Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I look forward to Richard Fairhurst suing Richard Fairhurst for violating the license on Richard Fairhurst's data. I know that guy. He might be crazy enough to do it. Just to prove a point. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
Heiko Jacobs wrote: > A real ODBL-OSM can only be build with "home copies" of the > data of the contributors who said yes. They cannot copy their > own edits from CC-OSM, because this also will be a > condensation of CC-OSM ... So if they violate the licence, they'll be sued by the copyright holder, right? I look forward to Richard Fairhurst suing Richard Fairhurst for violating the license on Richard Fairhurst's data. *facepalm* cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Re-License-Cut-over-and-critical-mass-tp5333864p5333989.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
Hi, Heiko Jacobs wrote: A real ODBL-OSM can only be build with "home copies" of the data of the contributors who said yes. They cannot copy their own edits from CC-OSM, because this also will be a condensation of CC-OSM ... I don't think so. Copyright is not based on the physical path that data has traveled. For example, there's dual-licensed software where you can either use it under GPL or pay for a commercial license. You don't have to re-download the software when you switch from GPL to commercial - you just pay the price and get a piece of paper that says you can now use the software under another license. Often there won't even be a separate download link. It is perfectly sufficient if someone agrees to ODbL, we can then take his data from our existing database. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
Richard Weait schrieb: Data that is now CC-By-SA will always be CC-By-SA. Currently published planets, > for example are CC-By-SA and will stay that way. No data loss. > The data is still there. Still CC-By-SA. Yes indeed. Including ... We'll each choose to allow our data to be promoted to OSM with the license upgrade, or we will not. ... the new planet which is called to be under ODBL. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode But it isn'nt, because the contributors who said "yes" for change don't give their "home copy" of their data a second time like in "7.b ... Licensor reserves the right to release THE WORK under different license terms" "the work" = "their original work" and not a copy of it. But the new "so called ODBL-OSM" is only an "vote-yes"-extract of the old CC-OSM so ... "1.b 'Derivative Work' means a work based upon the Work ... such as a ... condensation ..." ... is suitable, so ... "4.b You may distribute ... a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Japan)." ... also a "so called ODBL-OSM" ist still under CC and only under CC. A real ODBL-OSM can only be build with "home copies" of the data of the contributors who said yes. They cannot copy their own edits from CC-OSM, because this also will be a condensation of CC-OSM ... Mueck ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Map Party 消息!
Hi! 各位 mapper, 2010 8月7日中午起在台南,有一場小型的 Map Party。 相關的資訊在這個 wiki 頁面: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Taiwan/2010,_August_7,_Tainan希望您能參與這項活動。 Cheers, 劉俊宏 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Ideas for a workshop
Hi, in a couple of weeks Creative Commons here is organising what they call Culture 2.0 Camp and some of the organisers are very interested in the digitalisation and archiving of the cultural heritage of the village where the camp is hosted. (An almost completely unmapped place by the way). They already had the workshops planned but now got the idea to employ OSM too. If you have any ideas on fun things that can be done with OSM during a digitalisation workshop, beside basic mapping party, please let me know! I don't know all the details but there should be about 20 - 25 people attending the digitalisation paert. There's some budget for renting bikes and buying some quality GPS receivers. Device model suggestions also appreciated (maybe ones that enable audio mapping, or maybe just plain receivers), though the wiki already has good documentation. There's a castle in the village, it's in Poland and there's a German-speaking minority in the village. Many thanks, ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk