Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Marc Gemis]

but oneway:bicycle=no is understood. I would simply add that as well.
So a router can use that for navigation(but it will not tell you on which
side of the road you have to drive because that is hidden in the other tags
you mention)

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:10 PM Volker Schmidt  wrote:

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> Maybe:
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> highway=residential
> footway:left=lane
> footway:left:bicycle=designated
> footway:left:segregated=no
> footway:left:oneway:bicycle=yes
> footway:left:width=1.5
> footway:right=lane
> footway:right:bicycle=designated
> footway:right:segregated=no
> footway:right:oneway:bicycle=-1
> footway:right:width=1.5
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Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 18. Sep 2019, at 15:05, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
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> What In addition I need to express that the lanes are oneway for bicycles in 
> opposite directions.


they aren’t, bikes will have to drive on the right in both directions, opposite 
directions would mean they have to drive on the left



> In addition, but that is an Italian speciality, the shared foot-cycleway is 
> legally a foot-way on which bicycles can circulate, but pedestrians have 
> precedence.


it’s similar in Germany, if segregated=no a cyclist must take care of 
pedestrians and be able to stop anytime, even if this requires to not go faster 
than walking speed, while pedestrians can (legally) rely on cyclists taking 
care of them, and can use any part of the shared space.

Cheers Martin 




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Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Volker Schmidt]

Thanks Tobias

The full tagging here would be:
>
> oneway = yes
> oneway:bicycle = no  <- oneway not for bicyclists
> sidewalk = both  <- there is a sidewalk on both sides
> cycleway = track...which is also a cycleway and
> cycleway:segregated = no...not segregated
>
> Because the unsegregated foot+cycleway is really slim, it'd be useful to
> also record the width of the sidewalk/cycleway in
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> cycleway:width = X
>

Close, but
"cycleway=track" is not correct, as the foot-cycle-"way" in question is a
lane, similar to "cycleway=lane", but the resulting tagging does no imply
that pedestrians an cyclists have to share these lanes. What In addition I
need to express that the lanes are oneway for bicycles in opposite
directions.
In addition, but that is an Italian speciality, the shared foot-cycleway is
legally a foot-way on which bicycles can circulate, but pedestrians have
precedence.

Maybe:

highway=residential
footway:left=lane
footway:left:bicycle=designated
footway:left:segregated=no
footway:left:oneway:bicycle=yes
footway:left:width=1.5
footway:right=lane
footway:right:bicycle=designated
footway:right:segregated=no
footway:right:oneway:bicycle=-1
footway:right:width=1.5

But this will certainly not be digested by any router or renderer








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Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Tobias Zwick]

Hi Volker 

The full tagging here would be:

oneway = yes 
oneway:bicycle = no  <- oneway not for bicyclists
sidewalk = both  <- there is a sidewalk on both sides
cycleway = track...which is also a cycleway and
cycleway:segregated = no...not segregated 

Because the unsegregated foot+cycleway is really slim, it'd be useful to also 
record the width of the sidewalk/cycleway in

cycleway:width = X

Greetings
Tobias


On 16/09/2019 21:29, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> How to tag a
> oneway street with a combined foot-cycle lanes on either side with oneway 
> restrictions for bicycles.
> To understand my description you need to look at the photo:
> 
> http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ndVXZQlQxoTi_678lWXc9A/photo
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> Thanks in advance
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Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Mateusz Konieczny]

17 Sep 2019, 02:33 by thesw...@gmail.com:

> On 17/9/19 05:29, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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>> How to tag a
>> oneway street with a combined foot-cycle lanes on either side with oneway
>> restrictions for bicycles.
>> To understand my description you need to look at the photo:
>>
>> http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ndVXZQlQxoTi_678lWXc9A/photo
>>
>
> The easiest way is:
> cycleway=lane
> oneway:bicycle=no
>
> See:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
>
> The various different options for tagging the same thing were discussed in 
> March:
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-March/043894.html 
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See also
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_in_oneway_motor_car_roads
 



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Re: [Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Andrew Davidson]

On 17/9/19 05:29, Volker Schmidt wrote:

How to tag a
oneway street with a combined foot-cycle lanes on either side with oneway
restrictions for bicycles.
To understand my description you need to look at the photo:

http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ndVXZQlQxoTi_678lWXc9A/photo



The easiest way is:
cycleway=lane
oneway:bicycle=no

See:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

The various different options for tagging the same thing were discussed 
in March:


https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-March/043894.html


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[Tagging] oneway street with two combined foot-cycle lanes

[Volker Schmidt]

How to tag a
oneway street with a combined foot-cycle lanes on either side with oneway
restrictions for bicycles.
To understand my description you need to look at the photo:

http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ndVXZQlQxoTi_678lWXc9A/photo


Thanks in advance

Volker



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