Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users
Hey Robin, If the elevator has its own node/way (which is the way it should be), you can already use: - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:door:width - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:depth - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:est_width - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:entrance (for elevators that _are_ entrances) In my opinion it's not a good idea to add these attributes to other objects than the elevator itself, as this kind of "extrinsic" data tends to gets out of sync with reality and is difficult to maintain. So if the elevator itself is missing, first add the elevator, then add the attributes mentioned above. Here is an example of tagging of this sort: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1979754258 Could you explain what you mean exactly by "elevator_button:wheelchair"? In A11yJSON, we have properties that define the min/max reachable grip height you need to control an elevator, as there often is a duplicated control panel at a lower height. Is this what you mean? In this case, I'd try to survey these measurements, as they are more objective than assuming what a wheelchair user can or can't do. All the best, Sebastian -- Sebastian Felix Zappe (he/him) CTO SOZIALHELDEN e.V., Berlin, Germany OpenPGP_0xE9F6161AA0F8F0BD.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users
Le 13.05.23 à 17:41, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : *_Highway=elevator_* ** We want to add some extra tags that are important for wheelchair users: * elevator:door_width elevator:door:width on an object other that the elevator it-self but this way of informing glued environment on the POI will quickly show its limits: a POI in a building with an entrance with a small lift accessible to PRM and another classic entrance, it will not make sense to enter the width of a lift that is absent on the main entrance same problem with the many public buildings that have an accessible entrance with an adapted button, but no accessible button yet on the lifts leading to the floors * elevator:width * elevator:depth ok for the tag same as in the other thread : you may also just draw an area * elevator_button:wheelchair (yes, no) we already have button_operated key [1] so it should be : button_operated:wheelchair (if put on an highway=elevator) elevator:button_operated:wheelchair (if put on another object) take care of elevator without a button :) button_operated=no imply that button_operated:wheelchair is useless/unneeded/wrong [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Abutton_operated Regards, Marc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users
Hi again,
Similar to my comment on your proposal for "parking_space:width=*"; if the
object that you are adding the tag to is the elevator ("highway=elevator" in
your Subject Line), surely all you need is ""door_width=*", "width=*",
"length=*" and "wheelchair_button="? You do not need to repeat the
"elevator" in the tag, if the object that you are tagging is the elevator.
Or am I missing something?
Regards,Peter
Peter Neale
t: 01908 309666
m: 07968 341930
On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:51:05 BST, ro...@onwheelsapp.com
wrote:
Highway=elevator
We want to add some extra tags that are important for wheelchair users:
- elevator:door_width
- elevator:width
- elevator:depth
- elevator_button:wheelchair (yes, no)
Only marking an elevator as wheelchair=yes is not enough for a lot of
wheelchair users.
Met vriendelijke groeten
Robin Julien
Operationeel verantwoordelijke, architect
ro...@onwheelsapp.com tel: 0497 65 48 50
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