Re: Problem when on websites

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Hi Peter,
I just took another look at the address bar because, as I said, I just 
Alt-D, Control-C, F6. What I realized is that the cursor is always at 
the end of the line. Once I realized that arrowing back always works.
Then I went to my GMail account and logged in. Arrowing worked there as 
well.

Try the following in IE.
Alt-T Tools.
O Internet options.
Shift-Tab up to the General tab and arrow over to Advanced.
Tab once to Accelerated graphics.
Arrow down once to Use software rendering instead of GPU rendering and 
press space to check it and turn it on if it's off.

Tab down to the Apply button and press space.
Close and reopen IE.
Hth,
Tom



On 2/5/2018 3:38 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

Hello Tom,

Thanks for your advice, but I am still curious as to why the ability to 
read with the arrow keys has suddenly been removed. The same thing has 
happened with edit boxes on web pages, such as when I am trying to get 
to my gmail account on the web. To make sure I have typed my user name  
correctly, I have to type it in NotePad and then copy and paste it into 
the web page edit box.





-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 1:04 PM
To: peter Chin via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Problem when on websites

Peter,
:I've always done the same, just with Alt-D to go to the address bar and
then F6 to return to the page, and it works fine. I can't read the text
immediately with the arrows because it's all selected by default. So I
just press Control-C to copy it, which is the only reason I'm going
there anyway. But if I arrow back and forth a bit it will start reading
after IE catches up and deselects the URL.
For what it's worth, this is on Windows 10.
Hth,
Tom


On 2/3/2018 1:43 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

Hello all,

I hope someone can help me with a strange problem I have when on the 
internet. I am using Window-Eyes on a Windows8.1 machine and I 
normally use IE to get to web pages. I used to be able to get the url 
of the page I am on by pressing F6 when I can read the url with my 
arrow keys and copy it to my clipboard. About a month ago, this 
suddenly changed. Now when I press F6 I can no longer read the url 
with my arrow keys to copy it to my clipboard, though I can read it 
with  my mouse when I route mouse to cursor.  How can I regain this 
capability?


I hope what I have described makes sense and I hope someone can help 
me out.


Thanks in advance.


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Re: Problems navigating websites

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello Rod,

I tried to download this file from your Dropbox but the download could not 
be completed. Could you please put it in you Dropbox again?


Thanks.
-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: Problems navigating websites

Hi Janet,

I understand, and yet it is common knowledge in the AT community that the 
ESR version (extended service release) of Firefox is accessible.

You can download it from my DropBox here:

http://bit.ly/2nEnoor

Some people recommend uninstalling your current version of Firefox before 
installing it, and yet I have yet to have a problem (and I have done it 
several times) installing it right over the current version.

It will automatically make your bookmarks and settings available.

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Janet Brandly via Talk

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 3:29 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Janet Brandly
Subject: Re: Problems navigating websites

Hi Rod,
Sorry for the lack of clarity. I'm using Windows 10 with Chrome as my
browser. It was my understanding that Firefox wasn't accessible with WE?
Janet

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 1:04 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: Problems navigating websites

Hi Janet,

I'm not sure what W10 Chrhome is and by the Chrome app I assume you mean the
Chrome browser?
I do all browsing with Firefox 52.6 ESR and the current Window-Eyes and am
having no problems.

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 2:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Problems navigating websites

Hello everyone,

I’m having a lot of trouble nagivating websites with W10, Chrome, and the
latest WE with the Chrome app. I’ll start reading something, and WE will
just stop reading or it becomes very slow-nearly nonresponsive. Does anyone
out there have any suggestions of things to try or change to improve this?
perhaps I’d be better off with another screen reader? I’d really rather not
use JAWS as I’m not doing anything very complicated any more and wouldn’t
use most of its features.

Thanks for any thoughts,

Janet
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Re: file explorer in win 10

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello Orlando,

Thanks for your suggestion. I managed to get to "group by" but I couldn't 
determine which item to uncheck in order to stop the grouping.


