Re: Does Jaws have . . . .

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

No, there is no such a feature for the notification area [alt-n].
Jaws speaks out when tekst is in this area, but will not generate a
sound as Window-Eyes does even when you are in an other program.

Marten

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:41:52 -0400 Tom Kingston via Talk 
 wrote:

> And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE command.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
> > I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there
> > are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation.
> > One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such
> > as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help
> > windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items.
> > On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function
> > keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into
> > keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will
> > briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes.
> > The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn.
> > Read current line is insert-up-arrow.
> > Read to end is insert-down-arrow.
> > There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained
> > in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> > http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> > -Original Message- From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM
> > To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> > Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . .
> >
> > Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been
> >
> >
> >
> > Read page elements: insert e;
> >
> >
> >
> > Speak summary: control shift s;
> >
> >
> >
> > Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks
> > spelling errors and more).
> >
> >
> >
> > I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different
> > names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And
> > lastly, do
> > we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options
> > etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope someone can help.
> >
> >
> >
> > My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to
> > be typing this back in good old Window-eyes!
> >
> >
> >
> > Alison
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Re: Position of folders and files in a list

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Rebecca,

Thanks for this info. Seems to me a sort of bug. But nice to know a workaround.
|I have mine set to show all folders, so there is no problem here.

And mostly I am using Xplorer2, a windows explorer replacement.

Regards, Marten


On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:06:27 -0500 Rebecca Lineberger via Talk 
 wrote:

> In Window-Eyes, as we arrowed down through a list of folders or files, W-E
> would give the position of the selected item in the list:
> 
> 1 of 50, 15 of 50, 40 of 50, etc.
> 
> I also have my verbosity setting in Kurzweil set to give me this information
> as well, just because I was used to having it in W-E.
> 
> In JAWS, by pressing the insert-up arrow keys for "say current line," JAWS
> would give me a position.  The same with insert-tab.  But I found that the
> information was often incorrect. The insert-page down keys would always tell
> me correctly that there were 50 items.  
> 
> There is no "count" option listed in the quick settings menu when in File
> Explorer.
> 
> Presumably W-E and JAWS access information in different ways, so I went
> prowling around looking for a possible solution. IN Documents, I went to the
> file menu, folder options, then to the view tab.  In the tree view of
> settings, there is a checkbox for "show all folders".  Mine was not checked.
> When I checked this, JAWS gets the position right.  I'm using the Fall
> Creator, first 1703 and now 1709.  I can't say what is available in earlier
> versions of Windows.  
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps most people will find the item position of no value, but some
> migrating from W-E might miss it.  Smile.
> 
> This is just my solution and perhaps there is another setting somewhere in
> JAWS that would take care of this.  I'm still learning, so if there is,
> please pass it along.
> 
> Just thought this might be of interest.
> 
> Rebecca
> 
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> you.
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Re: AW: How to get file explorer back

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Larry,

Can you press ctrl-shift-escape when this happend?

I don't know what windows you are using, but:
You have to kill the explorer process, but don't leave the taskmanager,
because you also have to start a new process by typing: explorer

I have made a autohotkey script for myself to do this. In win7 and with
Window-Eyes I had to use this frequently. Now I am with Jaws in win10
and I never have to do this.
If you want I can send you that script.

Regards, Marten

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:12:04 -0600 Larry Higgins via Talk 
 wrote:

> Lucian,
> 
> 
> This is the problem. When there is no file explorer, it is not even 
> possible to get to the desktop, or anything else for  that matter. 
> Without file explorer, it appears that you have Windows, but no way to 
> interface, or interact  with it, At least that is my impression
> 
> . I'm just hoping I am just wrong enough to be able to do enough to be 
> able to issue some kind of command. I guess if I have to power down in 
> order to get back  into commission, then that is just what I must do. It 
> is just kind of scary when you are crippled in your ability to operate 
> your system. It has the feel of disaster too it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2017 12:22 PM, Luciano Ortelli via Talk wrote:
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > In Windows 8.1 and 10, you can try the following:
> >
> > On the desktop go to the Start button, press Application key and search for 
> > Explorer or
> >
> > press the Start button and write  explorer or file explorer  Enter
> >
> > or press the Windows key and write the same, Enter.
> >
> > This could eventually help.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Lucian
> >
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> > Im Auftrag von Larry Higgins via Talk
> > Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 16:13
> > An: Larry Higgins via Talk 
> > Cc: Larry Higgins 
> > Betreff: Re: How to get file explorer back
> >
> > BTW, I did try windows key-e, but no go.
> >
> >
> > On 11/13/2017 8:52 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> >> Listers,
> >>
> >>
> >> This is kind of a stupid situation for one to fine one's self in, but
> >> it can happen so easily I'm afraid.
> >>
> >>
> >> I was trying some shortcuts on my desktop that were linked to
> >> different USB drives, or at least the letters pertaining there too
> >> when a shortcut that didn't lead to a connected drive came up. What
> >> happens when that happens is that you get what appears to be an error
> >> message (it isn't spoken) telling you the drive isn't present, but
> >> when you use the ctrl-shift-t to read the title,  it says File
> >> Explorer. I'm sure that that is all well and good. The problem is that
> >> I cannot find a way to close that box without closing File Explorer.
> >> Problem is, when you do that, you loose not only the dern box, but a
> >> whole lot of access to your PC as well. Heck, you can't even shut down
> >> using alt-F4. You can't even just log out and log back in again.
> >>
> >>
> >> What I wish to know is how to reopen File Explorer without having to
> >> completely power down the machine in order to get things back to normal.
> >>
> >>
> >> I really would like to know how to go about closing that box, so that
> >> such drastic action wouldn't even have to be contemplated .
> >>
> >>
> >> This is one that I've been intending to ask for years, but thank God
> >> the situation doesn't arise all that often.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for any guidance or suggestions,
> >>
> >>
> >> Larry
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Re: AW: How to get file explorer back

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Larry,

You can download Killexplorer from the below link.
When you extract the zip, you will find Kilexplorer with ctrl-alt-x.exe.
Start this program. When it is loaded in memory, you can press
ctrl-alt-x and explorer is killed.

If you want to load it each time your computer is started, you can
create a shortcut to it by using the context key.
Place the shortcut in the Startup folder. A simple way to go to the
startup folder is by pressing win-r and type the following:
shell:startup
Place the shortcut in this folder, not the exe file.

you can download it from:
http://www.p-u.demon.nl/killexplorer.zip

Regards, Marten


On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 14:20:31 -0600 Larry Higgins via Talk 
 wrote:

> Marten, yes, please  send me the script. That is about the
> 
> Only thing I can do when this happens, go to task manager that is. Since 
> this issue might come up sooner than later, I will have an opportunity 
> to try your manual solution, as well as the script. I mean, it isn't 
> hard to forget just what shortcut you used to start your drive .
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Larry
> 
> on 11/13/2017 1:31 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:
> > Larry,
> >
> > Can you press ctrl-shift-escape when this happend?
> >
> > I don't know what windows you are using, but:
> > You have to kill the explorer process, but don't leave the taskmanager,
> > because you also have to start a new process by typing: explorer
> >
> > I have made a autohotkey script for myself to do this. In win7 and with
> > Window-Eyes I had to use this frequently. Now I am with Jaws in win10
> > and I never have to do this.
> > If you want I can send you that script.
> >
> > Regards, Marten
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:12:04 -0600 Larry Higgins via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Lucian,
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the problem. When there is no file explorer, it is not even
> >> possible to get to the desktop, or anything else for  that matter.
> >> Without file explorer, it appears that you have Windows, but no way to
> >> interface, or interact  with it, At least that is my impression
> >>
> >> . I'm just hoping I am just wrong enough to be able to do enough to be
> >> able to issue some kind of command. I guess if I have to power down in
> >> order to get back  into commission, then that is just what I must do. It
> >> is just kind of scary when you are crippled in your ability to operate
> >> your system. It has the feel of disaster too it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/13/2017 12:22 PM, Luciano Ortelli via Talk wrote:
> >>> Hi Larry,
> >>>
> >>> In Windows 8.1 and 10, you can try the following:
> >>>
> >>> On the desktop go to the Start button, press Application key and search 
> >>> for Explorer or
> >>>
> >>> press the Start button and write  explorer or file explorer  Enter
> >>>
> >>> or press the Windows key and write the same, Enter.
> >>>
> >>> This could eventually help.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Lucian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>> Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> >>> Im Auftrag von Larry Higgins via Talk
> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 16:13
> >>> An: Larry Higgins via Talk 
> >>> Cc: Larry Higgins 
> >>> Betreff: Re: How to get file explorer back
> >>>
> >>> BTW, I did try windows key-e, but no go.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/13/2017 8:52 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> >>>> Listers,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is kind of a stupid situation for one to fine one's self in, but
> >>>> it can happen so easily I'm afraid.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I was trying some shortcuts on my desktop that were linked to
> >>>> different USB drives, or at least the letters pertaining there too
> >>>> when a shortcut that didn't lead to a connected drive came up. What
> >>>> happens when that happens is that you get what appears to be an error
> >>>> message (it isn't spoken) telling you the drive isn't present, but
> >>>> when you use the ctrl-shift-t to read the title,  it says File
> >>>&g

Re: BECKY!: forwarding emails

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

martha,

If your problem is still not solved, you can try the following:

Go to Tools, General.
Go to the tabcontrol Message view.
Press shift-tab until the option:
Forward as HTML
If it is unchecked, check this option.

