Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-24 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
Thanks Mark

It turns out someone had unchecked that box, since they thought it would
"help".

If anyone else finds themselves in this position, since W-E will crash
as soon as you try to get into about:config, you'll need to close W-E,
get yourself into "about:config" and get some eyes to make sure you've
found "config warning", make it true again, get out of there, and restart W-E.

Having done that, the turn autoload and browse mode off procedure works
as you said it would.

Thanks again

-- 
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:31:32 +
Marc Solomon <msolo...@aisquared.com> wrote:

> Reg, by default there is a checkbox on the about:config page just above the 
> I'll be careful button labeled Show this warning next time. Sounds like you 
> unchecked this checkbox at some point.
> Marc 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: web vissum work around
> 
> Mark and all
> 
> My system seems mysteriously to have bypassed the "I'll be careful"
> button, so the only way I can access about:config is to turn autoload
> and browse mode off before I type "about:config" whereupon, on pressing
> enter, I go straight into it, with no button required.
> Does anyone know why?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> <regw...@btinternet.com>
> 
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:57:13 +
> Marc Solomon <msolo...@aisquared.com> wrote:
> 
> > Well, I stand corrected. Chris from our support team helped clarify that 
> > you can use the about:config screen in Firefox with Window-Eyes if you do 
> > two things before activating the I'll be careful I promise button:
> > 1. Disable auto loading of Browse Mode (Insert-A is the default hotkey for 
> > toggling this feature on and off) Note: don't forget to turn auto load back 
> > on when you are done 
> > 2. Manually turn off Browse Mode (Control-Shift-A) 
> > I just tested this out and it worked great under Windows 10 and Firefox 
> > 43.0.1. We do have this issue logged in our bug tracking system but this 
> > work around can be used until it is fixed.
> > Thanks,
> > Marc
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk 
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:47 AM
> > To: Reg Webb <regw...@btinternet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: web vissum work around
> > 
> > Well, that is what I get for making a suggestion without testing it out 
> > first. I am also experiencing the Firefox hang when opening the 
> > about:config page regardless if Browse Mode is on or off. This happens in 
> > the latest Firefox under both Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. I have notified 
> > our development team, so if the issue is on our end, which seems likely at 
> > this point, we can investigate further.  
> > Thanks,
> > Marc
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk 
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:04 AM
> > To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > Subject: Re: web vissum work around
> > 
> > Nor on this one Mark.
> > 
> > I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
> > managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
> > working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
> > W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
> > support, the rest is silence!
> > Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
> > Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
> > so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > <regw...@btinternet.com>
> > 
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
> > Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mark,
> > > 
> > > That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> > > Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with

Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
Nor on this one Mark.

I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
support, the rest is silence!
Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
-- 
Reg


On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
Joe Paton via Talk  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> Marc Solomon via Talk  wrote:
> 
> I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
> about:config page in Firefox.
> Regards, 
> Marc
> 
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> 
> On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> > with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> > make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> >
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > 
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> > McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:
> >
> >> i found this on another list.
> >> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> >> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
> >> item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going 
> >> to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and 
> >> the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one 
> >> for signing into captia based sites.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen 
> >> with no spaces:
> >> 
> >> about:config
> >> 
> >> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> >> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> >> 
> >> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> >> looking for the below item:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required
> >> 
> >> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> >> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> >> 
> >> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> >> Webvisum should work.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
> >> allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
> >> some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
> >> every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
> >> Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow 
> >> or disallow the installation--regardless of whether the   
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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
So NVDA works here.  Who said there's no free lunch?

-- 
Reg


On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:21:26 GMT
Joe Paton  wrote:

> Hi Reg,
> 
> I can add that firefox stops responding running we 9.0.
> Nvda works ok though, So I guess this points to a new issue?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:37:41 +
> Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > i found this on another list.
> > I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> > temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> > that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 
> > 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> > one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> > into captia based sites.
> > 
> > 
> > There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> > 
> > 
> > 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> > no spaces:
> > 
> > about:config
> > 
> > 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> > Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> > 
> > 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> > looking for the below item:
> > 
> > xpinstall.signatures.required
> > 
> > 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> > choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> > 
> > 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> > 
> > xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> > 
> > 
> > Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> > Webvisum should work.
> > 
> > 
> > Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
> > allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
> > some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
> > every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
> > Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or 
> > disallow the installation--regardless of whether the
> > ___
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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread via Talk 
Rumola sounds interesting, how would I use it in internet explorer?  It
says drag something to your favorites bar, but I can't figure out what
they are talking about.

Chris Grabowski via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Turn off browse mode before going into the about:config.
> Chris
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:38 PM
> To: macks75...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: web vissum work around
> 
> Hi all
> I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> <regw...@btinternet.com>
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > i found this on another list.
> > I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> > temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> > that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 
> > 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> > one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> > into captia based sites.
> > 
> > 
> > There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> > 
> > 
> > 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> > no spaces:
> > 
> > about:config
> > 
> > 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> > Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> > 
> > 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> > looking for the below item:
> > 
> > xpinstall.signatures.required
> > 
> > 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> > choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> > 
> > 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> > 
> > xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> > 
> > 
> > Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> > Webvisum should work.
> > 
> > 
> > Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
> > allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
> > some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
> > every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
> > Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or 
> > disallow the installation--regardless of whether the
> > ___
> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the 
> > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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RE: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
Turn off browse mode before going into the about:config.
Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:38 PM
To: macks75...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: web vissum work around

Hi all
I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?

-- 
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> i found this on another list.
> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 2 
> versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> into captia based sites.
> 
> 
> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> 
> 
> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> no spaces:
> 
> about:config
> 
> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> 
> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> looking for the below item:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required
> 
> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> 
> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> 
> 
> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> Webvisum should work.
> 
> 
> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not allow 
> add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of some, your 
> risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, every time I 
> install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run Firefox for the 
> first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or disallow the 
> installation--regardless of whether the  
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RE: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk 
Well, that is what I get for making a suggestion without testing it out first. 
I am also experiencing the Firefox hang when opening the about:config page 
regardless if Browse Mode is on or off. This happens in the latest Firefox 
under both Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. I have notified our development team, so 
if the issue is on our end, which seems likely at this point, we can 
investigate further.  
Thanks,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:04 AM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: web vissum work around

Nor on this one Mark.

I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
support, the rest is silence!
Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
-- 
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
> about:config page in Firefox.
> Regards, 
> Marc
> 
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
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> 
> 
> On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> > with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> > make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> >
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > <regw...@btinternet.com>
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> > McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i found this on another list.
> >> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> >> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
> >> item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going 
> >> to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and 
> >> the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one 
> >> for signing into captia based sites.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen 
> >> with no spaces:
> >> 
> >> about:config
> >> 
> >> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> >> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> >> 
> >> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> >> looking for the below item:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required
> >> 
> >> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> >> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> >> 
> >> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> >> Webvisum should work.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
> >> allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
> >> some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
> >> every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
> >> Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow 
> >> or disallow the installation--regardless of whether the   
> >> ___
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RE: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk 
Well, I stand corrected. Chris from our support team helped clarify that you 
can use the about:config screen in Firefox with Window-Eyes if you do two 
things before activating the I'll be careful I promise button:
1. Disable auto loading of Browse Mode (Insert-A is the default hotkey for 
toggling this feature on and off) Note: don't forget to turn auto load back on 
when you are done 
2. Manually turn off Browse Mode (Control-Shift-A) 
I just tested this out and it worked great under Windows 10 and Firefox 43.0.1. 
We do have this issue logged in our bug tracking system but this work around 
can be used until it is fixed.
Thanks,
Marc
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:47 AM
To: Reg Webb <regw...@btinternet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: web vissum work around

Well, that is what I get for making a suggestion without testing it out first. 
I am also experiencing the Firefox hang when opening the about:config page 
regardless if Browse Mode is on or off. This happens in the latest Firefox 
under both Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. I have notified our development team, so 
if the issue is on our end, which seems likely at this point, we can 
investigate further.  
Thanks,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:04 AM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: web vissum work around

Nor on this one Mark.

I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
support, the rest is silence!
Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
-- 
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
> about:config page in Firefox.
> Regards, 
> Marc
> 
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> 
> 
> On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> > with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> > make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> >
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > <regw...@btinternet.com>
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> > McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i found this on another list.
> >> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> >> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
> >> item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going 
> >> to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and 
> >> the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one 
> >> for signing into captia based sites.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen 
> >> with no spaces:
> >> 
> >> about:config
> >> 
> >> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> >> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> >> 
> >> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> >> looking for the below item:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required
> >> 
> >> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> >> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> >> 
> >> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> >> 
> >> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Then press control + W to close the wi

RE: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk 
Reg, by default there is a checkbox on the about:config page just above the 
I'll be careful button labeled Show this warning next time. Sounds like you 
unchecked this checkbox at some point.
Marc 
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:08 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: web vissum work around

Mark and all

My system seems mysteriously to have bypassed the "I'll be careful"
button, so the only way I can access about:config is to turn autoload
and browse mode off before I type "about:config" whereupon, on pressing
enter, I go straight into it, with no button required.
Does anyone know why?

