RE: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:32 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Richard,


Sorry I couldn't go further toward helping you to  solving your issue. 
However what Tom and I suggested might do the trick. But if your IT guy is 
offering to reimage, then you can't get any better than that,  though that 
might be a bit drastic, but go for it nevertheless.



I tried renaming the Default folder, and had to go through a reinstallation of 
apps, but it did work for me.

Good luck,

Larry


On 6/4/2018 10:20 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> Told my it guy about it and also other problems and he said he  is going to 
> reimage my machine  with a later build, hope that will work, since don't have 
> that problem at home.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:15 AM
> To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
> Cc: Tom Kingston 
> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>
> Just go to the folder via the file menu, Explore profile folder in the WE 
> control panel. Then Control+Insert+F4 or Alt+Tab back to WE and shut it down. 
> Then run Narrator and make the change.
>
> On 6/4/2018 10:01 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>> I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can 
>> call me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633 
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
>> To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
>> Cc: Larry Higgins 
>> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>>
>> Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
>> folder.
>>
>>
>> On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>>> Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call 
>>> me at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of David via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: David 
>>> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>>>
>>> Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
>>> Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You 
>>> Ctrl+now
>>> are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, 
>>> you will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole 
>>> folder, and do your renaming if you so desire.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
>>>> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the 
>>>> following command at the Run dialog:
>>>>
>>>> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>>>>
>>>> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
>>>> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, 
>>>> which is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the 
>>>> characters .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom 
>>>> suggests.
>>>>
>>>> Hth,
>>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>>>> >>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>>>> >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>>>> >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>>>> >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>>>> >it if you reboot and open the control panel with n

Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Richard,


Sorry I couldn't go further toward helping you to  solving your issue. 
However what Tom and I suggested might do the trick. But if your IT guy 
is offering to reimage, then you can't get any better than that,  though 
that might be a bit drastic, but go for it nevertheless.




I tried renaming the Default folder, and had to go through a 
reinstallation of apps, but it did work for me.


Good luck,

Larry


On 6/4/2018 10:20 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

Told my it guy about it and also other problems and he said he  is going to 
reimage my machine  with a later build, hope that will work, since don't have 
that problem at home.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:15 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Just go to the folder via the file menu, Explore profile folder in the WE 
control panel. Then Control+Insert+F4 or Alt+Tab back to WE and shut it down. 
Then run Narrator and make the change.

On 6/4/2018 10:01 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can call 
me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
folder.


On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
and do your renaming if you so desire.


On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Richard,

The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
command at the Run dialog:

%appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users

The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which is 
the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters .Bak to 
the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for the Mac

On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
 wrote:

where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>and reinstall WE.
>Tom
>
>
>On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
&

RE: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Told my it guy about it and also other problems and he said he  is going to 
reimage my machine  with a later build, hope that will work, since don't have 
that problem at home.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:15 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Just go to the folder via the file menu, Explore profile folder in the WE 
control panel. Then Control+Insert+F4 or Alt+Tab back to WE and shut it down. 
Then run Narrator and make the change.

On 6/4/2018 10:01 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can 
> call me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
> To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
> Cc: Larry Higgins 
> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
> 
> Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
> folder.
> 
> 
> On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>> Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call 
>> me at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of David via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Cc: David 
>> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>>
>> Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
>> Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
>> are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
>> will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole 
>> folder, and do your renaming if you so desire.
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
>>> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
>>> command at the Run dialog:
>>>
>>> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>>>
>>> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
>>> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, 
>>> which is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the 
>>> characters .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom 
>>> suggests.
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>>>
>>> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>>> >> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>>>>Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>>>>It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>>>>panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>>>>Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>>>>it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>>>>open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>>>>default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>>>>That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>>>>and reinstall WE.
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>>>>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>>>>>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>>>>>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>>>>>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>>>>>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>>>>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>>>>>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>>>&g

Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Just go to the folder via the file menu, Explore profile folder in the 
WE control panel. Then Control+Insert+F4 or Alt+Tab back to WE and shut 
it down. Then run Narrator and make the change.


On 6/4/2018 10:01 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can call 
me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
folder.


On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
and do your renaming if you so desire.


On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Richard,

The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
command at the Run dialog:

%appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users

The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which is 
the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters .Bak to 
the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for the Mac

On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
 wrote:

   where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
   >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
   >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
   >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
   >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
   >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
   >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
   >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
   >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
   >and reinstall WE.
   >Tom
   >
   >
   >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
   >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
   >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
   >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
   >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
   >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
   >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
   >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
   >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
   >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
   >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
   >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
   >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
   >>>Hth,
   >>>Tom
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
   >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
   >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
   >>>>you press enter twice.
   >>>>___
   >>>>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of
   >>>>the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
   >>>>For membership options, visit
   
>>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Ftom.kingston%2540charter.net=02%7C01%7C%7C3e248bd075774085445c08d5c918930e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%

RE: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can call 
me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
folder.


On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
> at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of David via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: David 
> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>
> Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
> Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
> are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
> will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
> and do your renaming if you so desire.
>
>
> On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
>> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
>> command at the Run dialog:
>>
>> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>>
>> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
>> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which 
>> is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters 
>> .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>>
>> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>> > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>>   where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>>   >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>>   >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>>   >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>>   >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>>   >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>>   >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>>   >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>>   >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>>   >and reinstall WE.
>>   >Tom
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>   >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>>   >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>>   >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>>   >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>>   >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>   >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>>   >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>>   >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>>   >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>>   >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>>   >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>>   >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>>   >>>Hth,
>>   >>>Tom
>>   >>>
>>   >>>
>>   >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>>   >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
>>   >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
>>   >>>>you press enter twice.
>>   >>>>___
>>   >>>>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of
>>   >>>>the author and do not necessarily represent thos

RE: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
I'm on a network don't think narrator is working.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Cc: Larry Higgins 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
folder.


