Re: switch to Jaws
Hi, no, I didn't say that at all. The short answer is, if you use Office 2007, 2010, 2013, or 2016, they will all be accessible. I'm sorry for making it sound confusing to you. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/23/2017 2:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Are you saying that accessibility in Office 2013 and 2016 do not work as well as in 2010? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:33 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's up to you on which one you want to use. However, 2016 will have the so-called latest and greatest features. Only you can decide if you want those new features. In terms of accessibility, Office 2010 will work with Jaws 18. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/22/2017 7:59 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Thanks for the information. But now I want to know if Office 2013 and 2016, both work as well as Office 2010, for we blind people? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:22 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I think. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.c
RE: switch to Jaws
Are you saying that accessibility in Office 2013 and 2016 do not work as well as in 2010? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:33 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's up to you on which one you want to use. However, 2016 will have the so-called latest and greatest features. Only you can decide if you want those new features. In terms of accessibility, Office 2010 will work with Jaws 18. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/22/2017 7:59 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: > Thanks for the information. But now I want to know if Office 2013 and 2016, > both work as well as Office 2010, for we blind people? > > Paulette > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:22 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I > think. > > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions > Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 > Office: 832.639.4477 > Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com > Work Email: train...@rgats.com > Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer > > “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David > Thornburg > > On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: >> Raul, >> >> Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? >> >> Paulette >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: switch to Jaws >> >> It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't >> happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on >> Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no >> issues. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions >> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 >> Office: 832.639.4477 >> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com >> Work Email: train...@rgats.com >> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer >> >> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David >> Thornburg >> >> On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. >>> Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped >>> happening. >>> I'm surprised Jaws does this. >>> Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Rod >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>> Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk >>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM >>> To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> >>> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >>> >>> It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or >>> Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >>> Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 >>> To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> >>> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >>> >>> Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >>> On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM >>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >>> Subject: switch to Jaws >>> >>> Hello everybody on the list,
Re: switch to Jaws
It's up to you on which one you want to use. However, 2016 will have the so-called latest and greatest features. Only you can decide if you want those new features. In terms of accessibility, Office 2010 will work with Jaws 18. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/22/2017 7:59 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Thanks for the information. But now I want to know if Office 2013 and 2016, both work as well as Office 2010, for we blind people? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:22 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I think. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. Fo
RE: switch to Jaws
2013 I would say yes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:00 PM To: 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Thanks for the information. But now I want to know if Office 2013 and 2016, both work as well as Office 2010, for we blind people? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:22 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I think. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: > Raul, > > Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? > > Paulette > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't > happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on > Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no > issues. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions > Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 > Office: 832.639.4477 > Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com > Work Email: train...@rgats.com > Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer > > “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David > Thornburg > > On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >> Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. >> Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped >> happening. >> I'm surprised Jaws does this. >> Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rod >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >> Of Steve Nutt via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> >> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >> >> It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or >> Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 >> To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> >> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >> >> Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM >> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >> Subject: switch to Jaws >> >> Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since >> Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where >> you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to >> end? Thanks very much. >> >> >> Charlie Short >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership opti
RE: switch to Jaws