-- 
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:57:13 +
Marc Solomon <msolo...@aisquared.com> wrote:

> Well, I stand corrected. Chris from our support team helped clarify that you 
> can use the about:config screen in Firefox with Window-Eyes if you do two 
> things before activating the I'll be careful I promise button:
> 1. Disable auto loading of Browse Mode (Insert-A is the default hotkey for 
> toggling this feature on and off) Note: don't forget to turn auto load back 
> on when you are done 
> 2. Manually turn off Browse Mode (Control-Shift-A) 
> I just tested this out and it worked great under Windows 10 and Firefox 
> 43.0.1. We do have this issue logged in our bug tracking system but this work 
> around can be used until it is fixed.
> Thanks,
> Marc
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: Reg Webb <regw...@btinternet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
> Subject: RE: web vissum work around
> 
> Well, that is what I get for making a suggestion without testing it out 
> first. I am also experiencing the Firefox hang when opening the about:config 
> page regardless if Browse Mode is on or off. This happens in the latest 
> Firefox under both Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. I have notified our 
> development team, so if the issue is on our end, which seems likely at this 
> point, we can investigate further.  
> Thanks,
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:04 AM
> To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: web vissum work around
> 
> Nor on this one Mark.
> 
> I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
> managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
> working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
> W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
> support, the rest is silence!
> Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
> Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
> so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
> -- 
> Reg
> <regw...@btinternet.com>
> 
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
> Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> > Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
> > about:config page in Firefox.
> > Regards, 
> > Marc
> > 
> > Sent with AquaMail for Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > 
> > 
> > On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all
> > > I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> > > with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> > > make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Reg
> > > <regw...@btinternet.com>
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> > > McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> i found this on another list.
> > >> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only 
> > >> a temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
> > >> item that will disable

Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
Mark and all

My system seems mysteriously to have bypassed the "I'll be careful"
button, so the only way I can access about:config is to turn autoload
and browse mode off before I type "about:config" whereupon, on pressing
enter, I go straight into it, with no button required.
Does anyone know why?

-- 
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:57:13 +
Marc Solomon <msolo...@aisquared.com> wrote:

> Well, I stand corrected. Chris from our support team helped clarify that you 
> can use the about:config screen in Firefox with Window-Eyes if you do two 
> things before activating the I'll be careful I promise button:
> 1. Disable auto loading of Browse Mode (Insert-A is the default hotkey for 
> toggling this feature on and off) Note: don't forget to turn auto load back 
> on when you are done 
> 2. Manually turn off Browse Mode (Control-Shift-A) 
> I just tested this out and it worked great under Windows 10 and Firefox 
> 43.0.1. We do have this issue logged in our bug tracking system but this work 
> around can be used until it is fixed.
> Thanks,
> Marc
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: Reg Webb <regw...@btinternet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
> Subject: RE: web vissum work around
> 
> Well, that is what I get for making a suggestion without testing it out 
> first. I am also experiencing the Firefox hang when opening the about:config 
> page regardless if Browse Mode is on or off. This happens in the latest 
> Firefox under both Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. I have notified our 
> development team, so if the issue is on our end, which seems likely at this 
> point, we can investigate further.  
> Thanks,
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:04 AM
> To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: web vissum work around
> 
> Nor on this one Mark.
> 
> I just tried it and, after W-E stopped talking, my sighted wife and I
> managed to shut down Firefox from Task Manager, and W-E came up, but not
> working properly - (win+d would not get me the desktop).  After closing
> W-e and restarting it, I'm now back to normal but, without sighted
> support, the rest is silence!
> Windows7-64 W-E9.3.1 latest Firefox.
> Incidentally, at my first attempt, W-E said "browse mode not available",
> so I couldn't turn it off if I tried.
> -- 
> Reg
> <regw...@btinternet.com>
> 
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:24:17 GMT
> Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > That doesn't work on this installation sadly.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
> > Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
> > about:config page in Firefox.
> > Regards, 
> > Marc
> > 
> > Sent with AquaMail for Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > 
> > 
> > On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all
> > > I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> > > with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> > > make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Reg
> > > <regw...@btinternet.com>
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> > > McLeod Stinnett via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> i found this on another list.
> > >> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only 
> > >> a temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
> > >> item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am 
> > >> going to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the 
> > >> hack and the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that 
> > >> older one for signing into captia based sites.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> > >> 
> >

more on web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread McLeod Stinnett via Talk 
here is a link to the article about unsigned add/ons 
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/04/here-are-you-options-for-running-unsigned-add-ons-in-firefox/ 
if worse comes to worse, you can install rumola http://www.rumola.com 
you get 99 capcha solves for a dollar. works in all browsers, however in 
IE there is no download, just a bookmark that you have to drag to 
favorites.  not quite sure how to do this in w/e