-Original Message- 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 5:41 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Subject: Re: file explorer in win 10

At 01:50 AM 2/3/2018, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

I have managed to arrange my folders under  my  user name in a list view as
I like it. However, I still hear extraneous speech such as "a-h", "i-p",
"q-z". How do I stop this?


These are groupings in File Explorer's list view. They can be turned
off by tabbing away from the list view until you hear Group By. Press
enter or spacebar to toggle group sorting.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
and Pedagogue

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Re: Problem when on websites

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello all,

Thanks so much for your suggestions. I will try them later on. I just wonder 
why the arrow keys suddenly didn't work when they were working fine before.


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 5:39 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: Problem when on websites

In IE, you can also press f4.

On 2/4/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Peter,
:I've always done the same, just with Alt-D to go to the address bar and
then F6 to return to the page, and it works fine. I can't read the text
immediately with the arrows because it's all selected by default. So I
just press Control-C to copy it, which is the only reason I'm going
there anyway. But if I arrow back and forth a bit it will start reading
after IE catches up and deselects the URL.
For what it's worth, this is on Windows 10.
Hth,
Tom


On 2/3/2018 1:43 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

Hello all,

I hope someone can help me with a strange problem I have when on the
internet. I am using Window-Eyes on a Windows8.1 machine and I
normally use IE to get to web pages. I used to be able to get the url
of the page I am on by pressing F6 when I can read the url with my
arrow keys and copy it to my clipboard. About a month ago, this
suddenly changed. Now when I press F6 I can no longer read the url
with my arrow keys to copy it to my clipboard, though I can read it
with  my mouse when I route mouse to cursor.  How can I regain this
capability?

I hope what I have described makes sense and I hope someone can help
me out.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: file explorer in win 10

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello Carol,

Thanks for your suggestion. I tried it but still hear things like A-H, I-P, 
and so on. It seems to be some sort of grouping of the wiles according to 
alphabeticl order.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:36 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: file explorer in win 10

Hi Peter,

I don't know that this will help, but if I get that problem, I do a
shift-tab and then it seems to work properly.  If you listen carefully,
you will probably hear something like "name closed" which means you are
not directly in the list of files and folders.  A shift-tab will put you
in the correct place for arrowing up and down through files.

Carol


On 2/3/2018 1:50 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

Hello Rod and All,

I have managed to arrange my folders under  my  user name in a list view 
as

I like it. However, I still hear extraneous speech such as "a-h", "i-p",
"q-z". How do I stop this?

My machine has Windows 8.1 which I believe is very similar to Windows 10.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: file explorer in win 10

Hi Butch,

I assume you have not, as yet, configured your system to display all 
folders

in list view or detailed view rather than what is set by default on a new
installation, namely, icons, and I can't remember whether they are small 
or

medium or large.
Anyway, regardless how they are set, you will neeed to configure this by
opening any folder on your system, set it up the way you like it, and then
make it global.
This is done by opening any folder on your system, in the View tab, opened
with Alt-V, L, and then you'll will get a drop-down with the display 
options

arranged, in typical confusing Windows 10 fashion, as a grid of options.
Arrowing left and right, up and down, find detailed view, and press Enter.
Okay, after doing this, you'll want to return to the View tab by pressing
Alt-V, and then tabbing through other options for customizing your View,
namely, whether you want your files and folders sorted ascending or
descending, etc, by name, date, and the latter is what I prefer, in 
contrast

to the Windows default on all systems, but it's your choice.
Again, once you pick each setting, you press Enter to activate it, and 
this

often closes the tab;
If not, however, you can always Escape out.
Finally, you can set the settings to apply to your whole system by finding
the traditional Folder options dialog which you'll recall from Windows 7.
This is also in the View tab and the shortcut is Alt-V, Y, and press 
Enter.
As in the old days, once the Folder options dialog is open, Ctrl-tab 
brings
the View tab to focus, and you can tab to the Apply button to globalize 
your

settings.
As a rule, everything that was in Windows 7 in present in Windows 10;
They're just in the ribbons of the application you're using, including
Explorer.
I hope this was helpful.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows

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Behalf

Of BK via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 8:06 PM
To: gw micro
Cc: BK
Subject: file explorer in win 10

Hello, using win 10 and Jaws, when I open a folder in file explorer, the
highlight is in the middle of the list instead of at the top. Then as I
am arrowing through the list, the highlight will jump around on me. I
have never experienced anything like this. Is there a setting I need to
change? Is there a tutorial on how to use this win 10 file explorer. All
help is appreciated.

Butch

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Re: Problem when on websites

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello Tom,

Thanks for your advice, but I am still curious as to why the ability to read 
with the arrow keys has suddenly been removed. The same thing has happened 
with edit boxes on web pages, such as when I am trying to get to my gmail 
account on the web. To make sure I have typed my user name  correctly, I 
have to type it in NotePad and then copy and paste it into the web page edit 
box.





-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 1:04 PM
To: peter Chin via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Problem when on websites

Peter,
:I've always done the same, just with Alt-D to go to the address bar and
then F6 to return to the page, and it works fine. I can't read the text
immediately with the arrows because it's all selected by default. So I
just press Control-C to copy it, which is the only reason I'm going
there anyway. But if I arrow back and forth a bit it will start reading
after IE catches up and deselects the URL.
For what it's worth, this is on Windows 10.
Hth,
Tom


On 2/3/2018 1:43 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote:

Hello all,

I hope someone can help me with a strange problem I have when on the 
internet. I am using Window-Eyes on a Windows8.1 machine and I normally 
use IE to get to web pages. I used to be able to get the url of the page I 
am on by pressing F6 when I can read the url with my arrow keys and copy 
it to my clipboard. About a month ago, this suddenly changed. Now when I 
press F6 I can no longer read the url with my arrow keys to copy it to my 
clipboard, though I can read it with  my mouse when I route mouse to 
cursor.  How can I regain this capability?


I hope what I have described makes sense and I hope someone can help me 
out.


Thanks in advance.


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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I still wish they would do what Olympus does with their talking 
recorders: the first time you fire them up they speak and ask if you 
want speech or not. It's simple and one button press for sighted folks 
to say no.

Tom


On 2/5/2018 5:55 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:

Tom,

That is great, I'm glad it all worked.

Best regards,

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Steve Jacobson via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

Thanks, Steve.
I got an 8. So the home button worked and I just restored from my iCloud
backup. So I'm all set.
Regards,
Tom


On 2/5/2018 1:33 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:

Tom,

My daughter bought an iPhone 10, and she says that pressing the power

button

three times on that unit should bring up VoiceOver.  While there is no

HOME

button, there is a physical location on the screen that serves as a HOME
button that will give some feedback when your finger is on it.  On other
devices, one presses the HOME button three times.

This process is configurable in settings, though.  One can change what

three

presses of the HOME button or the POWER button on an iPhone 10 can do.  I
suppose it is possible that this could be configured differently by
different carriers.  Also, it is not easy to press the power button three
times in rapid succession through some of the cases.  If you can't get it

to

work with the case on, try it with the case removed so that you have more
direct access to the physical power button.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:44 PM
To: michael fridey via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

Thanks Michael. Good to know.


On 2/4/2018 9:51 PM, michael fridey via Talk wrote:

Just press the home button 5 times very fast and wait for voice over to
start talking.

cheers Michael.


On 5/02/2018 1:35 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out
of the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to
get it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
Thanks,
Tom
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RE: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Tom,

That is great, I'm glad it all worked.