Thanks for the information. But now I want to know if Office 2013 and 2016, both work as well as Office 2010, for we blind people? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:22 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I think. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: > Raul, > > Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? > > Paulette > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't > happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on > Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no > issues. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions > Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 > Office: 832.639.4477 > Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com > Work Email: train...@rgats.com > Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer > > “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David > Thornburg > > On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >> Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. >> Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped >> happening. >> I'm surprised Jaws does this. >> Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rod >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >> Of Steve Nutt via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> >> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >> >> It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or >> Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 >> To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> >> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws >> >> Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM >> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >> Subject: switch to Jaws >> >> Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since >> Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where >> you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to >> end? Thanks very much. >> >> >> Charlie Short >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro >> om.co.uk. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-e
Re: switch to Jaws
Hi, I don't see why not. However, Office 2013 and 2016 will be better I think. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/20/2017 8:33 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership op
Re: switch to Jaws
Hi David, Nothing to be ashamed of. Call yourself "Practical" rather than Cheap, Old Fashioned or Flat Broke. I too have a working XP system, running Window Eyes 8.4, and and several programs that frankly get the job done easier and better than their updated and upgraded offerings. That system is no longer on the Internet, that is why I have this here Windows 10 system. Although, I will have some disagree and roll their eyes, but I am starting to enjoy Windows 10 as much as I like the old Windows XP. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
Guess I would have to ask what you mean by "Secure". I would say it as secure as any other program on the System. The Average System suffers more from its Operator, than from any attack from outside the system. Sure, there are Viruses, and Malware, and if you are careless, and some what Unlucky, you may fall to such a thing. My observations over the years is that many System troubles are not caused by Viruses, or Malware, but from some mishap caused by the System owner, or someone they allowed to use the System. Again, I am not saying that Viruses and other Bad Malware doesn't exist, but when the normal precautions are taken, violations from such Beasts are not usually the cause of System problems. So if Microsoft will Authenticate your Copy of Office 2003, then by all means, use it. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Yes, using the old with the new is the best experience. For example, I have a Windows XP computer hiding in the closet LOL! I use JAWS 13 on it, and I use programs on that computer that I cannot use on my win10 computers LOL! I am afraid to tell people this on other lists, because I might be a sinner in their eyes LOL! I love windows 10 and JAWS 18, but I can get certain jobs done better with the XP computer and JAWS 13 some times LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:39 PM To: 'Dave'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws You know, blind folks make a lot of farce about their screen readers not working with this app and that app. I still run Office 2007 Ultimate, no plans for any Office upgrade. I am able to read any Office documents sent my way despite the fact that I am NOT running the best and the greatest so to speak! And, yes, I won't ever subscribe to Office365. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado I read --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Well, are you experiencing any issues with Office 2003? If the answer is NO, I believe in leaving what's working great alone! It's a huge reason why I still run Windows XP Pro on my computers despite the noise about ZERO support, et al! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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You know, blind folks make a lot of farce about their screen readers not working with this app and that app. I still run Office 2007 Ultimate, no plans for any Office upgrade. I am able to read any Office documents sent my way despite the fact that I am NOT running the best and the greatest so to speak! And, yes, I won't ever subscribe to Office365. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado I read --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I scan just MS office with Mal ware bytes and Windows Defender. You can scan just one program if you want. It is always secure when I do a scan on just MS office 2003. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Don H via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:26 PM To: Dave via Talk Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I am currently using MS Office 2003 however Microsoft no longer supports or updates this product so I am wondering if it is secure. On 5/20/2017 6:19 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > Nothing wrong with MS > Word 2003. It is my Favorite edition of MS Word, if I had to pick one. > > Grumpy Dave > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Hey Dave! I agree LOL! It is so much easier to use, and you still get great documents! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:19 PM To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Nothing wrong with MS Word 2003. It is my Favorite edition of MS Word, if I had to pick one. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I am currently using MS Office 2003 however Microsoft no longer supports or updates this product so I am wondering if it is secure. On 5/20/2017 6:19 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: Nothing wrong with MS Word 2003. It is my Favorite edition of MS Word, if I had to pick one. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Nothing wrong with MS Word 2003. It is my Favorite edition of MS Word, if I had to pick one. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I'm using Jaws 18 with microsoft office 2003. lol -Original Message- From: David Moore via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:01 PM To: Paulette Vickery ; Window-Eyes DiscussionList Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Hi, JAWS 18 works very well with Office 2010! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not