Regards, Marten




On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:44:45 -0600 Martha via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I am using BECKY! version 2.0 on a Windows PC.
> 
> I have been forwarding emails and most of the time the text in the body
> is forwarded successfully.
> Some of the emails that I am forwarding are contain a string of emails. 
> These emails show only the headers and signatures of the emails in the
> string or thread. The body of the emails is blank.
> 
> Is there a setting that I need to change?  I'm wondering if this is due
> to the size of the email.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> Martha
> 
> 
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Re: top bottom index

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Russ,

Jaws does have  a sort of top-bottom alert function. Not as nice as in
Window-Eyes.
Press ins-v and type: top
arrow down, you land on:
top and bottom edge alert 
here you ca choose for silent and alert with sound.
It will not work in the windows explorer pane, but in a real listview it
works, but a bit slower then the function in Window-Eyes.

Regards, Marten


On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 06:24:08 -0700 Russ Kiehne via Talk 
 wrote:

> I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes?
> 
> -Original Message- From: BK via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: BK
> Subject: Re: top bottom index
> 
> Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws
> has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting?
> 
> Butch
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Re: JAWS question

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Kevin,

Yes, that is possible.

The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
%appdata%
Here you find a folder freedom scientific
In this folder you will find settings about jaws. 
In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
folder to the same location on the other computer.
I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so
jaws will not lock files.

Regards, Marten


On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk 
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> Hi:
> 
> My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another?
> Kevin Huber
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Re: becky email

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Butch,

Sometimes my Becky will do the same. Delete is not working.
At that moment I can still use shift-del.

After restarting Becky, the delete key is working again.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:35:42 -0500 BK via Talk  
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> Hello, I'm using becky email and now all of a sudden in one of my mail
> boxes, I can't delete any messages in the list. I am wondering if I
> accidently changed a setting that prevents me from deleting messages. If
> anyone knows where such a setting is, or what the problem might be, I
> would appreciate your help.
> 
> Butch

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Re: becky email

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Mike,

I think you spoke to me in the below message, but  am not Martin.

I don't know why you cannot post to groups.
If these groups belong to groups.io, you can write to supp...@groups.io
and tell them your problem.

Regards, Marten




On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 07:14:08 -0500 Mike Rogers via Talk 
 wrote:

> Martin,
> Using Jaws 19 and windows 10.  I have lost the ability to send messages to 
> groups and can't figure how to re-assemble them in Becky.  any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:53:59 +0100
> Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Butch,
> > 
> > Sometimes my Becky will do the same. Delete is not working.
> > At that moment I can still use shift-del.
> > 
> > After restarting Becky, the delete key is working again.
> > 
> > Regards, Marten
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:35:42 -0500 BK via Talk  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, I'm using becky email and now all of a sudden in one of my mail
> > > boxes, I can't delete any messages in the list. I am wondering if I
> > > accidently changed a setting that prevents me from deleting messages. If
> > > anyone knows where such a setting is, or what the problem might be, I
> > > would appreciate your help.
> > > 
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> > 
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Re: Becky problems

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Dave,

Check the following.
Tools, general setup and the Editor  tab.
You can jbest shift-tab because the option is allmost the last one.
Search for:
Allways focus to the editor when composing
Turn this option off.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 11 May 2017 05:55:54 -0700 Dave via Talk  
wrote:

> Hello again,
> 
> I am guilty of changing some Setting in Becky, and now when I want to
> write an Email, Window Eyes does not focus upon the Field where the
> Email Address is typed, nor does it focus upon the Subject, CC, or BC
> Fields, not without some effort.
> 
> This is not a Window Eyes problem, but a Grumpy Dave problem.  I was
> making some changes to Becky, in hopes of getting something else to work
> better, and in the process, I've altered the wrong thing and I am where
> I am now.  
> 
> Do any of you know what I need to do in Becky to get the focus back
> where it needs to be?  
> 
> Thanks for any response,
> 
> Grumpy Dave
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave 
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Re: Jaws equivalent replacement function? anyone?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Thomas,

For as far as I know ther is no key to repead the last spoken progress
update in jaws. But there is a speech history you can use. This will
list all is spoken.

Press ins-space and then the h of history.
You can arrow through all what is spoken.

Regards, Marten


On Mon, 22 May 2017 23:00:14 +0800 "Thomas N. Chan via Talk" 
 wrote:

> Dear Joseph,
> I really appreciate the info given.
> The only pitty about the whole migration  is, there’s some function which 
> window-eyes have, jaws either don’t or treat the info differently.
> Like the progress  info, it will read automatically but I can’t repeat that 
> again till it repeat itself. I hope I got this correctly.
> I am yet to find the way to spell the word or the currently focus caret or 
> character. You know, insert – numpad 4 or numpad 6 for window-eyes.
> Its only been less than a week, I am yet to get some of the right info 
> despitI did use jaws in my school previously.
>  
>  
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, 22 May 2017 2:48 PM
> To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes DiscussionList 
> ; 'Carol and Roger' 
> Subject: RE: Jaws equivalent replacement function? anyone?
>  
> Hi:
>  
> I don’t think there is a way to check the status of progress bars directly as 
> there is in Window-eyes.
>  
> As for tool-tips, The only hotkey I can find that might do the trick is 
> CTRL+Shift+f11.  Here is the help text ontthat one.
>  
> 
> View System Tray ToolTips. Control + Shift + F11
> 
> Opens a Virtual Viewer window displaying the items currently in the System 
> Tray.
>  
> Now, here’s the good news.  There is a way to select a whole block of text 
> without continuously arrowing down through the text.
>  
> First, locate the place in the Web page you want to start at.  Then, press 
> CTRL+Windows+K to set a temporary place marker.  Then, you can use 
> read-to-end or what ever to get to the place you want to stop at.  Press 
> Insert+space, then the letter m.  This will select all the text between the 
> temporary place marker and where you are in the Web page.  Then, press CTRL+C 
> to copy to the clipboard.  
>  
> I think some formatting is preserved, but, not sure how much.
>  
> Hope this helps.
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail   for Windows 
> 10
>  
> From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk  
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 7:00 PM
> To: 'Carol and Roger'  ; 'Window-Eyes 
> Discussion List'  
> Subject: Jaws equivalent replacement function? anyone?
>  
> Dear long terms WE users,
> I like or trying to find some sort of jaws similar  function in jaws to
> replace or comparable  with WE. these are the few I am using but so far, or
> don't know any. the Raul tuitorial  didn't mention that as far as I listen
> last night.
>  
> 1. ctrl - insert  -tlast flash and tooltip
> 2. Ctrl - insert b progress and scroll bar
> 3. f8 select content in browse mode
>  
> I know the last one, I can use some sort of traditional selection and copy
> after. But I am used to, when I start  of the documents or page, select it,
> and let read to end do the job while I read the article or review it and end
> selection, paste onto another documents for safe keeping. If I would use the
> traditional one, I need to hold it for a very very long document. I believe
> jaws got some similar in MS Word. Or is that Window-eyes?
>  
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
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Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

There is an sort of top / bottom index indication. I was searching for
the same and I found an option.
In the quick settings menu [ins-v] arrow down and press t until you have
the option:
top and bottom edge alert
with space bar you can toggle between sound and silence. Silence is the
default.

In the quick settings menu, you can also fill in the word: top 
and press arrow down.

Regards, Marten



On Wed, 24 May 2017 06:43:34 -0700 Russ Kiehne via Talk 
 wrote:

> I don't think jaws has the optionn of saying top and bottom when arrowing up 
> and down a file list in windows explorer.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Rod Hutton via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM
> To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> And so you're saying our beloved Window-Eyes developers took pains to allow 
> these unique windows to share their treasures with their devoted users. 
> (sniff)
> We really got burned, didn't we?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: May 23, 2017 3:24 PM
> To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
> 
> I haven't installed JAWS yet. But I assume the problem is that JAWS does
> not possess the elegant code Window-Eyes does to determine the logical
> status bar when there is no actual status bar, which is the case on the
> desktop and in Thunderbird.
> Obviously there's no status bar on the desktop. But in Thunderbird there
> is a window that looks and acts like a status bar, but it is not
> (technically speaking) a true status bar.
> It's a good example of the never-ending uphill battle screen-reader
> developers face. Windows has a specific status bar window that can be
> created and yet it is not uncommon for developers to just tack on
> another standard window that accomplishes the same purpose visually.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 5/23/2017 1:30 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> > Thank you, but that was not the answer.  The window is already
> > maximized.  Ctrl-numpad page down says absolutely nothing.  If I move to
> > my Carol folder, it says 465 items.  If I am on the desktop, it says
> > 5/23/2017.  If I select some random items from a folder, it then says x
> > number of items selected.  It will read how many pages, words and some
> > percentage in Office Word.  It will not read anything from Thunderbird
> > that should represent any type of status information.  I can go back to
> > the main folder list in Thunderbird and get a number of how many unread
> > messages there are for all unread messages, but they are not broken into
> > different accounts.
> >
> > I have finished beating this dead horse, so I am walking off into the
> > sunset, grin!
> >
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> > On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:
> >> Sometimes I find that the status lines only reads correctly when the
> >> window has been maximized.  You might see if that helps in this case.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Talk
> >> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:10 AM
> >> To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >> 
> >> Subject: Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
> >>
> >> If the key is insert-page down, then I never have anything in the status
> >> line except for the file explorer.  I am used to having a status line in
> >> Thunderbird that tells me how many messages there, how many are not read
> >> and in some cases, how many have been deleted.  I have tried using both
> >> the insert-page down on the number pad and the ones on the six-pack.  It
> >> says absolutely nothing.  Oh yes, somethimes, when I am on the desktop,
> >> it will tell me either the date or the time, depending on what mood it
> >> is in, grin.  Thanks for any suggestions.
> >>
> >> Carol
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/22/2017 6:29 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> >>> Yes it's insert plus page down. On a desktop, it's insert plus the
> >>> numpad 3.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Talk
> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:26 PM
> >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> >>> Subject: Fw: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Tom Fairhurst
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:07 PM
> >>> To: talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com
> >>> Subject: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
> >>>
> >>> Is there a JAWS equivalent for reading the status line in a window in
> >>> MS Word or other programs? Reading the top or bottom line doesn’t
> >>> give enough information. If one can’t identify the cursor position,
> >>> using MS Word is al

running applications when pressing alt-tab

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

Is it possible to set Window-Eyes so, that when pressing alt-tab,
nothing is spoken except the name of the application?
It says: running applications, but I don't want to hear that and it
makes it not really quicker.
And sometimes I hear: task switching
Can we mute these texts?

I know: with the exception dictionary or with the extended dictionary
this can be done, but is there a better solution?
I know: other screenreaders will do this too, so maybe it is something
in windows, but a feature request to hide that info.

Regards, Marten 

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Re: All Aps Button And Window-eyes

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hello pastor,

Yes, I have the same. In the startmenu of windows10, WE will not read anything. 
Nvda or Jaws will read all in startmenu, but window-eyes not. Don't know why.
I have reported this to wesupport, but I think they are still infestigate  it. 
I got a mail about my windows of them and if it was 32 or 64 bits. 
I have  a32bits windows myself.

Regards, Marten
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:53:28 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> Window-eyes is not picking up the all aps button in my start menu of Windows 
> 10.
> I contacted the disabilities desk and they said it was there.  Also narator 
> reads the buttons just fine.
> Has anyone else had this issue?
> 
> Pastor Gil
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Re: All Aps Button And Window-eyes

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I have updated from win8, so a re-install should not be necessary, but I have 
done a new install from a downloaded install disk and still no startmenu.

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 10:04:28 -0700 "net bat"  wrote:

> it may depend on which  version of windows you started with.
> if you upgraded from win 7 you have to re install w e 9.2
> if from windows 8 you usually will not have to reinstall w e 9.2
> but you definently need w e 9.2 with windows 10.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:00 AM
> To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: All Aps Button And Window-eyes
> 
> Hello pastor,
> 
> Yes, I have the same. In the startmenu of windows10, WE will not read 
> anything.
> Nvda or Jaws will read all in startmenu, but window-eyes not. Don't know why.
> I have reported this to wesupport, but I think they are still infestigate  
> it. I got a mail about my windows of them and if it was 32 or 64 bits.
> I have  a32bits windows myself.
> 
> Regards, Marten
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:53:28 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > Window-eyes is not picking up the all aps button in my start menu of 
> > Windows > 10.
> > I contacted the disabilities desk and they said it was there.  Also narator 
> > > reads the buttons just fine.
> > Has anyone else had this issue?
> >
> > Pastor Gil
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slower in becky mail

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

With WE9.2 I have seen slowness in becky mail. This is in win10 32bit and win7 
32bit.

When the computer starts, I start Becky mail and go to the list of messages.
There is a small delay when pressing arrow down to go to the next message.
Restarting Becky mail does not matter.

When restarting WE by pressing ctrl-alt-w, the small delay is away and arrowing 
in the listview is fast as allways.

Can anyone reproduce this?

Regards, Marten


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Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

I hope, we don't get a discussion about mailinglists on the talk-list.
But freelist is not really a good idea. All the messages, the whole archive, is 
also visible for google and other search engines.

And freelist can also unsubscribe people...

Last time, more and more lists are moved to groups.io. Groups.io is a more 
accessible site to setup your list and to manage. Better than yahoogroups or 
freelists. I have used them too as a list owner and groups.io is better.

Regards, Marten


On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:19:39 -0400 Rick Thomas via Talk 
 wrote:

> Hi Again: Take a look at Free Lists as a e-mail provider.
> Messages get put through almost instantly and they seem never to have any
> problems.
> I don’t know if a company can host a list there or if they have enough
> security but a couple of lists I know use them and those lists are very good
> for the clients.
> You might contact them to see if they can meet your requirements.
> Rick USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:22 PM
> To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and
> the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
> 
> Rick and list,
> We are working with our hosting provider  to try and rectify the situation.
> Chris
> 
> 
> Window-Eyes Product Support
> Ai Squared
> 725 Airport North Office Park
> Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> (802) 362-3612
> www.aisquared.com
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: 'Nick Sarames' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> 
> Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and
> the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
> 
> What are you saying?
> That they are so behind the curve, so sloppy and so inept that they don't
> have time to fix one of the most important parts of a company, the public
> face of the company ie the e-list and their website?
> Is that your stand?
> Rick USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Sarames [mailto:nicksara...@msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:18 PM
> To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and
> the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
> 
> Do you really think, with everything going on, that this should be their
> most important priority?  So it takes a couple of minutes to subscribe
> again, is that really a big deal?  That said, I am one of the lucky ones.
> 
> On 8/28/2015 12:10 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> > Hi: I have not seen any postings from AI Squared about the likely 
> > source
> of
> > their bouncing problem.Perhaps they have not come through to me or 
> > perhaps they are just not interested.
> > If you have heard anything on list let me know. I put some real work 
> > into finding answers for them so would appreciate at least a shout out 
> > about
> what
> > they have found out.
> > I do think there is a answer to this problem and it lies with AI 
> > Squared
> and
> > would like to hear if they are working on it or if they just don't 
> > care or if all the pros I have talked are full of carp.
> > Rick USA
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Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Pastor,

I had the same problem with the startmenu as you had.
Today I have installed win10 again over my old windows. This time I have
choosen  to do a clean install. don't takeover my old settings.

Currently only window-eyes, a password manager and becky mail are
installed, but Window-Eyes is reading the startmenu as aspected.

