query

[Anthony Borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Sorry to troubling you. But I wonder if you can help me with this problem 
I checked the security updates to to be sure that there isn't any updates
stucked there. I noticed that the updates it is on pause. 
Could you please explain to me how to turn it on again? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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RE: Error Reporting

[Anthony Borg via Talk]

Could you please explain to me how to get to that error box? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: 25 July 2019 19:40
To: Natalie via Talk 
Cc: Curtis Delzer 
Subject: Re: Error Reporting

I just checked the box which said don't display these errors in future, and
have not a problem since.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

cur...@calweb.com

On 7/17/2019 5:07 AM, Natalie via Talk wrote:
> I get the same error report every time I boot up but just close it. 
> It's not your system.
>
>
> Natalie
>
> On 7/16/2019 10:53 PM, David via Talk wrote:
>> Interesting.
>>
>>
>> Two days ago, my Window-Eyes had a crash, and I had to do a cold-boot 
>> of the system. After that, the error report message comes up every 
>> time I start Window-eyes. I thought it was only my system, and had in 
>> mind to ask the list if there is a way to get rid of the whole thing. 
>> Been searching through the menus, hoping for a way to turn error 
>> reporting off, but did see nothing.
>>
>>
>> and here, you are several others, who experience the report message 
>> popping up on you. Well, at least it seems it might not be my system.
>> Smiles.
>>
>>
>> May I ask if you guys have had some of the apps crash on you as well?
>> See on my system, a couple of apps seem to crash every time I load 
>> WinEyes. This has been going on for a couple of weeks, so a bit 
>> longer than the Error Report issue, but just wonder if there is some 
>> kind of connection. Basically, I do not need the apps, so might have 
>> to simply just turn them off, and perhaps you are not running them, 
>> hence they would not crash on you. Still just wanted to know. The 
>> apps in question is the Uninstall App, developed by Bruce; and also 
>> the app that let us change profile with a hotkey, its name being some 
>> foreign language, but it something like Profilu. Sorry, I don't have 
>> it in front of me right now, that's why memory has to serve.
>>
>>
>> For your info, I have scanned my computer with AntiVirus, 
>> Anti-Malware programs, and even ran a Registry cleanup with CCleaner. 
>> Once I had the WEDiag app installed yesterday, I let it rebuild the 
>> Accessibility Libraries, being one of the features it offered. I had 
>> hope that any of this took care of the Error Report, but it doesn't 
>> seem to have any positive effect.
>>
>>
>> I did try to hit Send, next time I simply just closed the Error 
>> Report Message. The rest of the times it's been on my screen, I 
>> pressed the Delete button of the dialog, hoping it would remove the 
>> thing from my computer. But it sure seems it generates new reports every
startup.
>> Happens even if you close WinEyes with Ctrl-Insert-F4, and then 
>> restart the screen reader - a new Error Report comes up.
>>
>>
>> Probably you are right, it might have to do with late updates of the 
>> general system. By the way, Yes, I do run Win7Pro 64Bit. Not sure if 
>> that is the only kind of systems affected. Who knows, maybe this is 
>> the signal that WinEyes is giving its last breath. Win7 support is 
>> obviously going to be discontinued in 6 months from now, so could it 
>> be something there?
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 7/17/2019 2:57 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>>> Same here with the same OS. I'll guess it is related to the Windows 
>>> updates that were pushed out last week, but I have no idea what it is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>> -Original Message- From: Tom via Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:21 PM
>>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>>> Cc: Tom
>>> Subject: Error Reporting
>>>
>>> Using Windows 7 64 bit and Window-Eyes 9.5.4.
>>> I have Window-Eyes set to load after login.
>>> For the past few days after Window-Eyes loads I get the error 
>>> reporting message. I've been deleting it and Window-Eyes seems to 
>>> run normally, but what might be causing the error reporting message 
>>> to come up?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
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RE: setting up narrator

[Anthony Borg via Talk]

Hi rod 
Firstly, thanks for the info you have sent me. But I need to reset all the
settings because none of the commands works unfortunately. 
Best regards 
Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: 04 August 2019 21:54
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: setting up narrator 

Hi Anthony,

To increase the voice volume, press Ctrl-CapsLock-Numpad-Plus.
To decrease the voice volume, press Ctrl-CapsLock-Numpad-Minus To increase
the voice rate, press CapsLock-equals on the top of the keyboard To decrease
the voice rate, press CapsLock-hypen on the top of the keyboard

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Anthony Borg via Talk
Sent: August 4, 2019 12:48 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Cc: Anthony Borg 
Subject: setting up narrator 

Hi list
Does anyone can explain to me how to set up the windows 10 narrator please? 
Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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setting up narrator

[Anthony Borg via Talk]

Hi list 
Does anyone can explain to me how to set up the windows 10 narrator please? 
Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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RE: questions regarding the new version of skype

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hello folks 
I just installed the new version of skype and I need your assistance please. 
Can someone explain to me how to add a new contact in the contacts? And how to 
delete a contact that I don't need? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 30 August 2018 18:46
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: questions regarding the new version of skype 

David,
I would sum it up this way. The very nature of a screen reader inexorably ties 
it to the operating system it was written to work on. 
And that in and of itself precludes it from being ported to any other operating 
system.
Regards,
Tom