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While I'm not Raul the answer to your question is yes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:01 PM To: Paulette Vickery; Window-Eyes DiscussionList Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Hi, JAWS 18 works very well with Office 2010! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. > Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped > happening. > I'm surprised Jaws does this. > Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? > > Thanks, > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM > To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or > Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. > > All the best > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 > To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: switch to Jaws > > Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since > Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where > you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to > end? Thanks very much. > > > Charlie Short > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 > gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author &g
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Hi, JAWS 18 works very well with Office 2010! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. > Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped > happening. > I'm surprised Jaws does this. > Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? > > Thanks, > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM > To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or > Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. > > All the best > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 > To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: switch to Jaws > > Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since > Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where > you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to > end? Thanks very much. > > > Charlie Short > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 > gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archive
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Raul, Can I use Office 2010 when using Jaws 18? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. > Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped > happening. > I'm surprised Jaws does this. > Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? > > Thanks, > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM > To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or > Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. > > All the best > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 > To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: switch to Jaws > > Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: switch to Jaws > > Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since > Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where > you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to > end? Thanks very much. > > > Charlie Short > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 > gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squar
Re: switch to Jaws
yes that's true, move on, but to what, there is not much choice in the world. were does your quote come from? beneath your message? aad On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:18:37 -0500 Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: > Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs, scripting > cost etc. but offer is real. Take it if you want, move on if you don't. > > "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised > night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho > > Reeva > > On May 16, 2017 12:24 AM, "Armando Maldonado via Talk" < > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > > And to add to my previous email, here's the podcast I encourage everyone > > to listen to and maybe you'll understand the whole concept why VFO did what > > they did. Thanks. > > http://getwindoweyes.com/migrate/WEPresentation-2017-0508.mp3 > > - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" < > > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > > To: "Bryan Peterson" ; "Window-Eyes > > Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:54 PM > > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > > > > > Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This > >> is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes > >> at VFO. > >> > >> Now for the list. > >> > >> > >> > >> I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO > >> released its official announcement. > >> > >> I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about > >> to describe - I was not paid. > >> > >> Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was > >> shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - > >> Chief Executive or similar. > >> > >> Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO > >> encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions > >> etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received > >> constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 > >> minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. > >> > >> > >> I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is > >> discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list > >> member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. > >> > >> Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your > >> right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people > >> liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of > >> long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for > >> doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this > >> industry. > >> > >> Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its > >> conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > >> > >>> I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > >>> the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. > >>> As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty > >>> sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free > >>> copies > >>> of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch > >>> to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a > >>> demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an > >>> absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it > >>> before switching to WE. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > >>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > >>> Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > >>> > >>> I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > >>> and ta
Re: switch to Jaws
Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs, scripting cost etc. but offer is real. Take it if you want, move on if you don't. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On May 16, 2017 12:24 AM, "Armando Maldonado via Talk" < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > And to add to my previous email, here's the podcast I encourage everyone > to listen to and maybe you'll understand the whole concept why VFO did what > they did. Thanks. > http://getwindoweyes.com/migrate/WEPresentation-2017-0508.mp3 > - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" < > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > To: "Bryan Peterson" ; "Window-Eyes > Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > > Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This >> is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes >> at VFO. >> >> Now for the list. >> >> >> >> I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO >> released its official announcement. >> >> I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about >> to describe - I was not paid. >> >> Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was >> shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - >> Chief Executive or similar. >> >> Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO >> encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions >> etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? >> >> >> >> >> Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received >> constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 >> minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. >> >> >> I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is >> discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list >> member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. >> >> Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your >> right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people >> liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of >> long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for >> doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this >> industry. >> >> Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its >> conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. >> >> >> >> On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: >> >>> I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at >>> the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. >>> As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty >>> sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies >>> of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch >>> to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a >>> demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an >>> absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it >>> before switching to WE. >>> >>> >>> >>> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: switch to Jaws >>> >>> I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better >>> and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! >>> >>> >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net >>> >>> On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >>> >>>> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not >>>> going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to >>>> something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of >>>> what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and >>>> developping it. >>>> 73 >>>> Butch >>>> WA0VJR >>>&
Re: switch to Jaws
And to add to my previous email, here's the podcast I encourage everyone to listen to and maybe you'll understand the whole concept why VFO did what they did. Thanks. http://getwindoweyes.com/migrate/WEPresentation-2017-0508.mp3 - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" To: "Bryan Peterson" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:54 PM Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes at VFO. Now for the list. I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO released its official announcement. I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about to describe - I was not paid. Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - Chief Executive or similar. Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this industry. Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/armando.maldonado0767%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists
Re: switch to Jaws
I agree with Mr. Vaughan. Before everyone starts fighting like kids here for no reason, go pay a listen to the podcast he's refering to. Most if not all of your questions are answered there, as well as there are two folks, one of them being Vaughan who give their viewpoints in regards to this. alot of this bickering and nonsense is getting anyone no where. VFO made decision to pull the plug, you can take it or leave it when it comes to the jaws offer, simple as that. Great contribution you did Vaughan an keep up the good work. Armando - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" To: "Bryan Peterson" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:54 PM Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes at VFO. Now for the list. I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO released its official announcement. I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about to describe - I was not paid. Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - Chief Executive or similar. Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this industry. Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___
RE: switch to Jaws
Hello Vaughn. Who else is on FSCast with you and Jonathan? Is Doug and Aaron on there? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:55 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes at VFO. Now for the list. I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO released its official announcement. I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about to describe - I was not paid. Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - Chief Executive or similar. Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this industry. Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have > to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm > pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone > free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen > reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because > I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I > buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that > from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! > > > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net > > On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not >> going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch >> to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will >> do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop >> selling and developping it. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vod afone.co.nz. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership
Re: switch to Jaws