Regards, marten

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:23:08 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk 
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> Hi,
> I  rolled back to windows 77 32 bit.
> I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes 
> wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on.
> 
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Re: WE and Xplorer2

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Don,

Indead: it seems that when running WE and Xplorer2 and closing Xplorer2,
the dialog is displayed and not when using Nvda for example. 
I am using win10 32bit and WE9.2 at the moment, but have also seen this
in win7 and older versions of WE.

Regards, marten



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> Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine and the latest version of 
> Xplorer2 file manager program.
> When I open Xplorer2 and then close it I get a dialog box stating that Some 
> background operations have not finished and do I want to wait for them with a 
> yes or no button.  This happens 100 percent of the time.  If I first stop WE 
> and then use Xplorer in the same way this dialog box does not come up.  Turn 
> WE back on and the dialog boxes come back.  Have turned off all WE apps and 
> this does not fix it.
> Seems to be some conflict between Xplorer and WE.
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Re: classic shell or start is back

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In WE8.4: Startisback.

Regards, Marten

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:51:43 -0400 Butch K via Talk 
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> Hello, I am running window eyes 8.4. which works better with speech, classic 
> shell or start is back? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Win 10 start & notifications

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Alan,

It does not really help, but I have had the same problem in win10. Window-Eyes 
was not reading the startmenu or the menu when pressing win-x I thought or was 
it win-a?

I did a upgrade from win8 to win10.

My problem was solved after I placed a image of win8 back. 
I upgraded again to win10, but I have choosen now to not take over my 
applications and settings.

Regards, Marten



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> Spoke with AI staff but they could not solve my problem.  Using we9.2 32 home 
> premium and win 10 I cannot read the start menu or the notification list.
> 
> I installed start 10 to replace the win10 start menu with the win7 and this 
> works just fine but still no luck with notifications except if I use the 
> mouse.
> On 9/5/2015 1:50 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> > Someone asked about the hot key for bookmarks in google crome. Did > anyone 
> > give an answer? I too am seeking this info.
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Re: auto hot key scripts

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Neville,

Yes, this is possible.

You can make the autohotkey script an app of window-eyes, so WE will load the 
exe file or ahk file each time the program starts.

In the scriptfile you have to use something like:

winwaitactive, %win%, , 20
sleep, 600
winwaitclose, %win%
exitapp

Regards, Marten





On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 09:14:56 +1000 Neville via Talk 
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> Hi Jim,
> 
> Do you know if it is possible to have an auto hot key script start when an 
> application is launched and then the script removed from memory when the 
> application is closed?  If so, do you know how this can be achieved?
> 
> Thanks
> Neville.
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/09/2015 8:42 PM, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk wrote:
> > Hi, Well I find making auto hot key scripts for starting programs
> > much more reliable than using the windows short cut key system.
> > Another advantage is you can use key combos that are not supported by
> > the typical windows short cut key system.  For example: I have
> > Window-Eyes starting with the short cut of windows+alt+w. Another
> > advantage is I can take this short cut key script and run it on any
> > computer and the short cut key script will work. Hth
> >
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 16,
> > 2015 11:26 AM To: Josh Rivera ; Window-Eyes
> > Discussion List  Subject: RE: stability
> > versus new browse mode
> >
> > Then press windows-r and type wineyes and press enter.
> >
> > If the hot key doesn't work, that will. If it doesn't work then the
> > alt-control-w wouldn't have worked anyway. Chris
> >
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> > -Original Message- From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Josh Rivera via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015
> > 11:19 AM To: 'Kevin Huber' ; 'Window-Eyes
> > Discussion List'  Subject: RE: stability
> > versus new browse mode
> >
> > Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015
> > 9:57 AM To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re:
> > stability versus new browse mode
> >
> > Hi Louis:
> >
> > They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to
> > press control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up
> > again.
> >
> > Kevin Huber On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk
> >  wrote:
> >> Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this
> >> business of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention
> >> ctrl-Alt-w as the touted cure, but no one is saying that you must
> >> first shut Win-Eyes down with CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after
> >> allowing some time for things to take effect, and hopefully hearing
> >> the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the Ctrl-Alt-W thing.
> >> In my experience, though, if you don't hear the descending harp
> >> sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the pressing
> >> of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
> >> restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.
> >> Wish there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that
> >> point.
> >>
> >> Louis Gosselin
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Talk
> >> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint.net@lists.window-eyes.
> >>
> >>
> com]
> >> On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015
> >> 11:08 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: stability versus
> >> new browse mode
> >>
> >> Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing.
> >> I had
> > to
> >> reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't
> >> characterize
> > the
> >> stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this
> >> problem is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.
> >>
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Re: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Aaron,


Interesting, the ocr part.

How does it work? If you scan confidencial material, will it be ocr-ed on your 
local computer or is the ocr done on a remote server of AI squared?

Regards, Marten


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> Virtual View 5.0 now supports exciting new features such as the ability to 
> OCR images from files or the screen, plus virtualizing various document 
> formats, including PDF files. Here are some other features:
> 
> * You can open an image in any format (jpg, bmp, png, tiff, etc.).
> * If you press Alt-Print Screen to capture the active window, 
> Virtual View will automatically OCR it for you.
> * The Virtual View options dialog lets you control image 
> manipulation to increase OCR success.
> * Supports UAC, allowing you to get contents (specifically UIA) 
> from windows that are elevated.
> 
> * Images inside PDF files are prepended with [BEGIN 
> IMAGE] and appended with [END IMAGE].
> * You can choose several different kinds of file formats to 
> virtualize, including:
> 
> * Txt
> 
> * Html
> 
> * Xml
> 
> * Zip
> 
> * And if you have Office installed:
> 
> ?  Docx
> 
> ?  Xlsx
> 
> ?  Pptx
> 
> Imagine a Word document filled with text boxes and word art. That information 
> will show up as plain text when passed through Virtual View. Spreadsheets and 
> PowerPoint presentations are the same way. If you want to quickly skim a 
> PowerPoint presentation without opening PowerPoint, use Virtual View.
> 
> With zip files, Virtual View can open the zip file and get the text of all 
> text files. At the very least, you can get a list of the files in the archive.
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Re: BECKY! - lost my folder view

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

martha,

Press f4 to go to the list with accounts.
 From there, press tab to open the selected account.

Marten

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:32:19 -0600 Martha Reaney via Talk 
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> Hi, folks.
> 
> I am using Windows 10, WE 9.2, and a trial copy of BECKY!
> 
> Today, when I launched BECKY!, I got the usual dialog box, telling me that 
> the trial copy was only good for 30 days.  Pressed enter and got to the next 
> screen.
> 
> I was hearing my email server info, and thought that I needed to use the left 
> arrow to collapse that  "folder" and get to my folder list; inbox, outbox, 
> etc.
> 
> Now I am stuck in a window or screen that says "you can use this area for 
> notes" and when I arrow around all I hear is right and left arrows and dot, 
> dot, dot.
> 
> How do I get back to my list of folders?  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Martha
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app updates and how to see whats new

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

Sometimes apps are updated and I can see which apps, but is there a way to see 
what the changes are?

I have never found this information. Also not on the website. Maybe I am not 
looking in the right place.

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Re: Window-Eyes assistance to someone on another computer.

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

hi Curtis,

Break is the pause key.
Pause/break.

Regards, Marten

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 11:54:56 -0800 Curtis Delzer via Talk 
 wrote:

> I found all ok, now, except one little option.
> I know about "control alt," but what is "Break?" Where is the "break" key?At 
> 03:00 AM 12/3/2015, you wrote:
> >Hi Curtis,
> >
> >Minor correction on the bread crumbs for finding the info in the manual on
> >Window-Eyes Remote Assistance.
> >The actual path is:
> >
> >Window-Eyes Features > Remote Access > Remote Assistance
> >
> >Hth,
> >
> >Rod
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Talk
> >[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> >Of Rod Hutton via Talk
> >Sent: December 3, 2015 5:57 AM
> >To: 'Curtis Delzer' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> >
> >Subject: RE: Window-Eyes assistance to someone on another computer.
> >
> >Hi Curtis,
> >
> >I'm not aware of any tutorial on Remote Assistance using Window-Eyes, but
> >the manual tells you pretty much everything you need to know.
> >So, the bread crumbs to the info in the manual is:
> >Window-Eyes Features > Remote Assistance
> >
> >Once you navigate to this node, simply expand this to find individual items
> >to read in order to set up and use this feature.
> >
> >Hth,
> >
> >Rod
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Talk
> >[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> >Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
> >Sent: December 3, 2015 4:35 AM
> >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> >Subject: Window-Eyes assistance to someone on another computer.
> >
> >Would someone point me to a tutorial or a web broadcast about getting
> >together with someone else running window-eyes, mano a mano? or
> >computer to computer? :)
> >Like jfw and their "tandem" connections.
> >THANKS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Curtis Delzer, H.S.
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Re: question about app get when I hit the g key on my keyboard

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Keith,

Seems that g is sending win-g to the system so appget is is started.

