Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe not construction, but proposed. Highway=proposed means that a road is
planned there.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-29 Thread Robert Kaiser

Clifford Snow schrieb:

How do you tag roads that are out of service. We have a section of Widbey
Island that was wiped out by a landslide. It will be out of service for
some time.


If you re-tag it some other way, you should also tag it with a note 
explaining that it's wiped out by a landslide. If you think of removing 
the section of that way completely, it might even be worth to instead 
just remove the highway tag and add that note tag.
There are cases where people see the map, think "I thought there was a 
road?" and then end up re-mapping it using some satellite or aerial 
imagery where it's (still) visible. Doing the note makes it less likely 
they do something like that.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-29 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Ah, +1 for just removing the highway tag & adding a note on weather damage. 
There's been similar discussion regarding demolished/collapsed buildings that 
still show in imagery.
I've used was:building=collapsed/demolished IIRC on some of such cases -- after 
having had the experience of some people adding from imagery once removed 
buildings.

I'd also add that I think it's a very good idea to make sure that you make sure 
that _some_ detour is mapped if you completely take out a piece of major road 
to avoid breaking routing.

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-Original Message-
From: Robert Kaiser 
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:24 
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

Clifford Snow schrieb:
> How do you tag roads that are out of service. We have a section of Widbey
> Island that was wiped out by a landslide. It will be out of service for
> some time.

If you re-tag it some other way, you should also tag it with a note 
explaining that it's wiped out by a landslide. If you think of removing 
the section of that way completely, it might even be worth to instead 
just remove the highway tag and add that note tag.
There are cases where people see the map, think "I thought there was a 
road?" and then end up re-mapping it using some satellite or aerial 
imagery where it's (still) visible. Doing the note makes it less likely 
they do something like that.

Robert Kaiser



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Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Right, but if the road has lanes open for travel, then it's highway=*,
construction=minor, *not* highway=construction.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:

> Paul Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't access=no implied with any
>> construction=* value other than "minor?"  At least this is the feel I got
>> from live use as the way mkgmap interprets things.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Russ Nelson  wrote:
>>
>>> Clifford Snow writes:
>>>  > How do you tag roads that are out of service. We have a section of
>>> Widbey
>>>  > Island that was wiped out by a landslide. It will be out of service
>>> for
>>>  > some time.
>>>
>>> I agree with the "construction" tagging, but if the road still exists
>>> but is impassable, and there isn't any current construction going on,
>>> I mark it with access=no. If there are gates, I mark barrier=gate (or
>>> whatever is appropriate).
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> You often have existing lanes open next to heavy construction. Not all
> multi-lane roads have each lane mapped as a separate way.
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