Brian: firstly - I'm reinforcing the points which others have made. This is not a scam, and Doug and Aaron continue to lead support for Window-eyes at VFO. Now for the list. I agreed with VFO (verbally) that I would not discuss this until VFO released its official announcement. I was not coerced into any such agreement, and for the events i'm about to describe - I was not paid. Some of you may remember that my third attempt at contactingt VFO was shared with the list. I asked for my email to go to a senior person - Chief Executive or similar. Now: way back when, as early as July or August, staffers at VFO encouraged us to write to VFO expressing our concerns, raising suggestions etc. How many did that? And unlike me - how many of you were persistent? Several days after sending my third email mentioned above, I received constructive email feedback from Eric Damery, anbd we skyped for about 45 minutes so that VFO could be assured that I would accept its offer. I was pleased to contribute to the latest FS Cast, in which this offer is discussed, and i've commented on my early experiences with JAWS. A list member took the time to thank me for taking a stand. Brian and others: if you want to believe this is a scam - it is your right to do so. However: you cannot get away with calling people liars. In fact: I am satisfied that Doug fought the good fight on behalf of long serving Window-Eyes customers. He at least should be respected for doing so. Doug and Aaron seem likely to be continuing to work in this industry. Taking up the offer is voluntary and in the short term, if you meet its conditions, JFW won't cost you a thing. On 5/16/2017 3:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Previous versions are able pricing will differ. See pricing info for details. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:36 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws What version of WE will convert to Jaws?? Only the most recent version or previous versions eligible? thanks Have a great day! Bob Hicks -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bob=seeinghandassociation@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Brenda, There are no immediate plans on shutting down this list. However, I would ask members to keep the topics related to VFO products in order to keep the list going. Regards, Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:36 PM To: Bryan Peterson via Talk Subject: Re: switch to Jaws doug and/or Aaron will this list be maintained?It is still very valuable. I wish you the best going forward. Brian, If you don't believe Aaron or Doug, give VFO a call and see for yourself. Aaron and Doug would not scam us. Darrel, times change, and I doubt Doug and Dan and Aaron would have merged with AI Squared if they didn't think it would be a good move with the screen reader market as it is. I doubt they knew AI squared would merge with VFO. Nonetheless, this is where we are at, and at least VFO is letting us migrate to a usuable screen reader that will be developed. and List...Window-eyes is still the best screen reader for some programs. I can't seem to access all of Vipre with jaws although with Window-eyes I can access Vipre. And please don't leave this list -there are still questions to be helped with and it is good to read everyone's posts. Brenda On 5/15/2017 11:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have > to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm > pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone > free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen > reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because > I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I > buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that > from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message----- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! > > > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net > > On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not >> going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch >> to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will >> do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop >> selling and developping it. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40winds tream.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
RE: switch to Jaws
You can it will cost $240 I believe. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:56 PM To: Raul A. Gallegos; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Well I do have one, albeit not a current one, so I can't take advantage of this. It's still back in 8.4. But for some reason I'm unable to download a demo of JFW to see if I can justify scraping together the funds for it. I've tried with both IE and Firefox and the download gets to a certain point, usually one where it still says 0 percent downloaded, and just stops there for a while before failing. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Bryan, it's too bad you feel this way. I think that perhaps you are associating Jaws with Freedom Scientific, meaning that if there were things that Freedom Scientific did, not VFO, you might be thinking that all the same bad experiences may happen again, or continue to happen. In any case, it's not FS, (Freedom Scientific) who is giving out free copies of Jaws. So, you are right about that. It's VFO who is doing this. can tell you that this is no scam. If you hold a retail license of Window-Eyes, you will get a license for Jaws. Maybe you think that the folks from the former GW Micro / Ai Squared are lying? I don't think so. *smile*. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 10:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have > to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm > pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone > free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen > reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because > I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I > buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that > from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
What version of WE will convert to Jaws?? Only the most recent version or previous versions eligible? thanks Have a great day! Bob Hicks -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bob=seeinghandassociation@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Brenda, There are no immediate plans on shutting down this list. However, I would ask members to keep the topics related to VFO products in order to keep the list going. Regards, Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:36 PM To: Bryan Peterson via Talk Subject: Re: switch to Jaws doug and/or Aaron will this list be maintained?It is still very valuable. I wish you the best going forward. Brian, If you don't believe Aaron or Doug, give VFO a call and see for yourself. Aaron and Doug would not scam us. Darrel, times change, and I doubt Doug and Dan and Aaron would have merged with AI Squared if they didn't think it would be a good move with the screen reader market as it is. I doubt they knew AI squared would merge with VFO. Nonetheless, this is where we are at, and at least VFO is letting us migrate to a usuable screen reader that will be developed. and List...Window-eyes is still the best screen reader for some programs. I can't seem to access all of Vipre with jaws although with Window-eyes I can access Vipre. And please don't leave this list -there are still questions to be helped with and it is good to read everyone's posts. Brenda On 5/15/2017 11:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have > to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm > pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone > free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen > reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because > I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I > buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that > from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! > > > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net > > On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not >> going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch >> to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will >> do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop >> selling and developping it. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40winds tream.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgeoffray%40vf ogroup.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com __
Downloading jaws Re: switch to Jaws
Hey Brian Maybe the server is just busy. I remember for past Window-eyes updates I would wait a few hours or a day or two until everyone had gotten their downloads and then the W-e upgrade would download nicely. (Oh, that makes meso sad to remember those days - must move forwazrd). brenda On 5/15/2017 12:55 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: Well I do have one, albeit not a current one, so I can't take advantage of this. It's still back in 8.4. But for some reason I'm unable to download a demo of JFW to see if I can justify scraping together the funds for it. I've tried with both IE and Firefox and the download gets to a certain point, usually one where it still says 0 percent downloaded, and just stops there for a while before failing. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Bryan, it's too bad you feel this way. I think that perhaps you are associating Jaws with Freedom Scientific, meaning that if there were things that Freedom Scientific did, not VFO, you might be thinking that all the same bad experiences may happen again, or continue to happen. In any case, it's not FS, (Freedom Scientific) who is giving out free copies of Jaws. So, you are right about that. It's VFO who is doing this. can tell you that this is no scam. If you hold a retail license of Window-Eyes, you will get a license for Jaws. Maybe you think that the folks from the former GW Micro / Ai Squared are lying? I don't think so. *smile*. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 10:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
Well I do have one, albeit not a current one, so I can't take advantage of this. It's still back in 8.4. But for some reason I'm unable to download a demo of JFW to see if I can justify scraping together the funds for it. I've tried with both IE and Firefox and the download gets to a certain point, usually one where it still says 0 percent downloaded, and just stops there for a while before failing. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws Bryan, it's too bad you feel this way. I think that perhaps you are associating Jaws with Freedom Scientific, meaning that if there were things that Freedom Scientific did, not VFO, you might be thinking that all the same bad experiences may happen again, or continue to happen. In any case, it's not FS, (Freedom Scientific) who is giving out free copies of Jaws. So, you are right about that. It's VFO who is doing this. can tell you that this is no scam. If you hold a retail license of Window-Eyes, you will get a license for Jaws. Maybe you think that the folks from the former GW Micro / Ai Squared are lying? I don't think so. *smile*. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 10:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Brenda, There are no immediate plans on shutting down this list. However, I would ask members to keep the topics related to VFO products in order to keep the list going. Regards, Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:36 PM To: Bryan Peterson via Talk Subject: Re: switch to Jaws doug and/or Aaron will this list be maintained?It is still very valuable. I wish you the best going forward. Brian, If you don't believe Aaron or Doug, give VFO a call and see for yourself. Aaron and Doug would not scam us. Darrel, times change, and I doubt Doug and Dan and Aaron would have merged with AI Squared if they didn't think it would be a good move with the screen reader market as it is. I doubt they knew AI squared would merge with VFO. Nonetheless, this is where we are at, and at least VFO is letting us migrate to a usuable screen reader that will be developed. and List...Window-eyes is still the best screen reader for some programs. I can't seem to access all of Vipre with jaws although with Window-eyes I can access Vipre. And please don't leave this list -there are still questions to be helped with and it is good to read everyone's posts. Brenda On 5/15/2017 11:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at > the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have > to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm > pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone > free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen > reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because > I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I > buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that > from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! > > > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net > > On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not >> going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch >> to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will >> do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop >> selling and developping it. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgeoffray%40vfogroup.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
doug and/or Aaron will this list be maintained?It is still very valuable. I wish you the best going forward. Brian, If you don't believe Aaron or Doug, give VFO a call and see for yourself. Aaron and Doug would not scam us. Darrel, times change, and I doubt Doug and Dan and Aaron would have merged with AI Squared if they didn't think it would be a good move with the screen reader market as it is. I doubt they knew AI squared would merge with VFO. Nonetheless, this is where we are at, and at least VFO is letting us migrate to a usuable screen reader that will be developed. and List...Window-eyes is still the best screen reader for some programs. I can't seem to access all of Vipre with jaws although with Window-eyes I can access Vipre. And please don't leave this list -there are still questions to be helped with and it is good to read everyone's posts. Brenda On 5/15/2017 11:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Hi, I'm on Windows 10 and Office 365 with JAWS is flaky at best for me. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: 15 May 2017 16:39 To: 'Rod Hutton' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws I disagree with Steve on this one. I use JAWS v18 at work as a Help Desk Analyst and I have switched via CTRL-2 to CTRL-1 and so on and JAWS does not crash. There are other issues regarding losing focus at times but I've observed these in Window-Eyes as well so I'm curious if these are Windows issues at the moment particularly in Windows 7. I still prefer Window-Eyes and I will use it until it ceases to function. I actually have the free version on my work PC and glad I was able to obtain it prior to today. Good luck to everyone as we undergo this transition. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:49 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists
RE: switch to Jaws
Hi, It is certainly not a scam. Aaron is an employee of VFO. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: 15 May 2017 16:15 To: Bob Tinney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not > going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch > to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do > much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling > and developping it. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
Bryan, it's too bad you feel this way. I think that perhaps you are associating Jaws with Freedom Scientific, meaning that if there were things that Freedom Scientific did, not VFO, you might be thinking that all the same bad experiences may happen again, or continue to happen. In any case, it's not FS, (Freedom Scientific) who is giving out free copies of Jaws. So, you are right about that. It's VFO who is doing this. can tell you that this is no scam. If you hold a retail license of Window-Eyes, you will get a license for Jaws. Maybe you think that the folks from the former GW Micro / Ai Squared are lying? I don't think so. *smile*. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 10:14 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
It's unfortunate this is happening to Steve's setup. However, it doesn't happen to me. I'm using Jaws current 18 and Office 2016 current on Windows 10 and can switch between mail, contacts, and calendars with no issues. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/15/2017 8:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Wonder if I can at some point speak to you about switching to jaws 18 as I have never used it in my life. I would definitely probably get the pro version since I would have to use it at work and since I have 2 sma's might as well get the pro and use it at home and work. My contact info work 212-8021633 8:00 am 4:00pm edt. My home number 7182387130 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:39 AM To: 'Rod Hutton' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws I disagree with Steve on this one. I use JAWS v18 at work as a Help Desk Analyst and I have switched via CTRL-2 to CTRL-1 and so on and JAWS does not crash. There are other issues regarding losing focus at times but I've observed these in Window-Eyes as well so I'm curious if these are Windows issues at the moment particularly in Windows 7. I still prefer Window-Eyes and I will use it until it ceases to function. I actually have the free version on my work PC and glad I was able to obtain it prior to today. Good luck to everyone as we undergo this transition. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:49 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions pre
RE: switch to Jaws
I disagree with Steve on this one. I use JAWS v18 at work as a Help Desk Analyst and I have switched via CTRL-2 to CTRL-1 and so on and JAWS does not crash. There are other issues regarding losing focus at times but I've observed these in Window-Eyes as well so I'm curious if these are Windows issues at the moment particularly in Windows 7. I still prefer Window-Eyes and I will use it until it ceases to function. I actually have the free version on my work PC and glad I was able to obtain it prior to today. Good luck to everyone as we undergo this transition. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:49 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
Um, we dead officially. The jfw offer is real, whether you decide to take it is your choice. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On May 15, 2017 10:14 AM, "Bryan Peterson via Talk" < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the > same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As > for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure > it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of > JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to > it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a > demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an > absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it > before switching to WE. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message----- From: Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: switch to Jaws > > I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better > and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! > > > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net > > On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > >> I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going >> to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to >> something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of >> what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and >> developping it. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
I know this is difficult for us all to accept as we're very loyal to Window-Eyes. However, this is not a scam. I have known Aaron Smith and worked closely with him to beta test Window-Eyes in the past. I have also received an acknowledgement from VFO per my own request to migrate. It is a sad realization for us all. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:15 AM To: Bob Tinney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not > going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch > to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do > much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling > and developping it. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