You can eventually redifine the hotkey to shift-win-g or something else.
Go to the window-eyes menu, alt-a for apps-menu and go to appget.
Here the help-menu and hotkey. 

Regards, marten
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> hi, using we 7.5 on a windows xp sp 3 machine.  when I am using a mud client 
> called mush z to play an online game, when I hit the g key, the app get 
> application gets activated.  Any way to turn this auto app get off?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: becky email

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Butch,

Becky shows a sort of a ruler and that is what you are hearing.
A few years ago I had contacted the maker of Becky about this. There is
not really a way to disable this ruler for as far as I know.

The best way is to press ctrl to stop the speech.
With the extended dictionary app you can suppress it a bit, but not all.

Regards, Marten

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> Hello, using Becky, I press control N to compose a new message, and then when 
> I tab to the edit box where you type in the message, it starts counting, 1 2 
> 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0. Is there a way to stop this counting? Please help.
> 
> Butch
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Re: WE 9.3 bug

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Don,

Yes, I have the same  after restarting WE with ctrl-alt-w. Seems if the
we-control panel is open.
But I am using WE9.31 on win7 32bit and not on win10.

Regards, Marten

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 16:52:40 -0600 Don H via Talk  
wrote:

> If for some reason I use control alt w to restart WE WE reloads and acts as 
> if it is reading the WE User interface yet the interface is not open to the 
> point it is on the screen.  I am running WE 9.3 on a windows 10 system and 
> have we showing in the system tray and not on the task bar.
> Anyone else seeing this?
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Apollo II and WE9.3

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I am using the apollo II synthesizer with Window-Eyes.
Since I have updated from WE9.2 to 9.3 my Apollo reacts slower to keys from the 
keyboard.
I have tried to set different settings in devicemanager for the comport the 
Apollo is connected, but no difference. 
I have seen this behavior on win7 32bit and win10 32bit.
I am using an usb to serial cable with FTDI chipset.
An update of the FTDI driver did not help.
With other synthesizers as vocalyser or eloquence no problem. It is as fas as 
normal.

It is now, if each key on the keyboard will have a delay as you can set
in the cursoring menu.

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Re: apps! OFF? or! what?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Curtis,

I have had that my apps where not working. Wen I looked to secutiry in the app 
manager, all apps where disabled, not allowed.
I have set the security to allow all apps and now the apps are working.
You have to turn on Moere option in the app manager to see the security option.

Regards, Marten



On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:45:50 -0800 Curtis Delzer via Talk 
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> Hi, well I did that once with 9.3.1, after re-installing my upgrade to 9.3.1, 
>  and after, initially the apps working, they went away again. This is REALLY 
> FRUSTRATING! "shouting" hey guys! what's happening!
> 
> At 10:05 PM 12/31/2015, Rod Hutton wrote:
> >Hi Curtis,
> >
> >After the upgrade to Window-Eyes 9.3 from 9.2, I found that some of my apps,
> >although their packages were listed in Add/Remove apps, their entries in the
> >Apps menu in the WE control panel were absent, even though their associated
> >programs were running.
> >My solution was to remove the packages in Add/Remove apps, and then use
> >AppGet to re-install them, whereupon everything was fine for me.
> >
> >Hth,
> >
> >Rod
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Talk
> >[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> >Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
> >Sent: December 31, 2015 6:21 PM
> >To: window-eyes discussion list 
> >Subject: apps! OFF? or! what?
> >
> >For some reason, ever since my upgrade to 9.3.1, my APPS status is
> >flakey! Often I find them not working, where all the APPS condition
> >should be toggled on, when in fact though it says "on," they are not
> >either responding to hot key, or time instance, or status of the
> >screen when the progress A
> >
> >APP should be "beeping" at me.
> >I wonder why this is? When I "re-installed," the APPSthat were
> >installed from the new install seemed to work, but now, they are
> >"gone" again, though installed and according to the WE control pannel, "on."
> >Hmm! Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >Curtis Delzer, H.S.
> >San Bernardino, CA
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[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

F8 works for me all the time, but a minor point are blank lines.
Sometimes it will copy to many blank lines. I think these blank lines
are visible on the screen, but WE will not show them to me and I am
copying only plain text, I was hoping it was not copying all the blank
lines. `1 blank line ok, but 3 orso...

Regards, Marten



On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:56:23 -0500 Tom Kingston via Talk 
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> Well, the F8 method works fine here. Although I agree. Having two context 
> dependent selection methods is a bit of a pain for that fraction of a second 
> I have to stop and think which one to use. That is if I don't use the wrong 
> one without thinking because browse mode spans browsers, email messages (only 
> when viewing), and help files. It's certainly not intuitive and I like my 
> screen-reader to be as unobtrusive as possible.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 1/6/2016 2:36 PM, Robin wrote:
> > MyApologies MyBad MyApologies
> >
> > I meant BringingBack
> >
> > Shift+Left/Right Arrow
> > Shift+ CTRL Left/Right Arrow
> > etc.
> >
> > UseOf Shift + ReadingKeys
> >
> > For SomeReason, The NEW F8 SelectionProcess isn't working properly for
> > me or MyStudents ... And, I'm using a Windows7PC with WindowEyes9.3
> > At 11:25 AM 1/6/2016, you wrote:
> >> Control-A, Control-C, and Control-V did not change with the new browse
> >> mode. They still work fine if you want to select all. Anything less
> >> and you have to use the F8 method.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/6/2016 2:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> >>> these keys still work if in a document that does not require browse
> >>> mode.
> >>> but they may not be labeled so w e will not say what is going on.
> >>> if so you will have to open the w e control panel then the dictionaries
> >>> and key label dictionary and define these keys so they will speak
> again.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message- From: Robin via Talk
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:07 AM
> >>> To: Rock West ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >>> Subject: Selection: Selecting Text&Characters
> >>>
> >>> JustCurious
> >>>
> >>> Does AISquared's WindowEyes Team plan to Re-Insert the Oldway of
> >>> Selecting Text-Characters? I'm encountering difficulty Selecting
> >>> using TheNewMethod, which incorporates the UseOf the F8 Key
> >>>
> >>> BringBack
> >>> CTRL+A
> >>> CTRL+C
> >>> CTRL+V
> >>>
> >>> Please ... ThankYou
> >>> At 10:55 AM 1/6/2016, you wrote:
>  Since I installed WE 9.3, I have had some difficulty
>  saving from my word processor to Adobe, although it has always worked
>  without failing. I get a"Microsoft runtime" error message. Generally,
>  the Adobe file saves, but it does not come up automatically, and I
>  occasionally have the same problem opening an Adobe file that was
>  already saved. I am using Adobe Reader XI and downloaded Adobe Acrobat
>  Reader DC,with which I am able to read nothing. What should I do?
> 
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Re: Lastpass

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Thomas,

I am also using Password agent and after reclassing the list to a
listview with ins-r, it is really accessible.

And thanks: I started to use Password agent after a mail from you.

Regards, Marten

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:31:40 +0800 "Thomas N. Chan via Talk" 
 wrote:

> For managing password, I use program call password agent from moonsoftware I
> think its call.
> You can get the lite version which allows you to store max of 25 entry. You
> just need to change certain things, its as accessible as it can be.
> The only problem with it, the list view does not read very well with
> window-eyes.
> 
> I can bring that portable version out easily and yet its encrypted.
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of John Farley via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2016 12:10 AM
> To: 'Mike Rogers' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> 
> Subject: RE: Lastpass
> 
> Thank you Mike.
> 
> I have been advised by a sighted person that this is a very good application
> for managing passwords, as we are all getting more of them these days.
> 
> My reason for asking the list was to see what experience Window-Eyes users
> have with it.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards, John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Rogers [mailto:harpm...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:06 PM
> To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Lastpass
> 
> My son and daughter-in-law use it and love it.  But they are sighted.  We've
> been thinking about it, but I don't know how it works with screenreaders.
> 
> 
> 
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:23:27 -
> John Farley via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > Has anyone on the list used lastpass to manage their various passwords?
> > If so, what success or problems have you encountered with it?
> > 
> > Thank you in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards, John
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no browsemode

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I now have for the second time, that when starting Internet explorer,
the browse mode is not working. Restarting WE or killing does nog help.
Jaws or Nvda will work with internet without any problem.
This is in Internet explorer, Firefox and Chrome.
After a reboot the problem is solved, but it is frustrating.
Are there other people who recognize this?

