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>> I'll see if there's any other comments before starting afull RFC
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> "Lifeboat" is an ambiguous term  -- it even has a disambiguation  page on 
> Wikipedia  which lists > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboat_(shipboard)>  
> ahead of > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboat_(rescue)>  .
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> Favoring emergency=marine_rescue seems sensible to me
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What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" fitting 
there?

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

2022-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
My main problem is that this proposals wants to create vending=* equivalent
for every single shop value, with values that are in general different.

That alone seems to be not worth all benefits that this proposal can bring.

Nov 7, 2022, 06:28 by map...@t-online.de:

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> I > propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street vendors 
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
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> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
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> Freetz
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