Best regards,

Steve

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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

Thanks, Steve.
I got an 8. So the home button worked and I just restored from my iCloud 
backup. So I'm all set.
Regards,
Tom


On 2/5/2018 1:33 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> My daughter bought an iPhone 10, and she says that pressing the power
button
> three times on that unit should bring up VoiceOver.  While there is no
HOME
> button, there is a physical location on the screen that serves as a HOME
> button that will give some feedback when your finger is on it.  On other
> devices, one presses the HOME button three times.
> 
> This process is configurable in settings, though.  One can change what
three
> presses of the HOME button or the POWER button on an iPhone 10 can do.  I
> suppose it is possible that this could be configured differently by
> different carriers.  Also, it is not easy to press the power button three
> times in rapid succession through some of the cases.  If you can't get it
to
> work with the case on, try it with the case removed so that you have more
> direct access to the physical power button.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:44 PM
> To: michael fridey via Talk 
> Cc: Tom Kingston 
> Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
> 
> Thanks Michael. Good to know.
> 
> 
> On 2/4/2018 9:51 PM, michael fridey via Talk wrote:
>> Just press the home button 5 times very fast and wait for voice over to
>> start talking.
>>
>> cheers Michael.
>>
>>
>> On 5/02/2018 1:35 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>> I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out
>>> of the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to
>>> get it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[michael fridey via Talk]

That may not work when you first set it up cos siri will need wifi or data.

cheers Michael.


On 6/02/2018 1:32 AM, Moe Adl via Talk wrote:

Hold down the home botten until you hear a dink , then say "turn on voice
over"that will turn the voice over on and yu  can set the speaking rate at
what ever rate you like by going to setting, general, then accessibility,
select that, then go to speech and set the speaking rate and other item that
you like.
I  hope that help you start.

Moe. then go to

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Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 2:26 AM
To: net bat via Talk 
Cc: michael fridey 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 3 years ago
i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.


On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on.
then you can go through the setup yourself.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Thanks, Steve.
I got an 8. So the home button worked and I just restored from my iCloud 
backup. So I'm all set.

Regards,
Tom


On 2/5/2018 1:33 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:

Tom,

My daughter bought an iPhone 10, and she says that pressing the power button
three times on that unit should bring up VoiceOver.  While there is no HOME
button, there is a physical location on the screen that serves as a HOME
button that will give some feedback when your finger is on it.  On other
devices, one presses the HOME button three times.

This process is configurable in settings, though.  One can change what three
presses of the HOME button or the POWER button on an iPhone 10 can do.  I
suppose it is possible that this could be configured differently by
different carriers.  Also, it is not easy to press the power button three
times in rapid succession through some of the cases.  If you can't get it to
work with the case on, try it with the case removed so that you have more
direct access to the physical power button.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:44 PM
To: michael fridey via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

Thanks Michael. Good to know.


On 2/4/2018 9:51 PM, michael fridey via Talk wrote:

Just press the home button 5 times very fast and wait for voice over to
start talking.

cheers Michael.


On 5/02/2018 1:35 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out
of the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to
get it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
Thanks,
Tom
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RE: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Tom,

My daughter bought an iPhone 10, and she says that pressing the power button
three times on that unit should bring up VoiceOver.  While there is no HOME
button, there is a physical location on the screen that serves as a HOME
button that will give some feedback when your finger is on it.  On other
devices, one presses the HOME button three times.  

This process is configurable in settings, though.  One can change what three
presses of the HOME button or the POWER button on an iPhone 10 can do.  I
suppose it is possible that this could be configured differently by
different carriers.  Also, it is not easy to press the power button three
times in rapid succession through some of the cases.  If you can't get it to
work with the case on, try it with the case removed so that you have more
direct access to the physical power button.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
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Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:44 PM
To: michael fridey via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

Thanks Michael. Good to know.


On 2/4/2018 9:51 PM, michael fridey via Talk wrote:
> Just press the home button 5 times very fast and wait for voice over to 
> start talking.
> 
> cheers Michael.
> 
> 
> On 5/02/2018 1:35 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>> I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out 
>> of the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to 
>> get it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
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RE: GMail with Outlook 2010

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Steve,

Thanks very much for your help about what to look for.
After carefully perusing one of the cautionary messages which google had sent, 
they had provided a direct link to a page where I could enable the use of 
less-secure apps.
After doing this, I was able to add my Gmail account with no problems.