Regards, Mareten
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Re: strange message

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

hello Aad,

It is frojm the extended dictionary app. Hop the creator of this app
will post a new version soon.

Marten
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:37:10 +0100 aad leeflang via Talk 
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> hello all
> everytime i start up my window-eyes i get a message 
> "important message from spoken phrases: five days of your liscence left.
> i have no clue about it and it pops up since today.
> is it something related to window eyes or not, as it is spoken out when
> window eyes starts and after that it is not on the screen any more.
> i am using window eyes 9.3.1. 
> aad
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Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

Many times, when I go on my win7 32bit computer with IE11 to a site
[www.p-u.demon.nl in this case].
I tab to the link: brltty, press context key and arrow up to:
copy shortcut
Before I have reached this item, WE will crash. Will no longer talk.

This happens allmost every time. 
Yes, I have Internet download manager installeed and this is a addon in
internet explorer, but this program is working well.

And when I use Nvda, there is no problem. 

Marten


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combobox you cannot choose something

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

At work we will use an other program for call management called 
Service now.
It is an webapplication and I thought to also try to look at the
community on internet if I can find more tips.
When registering and after the account is verified, you can login and
you have to fill in some things about who you are.
Here you have a combobox where you can press the first letter to select 
something, but arrows will not work Alt-down/up will also not help. Is
this a new sort of control?
It is difficult, because the community is protected by an password, but
everyone can register.
Does anyone have any idea how to deal with this?
Window-Eyes says:

Industry, select, closed

I also have tried this with Nvda or Jaws, but no screenreader seems to
handle this with IE11 in win7.
I have also tried Chrome. No luck.
The site says that it has to work with firefox, but I  could not find a
login-button with firefox.

Kind regards, Marten
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Re: using Team Viewer with Window-Eyes

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Mike,

I don't have any experience with teamviewer, but if you install nvda, you can 
use the nvdaremote add-on. With nvda you can reotely connect to another nvda pc 
and you have speach. 
see: www.nvdaremote.com

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:11:26 -0400 Mike Bernard via Talk 
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> Is there anyone on the list who has ever used Team Viewer with Window-Eyes?
> If so, how would I go about connecting to another person's computer, so that
> I can provide remote assistance? And once I'm finished, how do I close the
> connection and restore our private machines back to their normal state? A
> friend of mine is having a little trouble using Winamp, but since he doesn't
> have Window-Eyes, I'll have to use Team Viewer to gain access to his
> computer in order to help him fix an issue. If any of you have ever used
> Team Viewer from the (support) side of the desk, meaning you're the one
> connecting to the other person's computer so that you can control their
> computer, will I still have access to Window-Eyes on my own machine even
> while the contents of my friend's computer is in focus on my screen? I'm
> using Windows 8.1. My friend Jay has Windows 7 and he'll be using a laptop,
> while I'll be using a standard pc. Will the slight differences within our
> operating systems and type of computer make any difference as to how Team
> Viewer works? Also, he's using NVDA at his end of things, while I'll of
> course, be using Window-Eyes.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Rochester, NY. 
> 
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Re: using Team Viewer with Window-Eyes

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

I have had this addon working.
If you follow the example of using the remote plugin at nvdaremote.com. it will 
work.

Regards, Marten
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 10:46:24 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Boy the documentation for the nvdaremote is quite sparse and confusing
> to me.  I would need to understand a lot better how it works before using
> such a thing.
> 
> Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I don't have any experience with teamviewer, but if you install nvda, you 
> > can use the nvdaremote add-on. With nvda you can reotely connect to another 
> > nvda pc and you have speach. 
> > see: www.nvdaremote.com
> > 
> > Regards, Marten
> > 
> > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:11:26 -0400 Mike Bernard via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > Is there anyone on the list who has ever used Team Viewer with 
> > > Window-Eyes?
> > > If so, how would I go about connecting to another person's computer, so 
> > > that
> > > I can provide remote assistance? And once I'm finished, how do I close the
> > > connection and restore our private machines back to their normal state? A
> > > friend of mine is having a little trouble using Winamp, but since he 
> > > doesn't
> > > have Window-Eyes, I'll have to use Team Viewer to gain access to his
> > > computer in order to help him fix an issue. If any of you have ever used
> > > Team Viewer from the (support) side of the desk, meaning you're the one
> > > connecting to the other person's computer so that you can control their
> > > computer, will I still have access to Window-Eyes on my own machine even
> > > while the contents of my friend's computer is in focus on my screen? I'm
> > > using Windows 8.1. My friend Jay has Windows 7 and he'll be using a 
> > > laptop,
> > > while I'll be using a standard pc. Will the slight differences within our
> > > operating systems and type of computer make any difference as to how Team
> > > Viewer works? Also, he's using NVDA at his end of things, while I'll of
> > > course, be using Window-Eyes.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > Rochester, NY. 
> > > 
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> > > 
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Re: Odd thing about creating folders in Windows 10

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Chris,

Ctrl-shift-n is the field-name hotkey in Window-Eyes. If you press the
bypass hotkey ins-b before ctrl-shift-n, the ctrl-shift-n is directly
send to windows and you can create your new folder.
You can redefine or undefine this hotkey for explorer in the hotkey menu
if you want.

Regards, Marten

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>  Hi guys
> 
> 
> I have, what appears to be an  odd thing going on, or at least I've never 
> seen this since I'm pretty knew to Windows 10. I've only had it for a couple 
> of weeks.  I've been told that the keystroke to create a new folder in 
> Windows 10 is control plus shift plus n.  Here's where the odd thing comes 
> into play.  When I have Window-eyes 9.4.0.0  running and I press this 
> keystroke, absolutely nothing happens.  Yet when I run another screenreader, 
> the dialogue to create a new folder comes up and I can create the folder just 
> fine.  What am I missing here? Does Window-eyes have some kind of special, 
> alternative keystroke to create a new folder that I'm not aware of? I've 
> never seen this and i'll be honest I bet a lot of you haven't either so if 
> you're stumped, you're not alone. Is there a way I can create a new folder 
> without having to run another screenreader first? I shouldn't have to do that.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Steve,

you can read html messages in browse mode if you like it.
Go to tools, general setup and the message view tabcontrol.
Shift tab here to:
html view
In your case it is set to:
convert to plain text
I have set it the same, but you can also set it to:
view with IE component

When opening a html mail, you can use the browse mode and when opening a
text based mail, it will not use browse mode.

Regards, Marten



On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:00 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk 
 wrote:

> Martha,
> 
> I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
> the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
> Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as one
> selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> 
> I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and hit
> the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
> until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus c
> to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I can
> copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
> Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> > 
> > I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
> the body of an email in my INCOX.
> > On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to
> toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
> available".
> > 
> > Anybody got a work-around?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Steve,

I am using it the same way. When you get an html mail that is not really
good readable as text, I press tab to the attachment area and open the
html file there in internet explorer.
You have to turn on the attach html message option in the tools, general
setup menu ofcource.

Regards, Marten


On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:27:33 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk 
 wrote:

> Thanks, I must have turned that off a long time ago.  I like consistency so
> will leave that option turned off, but it is good to be reminded that it is
> there.  It now makes sense why Martha sometimes could use F8 and sometimes
> not.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:marte...@xs4all.nl] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:18 AM
> To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> 
> Steve,
> 
> you can read html messages in browse mode if you like it.
> Go to tools, general setup and the message view tabcontrol.
> Shift tab here to:
> html view
> In your case it is set to:
> convert to plain text
> I have set it the same, but you can also set it to:
> view with IE component
> 
> When opening a html mail, you can use the browse mode and when opening a
> text based mail, it will not use browse mode.
> 
> Regards, Marten
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:00 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk
>  wrote:
> 
> > Martha,
> > 
> > I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
> > the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
> > Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as
> one
> > selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Steve Jacobson
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
> > To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > 
> > Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> > 
> > I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and
> hit
> > the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
> > until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus
> c
> > to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I
> can
> > copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> > www.woodeneyemusic.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
> > Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> > > 
> > > I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
> > the body of an email in my INCOX.
> > > On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried
> to
> > toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
> > available".
> > > 
> > > Anybody got a work-around?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
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text editors

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I am using Edit plus as texteditor, but not fully satisfied with how
Window-Eyes and the editor are working together on my system, so I want
to look at an other editor.
What is a good editor these days?

