[Tagging] How to tag a way with several conditional access restrictions

2018-07-30 Thread Paul Burton
A local fishing lake has a parking area for all users, then a gravel
service road that leads from the parking area to the lake shore. Signage
on the service road indicates that the road is for use by:

* Vehicular access for launching boats only (explicitly stating that the
boat-carrying vehicle must be returned to the main parking area and the
user(s) must walk back to the lake)

* Vehicular access by disabled users (who are then presumably allowed to
park their vehicles near the lake shore for the duration of their visit)

* Pedestrian access for all other users

The wiki goes into some detail about conditional access tag values, but
given the specific nature of this situation, I'm unsure how to proceed.
Any advice is welcome.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag a way with several conditional access restrictions

2018-07-30 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Hi Paul

This is not perfect, but it is how I would tag that service road:

vehicle = delivery
disabled = yes
foot = yes
description = "Vehicular access for launching boats only. Vehicles
must be returned to the main parking area."

Maybe someone else has a better idea.

Note that the wiki states that wheelchair=* should be used instead of
disabled=*. However, I think this is wrong: wheelchair=* gives
information whether something is suitable for wheelchair users, while
disabled=* gives information about its legal access.

Cheers

Markus

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 15:53, Paul Burton  wrote:
>
> A local fishing lake has a parking area for all users, then a gravel
> service road that leads from the parking area to the lake shore. Signage
> on the service road indicates that the road is for use by:
>
> * Vehicular access for launching boats only (explicitly stating that the
> boat-carrying vehicle must be returned to the main parking area and the
> user(s) must walk back to the lake)
>
> * Vehicular access by disabled users (who are then presumably allowed to
> park their vehicles near the lake shore for the duration of their visit)
>
> * Pedestrian access for all other users
>
> The wiki goes into some detail about conditional access tag values, but
> given the specific nature of this situation, I'm unsure how to proceed.
> Any advice is welcome.
>
> --
> Paul Burton
> p...@paul-burton.com
> https://paul-burton.com/keys
>
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag a way with several conditional access restrictions

2018-07-30 Thread Paul Burton
On 07/30/2018 03:48 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
> This is not perfect, but it is how I would tag that service road:
>
> vehicle = delivery
Yes, I saw "access=delivery", but it seemed like a stretch when most
people think something else when they see that term. Still, it seems to
fit somewhat for this purpose. If there is a consensus on this, I'll go
with it.
> disabled = yes
> foot = yes
> description = "Vehicular access for launching boats only. Vehicles
> must be returned to the main parking area."
I agree with this description, although I may clarify "Motor vehicle
access ..."
> Note that the wiki states that wheelchair=* should be used instead of
> disabled=*. However, I think this is wrong: wheelchair=* gives
> information whether something is suitable for wheelchair users, while
> disabled=* gives information about its legal access.
I concur. This instance is a good example: the terrain is not suitable
for a "normal" wheelchair (i.e. without special wheels and tires). In
addition, presumably (legally speaking), anyone with an official placard
could park there, regardless of whether they use a wheelchair or not.
Again, I'll see if a consensus develops.

Thanks for your input.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag a way with several conditional access restrictions

2018-07-30 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:48:36 +0200
SelfishSeahorse  wrote:

> Note that the wiki states that wheelchair=* should be used instead of
> disabled=*. However, I think this is wrong: wheelchair=* gives
> information whether something is suitable for wheelchair users, while
> disabled=* gives information about its legal access.

"disabled=" has a clear parallel to the "capacity:disabled=" tag used
with parking lots, which is another point in favor of it.

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Mark

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