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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Joe Paton via Talk 
Hi Reg,

I can add that firefox stops responding running we 9.0.
Nvda works ok though, So I guess this points to a new issue?

Kind regards,

Joe

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:37:41 +
Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:

Hi all
I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?

-- 
Reg


On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:

> i found this on another list.
> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 2 
> versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> into captia based sites.
> 
> 
> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> 
> 
> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> no spaces:
> 
> about:config
> 
> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> 
> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> looking for the below item:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required
> 
> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> 
> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> 
> 
> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> Webvisum should work.
> 
> 
> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not allow 
> add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of some, your 
> risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, every time I 
> install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run Firefox for the 
> first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or disallow the 
> installation--regardless of whether the  
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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Joe Paton via Talk 
Hi Mark,

That doesn't work on this installation sadly.

Joe

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
Marc Solomon via Talk  wrote:

I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
about:config page in Firefox.
Regards, 
Marc

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi all
> I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
>
> -- 
> Reg
> 
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:
>
>> i found this on another list.
>> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
>> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
>> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 
>> 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
>> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
>> into captia based sites.
>> 
>> 
>> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
>> no spaces:
>> 
>> about:config
>> 
>> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
>> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
>> 
>> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
>> looking for the below item:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required
>> 
>> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
>> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
>> 
>> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
>> 
>> 
>> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
>> Webvisum should work.
>> 
>> 
>> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
>> allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
>> some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
>> every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
>> Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or 
>> disallow the installation--regardless of whether the 
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RE: web vissum work around

2015-12-22 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk 
Hi McLeod,

Thanks for the info.  I wonder if you could check below since the end of
your message was cut off and perhaps you wanted to say more than we got.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of McLeod Stinnett via Talk
Sent: December 22, 2015 11:45 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: web vissum work around

i found this on another list.
I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only 
a temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am 
going to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the 
hack and the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that 
older one for signing into captia based sites.


There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.


1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen 
with no spaces:

about:config

2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'

3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You 
are looking for the below item:

xpinstall.signatures.required

4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click 
and choose toggel or press T (same thing.)

5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:

xpinstall.signatures.required;false


Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox 
again, Webvisum should work.


Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 
4, every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I 
run Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to 
allow or disallow the installation--regardless of whether the   
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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-22 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk 
I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
about:config page in Firefox.
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On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi all
> I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
>
> -- 
> Reg
> 
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:
>
>> i found this on another list.
>> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
>> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
>> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 
>> 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
>> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
>> into captia based sites.
>> 
>> 
>> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
>> no spaces:
>> 
>> about:config
>> 
>> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
>> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
>> 
>> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
>> looking for the below item:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required
>> 
>> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
>> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
>> 
>> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
>> 
>> 
>> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
>> Webvisum should work.
>> 
>> 
>> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
>> allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
>> some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
>> every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
>> Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or 
>> disallow the installation--regardless of whether the 
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web vissum work around

2015-12-22 Thread McLeod Stinnett via Talk 

i found this on another list.
I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only 
a temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration 
item that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am 
going to run 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the 
hack and the newest one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that 
older one for signing into captia based sites.



There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.


1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen 
with no spaces:


about:config

2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'


3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You 
are looking for the below item:


xpinstall.signatures.required

4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click 
and choose toggel or press T (same thing.)


5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:

xpinstall.signatures.required;false


Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox 
again, Webvisum should work.



Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 
4, every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I 
run Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to 
allow or disallow the installation--regardless of whether the 	

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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-22 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
Hi all
I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?

-- 
Reg


On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:

> i found this on another list.
> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 2 
> versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> into captia based sites.
> 
> 
> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> 
> 
> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> no spaces:
> 
> about:config
> 
> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> 
> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> looking for the below item:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required
> 
> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> 
> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> 
> 
> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> Webvisum should work.
> 
> 
> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not allow 
> add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of some, your 
> risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, every time I 
> install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run Firefox for the 
> first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or disallow the 
> installation--regardless of whether the  
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