On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
> at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of David via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: David 
> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>
> Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
> Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
> are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
> will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
> and do your renaming if you so desire.
>
>
> On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
>> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
>> command at the Run dialog:
>>
>> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>>
>> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
>> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which 
>> is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters 
>> .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>>
>> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>> > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>>   where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>>   >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>>   >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>>   >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>>   >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>>   >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>>   >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>>   >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>>   >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>>   >and reinstall WE.
>>   >Tom
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>   >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>>   >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>>   >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>>   >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>>   >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>   >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>>   >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>>   >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>>   >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>>   >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>>   >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>>   >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>>   >>>Hth,
>>   >>>Tom
>>   >>>
>>   >>>
>>   >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>>   >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
>>   >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
>>   >>>>you press enter twice.
>>   >>>>___
>>   >>>>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of
>>   >>>>the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
>>   >>>>For membership options, visit
>>   

Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename 
the folder.



On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
and do your renaming if you so desire.


On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Richard,

The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
command at the Run dialog:

%appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users

The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which is 
the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters .Bak to 
the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for the Mac

On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
 wrote:

  where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
  >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
  >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
  >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
  >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
  >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
  >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
  >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
  >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
  >and reinstall WE.
  >Tom
  >
  >
  >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
  >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
  >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
  >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
  >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
  >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
  >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
  >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
  >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
  >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
  >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
  >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
  >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
  >>>Hth,
  >>>Tom
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
  >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
  >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
  >>>>you press enter twice.
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RE: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-04 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call me 
at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel - 
Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole folder, 
and do your renaming if you so desire.


On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
> command at the Run dialog:
>
> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>
> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which 
> is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters 
> .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>
> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>  talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>  where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>  >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>  >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>  >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>  >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>  >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>  >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>  >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>  >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>  >and reinstall WE.
>  >Tom
>  >
>  >
>  >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>  >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>  >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>  >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>  >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>  >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>  >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>  >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>  >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>  >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>  >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>  >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>  >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>  >>>Hth,
>  >>>Tom
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>  >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
>  >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
>  >>>>you press enter twice.
>  >>>>___
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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-03 Thread David via Talk
Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel - 
Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now 
are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, 
you will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the 
whole folder, and do your renaming if you so desire.


On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
> command at the Run dialog:
>
> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>
> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which 
> is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters 
> .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>
> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>  talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>  where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>  >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>  >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>  >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>  >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>  >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>  >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>  >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>  >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>  >and reinstall WE.
>  >Tom
>  >
>  >
>  >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>  >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>  >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>  >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>  >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>  >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>  >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>  >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>  >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>  >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>  >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>  >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>  >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>  >>>Hth,
>  >>>Tom
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>  When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
>  tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
>  you press enter twice.
>  ___
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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-03 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Richard,

The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
command at the Run dialog:

%appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users

The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, which is 
the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the characters .Bak to 
the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom suggests.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for the Mac

On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
 wrote:

where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it. 
>It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control 
>panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do 
>it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs 
>open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to 
>default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder. 
>That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall 
>and reinstall WE.
>Tom
>
>
>On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at 
>>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me 
>>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you 
>>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling 
>>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured 
>>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel 
>>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only 
>>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot 
>>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks 
>>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>>>Hth,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you 
tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless 
you press enter twice.
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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-03 Thread richard kurlander via Talk

where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it. 
It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control 
panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do 
it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs 
open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to 
default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder. 
That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall 
and reinstall WE.

Tom


On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at 
work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me 
to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you 
think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling 
that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured 
out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel 
and re-entering it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only 
puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot 
often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks 
and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you 
tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless 
you press enter twice.

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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi,

My guess is that, somehow, the set file for the control panel is not loading 
properly.
It can be re-installed by opening the File menu within the Window-Eyes control 
panel, and choosing Factory Settings.
In the list view, press w in order to quickly navigate to Window-Eyes user 
interface.
Then, tab over to the Install button and activate it.
Follow the prompts and then close the dialog when done.

Hth,

Rod

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On 2018-06-02, 10:53 AM, "Talk on behalf of Tom Kingston via Talk" 
 wrote:

Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it. It's 
very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control panel or 
reload WE. I can't even remember which.
Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do it if 
you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs open? If 
so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to default.back 
and reload WE. It will create a new default folder. That's more or less 
like a soft reset without having to uninstall and reinstall WE.
Tom


On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
> tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at work 
> using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me to hear 
> the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you think 
> something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling that no 
> luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>> I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured out 
>> why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel and 
>> re-entering it solved the problem.
>> If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only puts 
>> the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot often 
>> solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks and other 
>> imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
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>> On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>>> When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you tab 
>>> you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless you 
>>> press enter twice.
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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-02 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it. It's 
very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control panel or 
reload WE. I can't even remember which.
Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do it if 
you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs open? If 
so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to default.back 
and reload WE. It will create a new default folder. That's more or less 
like a soft reset without having to uninstall and reinstall WE.

Tom


On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at work 
using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me to hear 
the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you think 
something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling that no 
luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured out 
why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel and 
re-entering it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only puts 
the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot often 
solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks and other 
imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you tab 
you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless you 
press enter twice.

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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-02 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at work 
using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me to hear 
the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you think 
something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling that no 
luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured out 
why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel and 
re-entering it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only puts 
the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot often 
solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks and other 
imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you 
tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless 
you press enter twice.

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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-01 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured out why 
it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel and re-entering 
it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only puts the 
system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot often solves 
quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks and other 
imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


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When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you tab you only 
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toggle and not whole phrase

2018-06-01 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you tab you only 
hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless you press enter twice.
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