I have looked to Notepad plus plus, and Pspad. They look nice except
selected text.
Selected text is not spoken bij Window-Eyes. I mean by using
shift-arrows. 
I have tried the set highlight color hotkey, but this will not help.
Any suggestions to get this working or for an good alternative?

Regards, Marten


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Re: BECKY!: Sorting new entries in address book

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Martha,

Place the mousepointer on the header of the list. On the name-field and
click with the left mousebutton.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:24:41 -0500 Martha via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Using Windows 10, WE 9.4, and BECKY! as my email client.
> 
> I started my personal address book by importing contacts from my old
> Outlook Express contacts.
> Now, I have added some brand new  contacts in BECKY!  The new addresses
> are shown at the bottom of the list.  I would like to sort the list so
> that all entries are in alphabetical order.  I cannot find a menu option,
> context option, etc. to do this. Can anyone tell me how to do it?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Martha
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wineyes keys not working on login screen

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I have set windows to ask for a password at logon. This is on my windows
home 32bit system and windows 7.
Since Window Eyes 9.51, I cannot longer press ctrl-shift-w to read the
text in the logon screen.
Ofcource: the text to ask for a password is still automaticly read by
Window Eyes, but ctrl-shift-w to repeat the text will not work. Also:
when turning numlock off, the mouse keys are also not working.
When I press num7, I get a message that the mouse is routed, but when
pressing the mouse-arrows, nothing happens.
Ctrl-shift-t is still working and ins-1, keydescriber, is also working
and tells that the mouse keys are still defined.


Is it just on my system that these keys are not working?
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Re: A right pain

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Martin,

You can use shift-enter to open a link in a new Internet explorer session and 
when you have red the information, you can press alt-f4 or ctrl-f4. With 
shift-enter you open the link in a new session. When the original website 
returns, you mostly are on the position you left this page.

The situation you are giving happens most of the time with Window-Eeyes. It is 
a problem. WE has allways working this way.
Before you open the link, you can also select the line with f8 and when 
returning, you can find the line with ctrl-shift-f.
II nolder releases there was a hotkey to return to a previous position with 
ins-r, if I am right, but this key is removed with version 9.

Regards, marten


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> Perhaps someone can advise. When using Internet Explorer on, for example,
> Audible, and I wish to get more details on a particular title I press enter
> to get the required information. All good so far. However, when I press the
> alt key and the left arrow key to return to the previous page I am always
> returned to the top of that page and not to the title for which I originally
> sought the information. I then must start down arrowing to that point before
> I can continue to examine the rest of titles on offer. This loss of position
> is the same on whatever site I am exploring. A real pain. I never get this
> problem with JAWS or Voiceover. So, it is specific to Window-Eyes. This is
> unfortunate because in all other respects it performs well on the web. A
> game breaker for me, because always having to find my previous position is
> just so tedious and time consuming.
> M Brown
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g-data anti virus

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Hi,

I have installed g-data anti virus. I have seen messages about the 
accessibility about this program, but it is accessible, but not as good as I 
want. Maybe there are things I can change to make it more accessible?

For example:
When it reports a virus, you get a dialogue with a message.
The only thing Window-Eyes will read, is a combobox with the actions, a 
checkbox and ok button..
Ctrl-shift-w will not give more info.

When using Nvda, it will tell me what virus is found and a name of the virus. I 
have to press ins-b to hear that info.
I cannot see that info with the nvda review cursor.

G-data is telling me, that the viruswarning  will be written to the log, but 
where can you find the log?

When in the g-data menu or the installation program and pressing ctrl-shift-w, 
Window-Eyes will also read parts of the screen that are not in the g-data 
window. From underlying windows.

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Re: Read the status bar?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Sorry Pam,

Ctrl-shift-t is the title bar.
Statusbar is ctrl-ins-s.

Regards, marten



On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:55:24 -0400 Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
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> I always thought it was control shift t.  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sunshine via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Read the status bar?
> 
> try control insert s
> 
> 
> On 3/15/2015 10:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:
> > How exactly in W E 9.1 do I go about reading the status bar?  I'm in my
> > inbox of Outlook 2013, and I'm trying to figure out how many messages are > 
> > in
> > the current folder.  I thought it was ctrl+shift+S, but apparently not.
> > When I looked in the key describer, it says that this speaks the summary.
> > I'm not sure if that is the same thing as the status bar.  It doesn't > 
> > appear
> > to be though.
> >
> >
> > Just for reference sake, I'm basically trying to achieve the same thing as
> > pressing insert+num pad 3 in JAWS.  I need to know the W E equivalent.
> >
> >
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Re: Windows 7 and ipconfig command

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Martha,

Exit is the command to leave a dosbox, but you can also press alt-space and 
arrow to close.

Regards, Marten
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> I sometimes have to run  cmd and ipconfig commands to get the IP address so 
> that tech support at work can remote in.
> 
> The problem is that I cannot seem to get that screen to go away.  Escape, 
> alt+F4, and typeing exit does not work.
> 
> What's the secret???
> 
> Using WE 8.4 on work machine.
> Martha
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Re: Symantec Endpoint Protection

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Hi Davy,

At work whe also have Symantec endpoint. With Jaws I have no problems.
There is no problem with scripts or something related to Jaws to configure in 
endpoint for as far as I know.

Regards, Marten



On Tue, 5 May 2015 18:37:29 +0200 Davy Cuppens via Talk 
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> Hi folks
> 
> My employer will be using Symantec Endpoint Protection as our global business 
> protection on all our computers and administration rules will be restricted 
> for most people in our network.
> Are there any issues known with Symantec Endpoint and screenreaders? Are 
> there maybe protections like running scripts that must be disabled?
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Re: Seeking Your Input

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Websupport is better then in the past, but not allways that stable.
More rock solit websupport.

When searching on google and you enter on a page, alt-left arrow will land on 
the link you started on. This will sometimes happen, mostly not.

On some webpages you have an header that you can enter on. A text will come 
below that heather. Id would be nice, when Window-Eyes can give an 
announcement, that you can enter on that line.

There are also lines you can enter on and a text below that line will popup. 
Nice when WE can announce that. Now you have to guess. For example a questions 
and answer list on a page.

These things will come up.

Regards, Marten



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> Continue to improve WEB access.  Support for touch screens for both tablets 
> and laptops.
> 
> On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
> > you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
> > screen reading product, what would they be?
> >
> > Thanks for the input!
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > Jeremy Curry
> > Director of Product Management
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Re: WE cursors help

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Petro,

The num-min is a toggle. It toggles between mouse and WE-cursor.
The mouse-cursor is the same as Jaws-cursor.
WE-cursor is the invisible cursor.

Regards, Marten

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:46:04 -0400 "Petro T. Giannakopoulos via Talk" 
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> Brief testing. New user here. Less that6 hours of usage.
> WE cursor Pressing numpad minus is this the same as the JAWS cursor?
> If yes, when the WE cursor is active which keys do you use to navigate the 
> screen. I will definitely listen to the audio tutorials later again to 
> review. I know there were options for screen, active window and the like but 
> do not remember how to bring up this list. May be referrring to the wrong 
> cursor at the moment but all of this will sink in.
> I know insert+minus maybe something like route cursor to focus?
> When testing insert+numpad 7 or insert+numpad 8 and insert+numpad 9 for the 
> clips ‘graphics / objects’ how do you route the WE cursor to the graphic 
> element? I used insert+numpad / then numpad / and it worked within the 
> application I was testing WE with. Is there a better way?
> I find the ctrl+numpad 5 helpful.
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editor like notepad plusplus or pspad

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi

In the past I looked  to the editor Pspad. Seems a nice editor, but Window-Eyes 
will not speak if text is selected. Also with Window-Eyes 9.1 this information 
is not spoken. Is this something that can be fixed?

Today I looked to Notepad plus plus. 
When typing a line, with several words, each space between the words will 
generate a beep. This is not happening in Nvda or Jaws.
And also in this program: selected text is not spoken.

But: in Jaws, selected text is also not spoken.

I am using Editplus mostly and in this program a space between words is 
sometimes also generating a beep
If these things could be fixed
Sometimes I want to look at an other editor and Pspad or Notepad plusplus could 
be something, but why that beep, why not selected text?