On 8/30/2018 4:16 AM, David wrote:
> There you are, Tom.
> 
> 
> Would you agree, if we try to cook it down to something even non-tech 
> people will understand, we might basically explain it all like this?
> 
> 
> When we see a program well-known to Windows users, all the sudden pop 
> up as an app on IOS or Android - it is NOT because the program itself 
> was ported over. Very basically spoken, the ideas or features of the 
> program, even to some extent the layout, will have been transferred.
> Yet, the very code behind it all, will likely to a very high extent 
> have been rewritten.
> 
> 
> Let's try this with an example. Again, let's go to the traffic. When 
> you see a family car rolling down the street, will you then exclaim:
> 
>   Hey, look, a mini truck!
> 
> Well, in essense, the car has a number of features resembling and 
> quite compatible with those of a truck or bus. They all have four 
> wheels (at least). All have a steering wheel, and they all have windows all 
> around.
> Still, you please talk to the ingeneers who designed the family car, 
> and ask them if they simply just could down-scale a truck, and let it 
> out the doors. Think of the fact, that your car has breaks that 
> operate on hydraulic system, whereas the truck has air-operated breaks 
> (what is known as pneumatic breaks). The truck definitely is running 
> on a diesel engine, likely your car is on gasolin or even all 
> electric. The truck even might have numerous wheels, tell me if you 
> are the owner of a family car with anything more than four. Obviously, 
> both vihicles have been designed for transportation, with some basics 
> in common. And the designers might likely have used the knowledge from 
> one production, in their work on the other. They might even have a 
> certain similarity, for instance if your family car actually would happen to 
> be a pickup truck.
> Nonetheless, they are such different constructions that they likely 
> are being produced on separate sites, and your local repair shop might 
> only do work on one of them. You even will have to get a totally 
> different drivers license for each.
> 
> 
> If you Olusegun are dreaming of seeing a screen reader on Android, 
> which will resemble some - or most - of the features of Window-Eyes, 
> your dreams might be valid enough. If, on the other hand, you think 
> someone could simply just take the code of Window-Eyes and process it 
> through some kind of converter; well, just to break your day, don't 
> even waste your time... :)
> 
> 
> Even on the Windows platform itself, we find several programming 
> languages. Some three decades ago, I started doing small tasks under 
> one of them, named Basic. Later on I moved on to Turbo Pascal, and 
> when Windows started to become the road of the day, I ran into AutoHotkey.
> Then came the scripting capability of Window-Eyes, and here the 
> VBScript language became much the standard of most apps. I did look 
> shortly into JScript, and have peeked at some of the codes in Python, 
> and even Pearle. No, i don't expect most readers to recognize much of 
> the names, just want to show you some of the variety - and that is all 
> Windows programming. What I want to stress to you all:
> 
>   Believe me, you won't be able to take code from one of these 
> languages, and simply copy it into the other. There does exist NO 
> converters, whatever your dreams might look like, that would let the 
> one program be ported over to another of these languages. And even for 
> a driven programmer, going from one language over to the other, might 
> be quite confusing.
> 
> 
> Should I please get two seconds of your day, in showing you one simple 
> example?
> 
> 
> In one language, the calculations performed inside the code, will 
> always be interpretted from left to right. an expression like:
> 
>   2 plus 3, multiplied with 4 (2+3*4),
> 
> would result in the computer taking 2, adding on 3, getting 5; and 
> then multiplying it all with 4, resulting in a grand total of 20.
> 
> 
> Now, bring that simple expression:
> 
>   2+3*4
> 
> into the other programming language, and your surprise and frustration 
> will be complete. Here the interpretation takes 

RE: skype problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom, 
Many thanks for the info you have sent me, which I really appreciated. 
Regards 
Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 28 July 2018 21:53
To: anthony borg via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: skype problem

Hi Anthony,
Sorry, but I don't know what to say. I knew the new version isn't as
accessible. So I've just been saying no to the update. But eventually the
old version is just going to stop working. At least that's what it said
today instead of just prompting me to install the update.
The only other thing I can think of is to restore a system backup if you
have one.
Good luck,
Tom


On 7/28/2018 4:25 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hello tom,
> I don't know if you can be of any help to me.
> 3 days ago I had skype updates and when I was doing the installation 
> it failed and now I can't use it.
> For example the commands and the setting are not working. So I 
> uninstalled it and installed another version, 8.25.0.5 but it remained the
same.
> I hope that there is a way how to resolve this problem.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 18 July 2018 18:55
> To: Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk 
> Cc: Tom Kingston 
> Subject: skype problem
> 
> David,
> NVDA has nowhere near the control and flexibility of Window-Eyes. You 
> can read the entire user's guide pretty quickly. It's the first option 
> in the help pulldown.
> Unless I somehow missed it there's no control over the cursor keys.
> Configuration profiles are the equivalent of set files.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to find a way to change what is spoken when I use the 
>> cursor
> keys in NVDA.  In WE the cursor keys can be changed to read character, 
> line, etc..  I would like to do this with NVDA.
>>
>> Also, can I create a set file equivalent with NVDA?
>>
>> David Ayers
>>
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RE: skype problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi rod 
I using it on my del laptop. And all of a sudden I can't using it any more
after I tried to do the update. 
I really cannot understand why all the skype settings and command are not
working any longer. 
Regards 
Anthony  

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: 28 July 2018 22:33
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: skype problem

Hi Tom and Anthony,

I've heard that Microsoft is improving the accessibility of Skype, but I'm
not sure which version this is.
I assume that they will be improving all versions on all platforms including
macOS.
Personally, I use Skype on IOS and, with patience, it is fully accessible.

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: July 28, 2018 3:53 PM
To: anthony borg via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: skype problem

Hi Anthony,
Sorry, but I don't know what to say. I knew the new version isn't as
accessible. So I've just been saying no to the update. But eventually the
old version is just going to stop working. At least that's what it said
today instead of just prompting me to install the update.
The only other thing I can think of is to restore a system backup if you
have one.
Good luck,
Tom


On 7/28/2018 4:25 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hello tom,
> I don't know if you can be of any help to me.
> 3 days ago I had skype updates and when I was doing the installation 
> it failed and now I can't use it.
> For example the commands and the setting are not working. So I 
> uninstalled it and installed another version, 8.25.0.5 but it remained the
same.
> I hope that there is a way how to resolve this problem.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 18 July 2018 18:55
> To: Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk 
> Cc: Tom Kingston 
> Subject: skype problem
> 
> David,
> NVDA has nowhere near the control and flexibility of Window-Eyes. You 
> can read the entire user's guide pretty quickly. It's the first option 
> in the help pulldown.
> Unless I somehow missed it there's no control over the cursor keys.
> Configuration profiles are the equivalent of set files.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to find a way to change what is spoken when I use the 
>> cursor
> keys in NVDA.  In WE the cursor keys can be changed to read character, 
> line, etc..  I would like to do this with NVDA.
>>
>> Also, can I create a set file equivalent with NVDA?
>>
>> David Ayers
>>
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RE: skype problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hello tom, 
I don't know if you can be of any help to me. 
3 days ago I had skype updates and when I was doing the installation it
failed and now I can't use it. 
For example the commands and the setting are not working. So I uninstalled
it and installed another version, 8.25.0.5 but it remained the same. 
I hope that there is a way how to resolve this problem. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 18 July 2018 18:55
To: Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: skype problem 

David,
NVDA has nowhere near the control and flexibility of Window-Eyes. You can
read the entire user's guide pretty quickly. It's the first option in the
help pulldown.
Unless I somehow missed it there's no control over the cursor keys.
Configuration profiles are the equivalent of set files.
Hth,
Tom


On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to find a way to change what is spoken when I use the cursor
keys in NVDA.  In WE the cursor keys can be changed to read character, line,
etc..  I would like to do this with NVDA.
> 
> Also, can I create a set file equivalent with NVDA?
> 
> David Ayers
> 
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RE: keyboard commands for skype

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 
I am experiencing the same problem with skype. 
Can sombody explain what I should do solve this problem? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Sent: 18 July 2018 23:35
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Cc: Robin 
Subject: keyboard commands for skype

