Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

[Simon Poole]

If you have your imagery in the typical GeoTIFF format at least for
small areas the Import Image plugin will allow you to use it directly.

If you have a larger area it may make sense to tile the data and set-up
your own server (however the tiling is a rather slow process).

Simon

Am 18.06.2012 05:51, schrieb Alex Rollin:
> I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing.
>
> Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to?
>
> I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images.
>
> What would I do with them to load them into JOSM?  It appears there is
> no "open background image and add to map" dialog.
>
> Do I need to "create wms tiles"?
>
> Alex
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Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout

[Kate Chapman]

Alex,

So that is just where the imagery ends. It is pretty common to have
stripes like that.

-Kate

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Alex Rollin  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Alex Rollin  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by
>>> zooming to the area and clicking the "View" button again. Then copy
>>> and paste the resulting link.
>>>
>>> I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom
>>> levels for that area.
>>>
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.741&lon=106.9485&zoom=14&layers=M
>>
>>
>
> Pelabuhan Ratu isnt in that line, its another crossover, though, perhaps
> between batches of imagery?
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.98435&lon=106.55299&zoom=15&layers=M
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout

[Alex Rollin]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Alex Rollin  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Alex,
>>
>> Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by
>> zooming to the area and clicking the "View" button again. Then copy
>> and paste the resulting link.
>>
>> I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom
>> levels for that area.
>>
>>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.741&lon=106.9485&zoom=14&layers=M
>
>
>
Pelabuhan Ratu isnt in that line, its another crossover, though, perhaps
between batches of imagery?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.98435&lon=106.55299&zoom=15&layers=M
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Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout

[Alex Rollin]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by
> zooming to the area and clicking the "View" button again. Then copy
> and paste the resulting link.
>
> I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom
> levels for that area.
>
>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-6.741&lon=106.9485&zoom=14&layers=M
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Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout

[Kate Chapman]

Alex,

Could you send a link to the area in OpenStreetMap? You can do that by
zooming to the area and clicking the "View" button again. Then copy
and paste the resulting link.

I suspect the answer is there isn't imagery available at certain zoom
levels for that area.

Thanks,

-Kate

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alex Rollin  wrote:
> There is a line of missing imagery that stretches from Bekasi to Gunung
> Pangranga thourgh Sukabumi to Pelabuhan Ratu that is "not available".
>
> Does anyone have any ideas why this is?
>
> A

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Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

[Alex Rollin]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Paul Johnson  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Alex Rollin wrote:
>
>> I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing.
>>
>> Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to?
>>
>> I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images.
>>
>> What would I do with them to load them into JOSM?  It appears there is no
>> "open background image and add to map" dialog.
>>
>>
> Danger, Will Robinson! Would their license be compatible with OSM, since
> you're going to be deriving data from their imagery?
>
> I promise i will be sensitive to licensing.  Still new to all this, so,
this is a practical technical question.  Once I find more about buying
stuff, hints at that process welcome too, then I will share what I learn
about the licenses etc, too.

A
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Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Alex Rollin  wrote:

> I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing.
>
> Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to?
>
> I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images.
>
> What would I do with them to load them into JOSM?  It appears there is no
> "open background image and add to map" dialog.
>
>
Danger, Will Robinson! Would their license be compatible with OSM, since
you're going to be deriving data from their imagery?
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[OSM-talk] Indonesia Imagery Blackout

[Alex Rollin]

There is a line of missing imagery that stretches from Bekasi to Gunung
Pangranga thourgh Sukabumi to Pelabuhan Ratu that is "not available".

Does anyone have any ideas why this is?

A
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Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

[Kate Chapman]

Hi Alex,

I've bought imagery previously for Padang from a DigitalGlobe
reseller. It was delivered as a GeoTiff. I then used gdal2tiles.py to
tile it to be used in JOSM.

You may want to recheck the areas you are interested, Bing appears to
have updated quite a bit of imagery in Indonesia recently.

Best,

-Kate

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Alex Rollin  wrote:
> I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing.
>
> Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to?
>
> I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images.
>
> What would I do with them to load them into JOSM?  It appears there is no
> "open background image and add to map" dialog.
>
> Do I need to "create wms tiles"?
>
> Alex
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[OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

[Alex Rollin]

I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing.

Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to?

I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images.

What would I do with them to load them into JOSM?  It appears there is no
"open background image and add to map" dialog.

Do I need to "create wms tiles"?

Alex
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Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

[Jaakko Helleranta.com]

No. Reverting does _not_ mean uploading old version.
It means undoing your changeset completely or partially.

See info about JOSM plugin Reverter (IIRC). .. And probably makes sense to look 
into it a bit before actually reverting -- as you may mess up more when 
reverting.

As some commenter said, it's easier to revert sooner than later.

Good luck and ask for help if in doubt,
-Jaakko
http://osm.org/user/jaakkoh

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On dom, 2012-06-17 at 16:30 +0200, colliar wrote:
> It is your decision but you will probably gain more friends by reverting
> and making more careful mechanical edits including reporting about it in
> advance. 

"reverting" means to upload the old version of those nodes/relations,
right?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am 17.06.2012 um 16:30 schrieb colliar :

> Overall instead of mechanical edits you can also make semi-automatic
> edits and ask the community to help if it is too much work.


+1
Without discussion you shouldn't delete any tag that is in wider use. 

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

[bruno]

On dom, 2012-06-17 at 16:30 +0200, colliar wrote:
> It is your decision but you will probably gain more friends by reverting
> and making more careful mechanical edits including reporting about it in
> advance. 

"reverting" means to upload the old version of those nodes/relations,
right?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

[colliar]

On 17/06/12 12:38, bruno wrote:
> Hi!
>   without too much thinking and without discussing it (and without
> reading the wiki) I made a worldwide mechanical edit
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11913785
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/White_Rabbit
> 
> I modified 1120 elements which had the amenity=airport tag:
> * those which already had aeroway=* were just stripped of
> amenity=airport and the aeroway=* was left untouched;
> * those elements with just amenity=airport and no aeroway=* were
> stripped of of amenity=airport and added aeroway=aerodrome.
> 
> I have the old version of the nodes [1].
> I'm sorry for the mess :-|
> What do we do?
> 
> /bruno
> 
> [1] http://tracciabi.li/~bruno/av/amenity-airport.osm

Thanks for telling.

The problem with reverting is that it gets more difficult while time
passes. This means right now it might be easy to revert as there were
not many changes after your edit.

I had a quick look at your change set and found some ways in South Korea
which have "School" in their names and seem to be school (e.g. way
id:129601385) . At least for these cases your edit did not fix anything !

There was/is lots of discussion on this mailing list regarding
mechanical edits. Have a look at:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-May
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-June

Overall instead of mechanical edits you can also make semi-automatic
edits and ask the community to help if it is too much work.

Considering your 1120 elements it should not be hard to find some people
to help and finding/downloading these objects should be easy thanks to
the overpass-api.

It is your decision but you will probably gain more friends by reverting
and making more careful mechanical edits including reporting about it in
advance.

Cheers
colliar



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[OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

[bruno]

Hi!
  without too much thinking and without discussing it (and without
reading the wiki) I made a worldwide mechanical edit

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11913785
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/White_Rabbit

I modified 1120 elements which had the amenity=airport tag:
* those which already had aeroway=* were just stripped of
amenity=airport and the aeroway=* was left untouched;
* those elements with just amenity=airport and no aeroway=* were
stripped of of amenity=airport and added aeroway=aerodrome.

I have the old version of the nodes [1].
I'm sorry for the mess :-|
What do we do?

/bruno

[1] http://tracciabi.li/~bruno/av/amenity-airport.osm
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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

[Janko Mihelić]

2012/6/14 Peter Wendorff 

>  So yes, it's useful to know about the park-and-ride stuff, but
> 1) I agree with you, that probably parking=yes is not the best way to tag
> that, and
> 2) (the more important question for me as a data consumer in this case),
> if that tag combination is correctly interpreted as a P+R facility.
>

The best way to tag this is pretty obvious if you read the public_transport
wiki page. Stop
areashould
be a relation with all the points that form it, like platform,
bench, shelter.. And we could put a parking lot in if it is a park and ride.

Janjko
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