Re: Word 2016 questions
Thanks for your reply, tom. As you see, I am behind in my email again, grin. Carol On 5/19/2018 5:07 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Yes, Thunderbird is a strange beast. They made some changes years ago that screen readers had to work around in order to get into the windows. So nothing really works conventionally there. That was when we lost the mouse in TB as well. Actually there's no difference in how the Window-Eyes attribute hot key works from computer to computer. It's dependent on what's selected under verbosity. I had most turned off for some reason. And now that I've turned them back on it's a one shot deal. So this was a win win situation. Smile. Regards, Tom On 5/19/2018 12:00 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks. As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes. At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help. Carol On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, and color. You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all rather than current document radio button, and OK. This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't change existing documents you open. As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and off. You should hear that spoken. To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them global or program specific. Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's not global. Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. Hth, Tom On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi, I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the answer to a couple of questions. First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would like to make certain that my work is always done with a white background and black characters. Of course, I understand the background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the information in from the clipboard. If I do not do it this way, sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is only one line of the address that gets printed. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those
Re: Word 2016 questions
Hi Carol, Yes, Thunderbird is a strange beast. They made some changes years ago that screen readers had to work around in order to get into the windows. So nothing really works conventionally there. That was when we lost the mouse in TB as well. Actually there's no difference in how the Window-Eyes attribute hot key works from computer to computer. It's dependent on what's selected under verbosity. I had most turned off for some reason. And now that I've turned them back on it's a one shot deal. So this was a win win situation. Smile. Regards, Tom On 5/19/2018 12:00 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks. As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes. At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help. Carol On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, and color. You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all rather than current document radio button, and OK. This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't change existing documents you open. As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and off. You should hear that spoken. To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them global or program specific. Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's not global. Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. Hth, Tom On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi, I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the answer to a couple of questions. First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would like to make certain that my work is always done with a white background and black characters. Of course, I understand the background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the information in from the clipboard. If I do not do it this way, sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is only one line of the address that gets printed. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi
Re: Word 2016 questions
Hi Rod, I checked out your suggestion. I don't know what I expected to hear, but when WE said that I was not on a clip, I tried it again and was surprised to hear that there was a white mouse on my computer, grin. Thanks for this. I did figure out that I forgot to route the mouse. Carol On 5/19/2018 3:54 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Another hot key, comparable to that suggested by Tom, is Ctrl-Insert-NumpadDelete, which does the same thing as Tom's, except that it works for the colour of the pixel under the mouse pointer. As such, it might help in situations where there is a graphical unit of focus, and so you could always just route the mouse pointer to the current focus using Insert-NumpadPlus, and then use the key I have recommended. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: Word 2016 questions Hi Tom, This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks. As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes. At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help. Carol On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, and color. You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all rather than current document radio button, and OK. This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't change existing documents you open. As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and off. You should hear that spoken. To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them global or program specific. Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's not global. Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. Hth, Tom On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi, I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the answer to a couple of questions. First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would like to make certain that my work is always done with a white background and black characters. Of course, I understand the background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the information in
RE: Word 2016 questions
Hi Carol, Another hot key, comparable to that suggested by Tom, is Ctrl-Insert-NumpadDelete, which does the same thing as Tom's, except that it works for the colour of the pixel under the mouse pointer. As such, it might help in situations where there is a graphical unit of focus, and so you could always just route the mouse pointer to the current focus using Insert-NumpadPlus, and then use the key I have recommended. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: Word 2016 questions Hi Tom, This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks. As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes. At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help. Carol On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Hi Carol, > > The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme > with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on > by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks > the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, > and color. > > You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare > and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, > and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless > tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I > selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of > which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. > But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, > press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the > color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all > rather than current document radio button, and OK. > This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't > change existing documents you open. > > As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and > off. You should hear that spoken. > To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, > attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them > global or program specific. > Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's > not global. > > Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. > > Hth, > Tom > > > On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the >> answer to a couple of questions. >> >> First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would >> like to make certain that my work is always done with a white >> background and black characters. Of course, I understand the >> background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. >> >> Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute >> changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? >> >> My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send >> to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly >> labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is >> blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I >> must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open >> the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a >> to clear anything in the box
Re: Word 2016 questions
Hi Tom, This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks. As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes. At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help. Carol On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, and color. You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all rather than current document radio button, and OK. This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't change existing documents you open. As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and off. You should hear that spoken. To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them global or program specific. Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's not global. Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. Hth, Tom On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi, I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the answer to a couple of questions. First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would like to make certain that my work is always done with a white background and black characters. Of course, I understand the background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the information in from the clipboard. If I do not do it this way, sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is only one line of the address that gets printed. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo
Re: Word 2016 questions
Hi Carol, The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, and color. You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up. But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all rather than current document radio button, and OK. This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't change existing documents you open. As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and off. You should hear that spoken. To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them global or program specific. Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's not global. Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem. Hth, Tom On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi, I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the answer to a couple of questions. First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would like to make certain that my work is always done with a white background and black characters. Of course, I understand the background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on. Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents? My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the information in from the clipboard. If I do not do it this way, sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is only one line of the address that gets printed. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