About
Skype version 8.25.0.5
C 2018 Skype & Microsoft
You're on the latest version of Skype.
updated this today but can't find where to set up key commands Eg like alt
pgup to answer a call.
and alt pgdown to sign off.
many thanks for any help.
Cheers Robin.
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RE: how to use the bluetooth

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi steve 
By any chance, can you please explain to me how to transfer material such as
mp3 from a laptop to a mobile phone via bluetooth? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: how to use the bluetooth

Anthony,

When a message like that comes up, you can open the Action Center on the
System Tray and you will find that message there.  If you press ENTER on the
message, you will be brought to a Window that shows information about
updates including the one that is not completing.  There will be an error
code associated with that message but it isn't that easy to find or read,
and I don't know the best way to tell you how to find it with Window-eyes
since I don't have Window-Eyes on the computer that is giving me this
problem.  If you get the error code, searching for it with Google might give
you information.  I have to tell you, though, that doing all of this has not
helped me resolve the problem I am having.  I am going to just wait a while
to see if Microsoft eventually figures out why the updates are failing on
certain computers.  It is most likely that there is some incompatibility on
my computer and possibly on yours that they will have to address.  Sorry I
can't be more helpful.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 9:15 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: anthony borg <anthonyborg...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi steve
My problem is that evrytime I try to do the updates as usual by pressing the
restart from the desktop. After the restart the updates remain there. 
I even tried to do it manually but it didn't work either. 
When I finish the restart, about a minute or 2 I get a notification saying
that the updates couldn't be finished. 
I hope you would be able to understand my explanation. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony

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Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Anthony,

I know of others who have had some problems.  What problem did you encounter
and how did you resolve it? Your experience might help someone else.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Cc: anthony borg <anthonyborg...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi folks
Just to let you know that I have managed to resolve the update problem. 
Regards
Anthony 

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: update problem

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/

RE: transfering via bluetooth

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi 
Can somebody explain how to transfer an mp3 from the laptop to a mobile
phone via bluetooth please? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Behalf Of John Covici via Talk
Sent: 25 May 2018 11:14
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: John Covici 
Subject: transfering via bluetooth 

I have and use a Mac, but its not the be-all and end-all of accessibility.
In the Mac world, they have the idea that the app developer must conform to
their standards, if the developer does conform exactly, then the program is
usually accessible, if the developer does something unusual, then the
program is not accessible at all.  So, certain programs work well, but its a
subset of what is available.

I hope this clarify things a bit.

On Thu, 24 May 2018 16:49:43 -0400,
Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> What kind of a Mac or you thinking about purchasing?
> 
> Paulette
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
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> On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:35 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tony C
> Subject: Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?
> 
> Hi, My next computer purchase will be a Mac. I stopped using Jaws back 
> in
> 2003 and used Window eyes till forced to revert to Jaws. I don't like 
> the company assoiated with it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:33 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: Paulette Vickery
> Subject: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know about you, but I am just getting tired of it and want a 
> complete change. I am tired of having to change screen readers every 
> so often. I am tired of continually having to learn new and so called 
> improved Windows programs and Windows updates. I am tired of 
> wondering, worrying and waiting for the next change and inevitable 
> scramble to keep up by the blind in the computer world.
> 
> 
> 
> So now, I am considering taking a leap of what ever you care to call 
> it and try using an Apple laptop, specifically, the Mac Book Air. I 
> know there is a steep learning curve, but I must say that there is a 
> lot of support available.
> 
> For example, every Apple store is supposed to have on site training on 
> all Apple devices for people with disabilities, including blind 
> people. I know that the store here in Louisville has such training.
> 
> The Apple Care for people with disabilities is available over the 
> phone 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. That is more than there regular Apple
Care.
> 
> The Apple Mac has a built in screen reader with different voices at no 
> extra cost installed on each device they make. There is also a short 
> tutorial for how to use Voice Over, the Apple voice and it's software, 
> also at no extra cost, included on each device.
> 
> I know that it has nothing to do with how it works, but the outer case 
> of the laptop is metal and has an apple, complete with 2 leaves and a 
> bite taken from the apple, as the logo which I can touch easily.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else thought about using, or has used an Apple mac laptop? 
> If so what did or do you think about the Mac?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
> 
> 
> 
> Paulette
> 
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RE: update problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi steve 
My windows pc updates has been resolved now. but thanks for your info
because I didn't know that I could go in the action center to read the
message. 
I I used to use window-eyes but since it stopped running. I switched to NVDA
and I'm finding it quite good too. 
Thanks once again for your help. 
Regards 
Anthony  

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Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: 18 May 2018 17:54
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Anthony,

When a message like that comes up, you can open the Action Center on the
System Tray and you will find that message there.  If you press ENTER on the
message, you will be brought to a Window that shows information about
updates including the one that is not completing.  There will be an error
code associated with that message but it isn't that easy to find or read,
and I don't know the best way to tell you how to find it with Window-eyes
since I don't have Window-Eyes on the computer that is giving me this
problem.  If you get the error code, searching for it with Google might give
you information.  I have to tell you, though, that doing all of this has not
helped me resolve the problem I am having.  I am going to just wait a while
to see if Microsoft eventually figures out why the updates are failing on
certain computers.  It is most likely that there is some incompatibility on
my computer and possibly on yours that they will have to address.  Sorry I
can't be more helpful.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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Behalf Of anthony borg via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 9:15 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: anthony borg <anthonyborg...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi steve
My problem is that evrytime I try to do the updates as usual by pressing the
restart from the desktop. After the restart the updates remain there. 
I even tried to do it manually but it didn't work either. 
When I finish the restart, about a minute or 2 I get a notification saying
that the updates couldn't be finished. 
I hope you would be able to understand my explanation. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: 11 May 2018 15:25
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Anthony,

I know of others who have had some problems.  What problem did you encounter
and how did you resolve it? Your experience might help someone else.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of anthony borg via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:42 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: anthony borg <anthonyborg...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi folks
Just to let you know that I have managed to resolve the update problem. 
Regards
Anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: update problem

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
>

RE: update problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi steve 
My problem is that evrytime I try to do the updates as usual by pressing the
restart from the desktop. After the restart the updates remain there. 
I even tried to do it manually but it didn't work either. 
When I finish the restart, about a minute or 2 I get a notification saying
that the updates couldn't be finished. 
I hope you would be able to understand my explanation. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: 11 May 2018 15:25
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Anthony,

I know of others who have had some problems.  What problem did you encounter
and how did you resolve it? Your experience might help someone else.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Behalf Of anthony borg via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:42 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: anthony borg <anthonyborg...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: update problem