Thank you so very much,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 12:02 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: GMail with Outlook 2010

Rod,

I don't know the specific problem you are having, but here are two possible
stumbling blocks.  You may need to set the security for your account to
allow the use of legacy applications.  I believe it is in the security part
of settings, and I don't remember the specific description.  You will be
warned against this, but I have not had issues with doing this.  Google
tends to warn you against doing anything other than using Google's tools.

Second, If you have Google set up to sending you notifications of activity,
check the email account they go to with another program or on the web
interface to be sure your new connection is not triggering such a warning.
It is possible you will need to follow a link where you can specify that a
given access was known to you.  It is possible that your setup is fine but
that the test message that Outlook is sending is being rejected so Outlook
thinks the setup failed.  If you don't get email warnings, go to the web
site and check for notifications.  I can't be much more specific because I
have had to do it rarely, but you will find it given what I have seen of
your abilities over the years.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 9:54 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: GMail with Outlook 2010

Hi everyone,

Is there a trick to configuring a Gmail account in Outlook 2010?
Here are the settings I've found on the google site, and they don't seem to
work for me:

Note: To avoid locking yourself out of your account, make sure you don't
exceed 2500 MB per day for IMAP downloads and 500 MB per day for IMAP
uploads. If you're setting up a single IMAP account on multiple computers,
try taking a break between each setup.
Set up IMAP
Step 1: Check that IMAP is turned on
On your computer, open
Gmail
.
In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
Click Settings.
Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
In the "IMAP Access" section, select Enable IMAP.
Click Save Changes.
Step 2: Change SMTP & other settings in your email client
Use the table below to update your client with the correct information. For
help updating your settings, search your email client's Help Center for
instructions on setting up IMAP.
Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server
imap.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Port: 993
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
smtp.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
Requires Authentication: Yes
Port for SSL: 465
Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User name, or Email address
Your full email address
Password.


Thanks,

Rod

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RE: GMail with Outlook 2010

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Rod,

I don't know the specific problem you are having, but here are two possible
stumbling blocks.  You may need to set the security for your account to
allow the use of legacy applications.  I believe it is in the security part
of settings, and I don't remember the specific description.  You will be
warned against this, but I have not had issues with doing this.  Google
tends to warn you against doing anything other than using Google's tools.

Second, If you have Google set up to sending you notifications of activity,
check the email account they go to with another program or on the web
interface to be sure your new connection is not triggering such a warning.
It is possible you will need to follow a link where you can specify that a
given access was known to you.  It is possible that your setup is fine but
that the test message that Outlook is sending is being rejected so Outlook
thinks the setup failed.  If you don't get email warnings, go to the web
site and check for notifications.  I can't be much more specific because I
have had to do it rarely, but you will find it given what I have seen of
your abilities over the years.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 9:54 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: GMail with Outlook 2010

Hi everyone,

Is there a trick to configuring a Gmail account in Outlook 2010?
Here are the settings I've found on the google site, and they don't seem to
work for me:

Note: To avoid locking yourself out of your account, make sure you don't
exceed 2500 MB per day for IMAP downloads and 500 MB per day for IMAP
uploads. If you're setting up a single IMAP account on multiple computers,
try taking a break between each setup.
Set up IMAP
Step 1: Check that IMAP is turned on
On your computer, open
Gmail
.
In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
Click Settings.
Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
In the "IMAP Access" section, select Enable IMAP.
Click Save Changes.
Step 2: Change SMTP & other settings in your email client
Use the table below to update your client with the correct information. For
help updating your settings, search your email client's Help Center for
instructions on setting up IMAP.
Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server
imap.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Port: 993
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
smtp.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
Requires Authentication: Yes
Port for SSL: 465
Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User name, or Email address
Your full email address
Password.


Thanks,

Rod

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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[ratshtron via Talk]

hmmm, if the device has service over there isp's network, siri should work.


