Re: [Tails-dev] [Tails-ux] RFC: Phrasing for warning users when running in a non-free VM

2015-08-10 Thread Austin English
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:42 AM, sajolida sajol...@pimienta.org wrote:
 Austin English:
 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:42 AM, sajolida sajol...@pimienta.org wrote:
 Austin English:
 On Aug 8, 2015 11:30 AM, intrigeri intrig...@boum.org wrote:

 Consider using a
 href='https://www.virtualbox.org/'VirtualBox/a instead.

 I'd rather move this one to the doc page about virtualization (linked
 below), which will give us more room to warn agains the non-free
 extension pack that's featured quite prominently on their download
 page. That would be the second modification needed there, to make it
 consistent with what Austin English is implementing.

 Thoughts?

 Ok, so adjusting my last proposal we could:

 1. Change the title into Warning: non-free virtual machine detected!

 2. Change the body into:

 Both the host operating system and the virtualization software are
 able to monitor what you are doing in Tails.

 Additionally, only free software, both as operating system and
 virtualization software, can be trustworthy.
 a
 href='file:///usr/share/doc/tails/website/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization.en.html#security'Learn
 more.../a

 That's better, no?

 That phrasing sounds awkward to me. How about:
 Both the host operating system and the virtualization software are
 able to monitor what you are doing in Tails.

 Only free software can be considered trustworthy, for both the host
 operating system and the virtualization software.

 a 
 href='file:///usr/share/doc/tails/website/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization.en.html#security'Learn
 more.../a

 Still not perfect, but it's an awkward sentence to try to phrase.

 Fine with me, especially if you're a native speaker. I don't know if
 that's your case, but personally I'm not :)

Yes, I am :). It sounds more natural to me than your suggestion,
though there's definitely room for improvement on it, as it sounds a
bit awkward.

Updated patch attached:
https://labs.riseup.net/code/attachments/download/884/updated-warning.txt
-- 
-Austin
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Re: [Tails-dev] [Tails-ux] RFC: Phrasing for warning users when running in a non-free VM

2015-08-10 Thread sajolida
Austin English:
 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:42 AM, sajolida sajol...@pimienta.org wrote:
 Austin English:
 On Aug 8, 2015 11:30 AM, intrigeri intrig...@boum.org wrote:

 Consider using a
 href='https://www.virtualbox.org/'VirtualBox/a instead.

 I'd rather move this one to the doc page about virtualization (linked
 below), which will give us more room to warn agains the non-free
 extension pack that's featured quite prominently on their download
 page. That would be the second modification needed there, to make it
 consistent with what Austin English is implementing.

 Thoughts?

 Ok, so adjusting my last proposal we could:

 1. Change the title into Warning: non-free virtual machine detected!

 2. Change the body into:

 Both the host operating system and the virtualization software are
 able to monitor what you are doing in Tails.

 Additionally, only free software, both as operating system and
 virtualization software, can be trustworthy.
 a
 href='file:///usr/share/doc/tails/website/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization.en.html#security'Learn
 more.../a

 That's better, no?
 
 That phrasing sounds awkward to me. How about:
 Both the host operating system and the virtualization software are
 able to monitor what you are doing in Tails.
 
 Only free software can be considered trustworthy, for both the host
 operating system and the virtualization software.
 
 a 
 href='file:///usr/share/doc/tails/website/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization.en.html#security'Learn
 more.../a
 
 Still not perfect, but it's an awkward sentence to try to phrase.

Fine with me, especially if you're a native speaker. I don't know if
that's your case, but personally I'm not :)
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