Hi folks
Just to let you know that I have managed to resolve the update problem. 
Regards
Anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: update problem

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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RE: problems with the last updates

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Thanks very much just the same for your support. 
Best regards 
Anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 18 May 2018 14:13
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: problems with the last updates

Hi Anthony,
Sorry, but I have no idea what the problem is. Hopefully a future update
will take care of it.
Good luck,
Tom


On 5/18/2018 5:01 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> Many thanks for your prompt reply and your explanation.
> After I do the update and restart from the desktop as usual, and then I do
> it again manually. the notification I get only say that the updates
couldn't
> be finished.
> It doesn't give a reason why.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 18 May 2018 03:29
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: problems with the last updates
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Does the message saying the update couldn't be finished give any reason,
> such as components missing, incompatibility, etc?
> If not I would first try shutting your system down instead of rebooting.
> Give it 5 or 10 minutes before powering back up. Once in a while this
takes
> care of strange problems.
> If it doesn't I'd do a manual check for updates. That might take care of
it
> as well.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 5/17/2018 1:50 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> Hi tom
>> Firstly thanks for the narrator explanation. Now I don't know if you
>> can help me.
>> I have been trying to do the last major updates since last week. By
>> doing the normal procedure.
>> First I'm doing the update by using the restart from the desktop as
>> usual, then after that I'm rebooting it from the secure updates. i
>> have been doing this evry ten minutes for the last few days.
>> Evrytime I do it, I get a notification saying that the updates
>> couldn't be finished.
>> I don't know what else I should do now.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 17 May 2018 18:43
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: problems with the last updates
>>
>> You can see all the Narrator commands with Caps lock+F1.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/2018 2:00 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> Can somebody which it are the commands to read a text or a whole
>>> document and and an email from top to bottom.
>>> And also how to read a line?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> anthony
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of L Urie via Talk
>>> Sent: 15 May 2018 01:38
>>> To: Don Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> Cc: L Urie <l.u...@bell.net>
>>> Subject: narrator commands
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Control, plus windows key, plus enter, will toggle narrator on and off.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-05-14 7:29 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>>> Hi Folks
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I have a new download of windows 10 and win eyes or jaws
>>>> will not speak
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> What is the narrater to open and close narrater if one would be so
>>>> kind
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
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RE: problems with the last updates

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Many thanks for your prompt reply and your explanation. 
After I do the update and restart from the desktop as usual, and then I do
it again manually. the notification I get only say that the updates couldn't
be finished. 
It doesn't give a reason why. 
Thanks in advance for your help. 
Anthony 

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 18 May 2018 03:29
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: problems with the last updates

Hi Anthony,
Does the message saying the update couldn't be finished give any reason,
such as components missing, incompatibility, etc?
If not I would first try shutting your system down instead of rebooting. 
Give it 5 or 10 minutes before powering back up. Once in a while this takes
care of strange problems.
If it doesn't I'd do a manual check for updates. That might take care of it
as well.
Hth,
Tom


On 5/17/2018 1:50 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> Firstly thanks for the narrator explanation. Now I don't know if you 
> can help me.
> I have been trying to do the last major updates since last week. By 
> doing the normal procedure.
> First I'm doing the update by using the restart from the desktop as 
> usual, then after that I'm rebooting it from the secure updates. i 
> have been doing this evry ten minutes for the last few days.
> Evrytime I do it, I get a notification saying that the updates 
> couldn't be finished.
> I don't know what else I should do now.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 17 May 2018 18:43
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: problems with the last updates
> 
> You can see all the Narrator commands with Caps lock+F1.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 5/16/2018 2:00 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> Hi folks
>> Can somebody which it are the commands to read a text or a whole 
>> document and and an email from top to bottom.
>> And also how to read a line?
>> Thanks in advance
>> anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of L Urie via Talk
>> Sent: 15 May 2018 01:38
>> To: Don Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: L Urie <l.u...@bell.net>
>> Subject: narrator commands
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Control, plus windows key, plus enter, will toggle narrator on and off.
>>
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2018-05-14 7:29 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Looks like I have a new download of windows 10 and win eyes or jaws 
>>> will not speak
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> What is the narrater to open and close narrater if one would be so 
>>> kind
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> 
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RE: problems with the last updates

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Firstly thanks for the narrator explanation. Now I don't know if you can
help me. 
I have been trying to do the last major updates since last week. By doing
the normal procedure. 
First I'm doing the update by using the restart from the desktop as usual,
then after that I'm rebooting it from the secure updates. i have been doing
this evry ten minutes for the last few days. 
Evrytime I do it, I get a notification saying that the updates couldn't be
finished. 
I don't know what else I should do now. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony   

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 17 May 2018 18:43
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: problems with the last updates 

You can see all the Narrator commands with Caps lock+F1.
Hth,
Tom


On 5/16/2018 2:00 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi folks
> Can somebody which it are the commands to read a text or a whole 
> document and and an email from top to bottom.
> And also how to read a line?
> Thanks in advance
> anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of L Urie via Talk
> Sent: 15 May 2018 01:38
> To: Don Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: L Urie <l.u...@bell.net>
> Subject: narrator commands
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Control, plus windows key, plus enter, will toggle narrator on and off.
> 
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2018-05-14 7:29 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like I have a new download of windows 10 and win eyes or jaws 
>> will not speak
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the narrater to open and close narrater if one would be so 
>> kind
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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RE: narrator commands

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 
Can somebody which it are the commands to read a text or a whole document
and and an email from top to bottom. 
And also how to read a line? 
Thanks in advance 
anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of L Urie via Talk
Sent: 15 May 2018 01:38
To: Don Smith via Talk 
Cc: L Urie 
Subject: narrator commands 

Hi,

Control, plus windows key, plus enter, will toggle narrator on and off.


Lee




On 2018-05-14 7:29 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
>   
>
> Looks like I have a new download of windows 10 and win eyes or jaws 
> will not speak
>
>   
>
> What is the narrater to open and close narrater if one would be so 
> kind
>
> Thanks
>
>   
>
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RE: update problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 
Just to let you know that I have managed to resolve the update problem. 
Regards 
Anthony 

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: update problem

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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RE: windows pc updates problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 
Yesterday I got a pc updates and I tried the normal procedure by restarting
my computer, but unfortunately it didn't work. 
So I tried to do it manually and it didn't work either. I can't understand
what I'm doing wrong. 
Is there another way that I should do to install it? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: windows pc updates problem 

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Firstly thanks very much for your help. I'm using windows 1709. 
What I told you regarding when I write something in notepad and and check it
with the right or the left arrow or,I always have to press   the home key to
go at the beginning of of the sentence. 
I'm so sorry if I'm confusing you. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 07 May 2018 06:37
To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,

I didn't look at your list of commands because it will depend on what
version of Windows you're using and what build. I haven't used Narrator
much. But I took a look and you can get a list of commands with Caps 
lock+F1. I did that and the read line key is Control+Caps lock+O, not
Caps lock+O.
I tried it in Notepad and it said "command not available." So I hit Caps 
lock+F1 to double check. And when I exited and returned to Notepad it
worked fine. So I have no idea what's up with that.