Regards, Marten



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Re: IE Enhance missing?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Larry,

Try to kill the ienhance.exe process in taskmanager.
For me this will sometimes help.
You have to reload it after this or a restart of internet explorer is maybe 
also enough.

Marten



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> Louis, in Joseph's defense, I don't know how many times I have had this 
> script not run, but when attempting to reload it, hearing that it had been 
> loaded, and immediately stopping again. I don't know what causes this, but it 
> is really quite frustrating when it happens. About the only thing I can do is 
> reboot, because simply reloading WE doesn't seem to always help.  Of course 
> it really gets maddening when even that doesn't do the trick.
> 
> On 7/4/2015 7:12 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:
> > Well, did you have IE up and running when you went looking?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 3:07 PM
> > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> > Subject: IE Enhance missing?
> >
> > Hi:
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> >
> >
> > Using WindowEyes 9.1 for Office, I thought IE Enhance app was under the apps
> > menu, but, it is missing.
> >
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> >
> > Am I lookin in the wrong place?
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Re: windows update.

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

I think Window-Eyes is not really the problem, but something in windows will 
block Window-Eyes.

And when Nvda is running, it will not loose speech that often or even with jaws 
not.
So what is the problem is the question...
Regards, Marten

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> It's interesting, this problem of losing speech seems to happen to most of 
> us.  When I lose speech I'm not sure that it is wineyes entirely.   I was 
> scanning in Kurzweil and lost speech just like it does on line in a web site. 
>  The fact that it happened while wineyes was turned off and nvda won't come 
> up either makes me think that wineyes may not be the whole problem.  I have 
> no answers, just observations.
> 
> Bud
> 
> f At 08:27 AM 7/17/2015, you wrote:
> >I have Win eyes 9.1 stop talking in just about every program I run.
> >emails and using I.E. 11 are the worst, but I have found that Win eyes
> >9.1 can stop talking at any time.
> >
> >And in my case, I bought 9.1 too far back, and so I'll need to pay
> >another $50 in hopes of getting a program that stays together a bit
> >better.
> >
> >However, before I pay my $50 I am going to see if 9.2 works any better.
> >
> >
> >I will say that I find 9.1 to fall short of the quality that I have been
> >spoiled by from the Old GW Micro Company.
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Slider on google page

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I cannot change the slider for google search results with Window-Eyes 9.1 and 
internet explorer 11. Is this something WE cannot change or is it only on my 
system? Maybe to look into.

When going to options and search options, you can change the search results. 
Default is 10, but I would like to have it set to 100.

With Window-Eyes I could not change it, but with Jaws it was no problem.

Regards, Marten

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mail is automaticly spoken

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hello,

A member of my mailinglist is using Window-Eyes and Outlook 2013.
Since a few days, his mail is automaticly red, when it arrives. I understood, 
that it doesn't matter in witch program he is working.

He checked the options in the Outlook enhance app, but He could not find an 
option for this.

I am using Becky mail and don't know Outlook.
Does anyone no, what is happening or how to stop this?

Kind regards, Marten


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Is Ieenhance gone?

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi, I have downloaded and installed WE9.2 on win7 32bit over my 9.1 version.

Every time I reboot and start Internet explorer11, No ieenhance.exe is loaded 
and I cannot use placemarkers.

?When I tried to use appget to download and install these apps again, the 
appget app was gone also.
In the apps menu no appget.

In add/remove apps: I can still see, that ieenhance, browsemode enhance and 
appget are installed today.

Why why why and what to do.

/Regards, Marten

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Re: Win 10 responsiveness

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Don,

You can look at Xplorer.  A file explorer replacement.
I am using it all the time with WE9.2 and I like it more than the standard 
explorer.
In win7 or 8 it is more responcive, so in win`0 too, I think.
You have to reclass the explorer window in this program to a listview, but 
after this, it is accessible.
On the GWmicro site there must be a podcast. I thought that it was done by 
Chris G. from AI squared.

You can download it from: www.zabkat.com
The program is not free, but there is a 14 day version orso.

AQnd there is a lite version that is free.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:57:21 -0500 Don H via Talk  
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> OK so I have been reporting that Win 10 would not read the list of entries in 
> the file manager.  Cris at Aisquared sent me a link for a full copy of 9.2 
> and the WE removal tool.  I used the removal tool to remove WE and 
> reinstalled a clean copy.  Now WE will at least read the items with the arrow 
> keys in the file manager but still has a lag of several seconds between 
> pressing a up or down arrow key and voicing what it should.  Far from 
> acceptable but better than no speaking of the list items.
> Is there a good alternative to file manager?  I think someone mentioned one 
> in the past.
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windows 10 problem with startmenu

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi,

I just upgraded to windows 10 pro from windows 8pro.

Window-Eyes seems faster in win10 than in win8 on my system. 
But when I open the startmenu, I cannot arrow.
When [pressing the startbutton, I hear:
search
and when pressing arrow up or down, it says "start"
or something that is selected in an other program.
Same when pressing win-q.

I have re-installed the WE9.2 upgrade, but no difference.

Does any body know what  is happening here?

With Nvda I have no problems.

Regards, marten




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Re: how to change window class for Zab Kat file XPlorer question

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Rob,

Press ins-r when in the Xplorer window and choose focused window. Ins-r
is the reclass hotkey.
In Xplorer you have two windows with an folder window. You can switch
between the windows with tab. Maybe you have to reclass the other
folder-window too.

Regards, Marten

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> Dear List,
> How do I change the window class in window eyes?
> the file XPlorer program by Zab Kat is saying list view when I arrow up and 
> down the file list.
> 
> Thank You,
> Rob
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Re: Internet Browsers

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Martha,

I am also a becky user, but I am reading mail in plain text and if I
want to see the html text, I open the attachment.
If you want to try this:
Go with alt-t to tools,
Genreal and shift-tab to the tabcontrol.
Arrow right to Messageview and 10 times shift-tab to:
HTML view
set this with arrows to Convert to plain text.
When in a message, press tab to see the attachment.


Regards, Marten



On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:59:10 -0600 Martha via Talk  
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> I just had wonderful help from Microsoft Disability support to update my
> Windows 10 OS to build 1909. The support person, Grace, also installed
> the latest release of Edge which she referred to as "Edge Cromium". I
> haven't played with it yet.
> 
> Here is my dilemma. I use BECKY! as my email client. According to the
> Help info, BECKY! 2.74.x needs an IE5 or better  component to handle
> HTML. 
> 
> A private tech support person said that the IE5 was different from
> Internet Explorer, but, I'm not confident that this is true. While I
> have the IE5 box checked, I still get "If your browser isn't displaying
> this HTML message, you need to upgrade...".
> 
> Any other BECKY! users out there with any info to share?
> 
> I've been reluctant to use MS Office because I find the ribbons just too
> confusing. Maybe things have gotten better from a useability standpoint
> since the last time I checked???
> 
> Martha
> -- 
> Martha 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:56:41 -0600
> tony c via Talk  wrote:
> 
>  Hi, I E is done, and I use chrome. I’ve been told that as soon as Microsoft 
> get all the buggs out of Edge that one of the windows updated will do away 
> with IE all together.
>  
>  Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
>  From: net bat2 via Talk
>  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 9:46 PM
>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>  Cc: net bat2
>  Subject: Re: Internet Browsers
>  
>  have you tried the brave chrome browser? this one supposedly will also not 
>  track where you go.
>  -Original Message- 
>  From: Debra Hill via Talk
>  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 5:06 PM
>  To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>  Cc: Debra Hill
>  Subject: Internet Browsers
>  
>  Hi,
>  
>  
>  
>  It seems in my latest Windows update that Internet Explorer no longer works.
>  I prefer the duckduckgo.com as my browser but it tells me I will need an app
>  from the app store.  My Window Eyes or either the browser does not have
>  header but I can only tab from link to link.  When I had tried to use the
>  Google Chrome is was a similar situation and difficult to maneuver around.
>  
>  
>  
>  I have Windows 10 and Window Eyes 9.54.  Can any other browser be used so I
>  can search on the internet?  Is Narrator a better option?
>  
>  
>  
>  Thanks for any help and advice as to what may be done.  Sorry if this is a
>  repeat of earlier questions but this is just now occurring with me.
>  
>  
>  
>  Have a blessed day!
>  
>  
>  
>  Deborah
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