Legend has it that on Monday 2/5/2018 08:38 AM, John Covici via Talk said:


That will not work when voiceover is off, so clicking the home button
3 times should work.

On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:32:37 -0500,
Moe Adl via Talk wrote:
>
> Hold down the home botten until you hear a dink , then say "turn on voice
> over"that will turn the voice over on and yu  can set the speaking rate at
> what ever rate you like by going to setting, general, then accessibility,
> select that, then go to speech and set the speaking rate and 
other item that

> you like.
> I  hope that help you start.
>
> Moe. then go to
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madl=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 2:26 AM
> To: net bat via Talk 
> Cc: michael fridey 
> Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
>
> it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 
3 years ago

> i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.
>
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> On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> > tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on.
> > then you can go through the setup yourself.
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> > -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
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> > Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
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> > I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
> > the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
> > it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[ratshtron via Talk]

well, if its an Iphone X there isn't a home key (button) to press, lol!


Legend has it that on Monday 2/5/2018 03:25 AM, michael fridey via Talk said:

it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 3 
years ago i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.



On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on. 
then you can go through the setup yourself.


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
Thanks,
Tom
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GMail with Outlook 2010

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi everyone,

Is there a trick to configuring a Gmail account in Outlook 2010?
Here are the settings I've found on the google site, and they don't seem to 
work for me:

Note: To avoid locking yourself out of your account, make sure you don't exceed 
2500 MB per day for IMAP downloads and 500 MB per day for IMAP uploads. If 
you're setting up a single IMAP account on multiple computers, try taking a 
break between each setup.
Set up IMAP
Step 1: Check that IMAP is turned on
On your computer, open
Gmail
.
In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
Click Settings.
Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
In the "IMAP Access" section, select Enable IMAP.
Click Save Changes.
Step 2: Change SMTP & other settings in your email client
Use the table below to update your client with the correct information. For 
help updating your settings, search your email client's Help Center for 
instructions on setting up IMAP.
Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server
imap.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Port: 993
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server
smtp.gmail.com
Requires SSL: Yes
Requires TLS: Yes (if available)
Requires Authentication: Yes
Port for SSL: 465
Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User name, or Email address
Your full email address
Password.


Thanks,

Rod

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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[John Covici via Talk]

That will not work when voiceover is off, so clicking the home button
3 times should work.

On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:32:37 -0500,
Moe Adl via Talk wrote:
> 
> Hold down the home botten until you hear a dink , then say "turn on voice
> over"that will turn the voice over on and yu  can set the speaking rate at
> what ever rate you like by going to setting, general, then accessibility,
> select that, then go to speech and set the speaking rate and other item that
> you like.
> I  hope that help you start.
> 
> Moe. then go to   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madl=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 2:26 AM
> To: net bat via Talk 
> Cc: michael fridey 
> Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
> 
> it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 3 years ago
> i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.
> 
> 
> On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> > tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on. 
> > then you can go through the setup yourself.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Cc: Tom Kingston
> > Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
> >
> > I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
> > the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
> > it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
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RE: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[Moe Adl via Talk]

Hold down the home botten until you hear a dink , then say "turn on voice
over"that will turn the voice over on and yu  can set the speaking rate at
what ever rate you like by going to setting, general, then accessibility,
select that, then go to speech and set the speaking rate and other item that
you like.
I  hope that help you start.

Moe. then go to   

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madl=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 2:26 AM
To: net bat via Talk 
Cc: michael fridey 
Subject: Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 3 years ago
i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.


On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on. 
> then you can go through the setup yourself.
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tom Kingston
> Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
>
> I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
> the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
> it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
> Thanks,
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Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

[michael fridey via Talk]

it could be 3 times then i know when i got my i phone 5 c nearly 3 years 
ago i thought i pressed home 5 times but iit might have been 3 times.



On 5/02/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on. 
then you can go through the setup yourself.


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?

I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of
the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get
it talking or do I have to wait for eyes?
Thanks,
Tom
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