I don't understand your question on writing a sentence and the cursor 
being at the end. That's where it should be when you're writing.

Regards,
Tom


On 5/6/2018 9:39 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> I wonder if you can help me.
> I'm trying to use narrator and I'm using the keyboard commands according
to
> the keyboard commands and it isn't working.
> For example, when I press the capslock + o, to read current line, it isn't
> doing so.
> Besides that I'm noticing that when I I write a sentence on the notepad
> the cursor doesn't go at the beginning of the sentence, but it remains at
> the end of the sentence.
> I will attaching you a copy of the keyboard commands to check it for me
> please and explain to me if I have the right one.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 27 April 2018 14:44
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
> Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
> scripts.
>
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
> b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
> But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
> I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for
key
> describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination.
> So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
> combination first.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> Hi tom
>> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then
>> ctrl
>> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
>> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
>> I hope you will understand what I mean.
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Regards
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> Hi Anthony,
>> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like
>> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> HI TOM
>>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>>
>>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>>> Hth,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>>> Hi folks
>>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the

RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
I wonder if you can help me. 
I'm trying to use narrator and I'm using the keyboard commands according to
the keyboard commands and it isn't working. 
For example, when I press the capslock + o, to read current line, it isn't
doing so. 
Besides that I'm noticing that when I I write a sentence on the notepad
the cursor doesn't go at the beginning of the sentence, but it remains at
the end of the sentence. 
I will attaching you a copy of the keyboard commands to check it for me
please and explain to me if I have the right one. 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
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> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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explanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 
I'm trying to use narrator for the first time and I'm using the commands
that I found in the narrator keyboard commands. 
But my problem is that when I tried to use the capslock key + o, to read a
current line, it doesn't read it. The same thing is happening whenever I try
to use the other commands as well. 
Can somebody explain to me why this is happening please? And what I should
do? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony  

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RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Thanks tom. 
And have a very good weekend. 
Anthony 
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Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
I'm so sorry if I had caused you so much trouble. But thanks very much for
your efferts to help me. 
Many thanks for the info you have sent me. 
Regards 
Anthony 

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Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
I don't use Outlook. But I just looked at the keyboard shortcuts page for
Outlook because I thought perhaps Control+Shift+B was in the Window-Eyes
scripts.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-outlook-3cde
b221-7ae5-4c1d-8c1d-9e63216c1efd
But Control+Shift+B is the native Outlook shortcut for the address book.
I then loaded NVDA because I still use Window-Eyes. I pressed NVDA+1 for key
describer mode. And Control+Shift+B is not a NVDA key combination. 
So you should be able to just press it without pressing the bypass
combination first.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/27/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> Hi tom
> With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then 
> ctrl
> + shift + b, to go to the address book.
> But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead.
> I hope you will understand what I mean.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 21:08
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like 
> the Window-Eyes bypass key.
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> HI TOM
>> Mmany thanks for the info.
>> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
>> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: wexplanation
>>
>> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
>>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
>>> as well?
>>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
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RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
With window-eyes in outlook I used to use the insert key + b, and then ctrl
+ shift + b, to go to the address book. 
But now unfortunately I don't know what I should use instead. 
I hope you will understand what I mean. 
Thanks in advance for your help. 
Regards 
Anthony 

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Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like the
Window-Eyes bypass key.
Regards,
Tom


On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> HI TOM
> Mmany thanks for the info.
> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> Hi folks
>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an
>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA
>> as well?
>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
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RE: wexplanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi tom 
Many thanks for your help which I really appreciated very much. 
Regards 
Anthony  

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Subject: Re: wexplanation

Hi Anthony,
Yes. NVDA+F2 can be used anywhere because it's an NVDA key, just like the
Window-Eyes bypass key.
Regards,
Tom


On 4/26/2018 2:03 PM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
> HI TOM
> Mmany thanks for the info.
> Is that can be used in outlook as well please?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: 26 April 2018 16:51
> To: anthony borg via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: wexplanation
> 
> In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/26/2018 8:24 AM, anthony borg via Talk wrote:
>> Hi folks
>> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
>> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an
>> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
>> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA
>> as well?
>> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
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RE: wexplanation

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HI TOM 
Mmany thanks for the info. 
Is that can be used in outlook as well please? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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In NVDA it's NVDA key plus F2.
Hth,
Tom


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> Hi folks
> I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader.
> Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an 
> insert key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more.
> So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA 
> as well?
> If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
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wexplanation

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Hi folks 
I'm using windows 10, and NVDA as a screen reader. 
Since I switched to NVDA when I tried to use the capslock key as an insert
key + b, for bypass. I noticed that it isn't working any more. 
So can someone explain to me if the bypass procedure applys for NVDA as
well? 
If not, is there another way how to do it with NVDA please? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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outlook problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 

I'm using outlook 2013 and when I open an email, or send an email it makes a
charm sound. 

Can somebody explain to me how to turn it off again please. 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

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question

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 

I'm using outlook 2013 and evrytime I open an email it beeps, and even when
I reply the email it does the same thing. 

Can someone explain to me how to turn it off please? 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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any solution

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 

I wonder if anyone can help me. 

I'm using a dell laptop model " I 7 5337 inspirer " and the problem is
because the screen became black and white. 

Can somebody explain to me what I should do to get it back to normal please?


Thanks in advance 

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explanation

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi list 

I needto use the spread sheet chess clock on my laptop so can somebody
explain to me how to do the settings to enable macros please? 

I have windows 10 as operating system, and office 2013. 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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QUERY

[anthony borg via Talk]

HI CHRIS 

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION AND HOW RESKI IT MIGHT BE, 

 

INFACT THAT'S WHAT I DID, I DOWNLOADED IT FROM THE INTERNET AND REINSTALLED
IT. 

 

THE ONLY REASON  THAT I WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO SYSTEM RESTORE IS IF IN
CASE I REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE, BUT I HAVE TO BE VERY SURE HOW TO DO IT. 

 

THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A GOOD INSTRUCTIONS OF THE PROCEDURE. 

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP, 

 

ALL THE BEST  

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query

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi folks 

 

I wonder if anyone can help me, 

 

By mistake I uninstalled a program from the list, so now I want to know how
to restore it back to the program list again.  