I'm not altogether optimistic about the future of Window-Eyes, but at the same time I'm not going to stop using it unless I absolutely have to. As for this supposed offer of free copies of JFW for WE users I'm pretty sure it's a scam. I have a hard time imagining FS giving anyone free copies of JAWS under any circumstances. As for which screen reader I might switch to it probably wouldn't be JAWS, partly because I can't seem to download a demo of the latest version to try before I buy, but also because it's an absolute resource hog. I remember that from the twelve years I used it before switching to WE. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Hi Steve, Up to quite recently, Window-Eyes used to do that as well. Since Microsoft made some significant accessibility updates, this stopped happening. I'm surprised Jaws does this. Is this with the most recent version of Jaws? Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:39 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Hi Bob, Well, there's no need to let ButchTimer stop you from switching to another screen reader. In fact, I'm planning to migrate all of my apps to stand-alone programs, that is, they could be run with any screen reader, at least those apps which people want to continue to use with other screen readers. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: switch to Jaws I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not > going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch > to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do > much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling > and developping it. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
It's also very buggy. Just open Outlook 2016 and press Control-2 or Control-3 to go into Contacts or Calendar and watch JAWS die. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 14 May 2017 23:30 To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
I'm not planning on switching to Jaws any time soon! We works better and takes less overhead! And, I like the Butch timer app too! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
I’m not saying that. From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 6:34 PM To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Sky Mundell' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws If you do get a offer to switch to JAWS free, it won’t hurt. You can install it and it will co-exist with Window-eyes and you can just decide which program you want to start up with. Then, you can switch between the two if you like the way Window-Eyes acts with a particular program. But, again, I wouldn’t just say to throw your copy of Window-Eyes out the window, pardon the expression. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Dennis Long via Talk <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 6:22 PM To: 'Sky Mundell' <mailto:s...@shaw.ca> ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Jaws is very customizable if they give you the offer like that one person said you should absolutely take it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:56 PM To: 'Charles Short'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Lets just wait and see what happens. There is no official announcement yet about what is going to happen to Window-Eyes. Its all just speculation. That is what it is. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:53 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
If you do get a offer to switch to JAWS free, it won’t hurt. You can install it and it will co-exist with Window-eyes and you can just decide which program you want to start up with. Then, you can switch between the two if you like the way Window-Eyes acts with a particular program. But, again, I wouldn’t just say to throw your copy of Window-Eyes out the window, pardon the expression. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 6:22 PM To: 'Sky Mundell'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Jaws is very customizable if they give you the offer like that one person said you should absolutely take it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:56 PM To: 'Charles Short'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Lets just wait and see what happens. There is no official announcement yet about what is going to happen to Window-Eyes. Its all just speculation. That is what it is. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:53 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Yes Jaws is very customizable I would make the switch. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Jaws is very customizable if they give you the offer like that one person said you should absolutely take it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:56 PM To: 'Charles Short'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: switch to Jaws Lets just wait and see what happens. There is no official announcement yet about what is going to happen to Window-Eyes. Its all just speculation. That is what it is. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:53 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
I agree, unless a technology comes along that Window-eyes 9.5 simply will not handle, I see absolutely no reason to just quit using a program that I know works. That's kind of like Winamp. I've been using Winamp for almost 20 years and it hasn't seen much active development lately, but I still keep using it because it does everything I need it to do, and it does it very well. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. On 5/14/2017 4:47 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 14 May 2017, Charles Short via Talk wrote: Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
I plan to keep using window-eyes as long as it works. They're not going to make it diappear. If it gets to a point where I must switch to something else, I'll go with n v d a. I suspect window-eyes will do much of what I need it to do for some time even if they stop selling and developping it. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 14 May 2017, Charles Short via Talk wrote: Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
Most definitely, because for the foreseeable future, it is being developed. However: be prepared for something of a learning curve. Lots of help and training resources. Verbosity can be highly customised, but perhaps not as easily as with Window-eyes. A major part of learning JAWS are its tutor messages, which prompt for keys to activate as part of getting the job done. And if you are learning specific applications, you can create your own custom tutor messages. The main training resource is in the form of a daisy structured component within JAWS. And you can buy extra stuff as well - although I haven't. Best. Vaughan. On 5/15/2017 6:52 AM, Charles Short via Talk wrote: Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Hi: If Window-Eyes is doing what you want, use it all you want, for now. Even if there is an announcement about phasing it out, it shouldn’t be obsolete any time soon. Just keep an eye out for things like Edge support. There will be a time when you’ll need support for the Edge browser. I wouldn’t be in a hurry to switch until that comes to fruition. Again, if it’s working for you, keep using it for all it’s worth. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:52 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: switch to Jaws
Lets just wait and see what happens. There is no official announcement yet about what is going to happen to Window-Eyes. Its all just speculation. That is what it is. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:53 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: switch to Jaws Hello everybody on the list, should I make the switch to Jaws since Window-Eyes is going away? Does Jaws have a control panel, you know where you can allow jaws to not say blank when arrowing down or also from read to end? Thanks very much. Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