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony  

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RE: Removing bookmarks in mozilla

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi carol 

I wonder if you can help me, 

I'm noticing that sometimes whenever I downloading something from the
internet such as a program, with the Mozilla, it remains in it's library. 

So can you explain to me what I should do to make the Mozilla download them
in to the download folder please? 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: 26 March 2017 20:09
To: David Crowell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Removing bookmarks in mozilla

OK, I will try to explain this.
First, with Firefox open, press alt plus B (as in Bookmarks.) Next, press
enter on "show all bookmarks."
You will now be in the bookmarks library.
You can right arrow to expand the bookmarks toolbar or the next item down.
In both of these groups, you can now tab to the list of available bookmarks.
 From here, you are on the actual bookmark and can press either the delete
key or the context key and find delete with your down arrow and press enter.
If you tab around enough, you will be put back in the main link you started
it.  Apparently, I don't have any marks in my unsorted bookmarks heading
because I can't expand that one, or there is nothing listed there if I tab.

The primary thing to remember is that you can not delete the bookmarks from
the bookmark menu.

I hope this is easy enough to understand.  If you need other help, you can
write me back and I will see if I can figure out something else.

Carol


On 3/26/2017 1:17 PM, David Crowell via Talk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to delete bookmarks in Mozilla?
>
> I posted this question a few weeks ago and only one person responded 
> and told me to highlight the bookmark by arrowing to it and then push
Delete.
>
> Well that did not work but I know it works in Explorer.
>
> So if anyone can tell me the proper way to delete bookmarks in Mozilla 
> it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Using windows 10 anniversary edition, most current version of Window 
> Eyes and most current version of Mozilla.
>
>   
>
>   
> Dave
>
>   
>
> "Life is too short for drama & petty things, So kiss slowly, laugh 
> insanely, love truly and forgive quickly."
>
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RE: outlook problem anounceing reply

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi all 

Can someone explain to me how to turn on again from the settings the outlook
announcement, as everytime I used to reply an email as soon as I sent it
anounices that the email has been sent and also the time? 

I'm using outlook ms 2013. 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

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Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: 09 April 2017 07:49
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: outlook problem anounceing reply 

Dear Pam,
My attitude completely!
Ivan Cribb

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On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 9 April 2017 7:39 AM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Crossing over to the other side

I won't switch unless and until I have to.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 2:11 PM
To: Charles Adkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dave
Subject: Re: Crossing over to the other side

Why does it seem that so many here are rushing to switch? I understand the
concerns of having outdated technology, but even in a worst case scenario,
WE still works.

On 4/8/2017 12:27 PM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote:
> haven't gone over to the other side yet, waiting to see if any deals 
> come up. Thought about downloading the demo  and playing with it, but 
> I'm not ready to give and yet smile I have heard no good comments at 
> all about the

> jaws tech-support experience. I myself love the window eyes tech-support. 
> that being said, I loved my next-door neighbors old Nash LOL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 8, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Dave via Talk 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, but I too have a "Lack of Cash" issue, and what I have will not
>> be enough to go out and buy the latest edition of JAWS.   
>> I'm going to need to wait for a Super Upgrade Deal coming from VFO to
>> all Window Eyes users.Something like a "Blind Convention" pricing
>> would be nice.
>>
>> Other than that, I too will be using Window Eyes for as long aspossible.
>> I have been slowly learning NVDA, which just does not do everything I 
>> need, but it will have to do if Window Eyes is never updated to keep 
>> up with the Next Windows Versions.
>>
>> I figure I can keep using WE 9.5 for at least another two years, and
>> maybe longer.So VFO has time to do what ever it will do, and NVDA
>> seems to be adjusting and getting more powerful as time goes on.  In 
>> two years, NVDA could be even better.
>>
>> I see no need to worry or panic at this time.
>>
>> Grumpy Dave
>>
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RE: outlook 2013 anouncement problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi chris 

I'm using outlook 2013 and usually when I send a reply email It normally
announces that the email has been sent and even the time when it has been
sent. 

Can you please explain to me what I should do to activate  it again?

Thanks in advance 

Anthony   

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Behalf Of Chris G via Talk
Sent: 07 April 2017 14:33
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Subject: outlook 2013 anouncement problem 

Hi,
Also make sure Outlook Enhance isn't disabled within Outlook.
alt-f, t, A twice, tab 4 times.
Down arrow to disabled and tab to go and press enter.
Next, arrow through, if something like Outlook Enhance is in the list, press
space on it.
Shift-tab to enable and press enter.  Ok or close all dialogs you opened.

Restart outlook.
Chris



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 Original Message 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, Apr 7, 2017 8:27 AM EST
To: Yusuf Osman; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

Hi Yusuf,

Just to be clear, you must reinstall the set files, then the Office Enhance,
and then the Outlook Enhance apps, in this order.
And a reboot is always required after installing Outlook Enhance.

Good luck,

Rod

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Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 6:41 AM
To: Window Eyes Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)

Subject: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

Hi, Up until this morning, when Office updated itself, I was able to press
enter on a message in Outlook2016 and listen to Window Eyes read it
automatically. Since the update this no longer works. I am running the
latest version of WE with the latest Outlook sets and the Outlook Enhanced
App.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might be able to do to get WE
behaving the way I want?

I suppose this might involve waiting for an update to the Outlook Enhanced
App?

I tried restarting my PC and removing and reinstalling both Office Set Files
and the Outlook Enhanced App, and just to be sure the Office Enhanced App.
Yusuf

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RE: WE Saying Invalid Copy

[anthony borg via Talk]

Rick what I suggest  you  to do  is to go to register and fill out that form
and send it to them, if you want to sort out your problem quickly. 

Anthony 
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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: 05 April 2017 16:57
To: 'Larry Higgins' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' 
Subject: RE: WE Saying Invalid Copy

Hi:
I went to the license manager and the pop up said it found a valid copy  of
ou office on my machine.
The only option was to delete it or go to the site to delete it - the
license that is.
Rod said they have trouble with their server but if that was the case I
think allot of others would be posting about the same problem.
Perhaps I will have to call them, sigh.
Rick USA
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From: Larry Higgins [mailto:larryhiggin...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 10:12 AM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: WE Saying Invalid Copy

rick,

Try going to your license management dialog box in the WE help menu. You
should  find an option to revalidate online. Give that a try. It may kick up
and tell you that you have to contact AI Squared, but keep looking for the
option to validate.

This just happened to me a few minutes ago, and has happened before, about a
year ago,  and  luckily, I ran across that set of  options while desperately
looking for help at that time.

Really hope this helps,

Larry


On 4/5/2017 6:22 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> Hi:
> WindowEyes just popped up a message that I have an invalid copy of 
> WindowEyes.
> I have a Office 365 subscription and have never had a problem with 
> neither WindowEyes nor Office 365 so I don't know what is going on.
> The message popped up when I booted up this morning.
> Anyone have any ideas?
> Rick USA
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RE: WE Saying Invalid Copy

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi rick 

That's exactly what have happened to me yesterday. 

Anthony 

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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: 05 April 2017 13:22
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Subject: WE Saying Invalid Copy

Hi:
WindowEyes just popped up a message that I have an invalid copy of
WindowEyes.
I have a Office 365 subscription and have never had a problem with neither
WindowEyes nor Office 365 so I don't know what is going on.
The message popped up when I booted up this morning.
Anyone have any ideas?
Rick USA

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RE: EXPLANATION

[anthony borg via Talk]

HI TOM 

WOULD YOU MIND IF YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT I SHOULD DO TO MAKE CERTAIN
INCOMING EMAILS TO GO DIRECTLY TO A PARTICULAR FOLDER INSTEAD THEY GO IN THE
INBOX WITH THE OTHER EMAILS PLEASE?  

THANKS IN ADVANCE 

ANTHONY 

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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 24 March 2017 01:49
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: EXPLANATION 

Tony,
This sounds more like the alternative functions of the F-keys on your
keyboard got activated. The quickest way to check is to open the Window-Eyes
control panel and press F1. It should open the Window-Eyes manual. You can
also try F6 in IE. It should go from the content window to the address bar.
If these keys do something different or nothing you'll have to figure out
how to get them back on your keyboard.
Hth,
Tom


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> Hello guys, I have an old PC running windows 8.1. I guess some updates 
> came in and Alt F4 no longer closes programs, instead it opens a 
> context menu that  have to use the arrow keys to move to close/exit. 
> Also when on the desktop I used to be able to hit alt f4 and would get 
> the shutdown menu. Now I have to use the mouse keys to get to the 
> start button and right click and use the arrow keys to get to shut 
> down the pc. Anyone know how to change this back??? Tony C 
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RE: moremac information

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hello 

But do you have to have a diferent screen reader installed to read windows
on mac? Or voice over can read it as well? 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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Behalf Of Singing Sparrow via Talk
Sent: 20 March 2017 05:50
To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
; 'Reeva Webb' 
Subject: moremac information 

I like windows but I am leaning more towards a mac because of the things
that people have to go through for windows.

I mean, come on; I mean with the way that window eyes and jaws are competing
with each other even though that VFO has them both under their banner it is
very sad that things have come to this parting of the markets i mean that
since VFO has both jaws, window eyes, magic and zoomtext the markets aren't
going to be very friendly in the long run; and as to a mac you don't have to
worry about if your windows computer goes by the way side that you have to
re-register your copy of windows
10 with a mac all Mac OS versions are free and that the built in screen
reader "voiceover" is totally built into the OS.

that makes a mac a very viable option and yes they are mor expensive then a
window computer but they are built to last; also you can run windows on a
mac as well, so you do have the best of both worlds. 
3/19/2017 2:24 PM, Steve Nutt via Talk wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> I'm with you here.  Even the Chromebook is really getting good now.  If I
> could find a good audio editing program for the Chromebook, I'm almost
done
> with PCs.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: 16 March 2017 06:54
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dennis Long
> 
> Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account
>
> You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had in
the
> past week. We're getting what we wanted for years. We can go into a
> electronics store and buy a iphone, a android phone, a mac, a chromebook
and
> soon windows computers  with accessibility out of the box. You don't have
to
> spend extra money unless you want to.  While what is happening with zt
> fusion, something I spent my own money to buy makes me mad. I'm seriously
> considering just going fully with mainstream products. I find myself using
> my android devices more and pulling out my laptop less.
>
>
> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
> night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho
>
> Reeva
>
> On Mar 16, 2017 1:18 AM, "Dennis Long via Talk"

> wrote:
>
> I agree with you completely!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:12 PM
> To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account
>
> Problem is you i phone users think everyone can use one and can use a
touch
> screen.  They are not for everyone.  I think blind folks fall into that
> worse than any group.  if it works for me, it is great for everyone
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote:
>
>> I really think that in the very near future "adaptive" technology will
>> become a thing of the past. We aren't there yet, but more and more
>> things are becoming voice activated, and voice commanded. The market
>> for such special items as Window-eyes and Jaws is waining. Heck, the I
>> phone out of the box gives the blind user access to GPS, internet
>> searches, txt messageing, etc, without the need of an expensive piece
>> of software that at best in moderately useable. It's just a matter of
> time.
>> -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:05 PM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: Failure to hold VFO to account
>>
>> Greetings all.
>>
>> I've just flicked through the latest edition of Access World from AFB.
>> We are promised CSUN updates in April.
>>
>> In the 21st  Century, and with our accessible technology industry
>> going through significant change, not to mention the demise of the
>> pony express, the failure of someone to get down and dirty with VFO
>> leadership suggests to me that we are being let down by credible
> information sources.
>> Quite reasonably, AFB promotes its sponsorship of the Blind Bargain
>> blogs concerning CSUN events and exhibits, but these don't cut it iehter.
>>
>> One of the disappointing things about services like Apple Vis is that
>> although often people exchange useful information, the leadership
>> fails to critique the shortcomings of Apple with respect to its
>> 

capslock insert problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hello all 

 

I wonder if anyone can help me, evrytime I press the capslock key twice to
use it as an insert function, I noticed that isn't working. 

 

Can somebody explain to me what I should do to restore it back to normal
please? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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skype problem

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi all, 

 

When I be talking on skype I don't know why the other person doesn't hear my
computer speech, it wasn't like that before. 

 

Can somebody explain to me why this is happening? And what I should do to
resolve this problem please? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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RE: Chess Clock credit

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi dave 

I'm so sorry about all this confusion, this is my first experience with
something like this, most probably that's why I couldn't do it. 

Best regards 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+anthonyborg001=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: 18 February 2017 21:40
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Chess Clock credit

Sorry, was focused upon the Security issue, and failed to give credit where
credit is due.  The instructions telling how to use the Chess Clock were
written by someone else.  Although, the style of writing instructions is
very much like my own.  

but these instructions were one of the files available after Un-Zipping
the Excel file.I did write the Warning about the Security, but the
actual instructions telling how to use the Timer was wonderfully done by
someone else who chose not to sign their work.  

Just giving credit where credit is due.  

Grumpy Dave



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RE: Chess Clock Instructions

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi dave 

I do agree with you why I couldn't do the settings, because it is an old
version, 

I tried many times to follow the instructions but it didn't work. 

Many thanks for your help just the same, 

Best regards 

Anthony 

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: 18 February 2017 21:29
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Chess Clock Instructions

Hello Anthony,

Of course you need to Un-Zip this Excel file.Once it is Un-Zipped,
you can Open it in Excel.  To do this, you should move it to where ever
you store all of your Office Documents.Start up Excel and open the
Chess Clock file into Excel.  


WARNING:  I have a suspicion this Chess Clock was made in a much older
version of Excel, perhaps from as far back as Office 97, or 2000, or
2003.   If you happen to have a newer edition from 2007 or newer, the
instructions to change the Security of the file may not be accomplished in
the same way as in earlier versions of Excel.  

Perhaps someone else on the list may know how to lower the Security in newer
editions of Excel?  


Perhaps this is where you are having problems?  



Instructions to use the Excel clock for timing games in the French Skype
tournament

Here is a tutorial about how to use the Excel chess clock  .
of course, you have to have Microsoft Excel running on your Computer to be
able to run this file.
 
After you open the file to start timing a game, You need to go to Security
options to modify it, as Excel automatically prevents this Macro from
working as it suspects it to be a Virus or any harmful file. And since it is
not, here is how you allow running this Macro:
 
1.. open the attached file entitled"ChessClock.xls", and press "ok"
for the message that will appear.
2.. within the Excel WorkSheet, press Alt+T to go to "tools" menu, then
press the litter O to open the "options" multi dialogue box.
3.. keep pressing control + tab until you reach the security tab, or I think
that pressing control +shift +tab once will put you on it.
4.. press Alt+S to activate the "macro security" dialogue box.
5.. press alt+l to activate the "low" radio button, and then move with the
tab key to press "ok".
6.. in this stage, and if you are a JAWS user, JAWS usually hangs up in this
dialogue, so you will need to rout the jaws cursor to the PC cursor, and
press the page down to reach the end of the page, then move with the left
arrow to the "ok" button, and press the left click on it to activate it, and
you are done.
7.. finally, close the file, and open it again, the security dialogue should
not appear, and the file should be running ok now.
 
After you finish timing your game, it is better to "save as" the file to a
new one, just to keep the master file without modifications for your next
games.
Pressing the f12 key should open the "save as" dialogue, give it a new name,
preferably the two players names, and save it.
 
timing the game:
 
when you open the file, The active cell will be 1001 A 1. To start the game,
press control + Shift + w.
White's clock will begin counting down in column c.
2. Type in white's move in the A column then press tab.
Black's clock will begin counting down in column d.
3. After typing in black's move in cell 1001 B, press enter and make the
active cell 1002 A for white's second move. The black's clock should stop
automatically and the white's will run.
4. type the white's second move in 1002A and press tab to stop the white's
clock, activate the black's clock, and to type his move.
 
And so on,
 
To pause the clocks, press control + shift +q.
To restart white's clock use control + shift + w again.
To restart black's clock press control + shift + e.
 
White's time will be displayed in column c.
Black's time will be displayed in column d.
 
If one of the players runs out of time, then the symbol ### appears in the
time Colum and the game is over.

When the game is over, pause the clocks.
 
To copy all the moves, press control+shift+home when you are in the cell
containing the last move of the game.
 
Then, once you paste the moves into a new email or word document, the move
numbers need to be placed in front of each line.
 
Back to the Excel document, and as i mentioned before, you can save the game
as a new file to keep the original file unmodified.
 
A message window will say that both clocks have been stopped, simply press
ok to dismiss it, and proceed with your normal saving steps.
  


These instructions came with the Chess Clock file, and were available once
the file you have is Un-Zipped.  



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VIA TALK WHAT I'M DOING WRONG?

[anthony borg via Talk]

DEAR SIR 

 

I AM ADDRESSING MY EMAILS TO VIA TALK, SO CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT
I'M DOING WRONG? 

 

BEST REGARDS 

 

ANTHONY 

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TALK WINDOW LIST THE USE OF THE CDM

[anthony borg via Talk]

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE USE OF THE CDM?AS THIS IS SOMETHING NEW FOR
ME? 

 

THANKS IN ADVANCE 

 

ANTHONY 

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email programes

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi dave 

 

I've been using outlook 13 ms" for almost 4 years and I found it really
good. 

 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

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I NEED A BETTER EXPLANATION ABOUT CDM

[anthony borg via Talk]

HI ALL 

 

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME MORE FULLY THE USE OF THE COMMAND SHELL WINDOW
AS THIS IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY NEW FOR ME? AND ALSO HOW TO USE IT? 

 

THANKS IN ADVANCE 

 

ANTHONY 

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via talk list excel speadsheet problem,

[anthony borg via Talk]

Dear list 

 

I have a problem of how to use the excel spreadsheet with window-eyes, can
somebody explain to me how to do it please? 

 

If anyone can give me his email address I would really appreciate it. 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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attension to rod grimpy more explanation about cdm

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi rod 

 

Can as these things are completly new for me, can you please explain to me
more fully the use of the command shell window? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony  

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RE: Email programs, Your Choice?

[anthony borg via Talk]

Hi dave 

I've been using outlook ms 13" for almost 4 years and I found it very good. 

Regards 

Anthony 

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Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: 12 January 2017 14:59
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Email programs, Your Choice?

Hello,

For those of you who have used more than one Email program, if you have an
opinion as to which program you like the best, would you share that opinion?


I currently use Becky, and it works, but it has its quirks.  

I used Eudora a very long time, but grew tired of jumping through the
Hoops needed to make it work in the next version of MS Windows.And
the 7.1 version has a few Bugs that never were fixed before the Company
retired Eudora.  

Windows Live Mail is used by some, but Microsoft has just said that Windows
Live Mail will no longer be supported,.  I would still use it, if WLM is
quick and simple to use.  

The Email program that comes in Win 10 is an alternative to Windows Live
Mail.  I have not looked at it yet, but have listened to a video about it.
Kind of a functional no fancy features kind of program.  I might check it
out, providing it works well enough with Window Eyes.

And then there is Thunderbird.  I used Thunderbird about four years ago. 
Had it at work and I never liked it much, especially the Spell Checker.   
I like getting a list of word possibilities, and if I recall, Thunderbird
doesn't give much in the way of a list.  

However, several updates have come and gone since I used it, and so if any
here use Thunderbird and love it.  Tell me why you love it.  
Also The Window Eyes Support for Thunderbird might be better today than in
the past.  I like a program where the Screen Reader allows me to read the
screens well.  Moving around with the Tab key doesn't take me into areas the
Screen Reader doesn't read etc.  


And if there are any Email programs I haven't mentioned, and you use them,
and like them, would you tell me about them as well?  

Thanks for any opinions.  

Grumpy Dave


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